All Right, I’m Coming, I’m Coming: Sox-Tigers Gamer II

Busy day at the office. Sorry about the lateness of the thread.

Curt Schilling, The Stopper, once again is called upon to stem the bleeding and give us hope once again. Comment away!

242 comments… add one
  • Schill with 8 pitches to get out of the first.
    1. Coco Crisp, CF
    2. Mark Loretta, 2B
    3. David Ortiz, DH
    4. Manny Ramirez, LF
    5. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
    6. Mike Lowell, 3B
    7. Wily Mo Pena, RF
    8. Doug Mirabelli, C
    9. Alex Gonzalez, SS

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:14 pm
  • Real shocker, Crisp grounds out and Loretta singles to left to get on.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:17 pm
  • Ortiz flies out to deep center.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:17 pm
  • Manny K’s to end the inning.
    Schill 8 pitches to get through the 1st, Bonderman 10 pitches.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:20 pm
  • Schill 7 pitches to get through the top of the 2nd

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:27 pm
  • Sox looking equally inept on the O. It’s early, of course. And Wily Mo is up.

    SF August 15, 2006, 7:29 pm
  • WMP with a single to left.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:30 pm
  • And Pena answers with a single.

    SF August 15, 2006, 7:30 pm
  • Schill looks go with the low pitch count. Perhaps a solid performance is going to happen and save the pen.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:30 pm
  • Doug’s had a couple of big hits, but I am officially missing Varitek, as bad a year as he was having.

    SF August 15, 2006, 7:32 pm
  • mirabelli should have drawn the walk. The second strike he swung at was a bad pitch. he should not have been fooled by that.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:33 pm
  • Bonderman ‘forced’ to throw 14 pitches that inning.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:34 pm
  • Casey singles to center to lead off for the Tigers.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:37 pm
  • Monroe GIDP to clear the bases.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:38 pm
  • Infante grounds out. Schill with 23 pitches. Another 8 pitch inning.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:39 pm
  • Sox seem to be swinging at some pitches that are WAY off the plate. Gonzo just hacked at an offspeed pitch that was maybe 16 inches outside.

    SF August 15, 2006, 7:42 pm
  • AGon K’s to lead off.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:42 pm
  • Gonzo earning his nickname back. The whiff makes him 3 for his last 31, according to Remy. Bathroom Break is BACK!

    SF August 15, 2006, 7:43 pm
  • Gonzo earning his nickname back. The whiff makes him 3 for his last 31, according to Remy. Bathroom Break is BACK!

    SF August 15, 2006, 7:43 pm
  • I know SF….does it look like they are pushing to hard? I am gamecasting.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:43 pm
  • Did I mention that I hate Coco in the leadoff spot?

    SF August 15, 2006, 7:43 pm
  • Crisp is doing so bad they took his photo off of gamecast, he gets the grayed photo box.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:44 pm
  • Coco? Homerun?

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:45 pm
  • Coco homers. F*ck me. I hate blogging. All it does is make me look stupid.
    On the other hand, Coco didn’t get on base, literally speaking. ;-)

    SF August 15, 2006, 7:45 pm
  • LOL…

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:46 pm
  • Papi K’s. Just seems like he has not done anything in about a week. I know I am probably wrong, but I definately missing his production right now.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:49 pm
  • Schill get Granderson to fly out to left.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:52 pm
  • Hay how about that leadoff hitter of our >happy face< still should be a 7 hole player

    Brian August 15, 2006, 7:52 pm
  • Polanco singles to center.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:54 pm
  • Curt nibbling against Young here.

    SF August 15, 2006, 7:54 pm
  • Now, is one of those innings where Curt gives one right back….I sure hope not…

    Brian August 15, 2006, 7:55 pm
  • Young singles to center, Polanco advances to third, crap, crap, crap.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:57 pm
  • Yeah, I think this is one of those innings

    Brian August 15, 2006, 7:57 pm
  • Curt looks like he changed his pitching style this inning.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:58 pm
  • Ordonez lines out to short.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 7:59 pm
  • living on the edge…

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:00 pm
  • Guillen bunts out, Schill escapes the jam.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:01 pm
  • Yeah, I’d have to say he changed something drastically… He went from just under 10 pitches an inning for three innings and used 17 to wriggle out of that one

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:03 pm
  • Manny just missed that one…

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:06 pm
  • The Sox O needs to get something going. I just do not see Schill being able to pitch a complete game 1-0 shutout.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:10 pm
  • Ortiz just missed one earlier in the game to right/center. Is the wind blowing in from that side tonight?

