At $456 Billion, Too Rich, Even for the Sox

The Boston Globe estimates that for the cost of the Iraq War, the Sox could sign Daisuke Matsuzaka to a 52,615 year contract. Gotta figure the Sox could win at least one more title in that time. Of course, he might still have to face Roger in the year 53,000….

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  • har har YF

    TJ May 10, 2007, 11:47 pm
  • Bad link.
    That’s a lot of scratch. You’ve got to think that for that kind of money the Yanks could prolong their current drought by another 2,736 years. (though my math might be a little off… 6 year drought = @ $1 billion. 6*456 = 2,736)

    Tyrel SF May 11, 2007, 12:14 am
  • WEAK. Come on now, you can do better than that. On a scale of 1-5, that instigation comes in at about 3rd Place.

    C Lo May 11, 2007, 8:14 am
  • That’s a lot of Fenway Franks…

    SF May 11, 2007, 8:45 am
  • 114,000,000,000 Fenway Franks to be exact.

    LocklandSF May 11, 2007, 8:59 am
  • For the trillion dollars Iraq is going to cost us, we could have set up a health care system that covers every American child, rebuilt New Orleans, or publicly financed several generations of Presidential elections to remove the influence of big money on the White House.
    But at least the Yankees are 7 games out!

    Hudson May 11, 2007, 9:06 am
  • Well , let’s hope this guys can turn it up a notch . If the Yankees starters don’t start dominating games well into the 7th or 8th inning from now on , the Red sox will win the AL east crown , dethroning the Yankees . Also , the Wild Card is going to be very hard to get , so do the Yankees miss playoffs??? Probably . Let’s look at it logically . The Red Sox are on an astounding pace to win 112 games .Say they win 102- 104 . That will leave the Yankees to win 87 – 89 games from the remaining 129 games left in the season . That is more than 40 games over .500 !!!You can forget about that division title unless the Sox cool off , which is unlikely if you see their rotation . . Now to the wild card . Indians lead the pack , Yanks are 4.5 back . In that mix you can find ChiSox , Minn. TWins , and the Oak. A’s . Other teams are looking to make an impact , with the Mariners and O’s in front of the Yankees as of now . To win this race , yanks must win between 78-84 of their remaining games , still 40 games above .500 the rest of the way .
    How are the Yankees going to acomplish the feat of winning this many games??? They simply won’t . Just look at it , man . You are counting on the bullpen to slam it shut in 60 – 65 games of those 80+/- games they need to win . If you have been watching the Yankees recently , you know it will take wishful thinking and a ton of luck for that to happen . This bullpen is giving up leads and turning winnable 1-2 run deficits in the late innings into disasters like its nobody’s business . So you end up asking your starting pitching to dominate games for more than 6 innings , something this group of guys isn’t capable of , not that Joe Torre would let them , and its not his fault . Dire scenario , right??? Rocket to the Rescue!!! Not really . 10-7 record , 3.27 ERa , and the yankees will be .500 or just above in his starts . So unless the Yankees start scoring 8 runs a game , it looks bleak for our bronx bombers .
    P.S. If the Red Sox win the east , Captain Jeets , who has four rings , and brings light into everyday of my life , will have the dubious distinction of being eliminated from the playoffs by the Red Sox and losing the East crown to them . That will speak bad of our team and tradition , so will someone make Jeter read this post , so he can encourage and lead his team into triumph , just like a Captain should do ,steering the ship into World Championship form . Derek Sanderson , I know you have the heart of a champion , instill it on you teamates . If you don’t do it , and the Yankees lose the East crown to the Sox , something really bad can happen to me . I may go crazy , depressional , bonkers , loco , or worse . Seriously . And so will you too , Jeets , I know so .

    arny YF May 11, 2007, 9:46 am
  • Sheesh, looks like arny’s already given up all hope.
    Listen: I have much faith in the ability of the Red Sox to choke up leads in the regular season. 1978 is a historic example, probably one of the biggest *overall* (note the asterisks, ALCS screechers) choke jobs in baseball history. In 2005 they coughed up the division lead 2 games before the season ended. In 2006 they lost in August, even without all those injuries that plagued them later on.
    Unless every single pitcher on that team is destined to have a career year, they are playing way, way, way over their heads. Now I dunno about all of you, but I still have faith in their ability to cough up division leagues like no other team. And for the Yankees to be the ones to take it. Shine on.

