By popular demand, discuss the start of it all right here.
If Matt Clement isn’t pitching then I don’t want any part of this thread.
Yay! It begins! (Sort of.)
It’s one out, no one on, top one. Jeter steps in. The first pitch is a borderline strike on the outside corner; DJ leaned but didn’t go. The next pitch up and in at the wrists; Jeter twists and falls back out of the way. It’s 1-1. The next pitch is a breaking pitch tailing. Jeter swings inside out and goes the other way to right center. The throw comes in slow. Jeter is face-first in at second.
Captain, my Captain.
Oops. What? Did I cross-post already?
Let’s Play Ball.
My laady thinks I’m losing it, co-workers think I was drinking today, I have Kobe beef burgers and truffled tater tots on the menu…
just to do another version of the same joke.
Kobe beef and truffled taters? Dang, Lockland. All-Star kitchen. You should go for TopChef.
I gotta leave work right now, but I’ll be watching some of this later.
Damn you, you thread-polluting Yankee fans! :)
could you fed-ex your meal to me, Lockland? At least the left-overs.
oooooh Joe.. I missed your voice!
Great half inning form the sound of it! GO SOX!
The funny part is that I got the ground Kobe from a Yankee fan friend at cost, he’s got serious meat connections. The truffled tater tots couldn’t be easier, veggie oil, tater tots, truffle oil, asiago cheese, salt and pepper. Deep fry the tots, toss with grated asiago cheese, salt, pepper and the truffle oil, serve. My trick is to actually put a bit of truffle oil in the fry oil. People love them. I server the Kobe burgers on butter grilled focaccia bread, slice of vine ripe tomato, with just a slice of sharp Vermont cheddar.
Good to hear the Remdawg again. Damn, I missed baseball.
OK.. how many teams keep selling out SPRING TRAINING games?
…mmmm… pre-season sox taters pre-seasoned and post-seasoned and served with cheddared cow. arrrghghhhhh……
It’s almost enough for me to change my hat. Almost.
Lockland – I am about to sear some prime aged steak with a side of truffled asparagus and a glass of Mendocino Syrah for the Mrs. and me. I think I’d prefer the tater tots over the asparagus, but the veggies cut the guilt of the steak…
Alas, no NESN for me.
i’m tivo-d. i’ll be catching up soon.
I know this steak doesn’t exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After nine years, you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss.
ag: Do not try to be guilty when you eat the steak; that’s impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.
sf: What truth?
ag: There is no guilt.
sf: There is no guilt?
ag: Then you will see, it is not the guilt that eats, it is only yourself.
Whoops, no Mendocino Syrah, instead, McLaren Vale Shiraz. Yummy.
WHAT THE F*CK TITO!?!?
Sorry, I lost my mind for a moment. I’m not even following the game.
All of a sudden, SF starts off a great Frasier script.
Damn you and damn your fine wine knowledge, Toastmaster!
this vegetarian will keep his mouth. the bloods on your hands.
Who said I have knowledge? I can read a label, though!
(and no, I don’t have the game either… crap.)
insert “shut”. oh the irony.
sf rod: funny!
you can pawn your quote >reading skills< unquote off all you want, SF. Truth told, you broadcast your labels. I'm just pissed because I'm 2000+ miles away and I want some of that vino.
Our boys just chased a pitcher from a Spring Training game in the middle of an inning. Joe points out that rarely happens. BOOYA!
Woohoo! Way to go, Ellsbury. Pile it on, boys.
Damn, tj’s got the game. I’m out. I have to figure out why NESN isn’t coming up on the tube. Later to you all, gentleman. (and you wine-hoarding label-reader SF).
RKO feed on mlb.com
lugo’s using pedro’s old big red bat. ells steals second.
-peneiro did not impress. new arm angle or not.
-donelly looked real good. every pitch was in the zone.
-lugo is gonna make me miss a-gonz in the field.
-youk looked fat.
-tavarez give me butterflys in a spring training game.
-lowells bat is slow again.
damnit tavarez gives up a three run bomb.