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:11 pm
  • did you see the stat that said WMP has the second highest OPS percentage of all major leaguers over since Trot went down?

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:11 pm
  • No I hadn’t. I did see an article claiming WMP should start when Trot gets back based off of stats.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:12 pm
  • Bondo-man has just enough stuff on his pitches that we have had several warning track shots

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:13 pm
  • A lot of Schill’s pitches tonight have been upper strike zone. It does not look like he has thrown a low splitter yet.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:15 pm
  • Honestly, I believe Wily Mo is the future at a great price too.

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:15 pm
  • I agree, especially if he gets the at bats. He could be another Ortiz who takes off and start smashing the ball all over.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:16 pm
  • Too true Rob, too true

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:18 pm
  • Schill picks Monroe off of 1st!! The guy is trying to do it all tonight.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:18 pm
  • YEAHH Curt

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:19 pm
  • Wanna hear something funny…
    I saw on Gameday that Curt had a couple of pick-off attempts I was just thinking to myself “C’mon Curt just concentrate on the batter…”
    Oh, he picked him off!!! Way to go Curt!!

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:22 pm
  • AGon grounds out on the 1st pitch…..damn….work the pitch count. Bonderman at 69 pitches.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:23 pm
  • B’more goes up one on the Spankees, I don’t expect that to last for long.

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:24 pm
  • Please O’s….just play one good series this year.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:24 pm
  • Damn that was a hasty bottom half for us…

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:25 pm
  • Lead off double, crap.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:28 pm
  • double crap is right

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:29 pm
  • C’mon Curt! Mr. Big Stage pitcher, it doesn’t get any bigger than right now

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:31 pm
  • I can’t watch… too nerve racking

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:35 pm
  • Nice play by Curt to end the inning!

    SF August 15, 2006, 8:37 pm
  • Please god let him get an out… please
    YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSS
    How HUGE is that?????

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:37 pm
  • we gotta score some friggen RUNS

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:38 pm
  • I just walked back in. Curt is pitching huge tonight. I hope that some of the starters are sitting in the dugout or bullpen watching how you recover from a mistake pitch and not give up the game.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:39 pm
  • Damn Crisp. The home a few innings back is old. Do something for me now.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:41 pm
  • How do you swing at a pitch way low and then get called out on a pitch high in the zone right where you just fouled one off???

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:42 pm
  • I am unsure how he did that. Seems like Coco falls asleep in the batters box.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:43 pm
  • I’d have to say that not pitching to Papi makes no sense there

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:43 pm
  • Especially the way Papi has been the last few games.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:44 pm
  • unless you get Manny out right away… Like that…

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:44 pm
  • Damn Manny….work the count.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:44 pm
  • I just am puzzled by our hitters at times…they had gotten this guys pitch count way up and now he has only a handful more than Curt

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:46 pm
  • I suddenly look up to see that Curt has given up 7… count them… 7 hits

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:48 pm
  • make that 8 hits

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:50 pm
  • Curt is now struggling. Does Tito see this? I am not sure.

    SF August 15, 2006, 8:50 pm
  • This is where Curt usually runs into trouble. And Casey.. I’m going to the corner store to get more wine. Fokker.

    birdmanofvt August 15, 2006, 8:52 pm
  • Tito is of the perptually half FULL mindset …..and thats even when the F**King glass is motherF**King empty

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:52 pm
  • Damn…this sucks. Curt has pitched a good game and Tito may have mismanaged it away.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:53 pm
  • Curt bombs out, at the worst time. 2-1 Tigers after Curt is left in despite two terrible innings in a row. Nobody out, still, and nothing doing with the hook. Nobody even up.
    This is a case where pitch counts are deceiving. Schill’s PC wasn’t high against KC when he blew out, nor is it high tonight. But it sure seems like 80 pitches is his new 100, or 110. Why can I see this but not a major league manager?

    SF August 15, 2006, 8:53 pm
  • I mean, how is nobody even warming up?

