And They’re Off!: Sox/Twins Spring Training Gamer #1

By popular demand, discuss the start of it all right here.

62 comments… add one
  • If Matt Clement isn’t pitching then I don’t want any part of this thread.

    Nick-YF February 28, 2007, 6:43 pm
  • Yay! It begins! (Sort of.)

    Devine February 28, 2007, 6:45 pm
  • It’s one out, no one on, top one. Jeter steps in. The first pitch is a borderline strike on the outside corner; DJ leaned but didn’t go. The next pitch up and in at the wrists; Jeter twists and falls back out of the way. It’s 1-1. The next pitch is a breaking pitch tailing. Jeter swings inside out and goes the other way to right center. The throw comes in slow. Jeter is face-first in at second.
    Captain, my Captain.
    Oops. What? Did I cross-post already?
    GAME ON.
    Let’s Play Ball.

    attackgerbil February 28, 2007, 6:52 pm
  • Melky!!!

    Nick-YF February 28, 2007, 6:54 pm
  • My laady thinks I’m losing it, co-workers think I was drinking today, I have Kobe beef burgers and truffled tater tots on the menu…
    It’s on.
    Sort of…

    LocklandSF February 28, 2007, 6:55 pm
  • just to do another version of the same joke.

    Nick-YF February 28, 2007, 6:55 pm
  • Kobe beef and truffled taters? Dang, Lockland. All-Star kitchen. You should go for TopChef.

    attackgerbil February 28, 2007, 6:59 pm
  • I gotta leave work right now, but I’ll be watching some of this later.
    Damn you, you thread-polluting Yankee fans! :)

    Devine February 28, 2007, 7:00 pm
  • could you fed-ex your meal to me, Lockland? At least the left-overs.

    Nick-YF February 28, 2007, 7:01 pm
  • oooooh Joe.. I missed your voice!
    Great half inning form the sound of it! GO SOX!

    agastald February 28, 2007, 7:11 pm
  • The funny part is that I got the ground Kobe from a Yankee fan friend at cost, he’s got serious meat connections. The truffled tater tots couldn’t be easier, veggie oil, tater tots, truffle oil, asiago cheese, salt and pepper. Deep fry the tots, toss with grated asiago cheese, salt, pepper and the truffle oil, serve. My trick is to actually put a bit of truffle oil in the fry oil. People love them. I server the Kobe burgers on butter grilled focaccia bread, slice of vine ripe tomato, with just a slice of sharp Vermont cheddar.

    LocklandSF February 28, 2007, 7:18 pm
  • Good to hear the Remdawg again. Damn, I missed baseball.

    ToddSF February 28, 2007, 7:20 pm
  • OK.. how many teams keep selling out SPRING TRAINING games?

    agastald February 28, 2007, 7:20 pm
  • …mmmm… pre-season sox taters pre-seasoned and post-seasoned and served with cheddared cow. arrrghghhhhh……
    It’s almost enough for me to change my hat. Almost.

    attackgerbil February 28, 2007, 7:25 pm
  • Lockland – I am about to sear some prime aged steak with a side of truffled asparagus and a glass of Mendocino Syrah for the Mrs. and me. I think I’d prefer the tater tots over the asparagus, but the veggies cut the guilt of the steak…
    Alas, no NESN for me.

    SF February 28, 2007, 7:43 pm
  • i’m tivo-d. i’ll be catching up soon.

    sf rod February 28, 2007, 7:55 pm
  • gerbil plagiarism:
    I know this steak doesn’t exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After nine years, you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss.
    ag: Do not try to be guilty when you eat the steak; that’s impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.
    sf: What truth?
    ag: There is no guilt.
    sf: There is no guilt?
    ag: Then you will see, it is not the guilt that eats, it is only yourself.
    mmmm.. steak.

    attackgerbil February 28, 2007, 7:58 pm
  • Whoops, no Mendocino Syrah, instead, McLaren Vale Shiraz. Yummy.

