Case Of The Mondays

No. No, man. Shit, no, man. I believe you’d get your ass kicked sayin’ something like that, man.

Back to work after the holiday weekend, and who wants to be here? Anyone?

C.C. to the Brewers? For prospects? Wait, I think I must have screwed that up, cause it doesn’t read right. Let’s try it again.. C.C. to the Brewers? For prospects? Wow, Doug Melvin, I tip my hat. Mark Shapiro, I hope you at least got dinner and a movie before getting diddled and then walking the walk of shame. Who saw that coming? Anyone?

Damon goes on the DL for the first time in his career. With Johnny and Hideki out, it’s too bad there aren’t any lefty hitting left-fielders sitting idle right now. Don’t get me wrong; Gardner’s dink past Cora was a sweet, sweet thing, but Matsui and Damon were two of the best lefty hitters in the game, and now they’re unavailable. And what condition will they be in when they return? Yeah, too bad there aren’t any high OBP, power lefties sitting around somewhere, waiting for their phone to jingle, willing to play for league minimum because the industry has decided they are poison.

ARod was 5 for 14 with a dinger while striking out once in the last four games. So much for distraction.

Whomever thinks The Rivalry is dead needs an EKG and a defib pronto.


gerbil still doesn’t mind Tek playing in the ASG, and everyone thinks gerb is an idiot, including gerb. However, Moose should be there, but it seems his priorities are straight.

Joba got yet another no decision, and the Yankees won for the fifth time in his seven starts. Youk and he aren’t exchanging holiday greetings, I would guess.

gerbil will be getting in as much baseball as he can, until the forced layover caused by the worthless ASG.

Gotta go; need to finish my TPS report.

74 comments… add one
  • Anyone knocking this CC trade is going to look very silly when they realize what LaPorta can do. He’s Hafner 2.0 but he can play the OF. This time next year he will be and folks will be talking about Cleveland’s monster lineup.

    A YF July 7, 2008, 11:44 am
  • Gotta love the Office Space references.

    Atheose July 7, 2008, 11:49 am
  • I think the CC trade is good for both teams, given their current positions. The Brewers are going to lose Sheets at the end of this season, they’re within reach of the post-season, LaPorta was blocked by Fielder, so you might as well go for it. This is going for it. Sabathia is a #1. Sheets is as well. They’ll be very tough going forward. Plus, they get two picks after Sabathia leaves.
    The Indians have been dead in the water since the start of the season. Part of the reason for this has been the decline of Travis Hafner. They now have their replacement for his bat next season and beyond.

    Nick-YF July 7, 2008, 11:49 am
  • > This time next year
    Whadda catchphrase.
    For LaPorta’s sake, I hope he is more durable than Pronk. And I don’t need the CC trade to look silly.

    attackgerbil July 7, 2008, 11:50 am
  • AG,
    Your reference just made me realize that every time he is pitching, Papelbon is giving us all his “Oh face”…
    More seriously, I can’t recall now why Joba threw at Youkilis last year – was there something that Youk did (even if only perceived by Yanks as such) or was it out of the blue?
    I don’t want to get into whether he meant to throw at him or not and start that whole debate. We had that last year. For my part, Joba’s tutelage under Clemens last year led to direct Joba buzzing Youk so I will always believe it was very intentional, but again, I can’t remember if anything preceded the 2 head-high fastballs. Can anyone refresh my memory?

    IronHorse (yf) July 7, 2008, 11:50 am
  • Oh, and AG, how can you/we not give some serious props to Brett Gardner for having the game-winning RBIs in both of the last two games in his first NY-Boston series (though only one of them was of the annoyingly-titled-“walkf-off” variety)? The last two NYY rookies to have “alk-offs vs. Boston were Donnie Baseball and Jeter. Good company kid.

    IronHorse (yf) July 7, 2008, 11:53 am
  • I think Youkilis argued that one of the Yanks baserunners ran out of the line rather dramatically before the buzzing.

    Nick-YF July 7, 2008, 11:54 am
  • Wow – thems some serious typos in that thar post of mine.

    IronHorse (yf) July 7, 2008, 11:54 am
  • If my memory serves me right, the sox had plunked countless Yankees that series and it was a little old fashioned baseball…

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 11:56 am
  • I don’t think anything preceded them IH, that’s what was so unusual about it. Youk didn’t even think anything of the first pitch, it was only until he threw the very next pitch at the same spot that he got pissed off.
    Hell, it might have even been accidental on Joba’s part, though when someone throws back-to-back identical 98mph fastballs to the exact same location it’s tough to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Atheose July 7, 2008, 11:56 am
  • If my memory serves me right, the sox had plunked countless Yankees that series
    Looking at the gamelogs Daisuke hit ARod with a changeup in Game 1 of the series, and Clemens hit Pedroia with a fastball in Game 2. There were no HBP in Game 3.