    SF August 15, 2006, 8:54 pm
  • The O’s move ahead 2-0

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:56 pm
  • The real SAD part is Curt has really BATTLED tonight… and he deserves better but WHERE is our offense, is this POS Bonderman really pitching lights out or is our offense just nasty right now? …and not all of a sudden either

    Brian August 15, 2006, 8:58 pm
  • Tito should have been ready, Curt ran into some trouble last inning and maybe the little hairs on top of Tito’s head should have been standing up.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:58 pm
  • Curt turns around and strikes out the side.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 8:59 pm
  • Curt stems the flow
    a bit late to close the barn door buddy

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:00 pm
  • O’s up 3-0 now.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 9:00 pm
  • Bonderman is pitching very well. The Sox aren’t exactly being patient, but there’s always a little push/pull when the hurler is lights out, and Bonderman is darn tough tonight.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:02 pm
  • Bonderman isn’t a POS by any stretch of the imagination… He’s a damn good pitcher, for one, our own offensive ineptitude aside…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:02 pm
  • Suddenly Curt has 98 pitches and probably will finish with more than Bondo-boy

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:02 pm
  • If the scores in NY and Boston stands, this may go down as a massive missed opportunity, and another reverse-momentum builder.
    Youk strikes out to start the 7th.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:03 pm
  • The way the bullpen has performed lately, would you really have wanted Tito to pull Curt there?

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:03 pm
  • Bonderman’s got a .237 BAA this season. And he gets Youk swinging…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:03 pm
  • Cmon B’more up 3-0 now

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:03 pm
  • I’ll take a 2-1 game at this point, specially since curt struck out the side, and he’s feeling confident and competitive. It could be much worse.

    birdmanofvt August 15, 2006, 9:04 pm
  • We need you Willie….go deep.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 9:04 pm
  • God damn IT we SUCK

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:05 pm
  • No, I definitely didn’t want Tito to pull Curt. But he didn’t have anyone warming, in the 7th inning, after Curt struggled through the 6th and began the 7th with great difficulty. I find that odd, at best.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:05 pm
  • except Wily Mo Pena

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:05 pm
  • WMP with the huge power. End of the bat, away pitch…

    Anonymous August 15, 2006, 9:05 pm
  • Wily Mo!

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:06 pm
  • Come on, Dougie. Come on. 2-0 count.
    And here comes Leyland out to talk to JB. Now THERE’S a manager paying attention, thinking about what’s in his pitcher’s head. It may not do anything, but I like that from Leyland.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:07 pm
  • Mirabelli robbed by Polanco on a bloop. Tough break for Doug, on the other hand he made terrible contact on a good pitch and Bonderman would have deserved better. The Sox fail again in the clutch. Big surprise.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:08 pm
  • Ahhh geez Mirabelli

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:08 pm
  • Leyland has learned from the bad years in Pittsburgh. You would have thought Tito would have his spiral notebook of bad crap from Philly.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 9:08 pm
  • *sigh* Stranded… Only way we’re tying this game is by homer… Bonderman’s been too good, and we’ve been too impatient, to get back to back hits or a rally started…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:09 pm
  • Good Timah Timlin…or BAD Timah Timlin that is the question

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:10 pm
  • Remember back when Jim Leyland was the top candidate for the Sox’ job? I think it went to Jimy Williams instead after Leyland backed off his interest in it…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:10 pm
  • Here comes Timlin.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 9:10 pm
  • grrrr…. yanks have two men on and no outs….

    rootbeerfloat August 15, 2006, 9:10 pm
  • I think Francona smartly has started giving Timlin more days off between appearances. Seems to have helped a bit. Of course I should wait to see how he does here before I say that…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:11 pm
  • Bonderman could finish this game out the way the Sox are waving their bats around.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:12 pm
  • Curt went 7 innings, gave up just two runs. Can’t ask for any more than that from your ace stopper…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:13 pm
  • Timlin is not inspiring a lot of confidence these days.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:13 pm
  • Yankees have bases loaded, 0 out, ARod up.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:14 pm
  • Why is the comment verification on full-time, SF? I haven’t posted yet without it telling me to punch in the code from its barely legible box…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:15 pm
  • It’s always on for me, Paul, particularly when you comment in rapid succession.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:16 pm
  • ARod singles in 2 runs. He must be a real Yankee.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:16 pm
  • Ok, TIME FOR RUNS, FELLAS!!!

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:17 pm
  • Now THATS the Timah I know and love!!!

