C.C. + A.J. = N.Y.C.

ESPN:

Free agent right-hander A.J. Burnett has reached preliminary agreement on a five-year, $82.5 million contract with the New York Yankees, a baseball source told ESPN.com.

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  • WOO HOO!!!! Get Sheets next…

    krueg December 12, 2008, 6:09 pm
  • I guess this has to be considered a bad signing for the yanks since AJ has terrible post-season numbers: 0 Ks and 0 Ws in over 10 years as an MLB player….

    Sam-YF December 12, 2008, 6:22 pm
  • Regardless if the guy becomes the next Pavano or not, I think it’s pretty clear by now that Hal and Hank told Cashboy to shove his ‘build via the minors’ strategy where the sun don’t shine (because you, Cashboy, could not tell a major leaguer from a dishwasher).
    What a shambles that organization has become. 82.5, what a joke.

    Dirty Water December 12, 2008, 6:54 pm
  • Troll.

    Lar December 12, 2008, 6:56 pm
  • Troll.

    Lar December 12, 2008, 6:56 pm
  • DW,
    the “build via minors” strategy is not being shoved anywhere.. if anything it’s a bridge to building – and one hell of a bridge at that.

    tells-YF December 12, 2008, 6:58 pm
  • C.C., AJ, Wang, Joba, ????…SOLID rotation so far. The thing I love about the haters is that they never consider that these guys might actually pan out…who cares what they think. It’s exciting to be a Yankee fan right now!

    krueg December 12, 2008, 7:16 pm
  • Obviously as a Sox fan I don’t like this one bit, but most teams would LOVE to land one of these guys, haters are just that haters, hope we get Tex and 09 becomes a bananas rivalry year!

    pj-SF December 12, 2008, 7:25 pm
  • I guess I get the sooth prize.
    This prize pisses me off greatly.
    http://www.yfsf.org/2008/12/cc-coming-to-the-bronx.html#comment-142247494

    SF December 12, 2008, 7:58 pm
  • “I guess this has to be considered a bad signing for the yanks since AJ has terrible post-season numbers: 0 Ks and 0 Ws in over 10 years as an MLB player….”
    to the contrary, he should be the guy you give the ball to in the playoffs. you’ve seen what CC and wang can’t do.
    good signing…..if he can ditch the faberge tag. time will tell.

    sf rod December 12, 2008, 8:20 pm
  • The Sox are already a solid team obviously pj, but Tex would fill the hole that Manny left and make you guys even more scary…
    Here’s to the bananas….B…A…N…A…N…A…S!!!
    Still waiting for Brad to come on and provide his negative spin to this signing!
    (I kid Brad because I love!!!)

    krueg December 12, 2008, 8:26 pm
  • Build from within? DW the days of that argument being valid and pertinent are long over. The Yankees could have very well started the year with a rotation of Wang, Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, Aceves…all 5 being farm system guys. But in the AL east that rotation may get you 4th place in 2009. The talent is there, check the bullpen…young power arms from within. There is no way the Yankees or any large market team should sit idly by and let quality free agents pass them by in times of need. Losing moose and pettitte qualify as a time of need. Their farm system has added depth to the bullpen and “just in case” starters. No plan was abandoned. They addressed needs with the 2 best options available there’s ZERO shame in that. As a season ticket holder I’m glad the continue to reinvest the money they make AND build a very strong foundation within.

    John - YF December 12, 2008, 8:41 pm
  • Smart move by the Yankees. Yeah, the money’s a bit ridiculous, but… it’s the Yanks, what do you want? I really hope they don’t get Sheets as well, because if they’ve got an injury buffer for him he’ll be brutally effective for at least some of the year. I’d much prefer they get Pettitte back for 1/10 – barring a Moose-like rejuvenation, he’s the least scary of the possible remaining pitching additions. The only possible positive effect of the Yanks finishing their pitching binge is that it might push Lowe’s price down into a range the Sox would be willing to pay, but I’m not counting on it.
    I have now upgraded “we need to sign Mark Teixeira” to “holy fucking shit we need to sign Mark Teixeira.”

