Alex Opts Out; Girardi to Replace Joe?

Today rightfully belongs to the Red Sox, deserved champions of MLB, but business is business, so we report two bombshells for the Yankees: SI reports that Alex Rodriguez has opted out of his contract, and that Joe Girardi will likely be named as the new Yankee manager in the immediate future. Okay Bomber fans. The Sox are celebrating, so we can talk amongst ourselves.

86 comments… add one

  • Hudson-Mulder-Zito. I’m hoping we have a new big three and soon!

    Nick-YF October 29, 2007, 9:23 am
  • I was an ARod supporter all the time he’s been here. I thought he was misunderstood, unfairly singled out, etc etc. I thought he was sincere all the times he said he wanted to stay in New York. After the classless way in which he and Boras handled this, I retract everything I ever said to defend him. Upstaging the World Series, informing the organization via a voice/text message is beyond disrespectful…He’s a phony, a bald-faced liar and he can go to hell. Hank Steinbrenner said it: If you don’t want to be a Yankee, we don’t want you.
    Sorry about the rant.

    yankeemonkey October 29, 2007, 9:34 am
  • Oh hell, I basically agree with what you just wrote YM. I just hope I’m not being overly emotional, but the timing of this decision just stinks.

    Nick-YF October 29, 2007, 9:36 am
  • Read Olney’s article on ESPN.com. It’s so true, unfortunately as Yankee fans we hoped it wasn’t, but in the end Alex only cares about Alex. No respect shown for the Red Sox/Rockies or the game overall last night.
    As for Girardi, I am happy about the choice, I just worry we have seen the last of Donnie. The Yankees pulled him out of coaching his son’s LL teams to come back to coach. He was apprehensive at first, but really seemed find comfort quickly in the dugout. I know Girardi is the better choice, but my heart tells me otherwise.

    John - YF October 29, 2007, 9:41 am
  • Girardi is going to ahve to convert me because based on his announcing and his work with the Marlins, I am not too excited about him managing the Yanks.

    Nick-YF October 29, 2007, 9:43 am
  • Girardi is the better baseball mind than Donnie. Its a bit of a cliche but Catchers really do make the best managers. It remains to be seen how Joe would adopt his approach from a Marlin team of youngsters to the mix of Vets and young players on the yankees. If he could find a good balance, he will be OK.
    As for A-Rod, this whole think reeks. Boras must have a firm grasp of an offer from some team. I think he goes to San Francisco. The way he put himself and A-Rod above the game was gross. The yankees can be better off with out him in the long run. The next year or two could be tough. Its gonna be interesting to see if the Sox target him, after our experience with him Id say they should pass but who knows…

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 9:47 am
  • “I got a call from Alex tonight and he is going to opt out,” Boras told The Post last night during Game 4 of the World Series. “He was just too unsure with new ownership talking about a transition where the organization is going right now. He is not sure what is going to happen with (free agents) Mariano (Rivera) and (Jorge) Posada, and if Andy Pettitte is coming back. He needs more time to assess where the Yankees are going in the future.”
    I guess Alex reads this site, he has bought into the gloom and doom theory trying to be sold by some Red Sox fans here.

    John - YF October 29, 2007, 9:48 am
  • “Its a bit of a cliche but Catchers really do make the best managers.”
    Couldn’t agree more Sam. Speaking as an ex-catcher of course.

    John - YF October 29, 2007, 9:50 am
  • that is simply the worst excuse of all time. Like he really cares about who is on the team. He didnt make his decision to sign a $250 mil contract in texas based on who was catching and closing for them. If he was truely worried about that maybe he should have waited a few days to see how those negotiations played out. What a complete crock…

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 9:51 am
  • Exactly Sam. Even if the Yankees lost every player named by Boras, they would still be in better shape then the Giants. So don’t use that as an excuse.

    John - YF October 29, 2007, 9:54 am
  • I was surprised by the timing of it, but ya. I stood up for ARod through the good and the bad, and bah. Ah well.

