As the Yankee World Turns….

The troops are streaming into Tampa. Not much of interest to report, save that the Yanks have re-signed lefty relief workhorse Ron Villone. What else? The Bernie “situation” remains unresolved—our guess is it remains that way for some time, lest there be an injury. Best anecdote of the young season comes from Joe Torre (via Peter Abraham):

After the season ended last fall, he attended a soccer game to watch his 11-year-old daughter. One of the players on the other team – and now keep in mind it was an 11-year-old girl – came up to Torre and asked him why he hit Alex Rodriguez No. 8 in Game 4 against Detroit.

Tough town.

17 comments… add one
  • If the Cubs can’t sign Zambrano, how about the Yankees trading for him ( providing he agrees to a long term contract with the Yankees ). Why not trade A-Rod, Humberto Sanchez & another minor leaguer like Clippard for Zambrano & Aramis Ramirez. Call me crazy, but I really believe this can be possible if Zambrano doesn’t sign with the Cubs in the coming weeks. Someone get this message to Cashman. He might like the idea.

    Julio February 14, 2007, 10:55 pm
  • IMO, Torre hitting ARod 8th in that game was one of the most bone-headed things he’s ever done during his years as Yankee manager. I don’t care if ARod was 0-50, you don’t hit your best player 8th even when he’s struggling.
    I mean, we all know what a high maintenance, edgy guy who thinks too much Alex is anyway, so why the hell insult him and shake his confidence even further by doing that.
    I have no idea what Torre was thinking on that one.
    BTW, I hear Brian Cashman’s got a beef with Torre on overuse of guys in the pen. Speak of the devil, Ron Villone pitched great in the first half of the season till Torre ran him into the ground. And if I’m not mistaken, didn’t Proctor lead the league in appearances?
    I hope Torre takes note of Cashman’s concerns.

    Whatever February 14, 2007, 11:18 pm
  • Villone, Proctor, and more the last few seasons. I always kind of hated LaRussa’s super-micro-managing, but Torre’s slightly bad on this on the other end. I would’ve batted ARod 5th or 6th, but c’mon, 8th?

    Lar February 15, 2007, 12:22 am
  • Julio, replace Sanchez’s name with Hughes and you might have a deal. Hughes has the potential to be an ace. Z is one.

    tommy February 15, 2007, 1:24 am
  • I was surprised to see that Tanyon Sturtze is now a Brave. And is it smaller or bigger news that Dotel is a Royal now?

    john February 15, 2007, 9:50 am
  • Dotel was an interesting move, but I think the Yanks feel they have a pretty strong bullpen, which they do, and yet another big ego who wants to be the man wasn’t the answer, so they let him walk.

    Brad February 15, 2007, 9:58 am
  • and Sturtz is just awful, so no surprise there.

    Brad February 15, 2007, 9:59 am
  • Sturtze has been less “awful” than Timlin, but the Sox persist with Timlin because of what he’s done for them in the past. Sturtze had some great moments for us.

    john February 15, 2007, 10:12 am
  • I understand you’d like to argue about the awfulness of two aging relief pitchers, but the difference is that the Yanks could afford to let Sturtz walk, and the Red Sox couldn’t do the same. Besides, with Trot Nixon gone, Sturtz’s role on the team has really moved to Cleveland.
    On the whole, I agree with you, but when a nice big game is on the line, I’ll take my chances with Timlin getting the job done, not Sturtz. I don’t think that generates a lot of argument does it?

    Brad February 15, 2007, 10:16 am
  • Didn’t Sturtze have arm surgery? Is so, the question is, Will he ever relive his best days, or are those gone forever?
    There was a time when Joe relied on him heavily. He wasn’t here for Trot.

    john February 15, 2007, 10:27 am
  • 2004 WHIP: Sturtze: 1.397 Timlin: 1.231
    2004 ERA+: Strutze: 82 Timlin: 118
    2005 WHIP: Sturtze: 1.321 Timlin: 1.320 (close here)
    2005 ERA+ Sturtze: 94 Timlin: 197
    2006 WHIP: Sturtze: 2.156 Timlin: 1.469
    2006 ERA+: Sturtze: 58 Timlin: 106
    john, sure you didn’t mean to say “more” awful than Timlin rather than less?

    QuoSF February 15, 2007, 10:31 am
  • Very nice, Quo. It’s not even close.

    Paul SF February 15, 2007, 10:35 am
  • And to be fair, Paul, there were some spots that Sturtze came up big in. But…to say that Sturtze is the superior pitcher? Ridiculous.

    QuoSF February 15, 2007, 10:38 am
  • Easy guys, John’s statements are birthed of bias and fanfare, not stats. You have to argue on that level.

    Brad February 15, 2007, 10:52 am
  • Sturtz was never a good pitcher. I think he had one season where he was a passable middle reliever. I was very happy when he and Torre’s love affair finally ended.
    Timlin’s career is on a whole other level, although I can’t say that for his current effectiveness.

    Andrew February 15, 2007, 12:48 pm
  • Sturtze was never good with the Yankees, it just appeared as such because Joe had a love affair with him and relied on him like he was a star. This happens from time to time with Joe. Last year he fell in love with Villone and Proctor. I like Sturtze, but I always knew what he was. I can’t wait to debate games, rather then who’s better Timlin or Sturtze….

    Triskaidekaphobia February 15, 2007, 1:03 pm
  • Sorry Andrew, I missed your comments…my apologies for the similarity.

    Triskaidekaphobia February 15, 2007, 1:04 pm

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