    Atheose July 7, 2008, 12:02 pm
  • Atheose July 7, 2008, 12:03 pm
  • to address the other points in the post. It’s pretty clear the players messed up putting Varitek in the ASG. Whatever. To me, it just goes to show that you don’t have to play the game to understand relative performance values better.
    Bonds in pinstripes. I wonder if Cashman is even considering this. Probably not. But Victor Zambrano is rumored to be on the radar. Awesome.
    Gardner. That was a nice at bat by the guy, but I can’t say I have been impressed in the least by him. It’s early, but I worry that he has yet to hit a ball hard.

    Nick-YF July 7, 2008, 12:05 pm
  • > Daisuke hit ARod with a changeup in Game 1 of the series, and Clemens hit Pedroia with a fastball in Game 2.
    Yeah, but it was a gyro change.

    attackgerbil July 7, 2008, 12:06 pm
  • > I can’t say I have been impressed in the least by him
    Me neither, except he appeared to be exceptionally speedy beating out a potential double play.

    attackgerbil July 7, 2008, 12:07 pm
  • My memory didnt serve me despite the fact that I was at the game!

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 12:08 pm
  • > I can’t say I have been impressed in the least by him
    I actually have to disagree, I think alot of his outs have been well struck balls and I really like his approach at the plate. He hasnt been hitting warning track shots but they have been good line drives that happen to be at players. He isnt going up there just swinging. His ability to battle pitchers will end up as a good thing. I see a nice future for him…

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 12:12 pm
  • My memory didnt serve me despite the fact that I was at the game!
    Maybe there were a lot of high-and-tight pitches that were suspect without resulting in a HBP. The gamelogs don’t show stuff like that, so who knows.

    Atheose July 7, 2008, 12:16 pm
  • “However, Moose should be there”
    You can repeat this as often as you like, still doesn’t make it true.

    mark July 7, 2008, 12:16 pm
  • “gerbil still doesn’t mind Tek playing in the ASG”
    Can’t say I feel the same way AG. It’s really burning me up. I understand the players respect him, but come on.
    Player A: 154 AB’s – 14 Runs – 13 2B’s – .220 BA
    Player B: 243 AB’s – 18 Runs – 13 2B’s – .218 BA and 1 “C” on his chest.
    If you haven’t guessed by now player B is everyones favorite captain. Who is Player A you ask? Jose Molina. So I say the only way to make this right is to start a grassroots “Jose Molina or Bust” write in vote for the final spot. Log on now and get this done!

    John - YF July 7, 2008, 12:41 pm
  • I don’t think Gardner is the second coming, but I do think in his few at-bats he has actually had at least a few hard hit balls tha were right at guys. One right back to Masterson and another right at a drawn-in Lowell in Sat’s game and I think he had another hard hit one that I am trying to place – at Pedroia I think. Anyway, with such a small sample it means little, but I liked both of his final two at-bats yesterday and I liked him throwing out Pedroia on Sat. in the 1st (though that was more DP’s fault for trying to stretch to a double than anything amazing re: Gardner’s arm…and he did round the ball with the sharpness of a 747 for some reason before throwing). Anyway, I’m not blown away, but I love having speed and I like him finding a way this weekend. We’ve been so terrible at even making productive outs this year that it’s nice to at least have someone who does that!
    On anotehr note I did not see reflected int eh gamethread last night but about which my brother and I were having a cow during the game: any YF’s know WHY A-Rod was planted at 1st throughout Giambi’s last AB vs. Wakefield in the 7th? In the end it didn’t hurt the Yankees because Abreu and Cano got the necessary hits, but I thought it was terrible. Down by 2 they had a chance to force the Sox out of the Giambi shift and to avert a possible DP and they had arguably the best pitcher off of whom to steal – a guy who clearly seemed close to being yanked based on the bullpen action – and A-Rod sits there until it’s a full count. It reminded me of the inexplicable non-steal in the 2004 ALCS when Varitek was (erratically) catching Wakefield, thought clearly not as consequential a game, I did not get the (non)decision on this last night.