    Andrew May 11, 2007, 9:55 am
  • Also , with that amount of money , we could have a better education system and a whole lot of other things . Maybe the goverment is getting money out of this. Or maybe is just Bush delivering “FEE – DOM” to the taxpayers , who are financing the war . I’m from Puerto Rico , so I wouldn’t know muichj .You guys need to step up like the ‘Nam situation and just stop it . Protest , riot , I don’t know . Or just watch Yaknees games . Red Sox games never seem to appear professional , awe inspiring , or adequate . You never get the feeling you are watching a real team . Or that Fenway is a Major League ballpark . What a joke , just like the 26 to 6 , 1,000,000 to 9 or 10 hall of famers Yanks Sox rivalry .Who invented the rivalry ??? I don’t remember caring much for the Red Sox , we Yankess fans always used to laugh at their misery and the lame “Curse of the Bambino” excuse for not winning in nearly 90 years . Now that they can win another title in 07 , it will be two in 89 years . What a Dynasty . HEHEHEHEHE .
    GO YANKS .
    Try to win 27 , beacuse 26 is getting old and is a smaller number than 27 is . hahahaha.

    arny YF May 11, 2007, 9:57 am
  • Nice post Andrew . Still odds and probabilties give the Red Sox a way better shot at winning the division than the Yankees .

    arny YF May 11, 2007, 10:00 am
  • I fear YFs pessimism, this is some kind of double or triple reverse jinx with a side of gooch and I aint buying in to it.

    LocklandSF May 11, 2007, 10:03 am
  • Also, where the hell is the new guy’s post?

    LocklandSF May 11, 2007, 10:06 am
  • With that much money, we can brainwash everyone to want to grow up as YF’s, and also buy the MLB and start breaking knees if teams lose. Not the point though.
    I think Beckett is good, but not this good. I’m not Nick, butya. ;)
    I’m still optimistic, though the Sox are playing some great baseball right now too..

    Lar May 11, 2007, 10:23 am
  • Listen, I don’t expect Sox fans to get behind the Yankees attack on first place, but for Pete’s sake will Yankee fans lighten up just a little. This is a game. Sure I would love to see the Yankees make up that 7 game difference by next week, but let’s see what happens over the course of the FULL season. There is help on the way and no matter how much Rocket has aged he is better then anything that could have been had. Also if the bullpen continues to struggle expect some moves. Cashman has never been shy and after the Rocket deal don’t expect him to start now. Don’t lose track of what’s important here, enjoy the games. 14-2 was bound to happen considering they hadn’t beat us in 3 seasons!

    Triskaidekaphobia May 11, 2007, 10:42 am
  • How’ bout you give the Yankees credit in ’05 for playing a stellar final 25 games or so, Andrew? Sox certainly choked a bit (though when you end up in a numerical tie after beating your division rival 2 out of 3 in the final series, the magnitude of that choke seems debatable), but the Yankees really poured it on that last month, had an unbelievable, defeat-free week near the end and managed to beat Boston just often enough to take the division.
    I maintain caution on the Sox’ chances at this point. But it’s been (and hopefully continues to be) a great ride, and I plan to enjoy it even if the crash comes later.
    If the Sox played .500 baseball their next 30 games, their winning percentage would still be better than .600.

    Devine May 11, 2007, 10:59 am
  • So, when do the Padres start their annual “get Scott Linebrink” sweepstakes and when does Cashman send them some of those white-hot Trenton pitchers for him?

    Andrew May 11, 2007, 11:00 am
  • Anyone who bases current performances on past performances when many factors are altogether different or changed is relying more on hope than fact.
    Can the Red Sox be compared to the 1978 season? Sure, they were/are both from Boston, and nine players still take the field. Other than that, not so much.
    This Boston team is very, very good. This good? Probably not, but still very good. The “sure” demise of this team is about as “sure” as Roger Clemens being dominant.
    It’s a nice fall back instigator for Sox fans and Yankee fans alike, but in reality, it means very, very little to either of our current teams as constructed.
    Just ask the Braves, who alwasys said “it’s early” or “talk to us in August” or “how many divisions have we won in a row now”?
    In the scheme of things, what a team did in the past has absolutely nothing to do with what a team will do in the present or future, especially when all the parts are different.
    Why can’t we just admit that Boston has a very good team, and it’s going to be tough to catch and beat them? Just like I admit that NY has a very good lineup, but if Wang doesn’t step back outside of himself like last year, and Pettitte and Clemens don’t at least match Schilling and Beckett, it’s going to be a tough task to keep up.