    Lar October 29, 2007, 10:01 am
  • Good profile of Boras in last week’s New Yorker. It doesn’t surprise me one bit he used the WS to announce his precious he will be leaving us.
    I’ll admit it sucks A-Rod that is leaving. Granted, the alternatives we have right now are serviceable, (Bettemitt), but c’mon, they don’t have A-Rod’s bat. But at the same time, I’ll be glad to see the drama and the psychoanalysts go away.
    As far as Giradi goes, couldn’t be happier. The question is, who are his coaches? Does Donnie stay (probably not)? Does Girardi bring Torre in as a Special Advisor ala Zimmer (talk about awkward)?
    I don’t know. This team is in a transition period, but like a true fan, I’ll wait. Our time is gonna come.

    rz-yf October 29, 2007, 10:06 am
  • the yankees should release the figures of the offer they were prepared to offer Alex and increase them by about 50%. This will make this move look like a failure when he doesnt even get close to that amount.

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 10:06 am
  • For the record, I don’t deny Alex’s right to test the market and see if he can get a better offer elsewhere. This is a business. What I’m truly mad about is the way in which the situation was handled. And the excuse he gives (“…his closer…his catcher” wtf?) is so lame as to be comical. Did Boras even say it out loud before he went to press with it? Does he realize how absurd it sounds?

    yankeemonkey October 29, 2007, 10:06 am
  • rz-
    Torre aint advising anyone in the yankees organiation for at least a few years. Plus he’s gonna be in dodger blue by the end of the month if you believe what you read in the post. (which could be a questionable thing to do)

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 10:07 am
  • Sam -
    Given that Tito followed the Disaster Little and won the WS, it might not be a bad move for Torre to do the same. (I know, totally different circumstances, but I couldn’t help making a dig at Little.)

    rz-yf October 29, 2007, 10:10 am
  • 2008 Free Agent Third Basemen
    Tony Batista WAS
    Aaron Boone FLA
    Russell Branyan STL
    Jeff Cirillo ARZ
    Pedro Feliz SF
    Corey Koskie * MIL
    Mike Lamb HOU
    Mike Lowell BOS
    Greg Norton * TB
    Abraham O. Nunez PHI
    Something tells me if Cash doesn’t feel comfortable with Betemit at 3rd, that we don’t choose anyone from the list above. There is no way Boston doesn’t re-sign Lowell now. Take him off that list and it’s quite ugly…

    John - YF October 29, 2007, 10:13 am
  • John, what do you think of Adrian Beltre who is set to make $24 mil the next two years. He’s supposed to be an amazing fielder and he did once hit 48 homers. Have to say, I like the idea of seeing if he’s available.

    Nick-YF October 29, 2007, 10:18 am
  • the yanks can always make lowell an offer he cant refuse…

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 10:19 am
  • the yanks seem to only be making offers people refuse these days.

    Nick-YF October 29, 2007, 10:21 am
  • Bringing the Boone back will be like us trying to recapture our past magic. We’ve never tried before! It just might work ;)
    Ugh, very ugly list indeed. There’s no way Boston doesn’t re-sign him

    rz-yf October 29, 2007, 10:22 am
  • yeah nick except that A-Rod wasnt even man enough to hear the yanks offer or meet them face to face.

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 10:28 am
  • I’ve been afraid to say I wanted to see A-Rod go – I’m not afraid anymore. I felt sorry for him last year with all of the booing, etc. This year was different – was that a consideration for A-Rod? No, A-Rod is about A-Rod; just look when he chose to make this announcement. A-Rod can’t handle NY – what if this year was his best and he had to endure boos all over again, not to mention we’d have had to pay him for the next 8 years? Plus the Boras factor – they were always going to opt out. He is not his own man and never was – he went to Texas for the money and hated it there. Everywhere he goes the fans will loathe him except perhaps in San Francisco. Imagine how he’ll be received at The Stadium when he arrives next season. It was an ugly move as far as timing. He and his wife lack class – remember the F**k You T-shirt. Goodbye A-Rod.