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:17 pm
  • 10-pitch, 1-2-3 inning from Timlin. That’s two fantastic outings in a row…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:17 pm
  • None of us should be surprised by A) the Sox crapping the bed again or B) the Yankees possibly beating the Orioles. Let’s not get all crazy or anything – these are very predictable results.
    This weekend is really going to suck, I fear.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:18 pm
  • Nice inning. Too bad we can’t get this kind of pitching when we can actually score runs.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:18 pm
  • Heh. It’s usually only on when I post in quick succession too, as you say. But my first comment tonight it made me do it, and it’s made me do it all the time, regardless of how long I wait… Used to not do that.

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:19 pm
  • only one run for the Yanks and finally an out…bases loaded one out for the Spankees

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:19 pm
  • Yanks scored only 1 run on GayRod’s single. Sorry.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:20 pm
  • “I Rodriguez at second base”
    What the crap??

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:20 pm
  • CMON JAVY!!!! ….you suck…

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:21 pm
  • Geez, Lopez down on three pitches, now Crisp trying to bunt his way on (read: show of desperation)

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:21 pm
  • It is seriously conceivable that the Yankees might go into Boston with a need to only take one game to still maintain a healthy three game loss column lead.
    Really, if the Sox lose tonight and the Yankees come back, and tomorrow the Sox get swept, it could be that the Yankees have a six game loss column lead. That would mean that anything short of a sweep would do nothing for the Sox. Winning the series 3-2 would mean just about nothing.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:22 pm
  • It’s true, SF. Too true.

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:23 pm
  • Crisp gets on.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 9:23 pm
  • COCO!!!… my new hero???

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:23 pm
  • The Sox seem bent on inflicting maximum misery on us fans this August.
    Fingers crossed. Seems like pre-2004.

    Hudson August 15, 2006, 9:23 pm
  • Baltimore escapes! Still 3-1.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:24 pm
  • Bonderman over 100 pitches. Now’s the time to hit him if we’re gonna hit him…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:24 pm
  • Wow groundout, no DP, thank God… Do they pitch to Papi?

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:25 pm
  • Bonderman comes out with Papi strolling to the plate. Well done by JB – he really pitched a nice game.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:25 pm
  • Crisp advances to 2nd as Loretta swings at the 1st pitch.
    That is like 5th time tonight one of the Sox has taken a hack at the first pitch.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 9:25 pm
  • Detroit’s defense reminds me of the way the Sox were playing earlier this year.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:26 pm
  • B’more survives!!! gave up only the single run

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:26 pm
  • Question of the moment:
    “Is there such thing as clutch hitting?”

    Hudson August 15, 2006, 9:26 pm
  • It’d be nice to be reminded that the answer is yes right about now…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:27 pm
  • Paul: the comment protection is, as far as I can tell, automatic. I can’t shut it off – it’s there to stop comment spamming.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:27 pm
  • Ledezma in to face Papi…come one big man.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 9:27 pm
  • Friday’s DH features Johnson and Lester. Can you imagine how drunk the afternoon crowd will be if the Sox go in having gotten swept by Detroit and losing the opener to the Yanks? They might be 7 back at that point, the season shot to pieces.
    The bleachers could be, shall we say, marinated?

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:29 pm
  • Was that sentence I just posted english?
    Papi: the man. I feel bad for Bonderman, but not THAT bad.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:30 pm
  • PAPIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Rob August 15, 2006, 9:30 pm
  • Answer:
    Yes, yes there is such a thing.

    Hudson August 15, 2006, 9:30 pm
  • PAPI!!! It’s not a homer, but I’ll take the tie! :-D

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:31 pm
  • the answer to the Clutch hitting question is YES there is such a thing.
    And he is ours

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:31 pm
  • CLUTCH! There you go, Paul.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:31 pm
  • Close enough SF

    Rob August 15, 2006, 9:31 pm
  • Rodney in to face Manny.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 9:32 pm
  • While he is known for his walk-off home runs, Ortiz is equally amazing with his clutch singles. Think: ALCS, 2004.

    Hudson August 15, 2006, 9:32 pm
  • What’s the math on that one? Bring in the lefty to face Papi, or walk Papi and let Bonderman face Manny at 100+ pitches, or bring in a righty, walk Papi to face Manny, or bring in the lefty to face Manny?

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:32 pm
  • Ortiz just keeps racking up those MVP votes…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:32 pm
  • Now the key question is it Manny’s AB to turn on one?

