Breaking: Posada to the DL, Surgery Possible

Tyler Kepner reports in the NYT that Jorge Posada was scratched this afternoon due to “a tear in his subscapularis muscle,” the same shoulder problem that has hampered him all season. A trip to the DL (a career first) and to Dr. James Andrews are in the offing. The Yanks have no backup to Jose Molina, having DFA’ed Chad Moeller.

Update: In case you’re wondering, the most logical short-term (!) solution in the Yankee system is probably Chris Stewart, who’s had a few cups of coffee in the bigs (with the ChiSox and the Rangers), and is currently hitting around .300/.400/.300 at AAA Scranton. (Expect the average and obp to drop.) In his ML debut he threw out Grady Sizemore on the pads twice, according to his bio.

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  • Yuck. Not much else to say about this.
    Ive felt that some of the younger pitchers struggles have been party due to Posada’s absence. This is a tremendous blow, I pray he is back soon.

    sam-yf April 27, 2008, 3:59 pm
  • Tremendous blow for both the Yankees and my fantasy teams. 3 teams, 3 leagues and in all three I own Posada.
    On a serious note, Molina is a very good defensive catcher the young pitchers and the rest of the staff will be fine. The problem comes on the offensive side where Molina is borderline awful. No team makes it a full season without injuries so we will just have to keep grinding.

    John - YF April 27, 2008, 4:09 pm
  • This is quite the blow.

    walein April 27, 2008, 6:30 pm
  • This is definitely going to hurt the young pitchers’ in the rotation and, to a lesser extent, Wang/Moose/Pettitte. I’ve always felt that Posada calls a great game behind the plate, so I’m pleased to see him go down with this injury. Sorry, YF’s.
    At least this news keeps me from jumping off a cliff after the Sox losing 5 in a row.

    Atheose April 27, 2008, 10:15 pm
  • Figures…Posada had Moose looking like a major league pitcher again and then…POOF…he was gone. Can’t wait to see the old, crappy Moose again tomorrow???

    krueg April 27, 2008, 10:39 pm
  • You are giving Jorge way too much credit and that’s coming from one of his biggest fans. Molina calls a very good game, he’s a veteran, the young guys will not suffer from this. The young guys have bigger issues than who is calling the game for them. MAINLY stop nibbling and attack the zone!!!

    John - YF April 27, 2008, 10:49 pm
  • I agree with John – Jorge’s bat will be missed, surely, as having a hitter like that at that position provides trmendous value, but Molina’s a veteran guy who’s a better defensive C and will call a good game.
    Any word on the length of the DL stint? I thought I read or hreard that the Yanks shared the MRI results w/ Andrews already, and that he would not recommend surgery. Hopefully it will not be too long…

    Mark (YF) April 28, 2008, 9:54 am
  • “…I’m pleased to see him go down with this injury”.
    I’ve always respected your opinion even when we’ve differed Atheose so reading the above really surprised me. I would love to see Manny hobbled by an 0-for-50 stretch, but I don’t think I could root for him to get or remain hurt.
    On the larger issue, I agree that Molina is strong and I think the Yankees lose almost nothing defensively – they may even gaine a bit there. Offensively and in terms of clubhouse leadership they lose a tremendous amount, even with Molina’s fairly good offensive production since he joined the Yankees.
    But just imagine if we had never acquired Molina and were having to dip into the minors to replace Jorge. Now that would be truly scary.
    On that point, the guy I probably feel the worst for is Francisco Cervelli – the Yankee minor league catcher who broke his wrist in the 9th inning collision at home plate vs. the Rays in spring training. He’s got to be burning up watching what would have been a big window for him to break into the majors get filled by others.