    Misi October 29, 2007, 10:35 am
  • So I guess for the first time all year, A-Rod has managed to rally both Red Sox AND Yankees fans around the fact that he’s a classless jerk? ;-)

    Paul SF October 29, 2007, 10:41 am
  • you got it Paul.

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 10:44 am
  • Nick, inquiring about Beltre wouldn’t be a bad move. I would imagine that the M’s would sooner move “Big Sexy” Richie Sexson, but it can’t hurt to talk right? He is a solid option for sure.

    John - YF October 29, 2007, 10:44 am
  • I just don’t feel that bad about A-Rod going and not because something he has done in the past 24 hours makes me believe that he cares more about himself than anyone else (though the timing was absurdly stupid) – at least any more than I ever thought that before.
    No, me feelings on this very closely match rz’s comment from above: “I’ll be glad to see the drama and the psychoanalysts go away”. I couldn’t agree more – this guy comes with so much freaking baggage that I’m happy to see him move it to another city.
    When Gammons unloaded on A-Rod last night, saying “buyer beware…this guy has never played in a World Series and maybe there is a reason for that” (for Gammons, that is unloading) – it felt so true to me.
    A-Rod just comes with too much crap.
    And I don’t think he is going to San Francisco, where it will be a hell of lot harder for him to hit his home runs. I think LAA or Chicago Cubs are the front runners. He plays unbelievably great at that stadium in LA (I think it is statistically his best stadium, or in the top 2-3) and in Chicago I’d expect him to get on the fast-track to the HR record. Plus everyone knows hom much he loves Lou Piniella in Chicago.
    But in the end, I just don’t really care where he goes.
    As for Girardi, I’d love to see him managing though I’d feel bad for Mattingly.
    With each passing day the Yankees are more and more clearly in transition mode and that is fine for me. I’d rather be in transition than forever hanging on to the past. And on that note, I hope we get Posada, Mo, and Pettitte, but I hope we don’t signe any of them to more than a 2-year deal.
    If nothign else, next year will be the most interesting year for this team in a very long time.

    IronHorse (yf) October 29, 2007, 10:47 am
  • Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 10:53 am
  • Now if we could only find some takers for Farnsworth, Mussina and Giambi this team could be 100% drama free (player wise) in 2008.

    John - YF October 29, 2007, 10:53 am
  • With each passing day the Yankees are more and more clearly in transition mode and that is fine for me. I’d rather be in transition than forever hanging on to the past.
    Word.

    yankeemonkey October 29, 2007, 10:55 am
  • Shadowing IH’s comments above, next year’s transitioning will make the last year in THRB anti-climactic, but thank god it won’t make the new Stadium the House that ARod built (even though, in a way, it kinda has, but whatever. Just ignore that part)

    rz-yf October 29, 2007, 10:56 am
  • Who is going to hold Jeter’s bat .. bring back Torre as Jeter’s personal bat boy .. best of both worlds as Girardi is much needed in the skipper’s seat.

    The Empire YF October 29, 2007, 10:56 am
  • How’s this for a scenario: The Sox and Yankees swap 3B. The Sox actually get the better draft choices (even as both get two) because of how they both finished :) Imagine that – the Sox could get A-Rod and move up in the draft essentially trading their 1st round pick for that of the team Lowell signs with.
    But, yes, I’ll be bitching might hard if they don’t sign Lowell. Schilling too. Both are so cheap that they should be foregone conclusions.
    Otherwise, the Yankees didn’t pick a bad time for a transition. The old/new stadiums will keep the seats full. And they’re breaking in the new arms. Plus, with Santana and Cabrera hitting free agency soon, I suspect they’ll find a way to spend the A-Rod money.

    Pete October 29, 2007, 11:21 am
  • “I suspect they’ll find a way to spend the A-Rod money.”
    Yeah and his name is Andruw Jones…

    John - YF October 29, 2007, 11:22 am
  • John (YF): I would take Aaron Rowand over Andruw Jones any day.
    And Pete, I would love for Boston to get A-Rod. Really. No surer way for them to screw up the very exciting momentum they’ve built up these past few years.

