Alex Comes Clean

Your thread for Alex's steroid presser. Comment away. But keep it, ahem, clean. 

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  • If I had the power to ask A-Rod questions, I would use the ones that are directing the conversation at ESPN’s First Take or Cold Pizza or whatever it is.
    First one up:
    What NBA hairstyle has had the biggest impact on the league?

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 1:37 pm
  • Why haven’t dreadlocks caught on in the NBA?

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 1:37 pm
  • What should Jay, Skip and Michael do with their hair?

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 1:38 pm
  • apparently he still isn’t taking the “let’s start on time” performance enhancer. already 15 minutes late and no sign of our fallen hero. second thoughts???

    YF February 17, 2009, 1:44 pm
  • Any chance he’s going to be seen on the back of a bus with Dustin Hoffman?

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 1:47 pm
  • here we go. “put your cellphones on vibrate.” says pr man jason zillo. also, no follow up questions. Alex on a dais with girardi, in short sleeves and cashman. alex in a navy shirt, sleeves rolled up. in attendance: hank steinbrenner. also, don hooten, of the taylor hooten foundation. so looks like someone’s getting a check out of this. and now to alex.

    YF February 17, 2009, 1:53 pm
  • SF February 17, 2009, 1:53 pm
  • derek REALLLY looking not happy to be there.

    YF February 17, 2009, 1:54 pm
  • No follow-up questions, or no questions at all? One and done from each reporter? Can you clarify? I can’t watch.
    Actually, don’t want to watch either. What’s the point?

    SF February 17, 2009, 1:57 pm
  • derek REALLLY looking not happy to be there.
    Funny, if I had written that this thread would have already spun out of control!

    SF February 17, 2009, 2:01 pm
  • that’s right SF!! :)
    damn the network at work!!! I can hear it but can’t watch it…
    I think this is just going to blow over no problem…back to baseball!!! (not)

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:02 pm
  • George King asks the toughest question (I think):
    What’s your cousin’s name?
    A-Rod does not give it.

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:05 pm
  • Can you be sorry for not being sure if you cheated or not?

    SF February 17, 2009, 2:07 pm
  • Why would he? This isn’t a trial…

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:07 pm
  • John Harper asks “Did you think you were using steroids?”
    He says no, basically, which is not going to go over well.

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:07 pm
  • I am following via numerous liveblogs. I think I have a better grasp of the truth than if I were listening to Alex!
    Mix two parts SoSH, one part YFSF, one part Neyer, and one part NY Times. You can’t go wrong!

    SF February 17, 2009, 2:08 pm
  • “All these years I didn’t think I had done anything wrong”
    That’s not going to fly in the papers tomorrow.

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:08 pm
  • SF: if many people are taking supplements/PED’s/whatever you want to call them, you probably wouldn’t think it was cheating. There is no doubt he/baseball players overall know how prevalent this was all over baseball?

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:08 pm
  • John Harper asks “Did you think you were using steroids?”
    He says no, basically, which is not going to go over well.

    “Hey, you with that needle and the random clear liquid, come shoot it in my buttcheeks!”.
    Yep, that’s believable.

    SF February 17, 2009, 2:09 pm
  • Honestly, this press conference is not going to be viewed favorably by the media. The only thing is that he gave a name to the drug. Otherwise, he’s basically killing himself like he wants to.

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:10 pm
  • I understand that, Krueg. But what is he apologizing for, then? In other words, I don’t care about the apology. I am more interested in the truth. I don’t think Alex needs to apologize. Honestly, I don’t.

    SF February 17, 2009, 2:10 pm
  • Well, I speak too soon. A-Rod use to take Ripfuel, which is now banned.

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:11 pm
  • I’m waiting for a writer to hoist up the wooden cross he’s built and hand a hammer and nails to ARod and say “Do it. Do it. No, just do it.”

    walein February 17, 2009, 2:11 pm
  • “I’m here to take my medicine.”
    Oh Arod, isn’t that what got you in this mess to begin with?
    Also, did he just try to blame this on Rip Fuel?