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:33 pm
  • Sean Casey says to Papi: “Your jock must way four tons. I can’t carry that jock”.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:33 pm
  • opportune hit from el guapo humongo papster. lets see if mannifesto can manifest righteously. i think curt kept it close enough. maybe paps will do a prolonged showing…

    birdmanofvt August 15, 2006, 9:33 pm
  • Particularly after chasing a pitch 12 miles out of the zone a couple pitches before, I had despaired of another piece of Papi magic.

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:34 pm
  • Christ, that’s “weigh”. My brain is gone tonight.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:34 pm
  • birdman with the very ee cummings-y post!

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:35 pm
  • Yeah, I understand, SF, about the comment verification. I’ve just never had it on every single post before. Annoying everytime I want to just put “PAPI!!!” or something, I have to peer at the gray rectangle and decipher what random letter-number sequence I must hit, even if I haven’t posted in five minutes…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:36 pm
  • Well, a tie is good.
    Now, TAVAREZ TIME!!!!! (cow bells, whistles, airhorns all blow simultaneously, women dance in the streets, basically an all-night party starts)
    Kidding, there.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:36 pm
  • The verification thing seems to affect my posting when I try to do multiple posts in a 1 minute span.
    Not sure if that has affected anyone else that way.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 9:37 pm
  • Seems like it comes up if you try to post more than once within a minute. I don’t have five minute lag issues with the password verification.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:37 pm
  • No dice from Manny, who seems to fail in these types of situations a lot. It might be just because we expect so much from him, that the failures stand out in my mind, but still, perception is my reality… ;-)

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:37 pm
  • the answer to the Manny question is a resounding NO. Manny suddenly gone cold at the plate

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:37 pm
  • Yeah, that’s how it usually affects me… Multiple posts in a short span. But tonight, it’s hitting EVERY post, which is odd — and aggravating.

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:38 pm
  • Red Sox: 168 and counting, Yanks: 7.
    At least we’re winning the game threads, if not much else lately

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:39 pm
  • Not sure I like having Timlin out for a second inning. Though he did only throw 10 in the eighth.

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:40 pm
  • Remy said Paps may not be available tonight either. I hope MDC is warming.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:40 pm
  • I agree Paul – not sure I like Timlin out again. Seems, uh, greedy. Shocker.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:41 pm
  • Crap. Had him 0-2, then walked him. That raises a flag in my mind. Does it in Terry’s? Unlikely.

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:41 pm
  • As of late, Timmah makes me nervous unless he has a bow and arrow and he is saving me from a boar.

    birdmanofvt August 15, 2006, 9:41 pm
  • Absolutely no movement in the Sox’ pen. None.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:42 pm
  • Bases loaded one out for the O’s

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:42 pm
  • And Miguel Tejada coming up…

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:43 pm
  • Joe Cast reported that Paps was warming up last inning.

    birdmanofvt August 15, 2006, 9:43 pm
  • But of course it’s the O’s so they don’t score…

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:45 pm
  • One down as Rodriguez flies out after failing at two bunt attempts.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:45 pm
  • One down…

    Rob August 15, 2006, 9:45 pm
  • ok just got back to my computer,… what was the logic behind hitting Lopez for Gonzo? not like it was an offensive upgrade, actually might have been a downgrade.

    TJ August 15, 2006, 9:46 pm
  • Bullpen silent.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:46 pm
  • Damn Timlin…..

    Rob August 15, 2006, 9:47 pm
  • I don’t care if Mike Timlin gives up a grand slam a day for the rest of his career. I can’t not love the guy for what he’s done the last three years for the Sox. How can you ask anything more from an 8th-inning guy?

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:47 pm
  • Hit and run works perfectly after Timlin falls behind. If Papelbon was, in fact, warming, how do you not use him in the ninth, at home, no save opportunity?
    Delcarmen only warming NOW. What the f*ck is Tito on w/r/t pitching?

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:47 pm
  • I’m just so sick of our pitchers giving games away…

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:47 pm
  • Geez. 1st and 3rd. What is it they say about walking the leadoff hitter? Oh yeah, DON’T!

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:48 pm
  • Gonzo’s beens truggling. Lopez has actually hit pretty well the last couple games. I can see it…
    Mike, that wasn’t an invitation to load the bases though…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:48 pm
  • Brutal. Thanks, Terry. Once again, the players fail, but only after they are put in a position where failure is much more likely than it should be.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:50 pm
  • Am I getting GameCasted? What’s going on?