    IronHorse (yf) July 7, 2008, 12:43 pm
  • “Jose Molina or Bust”
    Plus, Jose was hit in the penis by a 90 mph+ fastball and stayed int eh game. On that alone he should get in ahead of Varitek.

    IronHorse (yf) July 7, 2008, 12:44 pm
  • I think I disagree. Moose definitely deserves to be in the game, especially when you factor in the uniform, the park, and the year he’s having in the stadiums last year.

    Brad July 7, 2008, 12:48 pm
  • Since .220 hitters can make it to the All-Star game, perhaps they _do_ hit .260 hitters?
    No? Too old? ;P

    Lar July 7, 2008, 12:48 pm
  • Call me a homer, but I like what I have seen so far from BG. He’s a gnat and I like gnats. Gnats can change games (See Juan Pierre and the Florida Marlins) He isn’t a big strong kid, but he knows what he can do and what he can’t. He seems to know I am BG, I don’t hit HR’s (Melky), I just hit the ball on the ground and beat it out. Now unfortunately for BG you have to have EXTREME amounts of talent to be that kind of player. If he can keep his OBP up he should stick with this team. His OBP will separate him from the Juan Pierre’s of the world. His defense already seems solid enough to at least be a 4th OF’r. I hope he works out, but that’s just me.

    John - YF July 7, 2008, 12:48 pm
  • “His ability to battle pitchers will end up as a good thing.”
    I absolutely agree. He’s consistently had a OBP about 100 points higher than his average. That’s a very good thing. No matter his average, he’ll get on base. Let other guys knock him in.
    And as previously talked about here, SBs end up getting devalued relative to SLG. Still, the kid had the GW RBI in each of the last two games. He’s got 3 SBs and 4 R in his first 21 AB – projected to 600 ABs that’s 90 SBs and 120 R. And that’s with only 3 hits and 2 BB. Imagine what could happen when he really gets on-base.

    A YF July 7, 2008, 12:49 pm
  • You know Lar I have been trying to come up with a catchy sign or T-Shirt to bring/wear to the ASG RE: the we don’t throw at .260 hitters comment, but I have been unsuccessful so far. How sweet would a funny T-Shirt like that be with a big fat YFSF logo underneath. Publicity and humor, what more can we ask for!

    John - YF July 7, 2008, 12:51 pm
  • IH – I was wondering the same thing – I was almost certain he would won because of the reasons you listed. Ah well.
    Gardner might or might not be good, but one thing the Yanks lacked was a late inning pinch running option. When Matsui/Damon comes back, it’ll still be neat to have Gardner coming in, say, a 9th inning lead off walk, and immediately steal second. *cough* Dave Roberts *cough*.

    Lar July 7, 2008, 12:51 pm
  • I’ve given this a lot of thought in the last week, watching Manny struggle.
    Sign Bonds. I was off the chart against this forever it seems, but this team needs a huge threat behind Manny. Slide Manny into third, Bonds into fourth, Ped and Drew to lead off, and figure out the rest.

    Brad July 7, 2008, 12:52 pm
  • Previous post refers to the ARod not stealing.

    Lar July 7, 2008, 12:52 pm
  • Imagine what could happen when he really gets on-base.
    Teams will start picking him off, and worrying more about him than the batter, and those numbers will slow down and he’ll start getting fastballs that he tries to jerk to the next town, then make his own outs..
    Oh, wait…

    Brad July 7, 2008, 12:54 pm
  • I watched the kid run, and he’s fast. He’s not Jacoby or Reyes fast, but he is definitely fast.

    Brad July 7, 2008, 12:55 pm
  • I don’t know if Moose “deserves” to be in the game, but on stats along, he’s borderline, and when you factor in the stadium and some respect (for an 260 game winner) I think he should’ve got in, and was actually slightly surprised when he didn’t.
    There are a few pitchers that probably didn’t “deserve” it – too many closers in my opinion, but there are also a few pitchers that, on pure stats, probably also deserved it more than Moose. Hamels is one, though he’s in NL, so doesn’t count. King Felix could be the face of baseball (well, as much as a pitcher can) for awhile, but didn’t make it somehow. Greinke certainly deserve it better than Soria, in my opinion. Etc.

    Lar July 7, 2008, 12:55 pm
  • Also, I haven’t read the scouting on Gardner, but the two AB’s he last had were impressive to me.. obviously the game winner, but he also had a long at bat where he almost doubled, but fought off a few pitches to drive up pitch counts. We’ll see when pitchers adjust, but I dig that.