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 2:11 pm
  • A Rod must have paid a good price to his cousin to drop this on him….unless it’s all true.

    walein February 17, 2009, 2:12 pm
  • “I knew we weren’t taking tic tacs…”
    This is going to be the most famous answer from the press conference. Fans are going to throw tic tacs at him this season. Basically, he’s caught in a lie and his answer sucks.

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:12 pm
  • > John Harper asks “Did you think you were using steroids?”
    Proper answer: “Depends on how one is using the word using.”

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 2:13 pm
  • I hope A Rod says that Roy Oswalt is a backwoods hick who needs to take PEDs because if you look at his declining skills…

    walein February 17, 2009, 2:13 pm
  • It doesn’t matter what he says Nick…it really doesn’t.
    SF: i hear ya. this is just a witchhunt. This whole thing. Kinda feels like 21st century McCarthy-ism honestly.

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:13 pm
  • Frick.. I just yesterday sold my stock in tic-tacs, that perennial underperformer of all the sugary hard candies. Damn you, Altoids!

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 2:14 pm
  • speaking in Spanish. We need Rolfe, Maria and Pierre!
    (I reference my own jokes)

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:14 pm
  • I’ve always thought about my friend (1st Language spanish and huge Yankee fan) telling me that ARod’s spanish is brutal to listen to.

    walein February 17, 2009, 2:14 pm
  • Sounds like YF’s post title isn’t all that accurate.

    SF February 17, 2009, 2:15 pm
  • Win a world series and all this goes away…

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:17 pm
  • blames cousin. says he didn’t know what he was taking. not sure they were really even his.
    Seriously, what’s the difference between Alex’s story and the random dude trying to explaing the enormous bag of blow in the armrest from any given episode of “Cops”?

    SF February 17, 2009, 2:17 pm
  • “I never saw any other player do it.”

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:17 pm
  • Joel Sherman asks a syllogism question.
    If you didn’t know what it did, why would you do it 36 times?

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:18 pm
  • Wow…a reporter can do simple math!!!

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:18 pm
  • Alex: Is it true that you hate America?

    walein February 17, 2009, 2:18 pm
  • In Yankee Stadium, maybe.
    He’s going to hear it from every other fan, in every ballpark, every time he comes to bat, for the rest of his playing days.

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 2:19 pm
  • A-Rod is going all anecdotal right now. I’m not sure what he’s talking about. Something about a letterman jacket. Bizarre answer.

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:20 pm
  • “When I was a junior, I could bench press 310lbs..”
    What the f*cking f*ck? Really???

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 2:21 pm
  • I got the answer. He’s basically saying that he was “stronger” when he wasn’t doing the drugs. Long story short: Childhood Poverty is the greatest PED of all (cue old record of Whitney Houston).

    walein February 17, 2009, 2:22 pm
  • I actually feel sorry for ARod. Call me a bleeding heart but this guy has gone through so much shit since he has come to the Yankees. Yes, much of it is self-inflicted, expecially the fact that he took PED’s.
    I am off the ripping-on-ARod bandwagon.

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:23 pm
  • “Not being honest with myself” meme again.. oof.

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 2:23 pm
  • Oh this should be fun
    “Describe the first time you were injected…”

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:23 pm
  • He already does Lock…what’s the difference?

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:23 pm
  • This fucking question is ridiculous. Why don’t you ask him the first time he touched a woman was?

    walein February 17, 2009, 2:23 pm
  • It’s going to be so, so, so much worse.

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 2:25 pm
  • That was a great twist on the old aphorisms. I want Jellyneck to come out and answer the rest of the questions.

    walein February 17, 2009, 2:25 pm
  • shit, the streaming just went haywire, so I’m left to imagine the answer:
    “It was a sultry night. I was lying on a towel in my living room. “I am the Fire Starter” blared from the speakers. My cousin asked if I was ready…”

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:25 pm
  • I had my best year when I was 20. And I had my other best year in 2007. And this is my other brother Daryl.