    IronHorse (yf) October 29, 2007, 11:27 am
  • Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 11:38 am
  • My dream scenario (were the Sox to go after A-Rod, and after this stunt, I’m not sure I want him anymore): Sox sign A-Rod and Lowell, move A-Rod to short. Trade Lugo, Crisp and whatever prospects (plaus picking up part of Lugo’s salary) for Santana. That’d be cool.

    Paul SF October 29, 2007, 11:40 am
  • ugh…Andruw Jones, really? Not my choice.
    And Paul, that move would be silly, as in silly good. Wanna wager that it’ll happen?
    PS. Manny’s Las Tres Marias es no mas.

    rz-yf October 29, 2007, 11:44 am
  • Like I said, it’s a dream. It could happen, but not incredibly likely.

    Paul SF October 29, 2007, 11:44 am
  • so basically Paul the moves you are looking for is the Sox should get ALL of the best players and assemble and All-Star team?
    Now you’re thinking like a yankees fan! Welcome to the club….

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 11:47 am
  • Again, I’m not “looking for” it. I just threw out my dream scenario, which would — surprise! — include the Red Sox getting all the best players. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be much of a dream, would it?
    Sorry I even brought it up.

    Paul SF October 29, 2007, 11:53 am
  • Only way the Sox get Santana is trading Lester AND Buchholz. No thanks. And I don’t think A-Rod can play SS any more.
    On Jones: The Yankees would jump into bed with Boras like that? I don’t think so.
    I can, however, see the Sox making a run at Jones (since they and Boras get on so well) especially if they’re also thinking of trading Manny.

    Pete October 29, 2007, 11:55 am
  • im just razzing you Paul. I know that you understand this game well enough to realize the small chances of something like that happening. But you do have to admit that not many team’s fans have dreams like maybe we can sign A-Rod and trade for Santana in the same off-season. without even mentioning Lowell…

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 11:55 am
  • Paul: Right now you have the best team. If you trade that for the best players at every position, the RS will not be nearly as good as they are now (in my opinion – and from a fan of a team that went down that road already and is now trying to right itself).
    On this point, I just watched “Miracle” again. Maybe the best sports movie of all time rivaling Bull Durham. The line “I’m not looking for the best players – I’m looking for the right ones” is perfectly true and applicable to all team sports.

    IronHorse (yf) October 29, 2007, 11:58 am
  • Well, and this A-Rod thing kind of proves that. I’m not sure I buy that putting the best player in the sport on your team makes you worse on paper. But then he does crap like this…
    I mean, what kind of a person do you have to be to feel the need to upstage the World freaking Series??

    Paul SF October 29, 2007, 12:01 pm
  • Good riddance to ARod. I rooted for him like the rest of you and he was what he was, but we all know how the story ended each season in the playoffs. In my opinion, it’s time for the Yankees to go in another direction. I love Torre, Mo, Posada, Pettitte and all the old guard but those days are gone. Do I expect the Yankees to “rebuild” next year, absolutely not! We have too many talented players (and even pitchers) to think they are going to miss the playoffs…
    With ARod going away we have a ASSLOAD of $$$ to spend. Let’s try and pull off the Santana deal, sign Aaron Rowand as suggested earlier (does anyone else think he is O’Neill-esque???)and perhaps use the farm system to plug remaining holes?? (what a novel concept)
    I’m FULLY on the the side of Girardi as the next manager…I love Donnie Baseball on first base circa 1986, but not so much as the Yankee Manager in 2008. Let’s get back to what made us great for all those years…heart, hustle, defense, pitching, small-ball and timely hitting! It can be done!
    end of rant.

    krueg October 29, 2007, 12:05 pm
  • The way he did it at least makes me feel better about him leaving. While this move certainly seems like it hurts the team alot right now i think we need to reserve analysis for a few months to see the final results of the off-season. Losing A-Rod may force the yankees to be more creative. Its entirely possible they could have a better overall team without him. It of course could hurt them beyond the point of a quick repair…
    The way i see it is the best thing that ever happened to the red sox was to have their A-Rod trade fall through.