    SF February 28, 2007, 8:02 pm
    Sorry, I lost my mind for a moment. I’m not even following the game.

    SF February 28, 2007, 8:03 pm
  • All of a sudden, SF starts off a great Frasier script.
    Damn you and damn your fine wine knowledge, Toastmaster!

    attackgerbil February 28, 2007, 8:04 pm
  • this vegetarian will keep his mouth. the bloods on your hands.

    sf rod February 28, 2007, 8:05 pm
  • Who said I have knowledge? I can read a label, though!

    SF February 28, 2007, 8:05 pm
  • (and no, I don’t have the game either… crap.)

    attackgerbil February 28, 2007, 8:05 pm
  • insert “shut”. oh the irony.

    sf rod February 28, 2007, 8:06 pm
  • sf rod: funny!

    attackgerbil February 28, 2007, 8:08 pm

    TJ Sox Fan February 28, 2007, 8:09 pm
  • you can pawn your quote >reading skills< unquote off all you want, SF. Truth told, you broadcast your labels. I'm just pissed because I'm 2000+ miles away and I want some of that vino.

    attackgerbil February 28, 2007, 8:09 pm
  • Our boys just chased a pitcher from a Spring Training game in the middle of an inning. Joe points out that rarely happens. BOOYA!

    agastald February 28, 2007, 8:10 pm
  • Woohoo! Way to go, Ellsbury. Pile it on, boys.

    Devine February 28, 2007, 8:10 pm
  • Damn, tj’s got the game. I’m out. I have to figure out why NESN isn’t coming up on the tube. Later to you all, gentleman. (and you wine-hoarding label-reader SF).

    attackgerbil February 28, 2007, 8:11 pm
  • RKO feed on

    TJ Sox Fan February 28, 2007, 8:13 pm
  • lugo’s using pedro’s old big red bat. ells steals second.

    sf rod February 28, 2007, 8:14 pm
  • thus far:
    -peneiro did not impress. new arm angle or not.
    -donelly looked real good. every pitch was in the zone.
    -lugo is gonna make me miss a-gonz in the field.
    -youk looked fat.
    -tavarez give me butterflys in a spring training game.
    -lowells bat is slow again.
    damnit tavarez gives up a three run bomb.

    sf rod February 28, 2007, 8:27 pm
  • Yikes…. looks like Tavarez is back.

    ToddSF February 28, 2007, 8:27 pm
  • sf rod, your more negative than me.
    WHat about Jacoby, D-Murph and Pedroia? They alllll looked good. Schill did well too

    agastald February 28, 2007, 8:37 pm
  • i feel confident having Pedroia as an everyday player, I wouldnt be bothered him batting second either.
    Unfortunatly for Murphy he wont ever be an everyday player in Boston, I really hope he gets traded so he can play everyday somewhere (deal for Helton or Otsuka (sp) would be nice)

    TJ Sox Fan February 28, 2007, 8:39 pm
  • In other news, Curt Schilling said he has a new changeup, which he worked out on the poor souls at Medfield High School. Seriously.

    SF February 28, 2007, 8:39 pm
  • this is for the mayors cup. i just expect guy’s to give it their all.

    sf rod February 28, 2007, 8:39 pm
  • with all the young guy’s in the game right now, it looks like a medfield high game.

    sf rod February 28, 2007, 8:45 pm
  • I totally forgot about JC Romero…

    Brad February 28, 2007, 8:53 pm
  • This game has certainly got me on the edge of my seat. 4-4 into the ninth. zzzzzzzz

    Whatever February 28, 2007, 9:29 pm
  • Dammit. I had to go to a f*cking poetry reading for a class, and I get back in time to see Hernandez give up a double. That Ochoa guy has a rocket in right, though.

    desturbd1 February 28, 2007, 9:31 pm
  • ok lets get a walk off win

    Anonymous February 28, 2007, 9:35 pm
  • Holy hell. Ochoa should be our 5th outfielder. Moss and Murphy should be somewhere where they’ll get ab’s anyway, and he looks like a fine defensive replacement. Am I forgetting anyone?

    desturbd1 February 28, 2007, 9:37 pm
  • Hinske…worthless pickup.

    desturbd1 February 28, 2007, 9:42 pm
  • Hinske has a bat.