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 2:25 pm
  • Does anyone else feel it’s relevant that PED’s were not banned during this timeframe? Wrong, yes.
    (i know, illegal yet not banned. dudes with coke issues have gotten off lighter than ARod so far)

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:26 pm
  • It’s already been pretty bad Lock…but that’s my point. Go out there, crush the ball, shut up the idiots and win a championship!

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:28 pm
  • krueg, are you saying that the amount of media attention paid to PED use is a little out of hand. Well, I disagree! These players are role models for our children.
    Meanwhile, a reporter at Padres camp asks Brian Giles a second ago
    “So, what part of your game are you looking to improve in 2009?”

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:28 pm
  • What’s amazing is that he is 2nd only to Canseco in actual public disclosure.
    Everyone else just lied. He won’t win though.

    walein February 17, 2009, 2:30 pm
  • Question: “What about A?”
    Answer: “B, D, F, and C knew E.”
    Question: “But what about A?”
    Answer: “Skittles.”
    Question: “Okay. How about A?”
    Answer: “I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.”
    Question: “Cool. A?”
    Answer: “Foul pole to foul pole.”
    Question: “90 degrees. Ever heard of A??”
    Answer: “A grape can kill a dog. I hope I answered your question.”

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 2:32 pm
  • Meanwhile, Brett Myers was just asked how his shoulder feels and he answered by punching the female reporter in the face. The rest of the press-core just laughed and said that’s Brett being Brett. Did you know his dad was a boxer???? OMG LOL

    walein February 17, 2009, 2:33 pm
  • Here is the difference.
    Arod gets a solid booing every time he comes to the plate at Fenway, but as soon as he cracks one out, the place goes silent.
    Opposing fans, right or wrong, are going to assume he’s still on the juice, making everything he does on the field a booable offense.
    I assume he’s still using something, he has the money to get drugs they can’t test for and masking agents to make sure they never can.

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 2:33 pm
  • I really thought that Alex did the best job he could given the situation he put himself in. He seemed reasonably forthcoming compared to the many others who have been implicated and he also seemed not to try to redirect blame too much. Its gonna have to be good enough for now. Id love to see a monster year from him.

    sam-YF February 17, 2009, 2:33 pm
  • ARod 2009 AL MVP…bring it.

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:34 pm
  • And the whole thing ends with ZIllo asking the reporters not to “trample each other,” which is about the perfect unintended metaphor for the whole situation.
    My vote: Basically he seemed pretty honest. And the last part at the end about just wanting to get to baseball after a shitty year, well, i think we can all relate to that, especially with the dow down another 250 points.
    PLAY BALL!!!

    YF February 17, 2009, 2:34 pm
  • So I go to CBS Sportsline to watch a live video feed and as the Web page opens, up pops an ad for Leonardo DiCaprio’s new movie, Body of Lies.
    BINGO!

    I'mBillMcNeal February 17, 2009, 2:36 pm
  • Yawn. This feels like Max Headroom. Amazing at the time but twenty years later you can’t remember what the fuss was about.
    Now I’m waiting for the other 103 names if reporters have the nuts to ask the questions. For instance, Abraham talks big on his blog but is a coward even in a press conference.
    Seems like Pudge’s name is on that list.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3911550&name=Neyer_Rob

    Rob February 17, 2009, 2:38 pm
  • Nick: I think that was scarcasm? Screw kids. Parents should be their only role models. Overprotective parents are the WORST! I rode a bike for years with no helmet and lived! ;)
    Lock: He gets booed EVERYWHERE…not going to matter. The fact that you think he is still on something because he has money? They all have money. Be careful, glass houses and all that. Papi got a lot better when he went to Boston, no? A little bigger too? (for the record, i really don’t care who took what)

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:39 pm
  • I assume he’s still using something, he has the money to get drugs they can’t test for and masking agents to make sure they never can.
    Blood and urine tests are saved. What can’t be shown today can be always be shown tomorrow. Ask Armstrong.