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 12:08 pm
  • Sam- looks like you were right. ARod was a soul-sucking parasite on our beloved Yankees!!! (in hindsight of course)

    krueg October 29, 2007, 12:10 pm
  • Why are YF’s clamoring for another OF? Don’t they have 4 already?

    Pete October 29, 2007, 12:10 pm
  • I’m just shocked by A-Rod. Seriously. I guess I didn’t realize what a snake Boras really is. I mean, not even hearing the Yanks’ offer? Jeez. I just want to echo what YM said in the second comment – I couldn’t say it better than that.
    Meanwhile, anyone else notice Hank Steinbrenner take shots at Torre after he left and now at A-Rod? I guess he is his father’s son…

    Sam October 29, 2007, 12:12 pm
  • Leaving it in a voice mail is especially tacky. Does Boras not understand anything about PR, or does he think he and A-Rod are immune?
    The scary thing is, they just might be…

    Paul SF October 29, 2007, 12:15 pm
  • Sam: I agree with most of what you are saying, except “the best thing that ever happened to the red sox was to have their A-Rod trade fall through”. I am not sure A-Rod significantly underperforms even as compared to Lowell’s great year(s), but more to the point, I think the unequivocally best thing to happen to the RS in recent years is winning the Josh Beckett sweepstakes while the Yankees opted for Pavano. These two simultaneous moves ensured RS pitching dominance and NY pithing chaos for a couple years that NY is only now about to emerge from with strong, young, though still largely unproven (over the long-run and in the post-season) pitching.
    This i sligthly outdoes the other dual-move – Sox winning the Dice-K sweepstakes AND getting Okajima while NY went for Kei Igawa.
    The only trade competition that NY has won over Boston in the past two years is hanging on to Joba and Melky/Cano rather than trading 2 of them for Gagne.
    And Pete, the Rowand talk comes from the possibility that either Abreu goes or that, in order to get Santana, they have to offer both Wang and Melky. (though this seemed more likely to me before I heard that MN is looking to keep Torii Hunter)

    IronHorse (yf) October 29, 2007, 12:16 pm
  • re: “SI reports that Girardi…”
    Stop with the goddamn rumor mill already.
    Even Heyman himself wrote that nothing has been said or even intimated about Torre’s successor, “I talked to many Yankee people on Saturday (most, in fact), and not a word either way from anyone.”
    The Post and Daily News are turning his “Daily Scoop” opinion into “fact” to sell papers.

    J (yf) October 29, 2007, 12:17 pm
  • IH- comparing the Pavano and Beckett moves doesnt really work. they happened in different years. The sox signed Clement after they lost out on Carl, the beckett deal was the next year. That signing didnt work out much better for them. They traded for Beckett the following season and the move was only possible bc they had an opening at 3b. The yanks werent even in play for that bc they had A-rod there and couldnt swallow the pill (or so it seemed at the time) of Mike Lowell. That indeed was the best move for them vis-a-vis this year. Not trading for A-Rod contributed to two championship teams, not one as is the case for Beckett…

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 12:21 pm
  • IH -
    You make it sound like it was either Pavano or Beckett. But who did the Yankees have to trade after the 2005 season? Their system was bare. Maybe Wang and Cano? And neither were as highly touted as Hanley (now we see for good reason). Meanwhile, where would they have played Lowell?
    Nah, the Pavano and Clement signings cancel out in my book. Beckett was something else.

    Pete October 29, 2007, 12:24 pm
  • We’ll just never know about the A-Rod non-trade, Sam. Too many moving parts. Rodriguez, Magglio Ordonez, Jon Lester all were set to move in that trade.

    Paul SF October 29, 2007, 12:24 pm
  • ESPN is now reporting the yankees officially offered the job to Girardi…
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3085167
    Joe to Joe. I like it. Sorry Donnie.