    Anonymous February 28, 2007, 9:43 pm
  • So what happens if the Mayors Cup ends in a 2-2-1 deadlock this year?
    At any rate, I got to see Papi get an RBI (yay), Pedroia look good, Lugo look bad but redeem himself, and a guy with a “97” on his back and the same name as the sports editor for my college newspaper (Chris Smith) back when I was a mere copy editor pitch pretty darn well. Ahh, spring training.
    Just wish my attempts at taping the middle hadn’t ended up with fuzz… Woulda liked to see Ellsbury pick up his ribbies.

    Paul SF February 28, 2007, 11:02 pm
  • “So what happens if the Mayors Cup ends in a 2-2-1 deadlock this year?”
    uh, paul, can i get back to you on that?…

    dc March 1, 2007, 9:19 am
  • I read somewhere that Ellsbury got timed in the 40 at 4.2 and change.
    Only one word for that: DAMN. I was a sprinter in high school and never was quite that fast.
    Kid sure looked impressive last night.

    Steve March 1, 2007, 9:24 am
  • A few observations from last nights Sox exhibition opener…Schilling looked pretty good in his two innings and gave a mid-game interview loaded with his opinions, one of which was he expects to win the World Series…after Schill’s stint, Tito trotted out a bunch of the bullpen candidates. They mostly looked OK, other than Tavarez, who threw his 2nd pitch of the inning behind the head of the Twin’s hitter, and then proceeded to give up 2 hard basehits, followed by a 3 run opposite field bomb by Joe Mauer. Pineiro gave up a couple of sharp hits but would have got out of the inning unscored on except for Lugo’s throwing error… NESN announcers mentioned Pedroia came into camp 23 lbs. lighter this year, and he is noticeably slimmer…Remy was promoing DMat’s Sox debut Friday on NESN all night, but only once mentioned it was against Boston College. I don’t know anything about BC’s team. Do they have some tough sticks to give DMat a test? Heh. The Sox have a split squad game against Toronto earlier in the day. It would have been much more interesting to see him against the Jay’s lineup, but oh well.
    Meanwhile, the Yanks are to open today, also against the Twins. Wang is supposed to open, followed by Hughes (can’t wait to see that, having never seen him on a mound), and Ohlendorf, one of the guys they acquired in the RJ deal. Of course, we all know these early games are pretty meaningless and nothing to get excited about one way or another, but after a long winter and endless speculation, it’s nice to see the process get started.

    Whatever March 1, 2007, 9:26 am
  • I dunno, WE, I’m pretty excited about Pedroia’s 1.167 OPS ;-)

    Paul SF March 1, 2007, 9:57 am
  • Even last year when Pedroia struggled some after being called up, I noticed he could hit the ball, and he had a lot of line drive outs last year, it seemed to me. I think he was perhaps swinging for the fences a bit much last year. Look for him to cut down on his swing a bit, and be more of a contact hitter this year. And if he is that much lighter as mentioned earlier, it can only help his range. I happen to think he’s going to be a good 2nd basemen for the Sox for years to come.

    Whatever March 1, 2007, 10:19 am
  • Pedroia’s strange because he’s always had that huge uppercut swing and been a contact hitter at the same time. I wouldn’t expect him to change anything at all.
    There’s no reason to think he shouldn’t match or better Loretta in every way.
    If Coco bounces back, I’m looking forward to seeing him and Pedroia in the bottom of the lineup, there should be some good hit and run opportunities.

    Steve March 1, 2007, 11:03 am
  • “I wouldn’t expect him to change anything at all.”
    Well, in an interview I saw on NESN, in which Tito was discussing Pedroia, he mentioned Dustin swinging too hard at at balls last year, resulting in that .191 average, and expected him to make some adjustments this year, resulting in better contact.