    Rob February 17, 2009, 2:40 pm
  • > Yawn. This feels like Max Headroom.
    It’s better than being forced to watch The fucking Bachelor, as I had to last night.

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 2:40 pm
  • “Win a world series and all this goes away…”
    Anyone else, yeah, probably.
    A-Rod, no.
    Yankee fans love to hate him as much as everyone not a Patriots fan loves to hate the Patriots.
    Make that MOST Yankee fans.

    I'mBillMcNeal February 17, 2009, 2:40 pm
  • By the way, how much longer are we going to wait before even one name of the 103 is made public? How long before one of those names comes forward on their own?

    Rob February 17, 2009, 2:42 pm
  • If I wanted to do a parody of this news conference, I couldn’t write one any better than what A-Rod just gave us.

    I'mBillMcNeal February 17, 2009, 2:42 pm
  • me too, gerb. awful.

    YF February 17, 2009, 2:44 pm
  • Why when this topic is raised do so many Yankee fans throw Ortiz out? I will pass the same judgment on Ortiz when he’s proven to have used. Not one second before that and neither should anyone else.
    Krueg, I don’t think you’re understanding the difference between how fans have treated him in the past and they will now treat him. It is going to be SO much worse, every at bat, every game, for the rest of his playing days. I don’t know if he has the thick skin to take it.

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 2:45 pm
  • I’m confused. Were YF and gerbil both (on different coasts no less) required to watch the (fucking?) Bachelor last night? What are the chances?

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:45 pm
  • Of course, not one reporter followed up on the Ripped Fuel angle.
    OMG He used another PED!1111!11!!!

    Rob February 17, 2009, 2:45 pm
  • yf, awful is a good word. so is miserable. cruel. inhumane. it’s just the worst thing i’ve ever had to watch on tv in my life.

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 2:47 pm
  • It’s better than being forced to watch The fucking Bachelor, as I had to last night.
    I love my wife even more right now. Watched UCONN-Pitt with me.

    Rob February 17, 2009, 2:47 pm
  • Bottom line…many people hate ARod. Always have, always will. It wouldn’t matter if he saved a baby from a burning building, they would still hate him.
    He made a mistake and apologized for it. Now, as Yankee fans (screw the rest of ya!) it’s time to support this guy! We all know he has a soft, nougaty center that needs a little positive energy! Like it or not, he’s in pinstripes for the rest of our lives for the most part! (that means you SF…ya codger!)
    (all in jest people…because I love you guys)

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:47 pm
  • Especially with his final answer, he came off pretty genuine. I’m definitely more willing to put this in the past now than after the Gammons interview.

    J (yf) February 17, 2009, 2:47 pm
  • > do so many Yankee fans throw Ortiz out?
    NOOO!!!! Not throwing him out! I _hope_ he used so then we can sign him as is our mode! Gah. Why doesn’t anyone get that?

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 2:48 pm
  • Lockland, you don’t think A-Rod will be able to handle booing? REALLY?
    Just stop. The only reason you’re predicting A-Rod to break down and cry every at bat is because you want him to.

    AndrewYF February 17, 2009, 2:48 pm
  • “. It wouldn’t matter if he saved a baby from a burning building, they would still hate him.”
    If this happened people would ask why he didnt put the fire out too…

    sam-YF February 17, 2009, 2:49 pm
  • It is going to be SO much worse, every at bat, every game, for the rest of his playing days. I don’t know if he has the thick skin to take it.
    I disagree. I think most fans are smarter than what the mediots tell them to believe. There will be a mix of feelings, but for the first time the guy is human. And if those 103 names come out, as they should, no fan will be spared. We will all have rooted, at one time or another, for a “cheater”.