Yikes…. looks like Tavarez is back.
sf rod, your more negative than me.
WHat about Jacoby, D-Murph and Pedroia? They alllll looked good. Schill did well too
i feel confident having Pedroia as an everyday player, I wouldnt be bothered him batting second either.
Unfortunatly for Murphy he wont ever be an everyday player in Boston, I really hope he gets traded so he can play everyday somewhere (deal for Helton or Otsuka (sp) would be nice)
In other news, Curt Schilling said he has a new changeup, which he worked out on the poor souls at Medfield High School. Seriously.
this is for the mayors cup. i just expect guy’s to give it their all.
with all the young guy’s in the game right now, it looks like a medfield high game.
I totally forgot about JC Romero…
This game has certainly got me on the edge of my seat. 4-4 into the ninth. zzzzzzzz
Dammit. I had to go to a f*cking poetry reading for a class, and I get back in time to see Hernandez give up a double. That Ochoa guy has a rocket in right, though.
ok lets get a walk off win
Holy hell. Ochoa should be our 5th outfielder. Moss and Murphy should be somewhere where they’ll get ab’s anyway, and he looks like a fine defensive replacement. Am I forgetting anyone?
Hinske has a bat.
So what happens if the Mayors Cup ends in a 2-2-1 deadlock this year?
At any rate, I got to see Papi get an RBI (yay), Pedroia look good, Lugo look bad but redeem himself, and a guy with a “97” on his back and the same name as the sports editor for my college newspaper (Chris Smith) back when I was a mere copy editor pitch pretty darn well. Ahh, spring training.
Just wish my attempts at taping the middle hadn’t ended up with fuzz… Woulda liked to see Ellsbury pick up his ribbies.
“So what happens if the Mayors Cup ends in a 2-2-1 deadlock this year?”
uh, paul, can i get back to you on that?…
I read somewhere that Ellsbury got timed in the 40 at 4.2 and change.
Only one word for that: DAMN. I was a sprinter in high school and never was quite that fast.
Kid sure looked impressive last night.
A few observations from last nights Sox exhibition opener…Schilling looked pretty good in his two innings and gave a mid-game interview loaded with his opinions, one of which was he expects to win the World Series…after Schill’s stint, Tito trotted out a bunch of the bullpen candidates. They mostly looked OK, other than Tavarez, who threw his 2nd pitch of the inning behind the head of the Twin’s hitter, and then proceeded to give up 2 hard basehits, followed by a 3 run opposite field bomb by Joe Mauer. Pineiro gave up a couple of sharp hits but would have got out of the inning unscored on except for Lugo’s throwing error… NESN announcers mentioned Pedroia came into camp 23 lbs. lighter this year, and he is noticeably slimmer…Remy was promoing DMat’s Sox debut Friday on NESN all night, but only once mentioned it was against Boston College. I don’t know anything about BC’s team. Do they have some tough sticks to give DMat a test? Heh. The Sox have a split squad game against Toronto earlier in the day. It would have been much more interesting to see him against the Jay’s lineup, but oh well.
Meanwhile, the Yanks are to open today, also against the Twins. Wang is supposed to open, followed by Hughes (can’t wait to see that, having never seen him on a mound), and Ohlendorf, one of the guys they acquired in the RJ deal. Of course, we all know these early games are pretty meaningless and nothing to get excited about one way or another, but after a long winter and endless speculation, it’s nice to see the process get started.
I dunno, WE, I’m pretty excited about Pedroia’s 1.167 OPS ;-)
Even last year when Pedroia struggled some after being called up, I noticed he could hit the ball, and he had a lot of line drive outs last year, it seemed to me. I think he was perhaps swinging for the fences a bit much last year. Look for him to cut down on his swing a bit, and be more of a contact hitter this year. And if he is that much lighter as mentioned earlier, it can only help his range. I happen to think he’s going to be a good 2nd basemen for the Sox for years to come.