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 12:25 pm
  • Paul, indeed we will never know but the fact remains that since that trade wasnt made the sox have won two world series…It would have had some effect on that team….

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 12:26 pm
  • Sam: I stand corrected. I was thinking re: who got whom from the Florida fire-sale but you are right – two separate years.

    IronHorse (yf) October 29, 2007, 12:27 pm
  • I am trying to figure out what Boras thought the upside of announcing A-Rod’s opt-out last night was. I still haven’t.
    This leads me to believe that it was done simply because Boras and A-Rod don’t care, they are both egomaniacs and can’t stand not being the center of attention, and they think that it will have no ultimate impact on A-Rod’s new contract (they may be right about that). But I still do not understand the upside. Boras has always been an enemy of the fan, to some extent, but Rodriguez, who was complicit in this stunt (and yeah, it was a stunt, there was no need for him to announce this until today at the earliest) just sabotaged any good will he might have with scores of fans, and not just in New York. He has hurt himself with the national media, with anyone who understands the place of baseball and the World Series within popular American culture. He made himself bigger than the game last night, and for that he will be tarnished as a personality for a long time, I believe. More than he already is.

    SF October 29, 2007, 12:44 pm
  • SF, I still don’t understand the timing except as a giant F you to the Yanks front office and fans. There was a line oft-repeated about A-Rod, about how he was too concerned about how much people liked him. I think, perhaps, we’re dealing with a guy who relly doesn’t give a flying f*ck about others. Good riddance. The Yanks are rebuilding (in a way) and it should be interesting.

    Nick-YF October 29, 2007, 12:52 pm
  • It was a giant F-You to all of baseball and all of its fans.

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 12:54 pm
  • I really hope Girardi is the next manager…I feel he’s exactly what we need. Status Quo has not been producing, let’s try a new direction. Now what about Mo, Jorge and Pettitte???

    krueg October 29, 2007, 12:57 pm
  • espn and SI both are reporting that Girardi is indeed the next manager.

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 12:58 pm
  • Absolutely, Nick. They picked the largest stage to announce what they did..it screams of A-Rod saying “you won’t negotiate with me? You won’t pay me more than I’m worth? You try to take the upper hand from me?
    Ok, well I’m not coming back, and on the day that the Red Sox win the WS, I’m going to make you look even worse in the eyes of your fans”.
    I don’t agree, but in truth, he will always be able to say something like ” I wanted to stay in NY, I loved NY, I loved the Yankees, but this is a business, and they were not willing to negotiate or match another teams offer”.
    Or, he’s going to continue down the “front office problems” route, which works too.
    Either way, I’m really, really glad he’s not coming back to NY.
    My admiration for A-Rod is only trumped by that for Beckett, so yeah, I’m super excited about the fact that he’s no longer a Yankee.

    Brad October 29, 2007, 1:00 pm
  • Personally I just kind of laughed at the announcement. The great thing is that, in the end, A-Rod ISN’T bigger than the World Series, that’s been proven by both the focus on the Sox today and the sheer minutes of coverage they received on ESPN, NESN, etc. A-Rod was a footnote, though an egomaniacal, attention-starved one.
    If you surfed around the web this morning stories about the Sox dominated, everywhere. Even ESPN had the A-Rod story as a sidebar, it was really given minor space, almost like a NASCAR Busch series event. And it is, truly, a pretty big story. So in the end, even as a Sox fan, I wasn’t really offended. It was a revelatory move, in a lot of ways (just look at how many Yankee fans have shifted their views, justifiably), and for that maybe we should thank Boras and Rodriguez. Nobody has to feel obliged to defend him, other than as a ballplayer. Maybe that will liberate him, in some ways.
    In the end, the World Series always wins out as the story, and last night and today it is the same no matter how hard Boras and A-Rod tried to subvert that tradition. Another October failure for A-Rod, I suppose!

    SF October 29, 2007, 1:01 pm
  • A-Rod will probably be the best player I saw play in a Yanks uniform. His talent, and his two spectacular seasons were something else. But, at this point, I’m not sure admiration is a word I would use to describe my feeling for him. I respect his skills, his work ethic, etc.