    Whatever March 1, 2007, 11:17 am
  • An uppercut swing is something you see in a lot of power hitters, and results in more flyballs. Pedroia is not a power hitter and if he is over 20 pounds lighter this year, as was said last night on NESN, one would expect the little power he did have to diminish more. To coin an old phrase, Pedroia has “warning track power.” The Sox want him hitting line drives and the ball on the ground, not lofting flyballs to the outfield.

    Whatever March 1, 2007, 11:34 am
  • I know all of that. Swinging too hard is how he hurt his shoulder last year, and probably why he didn’t have much success in his call-up.
    The 20 pounds he shed was purely dead weight, I doubt he’s lost any power on his swing. If anything, he might have a little more life behind the bat from being in better shape.
    Past all that, having him not swing so hard he’s hurting himself isn’t “making changes”. It’s just concentrating more. I’m willing to bet money he sticks with that uppercut swing, it’s what’s gotten him this far, and he’s never had issues with it in the past. Hitting singles and doubles with it won’t be a problem.

    Steve March 1, 2007, 11:46 am
  • Hmmmm. I’m trying to remember the last time a player lost a significant amount of weight and it resulted in an increase in power. Let me know if you think of any.
    Wouldn’t one say if a player was going to make a conscious effort to not swing so hard that would constitute a “change”? Your starting to split hairs here. And btw, in that interview, Tito also made reference to a more level swing. Pedroia may stick to the uppercut hack if heels more comfortable with it. I’m only commenting on what I heard a couple of times on NESN.
    Anyway, whatever. We’ll see how Pedroia’s season plays out, and if any “changes” are evident in his approach at the plate.

    Whatever March 1, 2007, 12:17 pm
  • If you go from 200lbs of fat to 175-180lbs of muscle, you’re not going to lose power. Maybe some momentum, but bat speed should also increase.
    Look, the point I’m trying to make about the swing is that you said to “expect changes”.
    Guys don’t immediately change their mechanics when making the major leagues as a starter for the first time. That’s a recipe for disaster. I’m almost willing to bet money he swings exactly the same way he has in the minors for the past few years.

    Steve March 1, 2007, 4:48 pm
  • Gee, I didn’t realize Dustin was such a chunky butt. Heh.
    The changes I mentioned in my original post were “cut down on his swing a little bit and be more of a contact hitter”. It’s not like he’s revamping his whole approach at the plate from scratch. And like I said earlier, those were Tito’s thoughts on NESN that I was commenting on. But then wtf does Francona know?
    I actually tried to be complimentary of Pedroia in my 2nd post at 10:19 a.m. but all that got me was you splitting hairs about whether cutting down on his swing was an actual change, or just focusing more. If I spend time debating something, I would prefer there was an actual point of contention rather than foggy interpretations of what changes means.
    This conversation is well into the “beating the dead horse stage”, and as I could REALLY give a fuck less how Pedroia swings at the goddamn ball this year, other than to post an offhand comment about what I had heard on NESN here this morning, that’s the last of it for me.

    Whatever March 1, 2007, 6:06 pm
  • FWIW, and I’ve mentioned this before, Pedroia with a little bit of luck actually would have had very nice numbers in September. His BABIP was horrendous, well beyond the deviation you’d expect from even slightly bad luck.

    Paul SF March 1, 2007, 8:24 pm
  • i predict “luck” will be the mvp this year

    dc March 1, 2007, 9:01 pm
  • Whatever – you said you expect him to be “more of a contact hitter.” Again, that’s always what he’s been. He’s never had issues hitting singles, doubles, or with striking out. He doesn’t swing and miss with that huge swing of his.
    I don’t know why you’re getting so condesending and defensive. All I said was that I doubt he changes anything, and I’m sticking to it. Last year after his callup he was going after balls like Sheffield instead of like Manny, but that’s got nothing to do with the actual motion of the swing. I’m willing to bet a lot that’s what Francona was talking about.

    Steve March 1, 2007, 11:05 pm

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