    Brad May 11, 2007, 11:03 am
  • And, Lar: You’re absolutely wrong. Beckett is one hundred percent this good. It’s just taken some time to get through his head how good he really is. He has ALWAYS had the stuff, and now he’s combined it with the ability and confidence to use it. Hes clearly going to take his lumps, but I put him on the mound in game one every day of the week against anyone.
    But, since I clearly have a man-crush on the guy since he was in high school, my opinion may be skewed. But yes, he’s going to win a ton more than he’s going to lose.

    Brad May 11, 2007, 11:08 am
  • Heh, I always give the Yankees credit for good play, it’s just implied.
    They had an incredible September, while the Sox weren’t so bad either. Just as a frame of reference: the Sox were up by 5 games on the Yankees as late as August 13th that year.

    Andrew May 11, 2007, 11:16 am
  • I lived through 1978, and it’s still painful to think about. But grasping at 1978 is just grasping right now. First of all, the Sox held a far larger lead later in the season, so we’re not even there yet – this Sox margin is miniscule compared to that one. But the real issue I have is that comparing any season to an historic, all-time accomplishment (the Yankees’ comeback that year) is basically wishing for a massive anomaly. Further, implying that a massive anomaly is either possible or, more egregiously, going to happen because it’s happened before is simplistic. In other words, if the Sox make the playoffs, face the Yankees in the ALCS, and go down 3-0 in the series, I don’t think I’ll be hanging my hat on the fact that in 2004 the Sox came back to win. Yankees fans already pointing to what happened in ’78 is a sign of an oncoming desperation.

    SF May 11, 2007, 11:17 am
  • I’m with Brad on this, Beckett could always throw, but he’s starting to learn how to pitch and it’s showing.

    LocklandSF May 11, 2007, 11:18 am
  • “On pace to” doesn’t mean a whole lot. It’s looking at a line graph and assuming it goes straight as an arrow off the page.

    Doug May 11, 2007, 11:30 am
  • I don’t know if YFs are desperate or whatever, but it IS looking like the Sox have a very good team, and Yanks may be in too much of a hole to climb out of. Doesn’t mean Sox will win it all this year, obviously, but that’s beside the point. In all honesty and barring a Boston collapse, Wild Card seems like the more realistic bet. That’s not to say Yanks should give up on the division right now, but…
    That said, enough with the hand wringing and the hair pulling. Like Trisk says, it’s just a game. I realize that a team with a $200 million dollar payroll shouldn’t have “transition/rebuilding” years, but that’s what this year certainly seems like. So what? We should enjoy it for what it is and not turn it into some kind of greek tragedy. There’s a lot season still to go and a lot of cool things will happen. Even if the Yanks don’t make the playoffs, this YF isn’t jumping off a ledge. An off year is an OK tradeoff if we get to see emergence of new kids like Hughes (and DeSalvo?), who will get lots of good experience and contribute fulltime next year.

    yankeemonkey May 11, 2007, 11:45 am
  • “Yankees fans already pointing to what happened in ’78 is a sign of an oncoming desperation.”
    Through May 11, in ’05 and ’06 the sox’ record was 20-13. This year you’re 23-10. You seem to have quite a lot of confidence based on a 3 game difference…
    And for any desperate yank fans: we were 19-12 at this point last year, but 15-19 in ’05 7 games behind. Relax. It’s a long season, and things can change very quickly. No need to even consider wishing for that “massive anomaly” (yeesh) just yet!

    Andrews May 11, 2007, 11:46 am
  • ” In all honesty and barring a Boston collapse, Wild Card seems like the more realistic bet”
    Yes, the sox have what looks to be a very good team, but, it’s MAY 11. It’s much too to speculate like that. Baseball history proves that, again and again.