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:51 pm
  • I’m not sure WMP’s butchery on that play made any difference. the runner probably would have scored anyway. Not that that is any consolation.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:51 pm
  • I happen to think Mike Timlin is a great asset to the Sox but whatever happened to him to cause him to go on the DL earlier this year has now made him a gamble, like the rest of our pitchers including Paps since the all star break

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:52 pm
  • Johnny f’ing rocks!! Nice dinger.

    bloodyank78 August 15, 2006, 9:52 pm
  • Wrong thread, sorry.

    bloodyank78 August 15, 2006, 9:53 pm
  • Ohh yeah wheels comin off for the Boo Birds of B’more tied at three now

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:53 pm
  • On that play, Pena dropped the ball on what should have been the second out. Though the runner at third was tagging, and Pena would have had to make a spectacular throw, off balance, running toward the Sox dugout, to nail the tagging runner at home. The Sox would have been behind by the same one run margin, in all likelihood.
    Why the hell is Timlin out there throwing about 35 pitches, is what I want to know. My seething anger at Francona is starting to grow again, and all this after I had come to his defense numerous times.

    SF August 15, 2006, 9:53 pm
  • Yankee troll.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:54 pm
  • Yeah, BY “wrong thread”… Suuuuure.
    Post-DL Timlin appears to be reliable every third day for one inning. Theat Terry Francona doesn’t know this or does but ignores it is once again a reason to be baffled/outraged/saddedned/take-your-pick…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:56 pm
  • WHAT THE F**K gezz Youk take a pitch there OKAY……>sigh<

    Brian August 15, 2006, 9:58 pm
  • Honest, wrong thread.

    bloodyank78 August 15, 2006, 9:59 pm
  • Todd Jones is NOT a good pitcher. Are we really gonna let him act like a decent closer two games in a row??

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 9:59 pm
  • I’ll tell you what happened to Timlin: WBC.

    birdmanofvt August 15, 2006, 9:59 pm
  • In an attempt to stick up for Tito, maybe he just doesn’t have any confidence in anyone else in that spot. Then again, maybe not.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 9:59 pm
  • Todd Jones is a closer with basically a 5.00 ERA. Say goodbye to the Tigers come playoff time, unless Leyland slots Zumaya in there. I say no way this team does anything with a closer like Jones in tight playoff series’.

    SF August 15, 2006, 10:00 pm
  • WALK please

    Brian August 15, 2006, 10:00 pm
  • ahhh F**K

    Brian August 15, 2006, 10:01 pm
  • All rests on WM

    Rob August 15, 2006, 10:01 pm
  • Wily Mo, down 0-2. What a surprise.

    SF August 15, 2006, 10:02 pm
  • Yanks now up 4-3.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 10:02 pm
  • WM strikes out…Yanks go up 4-3
    I am off to play in traffic.

    Rob August 15, 2006, 10:03 pm
  • I’m so glad that Tito saved Paps for… NOTHING! FREAKIN’ NOTHING!
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    grrrr
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    Uh, let’s go, Orioles.

    Hudson August 15, 2006, 10:03 pm
  • Last pitch looked like a ball, but what’re you gonna do? Getting harder and harder to find ways that this team could make the playoffs with all the holes it has. Today, the hole in Francona’s head was most evident…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 10:04 pm
  • This season reminds me of some of those seasons back in the ’70s. Hand around, look good all year, then total crap at the end. I am really not looking foward to this weekend.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 10:05 pm
  • Ned Martin used to quote Shakespeare:
    “Oh, Gertrude, when sorrows come they come not as single soldiers but in batallions.”
    Mercy.

    I'm Bill McNeal August 15, 2006, 10:05 pm
  • Season over. Sorry I have to say that, but it’s true – nothing’s changed since last week. Accuse me of bailing out, but it’s just reality setting in – the team is strong but not top tier. The #1 and #2 starters both can’t get wins on the way into the biggest series of the year with the Yankees, the bullpen continues to suck ass, and Terry Francona, whether excusably or not, shows no ability to manage the pitching with any degree of prescience or proactivity. The Sox just don’t have the squad this year.
    What a massive fucking letdown.

    SF August 15, 2006, 10:06 pm
  • Don’t forget the holes in their bats, Paul.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 10:06 pm
  • Delcarmen would have been fine in the ninth, if Papelbon wasn’t available. A second inning from Timlin was risky, and we all knew it…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 10:07 pm
  • We want Jacoby Ellsbury!
    We want Jacoby Ellsbury!
    We want Jacoby Ellsbury!