    Rob February 17, 2009, 2:51 pm
  • sam, people will wonder why he didn’t prevent the fire from happening in the first place.

    AndrewYF February 17, 2009, 2:52 pm
  • > If this happened people would ask why he didnt put the fire out too…
    But his cousin gave him the gift of fire. Except he called it “HOT, HOT.. DON’T TOUCH. owwie.”

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 2:52 pm
  • I basically agree that A-Rod couldn’t have said anything that really would quiet the storm that will follow, but if I don’t think he did such a good job today, and this goes beyond some of the legal issues that loomed over some of these answers (the cousin one for instance). Basically, he needed to, at the very least, say he cheated and he didn’t. He might not have believed that he cheated, but he needed to say that. He also needed to say that this drug gave him an advantage, and he didn’t.
    Meanwhile, Brian Giles calmly enjoys a gatorade and a game of catch with his teammates.

    Nick-YF February 17, 2009, 2:53 pm
  • I’m just saying it’s going to be a LOT worse and I’m curious to see how he reacts to it. That’s it.
    But yes, I would love it if he broke down and cried every at bat.

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 2:54 pm
  • Well, we will have to agree to disagree, I’m certain it’s going to be MUCH worse, luckily the season starts soon so we will find out.

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 2:56 pm
  • > And if those 103 names come out, as they should
    Maybe they should, maybe not. At this point, I guess it depends on how it gets presented. Do you really care if they actually get released? I don’t. And I don’t care that there is a sideshow being created for our pleasure/their revenue dollars, except it’s a fun diversion. Just like the fact the game is only a diversion.

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 2:58 pm
  • Gossip Girl repeats obviated a viewing of Iron Chef America repeat. Bachelor? Yeesh.

    SF February 17, 2009, 2:58 pm
  • No one hates the Patties anymore Bill…they didn’t even win the AFC East. That would be the Miami Dolphins!!! ;)

    krueg February 17, 2009, 2:59 pm
  • I’m certain it’s going to be MUCH worse, luckily the season starts soon so we will find out.
    Can you name one team that you think was clean? I’m not sure I can. Just by the names we already know, a whole bunch are out. You really think you could boo if it comes out that Nomar was guilty?
    Any fan that boos at this point because of PEDs is just waiting for the other shoe to drop of their favored team.

    Rob February 17, 2009, 3:01 pm
  • Lock: I’m not saying Papi did anything, I’m just saying that ANYONE could be having this press conference today…
    I totally get what you guys are saying. He will be booed unmerficully…until he crushes a game winning homer. I don’t think the road fans reactions will be nearly as crippling as you guys think. He is used to it. Now if he gets it at home as well, then maybe.

    krueg February 17, 2009, 3:01 pm
  • More laughable than the press conference is the WEEI Big Show’s dissection of it.

    I'mBillMcNeal February 17, 2009, 3:02 pm
  • > Do you really care if they actually get released?
    Absolutely. I think every team should have the joy of a day like today. And Bud can keep saying nothing is his fault and that he did all he could.

    Rob February 17, 2009, 3:02 pm
  • At what point did I say it was right? I don’t think any team is clean, but that doesn’t matter.
    I’m talking about what’s going to happen in the real world.

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 3:03 pm
  • Nick YF: He said/did more than pretty much every other person accused of taking a prescription without a doctor’s note, no? Pettite aside…

    krueg February 17, 2009, 3:04 pm
  • Can you name one team that you think was clean?
    The Washington Generals.

    SF February 17, 2009, 3:04 pm
  • I haven’t been around in awhile…didn’t even notice the little reply link under the posts. YFSF is really moving up in the world!!!

    krueg February 17, 2009, 3:05 pm
  • > Now if he gets it at home as well, then maybe.
    No chance in hell. The guy very publicly fell on a sword. People understand that. Scattered boos, yes. But they’ll be fleeting. I expect he’s won over fans he never had and he hasn’t lost any already on his side. Net gain.

