Butcher’s Bill: Beane Bags Macha

Add Ken Macha to the list that includes Dusty Baker, Joe Girardi,
Felipe Alou, Frank Robinson, Joe Torre and Buck Showalter of potential 2007 TV commentators.  Billy Beane refused to blame Macha, and then turned around and did just that by saying, "But that disconnect was there and we needed to do something as soon as possible."

Macha had two years and two million left on his contract but Beane waited only two days after the A’s got swept by the Tigers in the ALCS to drop the axe.  The story reports Macha was already in hot water due to his relationships with the players prior to their ALCS exit.

Meanwhile, Lou’s a Cubbie

9 comments… add one
  • …easy for money-ball-boy beaner to put the blame on macha, rather than take the heat himself…all macha did was take a bunch of 2nd rate AA-er’s to the post season a few times, while beaner was, well counting the beans he was saving the ownership with his ill-conceived metrics…the mad scientist wasn’t the one taking this rag-tag bunch to the brink of post season greatness, macha was…good luck finding a replacement with his patience oakland…

    dc October 16, 2006, 9:57 pm
  • Moneyball got the Red Sox a championship in 2004 when all else had failed for 86 years, so I wouldn’t be so quick to discredit it. Of course, having the second-highest payroll in baseball helps too. Perhaps if Beane were able to keep any of his big-ticket players longer then five years, he could have a core to build around rather than an ever-changing array of roughly competent players.
    Anyway, I thought listening to Buck and McCarver were bad, but they’re heaven compared to that hideous and now-defunct pairing of Piniella and Lyons. Two idiots showing off their own idiocy…

    Paul SF October 16, 2006, 10:20 pm
  • …you’re right paul, it was probably a combination of money and moneyball that got the sox the ws in ’04, but you’ll see me say often, that spending money may be overrated…it gets a team in the race, but doesn’t seem to assure anyone of finishing first [ask the yanks]…i’ve been hard on sox fans on this site, but i have to admit that the ’04 team was put together just right…look at what some of those guys accomplished individually that year [mueller, millar, foulke, and others], and yet many of them are now gone, and somewhat forgotten…it’s still puzzling to me why that team was broken up…
    …i also agree that it would be interesting to see how the a’s would do if they could keep some of their higher value free agents, but that helps support the argument that macha has achieved with much less to work with than other managers, and deserves to keep his job…i don’t want to underestimate the issues some of his players may have with him, but they did make it this far…
    …and again, i agree…the announcers are awful…i can’t stand buck and mac, but the other guys are just as bad…

    dc October 16, 2006, 11:55 pm
  • The team was broken up, dc, because as you say, 04 hadd just the right mix, and that mix changed in ensuing years — mostly through age. Millar and Mueller statistically are shells of what they were in 2003/04, Pedro is breaking down faster than UN sanctions against North Korea. The ones who have stayed are dealing with injury problems — Foulke, Wakefield, etc. The Red Sox were lucky to make the playoffs in 2005 with the 2003/04 core mostly intact. It was just a matter of not letting sentimentality toward aging veterans (*cough* Berniewilliams *cough*) get in the way of trying to stay competitive.
    Geez, I ound like Theo Epstein’s right-hand man, but I agree with him 100 percent at least on the concept of what he’s tried to do since 2004, if not on the specific exectution…

    Paul SF October 17, 2006, 12:09 am
  • …all good points paul…lightning struck in ’04…if theo actually predicted that the al batting champ [mueller], and the personality of that team [millar] would subsequently have such forgettable years, then i’ve been way too hard on him…to be fair though, i’d also include other players [lowe, arroyo] in the discussion, and not just the ones whose performances have fallen off…but, hey don’t be so hard on bernie…he filled in admirably this year when half the yanks outfield was on the dl…sadly though, i’m afraid you’re right, it may be time to say goodbye…

    dc October 17, 2006, 12:45 am
  • I don’t think he was being hard on Bernie, he was being hard on Cashman/Torre/Stein. Bernie was quite the sub in the OF and at DH for the Yanks this year, and his even-keel temperament is probably very valued in that clubhouse. I think the point was that expecting Bernie to still be a starting CFer in 2005 was a mistake. His spot as an OF sub/DH this year was well done, a good move for both sides.
    As a side note, I was personally disappointed as a SF in Bernie with the thrown helmet incident this year. Minor, but seemed big since it was Bernie Williams who did it. One of the best examples of a class act in any major sport.

    Quo October 17, 2006, 12:49 am
  • …i was bummed about the helmet toss too…very unbernie-like…not sure what got into him, but it puts a spec of tarnish on what otherwise was one of the classiest careers in sports…sort of humanizes him i guess…

    dc October 17, 2006, 1:09 am
  • Just one thing:
    “Pedro is breaking down faster than UN sanctions against North Korea”
    That’s the best comment ever on YFvSF.

    Sam October 17, 2006, 9:14 am
  • “I ound like Theo Epstein’s right-hand man, but I agree with him 100 percent at least on the concept of what he’s tried to do since 2004”
    As a YF, I,agree. I especially liked ’06.

    Andrews October 17, 2006, 10:40 am

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