    I'm Bill McNeal August 15, 2006, 10:08 pm
  • Definitely, Paul. No one said anything, but we were probably all thinking that.

    Tom sf August 15, 2006, 10:08 pm
  • Well, Tom, the ninth inning aside, the Sox were facing a good pitcher with good stuff. I’m OK with only scoreing two runs. Not OK with the manager not managing like he wants to keep the other team froms coring…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 10:09 pm
  • Actually, Tom, I did say something…

    SF August 15, 2006, 10:10 pm
  • Actually, Tom, I did say something…

    SF August 15, 2006, 10:10 pm
  • I said something, Tom. I said, “Not sure I like having Timlin out for a second inning.” SF agreed. Timlin proceeded to give up three straight hits and allow the winning run to score, WMP’s gaffe aside.

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 10:10 pm
  • And that winning run would have scored, IMO, even if Pena makes the catch. So the gaffe is basically irrelevant.
    If the Sox leave this weekend 5 or 6 back, it’s time to begin seriously considering the September callups a week early, though the club won’t make any moves to suppress service time. Move Loretta in a waiver deal if anyone wants him, bring up Pedroia, start stretching Papelbon out with the thoughts of converting him to a starter, see if Nixon clears waivers, etc. And that’s not about bailing on a team I love, it’s about thinking longer-term than just this season, about fresh blood and staying near the top perennially, getting some guys their cup of coffee so next year isn’t a shock to their system. It might make for a difficult, but enlightening, final month.

    SF August 15, 2006, 10:15 pm
  • Paul, that post-mortem is all you. I have no interest…

    SF August 15, 2006, 10:15 pm
  • I like looking at the half-full glass. I mean, when you lose 19-8 in Game 3 of the ALCS and you’re down three games to none, you’re not exactly reserving your World Series tickets. There were a million reasons the Sox weren’t going to win Games 4-7 (No Schilling, erratic Pedro, etc). They might have been considered a great ut not top-tier team.
    But yeah, it’s hard to find any reasons to be optimistic now. Schilling is still Schilling, but Beckett ain’t Pedro (yet), and Beckett’s the best we got (beyond hoping for a good Wells start) until Wakefiled returns. We’ve got young kids all over, which I love, but they’re all learning, and they’re having all their growing pains at once. The lineup is great, but our second-worst hitter is batting No. 1, our top on-base guy is buried, our third slugger is buried even deeper, our catching tandem… well, it’s not Berryhill.Rowland, at least.
    Just very hard to be positive.

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 10:16 pm
  • Yuck, lol. All right. I’ll see what I can do…

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 10:17 pm
  • Feel free to clip some of my more recent comments. I am happy to defend myself against those who want to call me a serial pessimist.

    SF August 15, 2006, 10:20 pm
  • I know this is not a good time, but those of you Sox fans in the beginning of the season that said Coco would be better were on crack. Johnny w/the RBI triple in the 8th following his 2 run go ahead shot in the 7th. The guy already has more homers this season than all of last. Go in this site’s archives, you’ll find guys who argued Coco would be better, this season even.

    bloodyank78 August 15, 2006, 10:20 pm
  • If any you Sox fans want comic relief check out the nasty pimp’stache Giambi is trying to grow. It’s freaking horrible.

    bloodyank78 August 15, 2006, 10:24 pm
  • Here’s the thing: why do we HAVE TO BE POSITIVE? I’ve been positive quite a lot this year, I mean, I PICKED THE SOX TO WIN THE SERIES! But circumstances have changed, we’ve seen a lot more of players that we hadn’t seen yet, we know more about the competition around the league, we know exactly how flawed some of our personnel and management is. Why shouldn’t we be allowed to revise our thoughts, to be honest about the situation, to admit that we might have been wrong to be so positive? I am really kind of tired of the idea that since I don’t think all is hunky-dory I am somehow a terrible naysayer. Why shouldn’t we be discussing how the Sox can improve for next year, how they might approach retooling, how they might fix some of the glaring deficiencies that we can now see more clearly?
    I see no crime, no abandonment of my franchise, in wanting to figure out how this team can get better, in how it can avoid some of the problems we are seeing manifested in real time.