    Rob February 17, 2009, 3:06 pm
  • Pittsburgh Pirates? Might explain why they have sucked for so long…

    krueg February 17, 2009, 3:06 pm
  • I don’t think he’ll get it at Yankee Stadium 2.0 either…he’s our guy and like it or not we need him to produce.

    krueg February 17, 2009, 3:08 pm
  • “You really think you could boo if it comes out that Nomar was guilty?”
    Most of us are pretty sure now that Nomar is guilty. We all saw the SI cover, also known as Exhibit I.
    To be fair, though, we need to ask: Are we SFs willing to condemn Nomie because we really think he did PEDs or because he whined his way out of town and it therefore is convenient?
    Good question. I can’t answer it right now.

    I'mBillMcNeal February 17, 2009, 3:09 pm
  • > I’m talking about what’s going to happen in the real world.
    Yeah, in the real world where humans try to maintain some consistent principles. Booing a steroids guy is very old at this point in baseball history. I was catcalling Canseco as a steroids user when I was a kid. That was over twenty years ago.
    > The Washington Generals.
    Excellent, but how did they manage to win those two games?

    Rob February 17, 2009, 3:10 pm
  • For your sake, I hope you’re right. The fan masses can be insane though, if he has a little slump and Ks a few times with runners in scoring position at key moments, it could change quickly.

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 3:11 pm
  • “Absolutely. I think every team should have the joy of a day like today. And Bud can keep saying nothing is his fault and that he did all he could.”
    Rob is 100 percent on the money here.

    I'mBillMcNeal February 17, 2009, 3:11 pm
  • I think you’re giving the general baseball fan community way too much credit, but we will see. I’m pretty sure I’m going to be right.

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 3:13 pm
  • What if he comes out and donates $10 million to some drug-free kids non-profit? Does anti-PED commercials and talks to kids groups, etc.
    Would that change any of the haters opinions?

    krueg February 17, 2009, 3:14 pm
  • > Most of us are pretty sure now that Nomar is guilty. We all saw the SI cover, also known as Exhibit I.
    Okay. How about one player from 2004? Say Varitek? Or Dave Roberts?
    You booing A-Rod then for anything other than him being a Yankee?

    Rob February 17, 2009, 3:15 pm
  • “Pittsburgh Pirates? Might explain why they have sucked for so long…”
    You have to make contact with the ball for the steroids to help, so they are still suspect.

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 3:15 pm
  • This season is going to be defining for him for sure. I’m just glad we have such a strong team around him. This has to be the best Yankee team on paper that ARod has been a part of? They rally around him like they seem to be doing and we could be all good. In fact, I expect it!

    krueg February 17, 2009, 3:18 pm
  • I don’t think so, Arod is Arod. So many people want to hate him and the haters, the majority of opposing baseball fans, just got the best piece of ammunition possible.
    Other players simply aren’t hated as much, being on that list won’t damage them the same way.

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 3:18 pm
  • > I’m pretty sure I’m going to be right.
    Yeah? How are you going to tell? What’s the test?

    Rob February 17, 2009, 3:18 pm
  • > This has to be the best Yankee team on paper that ARod has been a part of?
    I’d feel alot better if Manny was hitting behind A-Rod. Matsui or Posada just isn’t the same thing.

    Rob February 17, 2009, 3:20 pm
  • Does anyone have any news on the status of the list? Speculation, either way, if and when more names might come out?

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 3:20 pm
  • Good point!

    krueg February 17, 2009, 3:21 pm
  • If he gets cheater chants, Aroid, who’s your dealer, etc.. At every at bat, every away game, for the rest of his playing days.