Pedroia’s strange because he’s always had that huge uppercut swing and been a contact hitter at the same time. I wouldn’t expect him to change anything at all.
There’s no reason to think he shouldn’t match or better Loretta in every way.
If Coco bounces back, I’m looking forward to seeing him and Pedroia in the bottom of the lineup, there should be some good hit and run opportunities.
“I wouldn’t expect him to change anything at all.”
Well, in an interview I saw on NESN, in which Tito was discussing Pedroia, he mentioned Dustin swinging too hard at at balls last year, resulting in that .191 average, and expected him to make some adjustments this year, resulting in better contact.
An uppercut swing is something you see in a lot of power hitters, and results in more flyballs. Pedroia is not a power hitter and if he is over 20 pounds lighter this year, as was said last night on NESN, one would expect the little power he did have to diminish more. To coin an old phrase, Pedroia has “warning track power.” The Sox want him hitting line drives and the ball on the ground, not lofting flyballs to the outfield.
I know all of that. Swinging too hard is how he hurt his shoulder last year, and probably why he didn’t have much success in his call-up.
The 20 pounds he shed was purely dead weight, I doubt he’s lost any power on his swing. If anything, he might have a little more life behind the bat from being in better shape.
Past all that, having him not swing so hard he’s hurting himself isn’t “making changes”. It’s just concentrating more. I’m willing to bet money he sticks with that uppercut swing, it’s what’s gotten him this far, and he’s never had issues with it in the past. Hitting singles and doubles with it won’t be a problem.
Hmmmm. I’m trying to remember the last time a player lost a significant amount of weight and it resulted in an increase in power. Let me know if you think of any.
Wouldn’t one say if a player was going to make a conscious effort to not swing so hard that would constitute a “change”? Your starting to split hairs here. And btw, in that interview, Tito also made reference to a more level swing. Pedroia may stick to the uppercut hack if heels more comfortable with it. I’m only commenting on what I heard a couple of times on NESN.
Anyway, whatever. We’ll see how Pedroia’s season plays out, and if any “changes” are evident in his approach at the plate.
If you go from 200lbs of fat to 175-180lbs of muscle, you’re not going to lose power. Maybe some momentum, but bat speed should also increase.
Look, the point I’m trying to make about the swing is that you said to “expect changes”.
Guys don’t immediately change their mechanics when making the major leagues as a starter for the first time. That’s a recipe for disaster. I’m almost willing to bet money he swings exactly the same way he has in the minors for the past few years.
Gee, I didn’t realize Dustin was such a chunky butt. Heh.
The changes I mentioned in my original post were “cut down on his swing a little bit and be more of a contact hitter”. It’s not like he’s revamping his whole approach at the plate from scratch. And like I said earlier, those were Tito’s thoughts on NESN that I was commenting on. But then wtf does Francona know?
I actually tried to be complimentary of Pedroia in my 2nd post at 10:19 a.m. but all that got me was you splitting hairs about whether cutting down on his swing was an actual change, or just focusing more. If I spend time debating something, I would prefer there was an actual point of contention rather than foggy interpretations of what changes means.
This conversation is well into the “beating the dead horse stage”, and as I could REALLY give a fuck less how Pedroia swings at the goddamn ball this year, other than to post an offhand comment about what I had heard on NESN here this morning, that’s the last of it for me.
FWIW, and I’ve mentioned this before, Pedroia with a little bit of luck actually would have had very nice numbers in September. His BABIP was horrendous, well beyond the deviation you’d expect from even slightly bad luck.
i predict “luck” will be the mvp this year
Whatever – you said you expect him to be “more of a contact hitter.” Again, that’s always what he’s been. He’s never had issues hitting singles, doubles, or with striking out. He doesn’t swing and miss with that huge swing of his.
I don’t know why you’re getting so condesending and defensive. All I said was that I doubt he changes anything, and I’m sticking to it. Last year after his callup he was going after balls like Sheffield instead of like Manny, but that’s got nothing to do with the actual motion of the swing. I’m willing to bet a lot that’s what Francona was talking about.
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