    SF August 15, 2006, 10:24 pm
  • Coco is not better, BY. Not this year by a long shot. But much of the discussion was about whether or not Coco was a better plan. And that was and still is very defensible. Clearly he’s not the better player right now, by any stretch. But don’t oversimplify what the discussions were about here, that’s not really fair to either side of the debate. Many of us SFs acknowledged that Damon was a hell of a player, and was going to be a hell of an asset for the Yankees, myself included.
    It’s like the Pedro discussion, in many ways. Would the Sox be better off with a 5 year, 65M weakening Pedro? Last year there were plenty of people complaining about his walking, about the Sox not doing enough. But now, with Pedro missing 12 starts and injured, it looks more and more like the front office was wise. Trying to force someone to eat crow 5 months into a four year contract isn’t really all that wise, however fun it might be.

    SF August 15, 2006, 10:30 pm
  • BY, thanks for rubbing salt in the wound.
    Remember, the decision to let Damon walk was based not on this year or next year, but the third and fourth years of the contract, when you’ll be cursing him like we’re cursing Covelli right now.

    I'm Bill McNeal August 15, 2006, 10:31 pm
  • Is Giambi’s pimpstache the result of HGH?

    I'm Bill McNeal August 15, 2006, 10:33 pm
  • I agree w/you SF. In the 2008 season Coco is going to be hitting his stride where as we might be seeing Damon in steep declines. I just remember certain posters on this site that were boasting Coco as the superior CF this season.

    bloodyank78 August 15, 2006, 10:35 pm
  • Postmortem is up. Pictures being worth 1,000 words and all that.

    Paul SF August 15, 2006, 10:36 pm
  • I have no idea Bill, but it’s nasty. It looks like something an overly pubescent 14 year old would be growing, all patchy and shit.

    bloodyank78 August 15, 2006, 10:37 pm
  • Okay, there are three answers to this.
    First, the mood swings of the Sox fans are mystifying. SF, you can talk about Coco and the long term plan, but he’s not that young — 26 1/2, not 21, with 4 1/2 years in the major leagues. But a few months ago, with many on this site, Coco would be better than Damon, Beckett would be an immediate ace, and the Yankees would suck. Now it’s the Sox who suck, we hear. Wow.
    Second, even the best teams don’t win the pennant every year. You can look it up. But you’ve got some really good players, and they’re not that easy to find. You really want to throw Loretta overboard? Why not hit play Pedroia at short, IF he can play in the major leagues?
    Third, every team goes through slumps, including the best Yankee teams of the last ten years. Every team! Win five in Fenway and it’s a whole new season.
    Fourth, even if you don’t, so what? Life is more fun if you’re positive. Baseball’s only a game, and you’re not even on the team. You can’t enjoy the Sox if they don’t beat the Yankees? Why not? They’ve had a lot of good moments, and you’ve got Papi. Baseball isn’t only about winning. If it were, there would only be one happy fan base every year.

    halffullYF August 15, 2006, 11:39 pm
  • Four,four answers: mood swings, can’t win ’em all, slumps, life’s more fun, there’s always next year — five, five answers.

    halffullYF August 15, 2006, 11:41 pm
  • six, six — I seem to remember that not only was Coco going to be better than JD this year, but that Beckett had shown in the World Series that he was going to an ace, a Cy Young winner AND a Yankee killer.
    A few months ago, the Yankees were scorned. Now the Sox are scorned. I don’t get it. Red Sox fan Roger Angell writes very well about enjoying the game for itself. Some of my best friends are Cubby fans.

    halffullYF August 15, 2006, 11:52 pm
  • 26 is young, HF. Hate to break the news to you. Is Jonathan Papelbon young?
    As far as “positivity” is concerned, I AM positive about the franchise, just not about the prospects for this season. And I love watching the game, as much as it sometimes frustrates. Finishing second again is not going to keep me from enjoying baseball, or speculating about how the Sox can get better. I don’t author this site because I don’t enjoy the game. Can we stop with the BS that if a fan thinks his team is flawed he somehow doesn’t like baseball or isn’t enthralled by the game? That’s a false accusation.
    And as far as “throwing anyone overboard”, that’s not the point, nor what I am doing. I am not ascribing blame to any player, so don’t make it out as if there is any scapegoating here. Loretta was slotted in as a stopgap, not a long-term solution. He’s played well, and I have no beef with him. But if the Sox are really far behind (and that was the scenario in which I suggested retooling) then why SHOULDN’T the Sox get some of their younger players serious major league experience? Why shouldn’t they try to get value for players who will not be around long-term? Why shouldn’t they try to improve their team?

    SF August 16, 2006, 7:48 am

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