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 3:22 pm
  • > Absolutely. I think every team should have the joy of a day like today.
    I thought it was a *yawn*.
    Wait, you’re right. It is a yawn. People going or not going to the game will not care about this going forward, not anymore. This has little to do with the Yankees except it was the highest paid player in the game that stepped up to the mic for a farcical confession. The Yankees and every other team now can relax, because the fans will attend or not attend games for reasons other than PED use. It is finished as an issue other than a point for articles by writers and television producers. ARod’s spectacle of a news conference today saw to that. Everyone who would follow by way of outing or confession was done the greatest favor by him, because from here on, it doesn’t matter anymore. It’s just a happenstance distraction, and whether labeled acceptance, hypocrisy or laziness, I’m certain that people are going to spend their money and time on baseball with today’s de-boning relegating future “expositions” to sidebar material. I “Look Forward” in a literal sense to all the articles trying to rectify changes in revenue with “the impact of the steroid era” vs. “the impact of the recession.”
    and quit.

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 3:22 pm
  • “Okay. How about one player from 2004? Say Varitek? Or Dave Roberts?”
    Maybe I’m a SF all alone on this one, but no one is a saint, even if they were a member of the best team of my rooting life. So I don’t really get why broaching this very distinct possibility is supposedly so horrific. The odds are really pretty good that one of “the 25″ is also one of “the 104.” This bothers me, but not because all my purest hopes and dreams have been dashed.

    FenSheaParkway February 17, 2009, 3:23 pm
  • Texeira is going to be a beast. We don’t need Manny..we have pitching now, remember? I just want the season to start already! All ARod can do what he does best…play baseball.
    sidenote: This site is the best because of the civil discourse between our respective fanbases. I cannot even imagine what’s going on out there in idiot world…

    krueg February 17, 2009, 3:24 pm
  • I think most rational fans of ANY team at this point would agree with you bro…

    krueg February 17, 2009, 3:27 pm
  • I also agree, I’m pretty certain at least one of The 25 wasn’t clean, but that doesn’t matter to a lot of people. Nobody on that team is as universally hated as Arod, not even Schilling.

    LocklandSF February 17, 2009, 3:29 pm
  • > The guy very publicly fell on a sword.
    Missed that quote… Agree completely. And by doing so, everything is done. Not quite Montague/Capulet, but close enough.

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 3:30 pm
  • well said AG…you are a wordsmith my friend.

    krueg February 17, 2009, 3:31 pm
  • It’s so weird to actually hate an athlete…aside from say a Claude Lemieux-type that actually intentionally injures someone.

    krueg February 17, 2009, 3:32 pm
  • > So I don’t really get why broaching this very distinct possibility is supposedly so horrific.
    My point was only that such a fact would make any SF pause before booing A-Rod for any reason other than his current uniform. Margo Adams, of course, didn’t prevent fans from wearing blond wigs. But this somehow seems different.
    > Everyone who would follow by way of outing or confession was done the greatest favor by him, because from here on, it doesn’t matter anymore.
    I agree. A-Rod has taken the brunt of the scorn and each player after him will get it easier. I even think McGwire will get a huge sympathy vote before his 15 years are up.
    Still, that doesn’t prevent me from wishing every team could experience the spotlight for a day each.
    > Nobody on that team is as universally hated as Arod, not even Schilling.
    Speak for yourself. And in the history of the game, A-Rod, and Schilling, will be judged accordingly. Of course, given the Sox PR office, Schilling will somehow find a way into Cooperstown
    > If he gets cheater chants, Aroid, who’s your dealer, etc.. At every at bat, every away game, for the rest of his playing days.
    So they play in Oakland or Pacbell and those fans start in with that nonsense? Or Texas after Pudge is outed? Baltimore and Palmeiro and Tejada?

    Rob February 17, 2009, 3:39 pm
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    I cannot see additional comments for some reason? i click on the “show more comments” and nothing happens. I have to post something everyone in awhile to be able to see subsequent post. not cool.

    krueg February 17, 2009, 3:39 pm
  • That was a joke about the Sox PR office but with a bit of angry spite thrown in because I’m annoyed by the witch hunt led by moral crusaders aka sportswriters.
    Boycott Kellogg’s!