    Micah-SF December 12, 2008, 9:32 pm
  • I wonder how much IPK and Hughes sucking donkey b*lls has cost the Yankees this offseason. Not to say they wouldn’t have gone after these guys in earnest, or perhaps other players in lieu of the pitchers, but the youngsters offering just about nothing to the team this last season certainly altered the allocation of funds, and made the Yankees a market-maker.
    No knock on the Bombers, at all – they have had a tremendous off-season, and I do not reject this approach as I am sure some fans of my team will. But it is interesting and a testament to the unknown in baseball to see how rapidly things change. 10 months ago some prognosticators, YF and non-YF alike, were envisioning a Yankee rotation of Hughes, Chamberlain, Kennedy, Wang, other, for pennies, as time went on. Now the rotation may approach $300M in committed contracts less than a year after the Santana follies.

    SF December 12, 2008, 9:49 pm
  • I agree SF.
    If Hughes had even pitched “decently” and had actually accrued some major league innings I think the Yankees wouldn’t necessarily have gone much harder for anyone after Sabathia (besides a hitter like Texeira). If Kennedy hadn’t, as you say, sucked “donkey b@lls” (Hemingway?), they may have stopped on sabathia and possibly Pettitte.

    walein December 12, 2008, 10:17 pm
  • “DW the days of that argument being valid and pertinent are long over”
    Seriously, what are you smoking. In the past month they have declined arbitration on Giambi/Abreu, losing draft picks, and paid whatthehellevermore than anyone else for CC/AJ, losing more draft picks. Isn’t even a wee bit of you wondering if 8 years of failure has maybe forced an alternative approach?
    Looks to me as if they’ve given up, but than again, what the hell do I know.

    Dirty Water December 12, 2008, 10:40 pm
  • I agree with walein that AJ Burnett is the cost to the Yankees of Hughes being awful last year.

    AndrewYF December 12, 2008, 10:45 pm
  • SF: You are so off the mark you missed the matthew, luke, and johnboy. Let me give you some old testament, because “The New” Will Be Writ With The Blood Of Our… erm… umm… tax breaks.
    How much has it COST??? Money grows on trees shaped like cable television poles, satellite dishes, commodities brokers, cargo ships, and pink hats with white lettering! And we’re STILL PISSED that you guys landed DiceK! and… And… AND, despite how good he is after only two years facing MLB hitters, some of you guys still waver on him!!! /nasal twang/ “well, yeah, um, dude, I know he won, like, 18 games and lost only 3 and his era was sub-3, but his WHIP was flat from last year and i just get this feeling in my gut like he’s like, *lucky* or something, ya know? Andjoo notice his strikeouts were down? Just sayin’.. — FARGLE$*&)*@#&%!!!!
    Meanwhile we got.. and have.. and pay for…. K. Doesn’t get a cool nickname in front of k like “Dice”.. . it’s just.. “Kei”. And it’s not even pronounced “Kay”… it’s “Kee”. And we never made anything of him except a terror for every team visiting Dunder-Mifflinville and a B – P Kee pitcher for everyone else.
    *Pissed* is what we are. We shed just about 90 meeleon dollars worth of bacon-fat neck-sweat paid to big Gee, the big P, the littlest p, it’s-hit-to-the-right-field-WALL-BEEEEEEEEEEounces off-the-track-I-thought-he-had-a-play, and the Gentleman Senator from Pennsylvania (thanks, Moose.. you are one of the greatest despite whatever moronic capping I have thrown at your 18 years).
    Oh yeah, boy-o, it’ll cost, but we’ll spend.

    attackgerbil December 12, 2008, 10:59 pm
  • Been hitting a bit of the ol’ sauce this Friday night, AG?