    Lar July 7, 2008, 12:58 pm
  • IH: I wanted him to run there too. I’m not sure what the deal was, but I did notice Wake doing a really, really good job of varying his delivery times to keep Alex planted. He practically quick-pitched on one of the balls, and on another he waited about 3 minutes. So part of it may have just been Alex put off balance, and that’s not a place to get thrown out with a possible 2r, hr at the plate.
    Would like to hear Alex talk about it, but my guess is he was answering other questions….

    YF July 7, 2008, 12:59 pm
  • Moose is 57th ranked in VOPR for pitchers in the AL. I’m not sure, statistically speaking, he is even borderline. I don’t have a problem with him not being there.
    I do want to know if lowercase mark thinks Johnny Damon is having a good year.

    Nick-YF July 7, 2008, 12:59 pm
  • VOPR being an even more advanced version of VORP!

    Nick-YF July 7, 2008, 12:59 pm
  • I got to work and found out I didn’t have to be there. That ruled.
    As for this weekend…pah, the only one who got something out of that weekend, on balance, is the erstwhile Devil Rays. Still, Jon Lester IS awesome (against everything I thought and said he could be early this year).

    Devine July 7, 2008, 1:00 pm
  • By the way, anyone be going to FanFest this weekend?

    Lar July 7, 2008, 1:01 pm
  • I like Gardner’s speed and his approach at bat. I worry, from what I’ve seen, that he will provide pitchers with very little incentive to not throw it down the middle, or bust him inside. My eyes tell me that he’s not going to do much up here. I know that’s an amazingly reactionary and old school approach to analysis, but I’m a scout.

    Nick-YF July 7, 2008, 1:02 pm
  • My first car was a scout.

    Brad July 7, 2008, 1:06 pm
  • I think Franona replaced Wake exactly because he didn’t want A-Rod on second. But he overmanaged there, especially up two runs. Striking out Jorge twice already should have given him that AB, at least.

    A YF July 7, 2008, 1:20 pm
  • Hey, sorry to hijack, but in our fantasy league, my team crapped out – it won’t let me drop anyone because I need to drop a player to not go over the roster limit. It’s as stupid as it sounds. If the commissioner can edit my roster for next week so that one of my injured guys is on the DL, this should be resolved. If not, then this really sucks.

    Lar July 7, 2008, 1:58 pm
  • Yeah, some issues there as well, Larry. I can’t bench Upton because he’s still on my roster twice, and I have gotten negative points from both he and Manny for the last two weeks.
    Thank goodness for Guzzman and Morneau to keep it from being just horrible beatdowns.

    Brad July 7, 2008, 2:04 pm
  • Yeah Lar, Micah-SF and I completed a trade (ARod and Vernon Wells for Pujols and Brad Lidge) and it was approved by the commish… and then it never happened. There’s no record of it in any of the transactions or anything.

    Atheose July 7, 2008, 2:14 pm
  • Gentlemen, it’s unfortunate but FOX does not allow me to edit anyone’s team INCLUDING my own. I have the same amount of power/access as you do EXCEPT I have to approve trades. That’s all. I apologize for the awful flaws this site has but it was the only site I could find that was free. Next season we can surely do CBS, provided we all chip in.

    John - YF July 7, 2008, 2:16 pm
  • No worries John, we know it’s not your fault.

    Atheose July 7, 2008, 2:19 pm
  • yahoo is free too.

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 2:20 pm
  • I am fairly certain it’s not free anymore Sam. I think they changed it for the ’08 season.

    John - YF July 7, 2008, 2:21 pm
  • they have a free version and a for a fee version. They make it a little tougher to find the free one but its there. Im in a free yahoo league this year.

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 2:28 pm
  • Thanks Sam. I only used FOX because Yahoo kept prompting me to pay. I like Brad, Ath, Lar, etc…but not enough to pay for their awful fantasy teams to have a well run league. I am currently 11-3 but I feel like even if I do win I will wind up with a Patriot/Barry Bond type asterisk next to my championship.

    John - YF July 7, 2008, 2:31 pm
  • Of course I kid, I kid fellas.

    John - YF July 7, 2008, 2:33 pm
  • but not enough to pay for their awful fantasy teams
    Hey, I’m finally at .500 and am on a winning streak! FIRST PLACE HERE I COME!