    IronHorse (yf) April 28, 2008, 10:19 am
  • Thanks IH. I’m glad you see my comment as just a tiny bit of schadenfreude, and recognize that I’m not trying to be a dick. I do not dislike Posada at all (he’s one of the few Yankees who I am neutral towards), but hope to see the Yankees struggle. Especially since the Sox were just swept by the Rays. The Rays!
    I lack knowledge of Molina, and didn’t know he was so good defensively. That’s definitely great news for the Yanks, whose offensive woes rest on Cano’s and Giambi’s shoulders, not Posada’s.
    And to a lesser extend ARod has underperformed: his .850 OPS is significantly lower than .966, his career average. Those guys (with the exception of maybe Giambi) will undoubtedly get hot though. And not just because Cano and ARod are on my fantasy team!

    Atheose April 28, 2008, 10:30 am
  • Whoops, I definitely wrote the beginning of that wrong IH. I meant to say that I hope you see it as a tiny bit of schadenfreude, and that I’m not trying to be a dick. Like I said I don’t dislike Posada, but hope to see the domino effect of the Yankees pitching rotation struggle even more.
    I would never ROOT for a player to get injured, but the Yankees will undoubtedly be worse off without him. After a crappy baseball weekend, that’s really the only silver lining I have. Again I was not trying to be a dick about his injury, and hope no one sees it as that. How many Yankees fans smiled with Varitek was injured in 2006, and the Red Sox rotation’s ERA almost doubled? I’m not trying to turn it into one of the “You guys are just as bad!” types of arguments that often plagues this site, so I’ll apologize for any insensitivity that I may have portrayed.

    Atheose April 28, 2008, 10:38 am
  • So to sum it all up, I would never root for a player to go down with an injury, but now that it has happened I can’t say that the prospect of a Posada-less Yankees team doesn’t make me smile a little bit.

    Atheose April 28, 2008, 10:49 am
  • Atheose – no worries. You have more of a track record here than I do and I know you aren’t a d*&k.
    And I guess in the end, there is not a huge difference between us. I mean, if drunken sailors threw a sack over David Ortiz’s head and sent him to an island off the coast of Sri Lanka for the months of September-November, I would be very happy. I’m not sure that is so different from taking some pleasure in Posada’s injury-based misfortune.

    IronHorse (yf) April 28, 2008, 10:55 am
  • Yeah, it’s not so much pleasure in Posada’s injury, just in his absence.

    Atheose April 28, 2008, 11:03 am
  • < >
    Well, there probably were some, although I wasn’t one of them – never like to see players get hurt. But what’s interesting is the larger notion that losing a catcher can dramatically affect the pitching. Frankly, I don’t buy into that at all. I think there probably is some difference between catrchers, but that that difference is very, very small from catcher to catcher.
    In fact, I specifically remember people pointing to ‘Tek’s injury in 2006 as an example for this, but also recall reading that the Red Sox ERA balooning that year had in fact begun about 2 weeks prior to him going on the DL, and simply continued after that. Varitek’s injury IIRC also coincided with Wakefield and Lester suffering season-enders – which forced the Sox to dip into their depth chart.

    Mark (YF) April 28, 2008, 11:26 am
  • I agree with Mark on this one. Tek’s injury hurt — but moreso from the perspective that Mirabelli was also hurt and it forced us to use the rotting corpse of Javy Lopez for the better part of a month, and all the steps down offensively and defensively that entailed.
    The Sox had a myriad of injuries and issues that August. I don’t think Tek’s was any more disastrous than, say, Manny Ramirez’s or as Mark notes Tim Wakefield’s.

    Paul SF April 28, 2008, 11:35 am
  • Can Barry Bonds catch?
    If surgery is in the cards, are the Yankees going to make any outside of the organization moves? Is Piazza still unsigned? Can Ellsbury steal second and third on one play off of him?

    DR April 28, 2008, 11:39 am
  • The whole Red Sox’s slide in 2006 began before all the injuries hit. During the “Massacre”, the only Sox regulars who were injured were Varitek and Nixon. Most of the cascade of injuries came after that series.

    AndrewYF April 28, 2008, 3:13 pm

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