    Nick-YF October 29, 2007, 1:02 pm
  • My cousin thought perhaps it was announced last night so that it would be buried under the Sox press coverage.

    Nick-YF October 29, 2007, 1:03 pm
  • Actually SF, I clicked over to Yahoo homepage last night 10 min after the sox won and the yahoo front page had a picture of A-Rod opting out as the lead story with a link to the AP wire and below in it much smaller type it said “sox sweep, win world series”
    So in some outlets this assclown did get the undeserved attention, at least for a little while.

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 1:04 pm
  • My only guess about the timing is that he did it to pre-emp the Yanks’ offer making the media. I think already they were saying something like 140 over 5 tacked on?
    If he can get more than that, then go for it. He might be the best player never to win a championship, and that’s that.
    I thought that the only way he would opt out is if the Yanks made a half-ass offer. I didn’t expect this after the reports the other day..

    Lar October 29, 2007, 1:05 pm
  • As soon as Buster Onley let the world know what was going on, I immediately looked at my buddy, and we laughed. Knowing that Yankee fans in bars in NY were watching the Red Sox win the WS, and then hearing that they were losing the best player on their own team, just made for one sweet moment in time… I actually loved the timing, and think that they did it on purpose. Just one big “f*ck you” to everyone for booing and talking trash about me (A-Rod).
    It must have been a heart sinking moment, I would guess.

    Brad October 29, 2007, 1:06 pm
  • brad, sorry to burst your bubble but my experience was not that at all. For starters, i wasnt watching the sox win, i can assure you most YFs werent doing so. Second, it didnt really cause me any heartbreak more surprise than anything else. the circumstances under which it happened made actually me feel good that he was leaving. it would have hurt to lose him after a negotiation. Also, i think you are way off saying they did this to get back at Yankee fans etc. If the yankees pony up the cash A-Rod would come back without thinking about it. this move was about money and ego, thats it.

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 1:11 pm
  • If he can get more than that, then go for it. He might be the best player never to win a championship, and that’s that.
    This statement is too much, Lar. He clearly has a ton of time left, and because he isn’t on the Yankees, doesn’t exactly temper the chances of him getting that ring. With the current shape of that team, he’s going to have just as good a chance to win anywhere as he does there.
    People who say that he’ll be ring-less because he isn’t in NY, or that he won’t win anywhere else, are spewing sour grapes on the issue.

    Brad October 29, 2007, 1:14 pm
  • Sam: Granted that may be your take on it, but from what I’ve gathered here at work, and with some friends, that sentiment isn’t shared by everyone.
    If A-Rod wanted to be in NY, he would, regardless of the money issues. That’s all.

    Brad October 29, 2007, 1:17 pm
  • Depends on where he goes, Brad. Now, granted, it’s not likely that a team like Pirates would sign him, but really anyplace other than LAA/Sox/Detroit would decrease his chances at a ring quite a bit.

    yankeemonkey October 29, 2007, 1:17 pm
  • Brad you are crazy if you think being on the yankees or another team gives him an equal chance of getting a ring. The yanks are condenders every year. The state of the team certainly isnt dire and if he came back they would be a top condender. He would have a much better chance of winning with us than say the Giants or the cubs.

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 1:18 pm
  • The bronx is officially burning! A-Rod just poured gasoline on the fire!

    A-Rod Opts Out October 29, 2007, 1:21 pm
  • Brad, my point is that yankee fans werent in bars all over NY at 1230 on a sunday night to watch the Red Sox win. Sorry to mess with your vision of the events.