    Andrews May 11, 2007, 11:51 am
  • should read “much too early”

    Andrews May 11, 2007, 11:51 am
  • No need to even consider wishing for that “massive anomaly” (yeesh) just yet!
    EXACTLY my point, Andrews. My comment wasn’t to articulate supreme confidence in the Sox, but rather to point out that this season hasn’t approached ’78 in any way, record-wise and time-wise. So the idea of invoking that comeback would illustrate either a skewed sense of history or a sentiment that the Yankees have to make an absolutely improbable and near-historic comeback. I don’t think this is the case at all; it’s too early for that type of banter.

    SF May 11, 2007, 11:57 am
  • Other nits to pick with Andrew, along with the fact that it’s unfair to say the Sox choked when their second-half record in 2005 was better than their first-half record, and that they won the final series of the season. No telling what would have happened had Cleveland not actually choked and forced one-game playoffs for the East and Wild Card. I might as well say I know the Sox will win the East this year because in 1996, 1997 and 2004, they started slow and then rallied to finish just a couple games out of first. Now that they’re starting hot, they’re bound to win. Past performance in this case is simply not an indicator of future results.
    Like SF and Brad said, if YFs already bringing up something that occurred nearly 30 years ago as a reason for the Yankees to hope, hope has already been lost. Don’t worry, though, I think enough Sox fans are still wary of the Yankees to make up for it.

    Paul SF May 11, 2007, 11:57 am
  • I have never seen so many words used to say this.
    “Anything can happen.”

    LocklandSF May 11, 2007, 12:06 pm
  • An off year is an OK tradeoff if we get to see emergence of new kids like Hughes (and DeSalvo?), who will get lots of good experience and contribute fulltime next year.
    This is exactly what we were saying as SFs last year, YM. Of course, last year at this time, as Andrews notes, we were still feeling pretty good about our team. The lessons of 2006 scare me most than some fear about replicating 1978.
    But, Andrews, the Sox are three games better now at this time than in 2005 — which was three games more than separated our teams at the end of that season. So I think your point’s a bit misguided on that one. 2006, on the other hand…

    Paul SF May 11, 2007, 12:16 pm
  • “But, Andrews, the Sox are three games better now at this time than in 2005 — which was three games more than separated our teams at the end of that season. So I think your point’s a bit misguided on that one.”
    You lost me on this, Paul. Why is my point misguided?
    We were 7 games behind the 21-11 O’s on 5-11-05.

    Andrews May 11, 2007, 1:23 pm
  • I meant numbers-wise anyhow. I think he’s a 3.5 ERA pitcher (which is damn good in AL let alone AL East) and he obviously won’t be a 34-0 pitcher!
    I’ll admit I don’t think I watched him pitched this season at all, so numbers is all to go on..
    I would say that his WHIP (at 1.03) is insanely low, and quite below his career numbers, but then again, he’s 26, so this is prime time. And (probabilistically speaking) I’ll be shocked if he only ends up with 9 HR given up (which is the current projection) for the season!
    He’s good, and might even be damn good, but I need some a little more convincing before declaring him Santana!

    Lar May 11, 2007, 1:26 pm
  • This year the Sox team does look good though. I hope the Yanks take advantage of the schedule, and they’ve been slightly unlucky in 1-run games (cue the usual “1-run games are luck”), and very few teams are .700 teams the entire season (duh). But ya, it’s a long season.. and in the beginning of the season, Ortiz/Manny were slumping and they found ways to win games.. and now Ortiz/Manny aren’t slumping as much, they’ve been winning games by 5 everyday.. so I don’t know what other kind of slump they could be in!

    Lar May 11, 2007, 1:30 pm
  • Sorry, Andrews, didn’t realize you had responded. It seemed you were arguing the Sox had a similar record in 2005 yet didn’t win the division. But the Sox’ record then was three games worse after 33 games than it is now. If the Sox in 2005 had had the record they have today, they would have won the division by three games, so the point, at least in that particular instance, is moot.

    Paul SF May 11, 2007, 7:00 pm
  • “It seemed you were arguing the Sox had a similar record in 2005 yet didn’t win the division”
    Not what I was getting at – just trying to point out that all of this gloom and doom on the part of yf’s is caused by 3 more sox wins at this point vs the last 2 years. Given that there are 129 games left…

    Anonymous May 11, 2007, 7:14 pm
  • me.

    Andrews May 11, 2007, 7:15 pm
  • Also, Paul on this date in ’05, the O’s had a record of 22-11, and we were 7 games out at 16-19.

    Andrews May 11, 2007, 7:31 pm

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