    Rob February 17, 2009, 3:41 pm
  • 1. When admitting steroid use, please don’t use the phrase “I’m going to sit here and take my medicine.”
    2. If you need to buy your steroids in the Dominican Republic, they are not “over the counter” steroids.
    3. Tic-Tac endorsement pending.

    Dave February 17, 2009, 3:47 pm
  • > not cool
    Agreed. The authors curse this with words our cousins taught us that we can’t remember the names of. We are working on it.

    attackgerbil February 17, 2009, 3:47 pm
  • I’m listening to 1050 in NYC and people are SO PISSED…it’s weird.
    But then I think about how much baseball means to people. Baseball is admittedly my third favorite sport behind football and hockey. Actually, I don’t really like baseball, just the Yankees so I really don’t care about PED’s very much. But for those of you that are huge baseball fans, which is most of you guys on here, I guess I understand the anger.

    krueg February 17, 2009, 4:11 pm
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    krueg February 17, 2009, 4:19 pm
  • I have a feeling people don’t boo A-Rod because of his uniform alone. I have a feeling they won’t boo him because of the steroids alone. I have a feeling they don’t boo A-Rod because he does things Little Leaguers aren’t supposed to do, alone. I have a feeling they don’t boo him because he cheated on his wife with Madonna, alone. I have a feeling they don’t boo him because he left his first ballclub to play for a ridiculous contract in what, in retrospect, looked like a dead-end opportunity to win, alone. I have a feeling they don’t boo him because, despite playing for the team they love, they only remember the times he f*cked up in the clutch, alone. I have a feeling they don’t boo him because he’s an amazing ballplayer, perhaps the best ever, who seems almost irrationally insecure.
    I have a feeling people boo him for all of these things, in different proportions.
    Me, I don’t boo him. I love watching him play. But I don’t like him, at all. The former is what really matters. The latter doesn’t, since I am not a Yankees fan. I like my players likeable, in a vacuum. We don’t live in a vacuum, of course.

    SF February 17, 2009, 5:04 pm
  • “But for those of you that are huge baseball fans, which is most of you guys on here, I guess I understand the anger.”
    I don’t know anyone personally who likes Baseball more than I do, but anger isn’t what I’m feeling here. Acceptance and morbid fascination is more like it. I’m not even sure at who or what I ought to be angry.

    FenSheaParkway February 17, 2009, 5:25 pm
  • I think fans will boo ARod MUCH harder than before. It’s easy to justify… “well OUR player who got caught wasn’t the best player in baseball!” It’s hypocritical, but since when are baseball fans logical 100% of the time? You’re talking about a player that gets booed in his home stadium, despite being the best player in the game.
    Why does Bonds get so much universal hate compared to other suspected steroid users? Because he’s the one breaking all the records. ARod, similarly, is going to get more hate because he’s the best player in the game. This seems pretty obvious to me.
    As for the “the 25″ being on the list… I suspect Varitek, Trot and Damon. I’d be sad to hear Papi or Manny are on the list. I’d be devastated to hear it was Pedro.

    Atheose February 17, 2009, 9:02 pm
  • people will boo arod for this particular character flaw until they get bored with the whole thing, and they will…like sf says, there is a buffet of other reasons for booing the guy…it’s become the sport within the sport…with any luck he’ll learn to ignore it…eventually, as other names leak [someone's probably working on that right now] more fans will realize that they had heroes who were flawed, boredom with the topic will set in, and perhaps they’ll let up a bit, or not, because he’s arod…back to the buffet

    dc February 17, 2009, 10:22 pm
  • However ridiculous, dishonest and unforthright A-Rod’s version might be, he’s got nothing on this guy: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-burris-18-feb18,0,6205161.story

    I'mBillMcNeal February 18, 2009, 8:26 am

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