    Atheose July 7, 2008, 2:34 pm
  • John- Im in the league too but i havent looked at my team in a very long time since i cant access it using Safari as a browser. Im in a number of other leagues, including a serious keeper league and accessing it via another browser just doesnt get done…

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 2:39 pm
  • Completely off any posted topic …
    Among the stories in today’s Chicago Tribune (such as the piece about O’Hare’s atrocious on-time statistics and the sad piece about the Chicago cop killed by a crazy woman) is this story about how prior connections to Bud Selig have helped many current owners, i.e. Henry/Werner, gain ownership.
    (The story is relevant here because the Cubs are for sale by wacky Trib Co. owner Sam “Don’t call me Jim Carville” Zell.)
    Draw your own conclusions (I already have: Selig is the devil’s seed), but at the very least it indicates that the role of the commish has changed quite dramatically from the days of Judge Landis.,0,6632178,full.story

    I'mBillMcNeal July 7, 2008, 3:04 pm
  • Also, I certainly understand the eyerolls over Varitek’s ASG selection (I was relieved when he was overtaken in the fan voting).
    But there’s a better issue for discussion: What does it say about the rest of the catchers in the AL when the players pick Tek to be the reserve?
    AJ P********* would have seemed to be a natural choice. That didn’t happen for a reason.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 7, 2008, 3:09 pm
  • because people hate him, that’s why.

    Brad July 7, 2008, 3:12 pm
  • Well, that’s easy, Brad. But AJ isn’t the only one who wasn’t selected.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 7, 2008, 3:17 pm
  • I’m first in my half of the league, you insensitive clod!

    Lar July 7, 2008, 3:23 pm
  • By the way, if I can vote, Yahoo is the way to go – the free version is sufficient in most aspects (though I don’t know/remember if it has h2h points, but it certainly has some h2h options..)
    I’ve been playing on Yahoo on a dynasty league (with a few others) for ~6-7 years, so they’ve had plenty of time to work out the quirks..

    Lar July 7, 2008, 3:25 pm
  • soon to be AL east champs the Rays just tied up their afternoon game in the bottom of the 9th on a HR by Carlos Pena

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 4:05 pm
  • Sam –
    I’m relieved to know I’m not the only one tracking that game. Makes me feel like a crazy person.

    rootbeerfloat July 7, 2008, 4:10 pm
  • But Buck hits a three-run homer to put the Royals ahead in the top of the 10th!

    Nick-YF July 7, 2008, 4:11 pm
  • followed by a shot by Avilles!

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 4:12 pm
  • You guys aren’t afraid this is just getting the Rays into a righteous lather on their way to see the Yanks?

    rootbeerfloat July 7, 2008, 4:15 pm
  • Wheeler’s ERA goes up .60 in one inning, creeping closer to his career 3.89 ERA. I’m tellin’ ya, there’s a lot of guys in that pen that are pitching 2+ runs better than their career averages. Wheeler’s ERA going into that inning was 1.82. It’s now 2.43. He’s not the only one.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 7, 2008, 4:18 pm
  • and hinske hits a HR to make it a 3R game

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 4:22 pm
  • Masterson sent to P’tucket; Corey Bailey recalled.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 7, 2008, 4:22 pm
  • Iwawawa grounds out. Game.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 7, 2008, 4:25 pm
  • I guess the sox are going for an internal fix for the bullpen:
    Terry Francona just announced Justin Masterson will be headed to the bullpen, starting with a stint in Pawtucket.

    dw (sf) July 7, 2008, 5:10 pm
  • The Rays will not make the playoffs.

    krueg July 7, 2008, 5:22 pm
  • “Terry Francona just announced Justin Masterson will be headed to the bullpen”
    I really don’t understand this move, short of sheer panic about their bullpen situation. Cause it’s not:
    a) His innings limit. He can throw 180-190 this year. He’s at 98 right now. 13-15 more starts at 6 IP seems like he’d do it no problem.
    b) His repertoire. He was hitting 90 mph on the stadium gun on Saturday as was Mussina. That’s not the stuff of a bullpen arm. Maybe if you need a groundball.
    c) His history. He came out of college as a starter and has been a starter for the last two years.
    Someone want to explain this move to me? Buchholz would seem to be a better fit short-term in the bullpen. But then what do they do when the fat and hairy Colon is ready?

    A YF July 7, 2008, 5:51 pm
  • seriously, if this were the yankees how many posts would we be reading about how horribly they handled this situation. Using semi-related facts to justify the position…

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 7:06 pm
  • You’re absolutely right, Sam. I’m waiting for SF’s explanation since he thought Joba should always remain a reliever.
    Let’s see if he’s had a few pints tonight…

    A YF July 7, 2008, 7:40 pm

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