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 1:28 pm
  • A-Rod has shown his true colors but let’s remember that we’re losing a REALLY great (regular season) player. Without him, this team would never have made the playoffs. The list of FA 3Bs is not pretty. While I’m all for the youth movement, losing Rodriguez makes this a worse ballclub next year (though maybe it’ll be a better “TEAM”).
    I love the Girardi hire. Mattingly had to be coaxed into coaching, he can say all he wants that he “really wants the job” but I’m not sure I’m buying it. Plus, if he fails, I agree with Buster Olney when he says that it would be a fiasco. He’d become a tarnished legend. There’s no such baggage with Girardi, plus I do believe he’s a better baseball mind. His performance with the Marlins was great–he made a .500 club out of guys whose collective salary didn’t equal A-Rod’s plus Jeter’s (or maybe just A-Rod’s!). If he can handle pitchers, especially young ones, we’re all set.
    Things look bleak today but I do have faith in Cashman to put a contender on the field in 2008, and in Girardi to help make it work.

    Chris October 29, 2007, 1:28 pm
  • I said it earlier, we will not know the effect of this move on the team for a few months. There is enough offense in this team if they can improve their pitching to contend. The moves cashman makes over the next few months in response to this will determine how much it hurts the team (if at all). They dont need A-Rod to win, lots of teams win without him and they still have many great players under contract along with lots of money and young pitchers to get more. Counting us out b/c of losing A-Rod is a huge mistake.

    Sam-YF October 29, 2007, 1:34 pm
  • i posted this during a sox WS gamer the other day. please, please, please, do your selves a favor and check them out. and when you pee yourself laughing, don’t blame me.
    carl from aqua teen hunger force saying goodbye to mr. torre.
    carl’s myspace page, with a diatribe on what the yankees should do next year.

    sf rod October 29, 2007, 2:09 pm
  • sf-rod, thank you for posting the Carl links. I need a laugh.

    Nick-YF October 29, 2007, 2:14 pm
  • Frankly, I’m not ticked at ARod or Boras at all, except for the timing of the announcement being godawful awkward, but outside of killing opposing pitchers everything ARod has ever done in New York has been awkward, or at least portrayed as such. Nor will I lay into Hankenstein over this. Then again, I am sorely tempted when he continues to come out with statements like, “He (Alex) doesn’t understand the privilege of being a Yankee on a team where the owners are willing to pay $200 million to put a winning product on the field.” … I am pretty sure that he understands that privilege and every downside to that privilege far better than you, Hank, since ARod actually *plays baseball* and has done so for most of his life. What a gold mine for quotes that guy is.
    The Yankees told the best player in the game, “we won’t be involved in a bidding war (because Tom Hicks happened to be a dumbass and is paying a chunk of our rent)“, in which the only leverage is if Alex doesn’t get as much money as whatever the Yankees secret best offer was, Hank can say, “nyah nyah.” Great tactic.
    At least the Yankees picked up a good-sized chunk of money to work with on this new “performance-based model” that they are “moving towards.” And just think about the fun next year in October when flawed logic lets writers say, “See, we didn’t need ARod’s 492 runs, 173 dingers, 88 swipes, .300 avg, .400 OBP, .573 SLG and ~.320 EQA he brought to the Bombers over his four seasons to not win the World Series again this year.

    attackgerbil October 29, 2007, 2:19 pm
  • ARod can take his numbers and go. Would we have made the playoffs without him this season? No. When we were winning 4 WS in 5 years, were we carried offensively by one guy? No. Did we lead the league in all offensive categories? Nope.
    Time for a change. I, for one, would rather take my chances without ARod. I would rather spread that $300 million around and get maybe 4 or 5 solid players/pitchers…

    krueg October 29, 2007, 2:38 pm
  • Brad: You may consider this revisionism, but I promise you that I quite literally felt good when I heard the A-Rod news. At first ambivalent – good and bad mixed – and then a feeling of a pall being lifted off the team. I’m sorry but no one who hasn’t had A-Rod on their team can relate. I’m sure lots of YFs felt bad, but I just didn’t As I’ve said here before, Boston’s rebuilding year was 2006 and they finished third in the ALEast to Toronto. Maybe NY will do worse enxt year, but I don’t expect so.

    Anonymous October 29, 2007, 3:22 pm
  • Sorry – that was me…

    IronHorse (yf) October 29, 2007, 3:23 pm

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