    Paul SF December 12, 2008, 11:26 pm
  • whether you guy’s want to hear it or not, these signings cost draft slots. the yanks 1st round, 2nd round, and 2 sandwich picks are now gone. i’m not saying it wasn’t worth it, but cashmans dedication to farm system better get crafty with that 100th-something pick.

    sf rod December 12, 2008, 11:42 pm
  • Paul, you picked up on *pissed*? :) no, not tonight. I’m just having fun while on DD and stringing a bunch of BS that is probably _only_ funny in my mind.
    I thought SF’s _navel scratching_ question regarding finance is fun to leap from, but it’s just really noodling because the numbers are beyond comprehension.
    Hughes/IPK not working out is not an earth-shattering development, and the fact that they put some weight behind them last year is _now_ just a blip. The Yanks had a lot of money come off the books. Would they have made the same moves if IPK/Hughes had proved to have starts worth more than a bag of bags that hold bags that hold balls? I dunno. Just a fun Friday night speculation.

    attackgerbil December 13, 2008, 12:05 am
  • Again, no plan was abandoned. Had they traded Hughes, Chamberlain, etc…for Johan last off season I would have agreed that they were going back on their word of rebuilding from within. Instead they passed on Santana and picked up to young-ish pitchers that didn’t cost them anything (not to make light of $ or the current economic crunch) but money and draft picks. You simply cannot equate the loss of draft picks to giving up on the plan. I will say again, they weren’t going into opening day with a rotation of Wang, Joba, Hughes, IPK and Aceves, not when there were answers out there to be had. Does this mean they have less faith in Hughes than they did last year, absolutely, but that’s just short term faith. These moves give him more time to develop, under less pressure filled situations. Sure everyone would love to have kept the picks lost, but weigh that against losing your top prospects and the Yankees made the best possible move for them. In the end the balance is still there, they ML team is competitive and the minor league system is still in good shape.
    As for paying more than other teams, you are absolutely right. From all reports the Yankees blew the other teams away in the CC sweepstakes, but that’s because they were in a sense desperate. (Burnetts final reported numbers are much different than what the Braves were offering not the drastic amount you make it seem) This team is leaps and bounds better today than they were 7 days ago. Going into 2009 with say Burnett and Lowe or Burnett and Sheets, as opposed to Sabathia and Burnett is a huge difference in optimism and outlook. Sabathia isn’t Santana, hell he might not even be Beckett, but he was 2 things, the best available pitcher and the best pitcher on the Yankees roster. You can’t fault Cashman and the Yankees for going big, they blew him away and didn’t give him a chance to think. If we are going to believe the reports about the offers, we should also believe the reports that he would entertain lesser offers to stay in the bay. This is not an open haggling session, at any time SF, LA, LAA could have said enough BS, here’s a 130 million dollar deal sign it and we are done. Cashman and the Yankees took that out of play and got the best player available for their needs.
    As for the past 8 years being a “failure” I would agree that MAYBE last season was, but not the other 7. I refuse to call seasons in which they made the playoffs a failure.
    RE: Giambi and Abreu. It was the right move. Both players have received zero interest from other teams, if the Yankees want them back (doubtful)they get them back at THEIR price, not one decided by someone else.

    John - YF December 13, 2008, 12:34 am
  • Few guys off the non-tendered list that look like they could help the Yankees:
    Ty Wiggington = Gives you a decent bat off bench for 1B, 2B and 3B
    Aaron Miles = Can play 2B and SS
    Chris Burke = Can play IF and OF, with decent speed and bat
    Wily Taveras (If Cameron trade falls through?)
    Wouldn’t be a bad thing to kick the tires on any of these guys…

    John - YF December 13, 2008, 1:13 am
  • what about joey gathright to maybe help out in the outfield? pretty streaky but reminds me a little bit like melky except faster

    some yankee guy December 13, 2008, 2:22 am
  • I wonder if the Yanks or Sox will go for someone like Hensley or Saito (both non-tendered today)?

    walein December 13, 2008, 2:55 am
  • I wonder if the Yanks or Sox will go for someone like Hensley or Saito (both non-tendered today)?

    walein December 13, 2008, 2:56 am
  • The Yankees won’t. They need/want another starter and some say another hitter. Everyone they sign a player has to be cut the roster. By my estimation that gives them room for a few more moves Duncan, Ransom, etc…I don’t think they’d cut one of those guys too add to an already full pen.

    John - YF December 13, 2008, 9:52 am
  • The Yankees have the 29th and 76th picks guaranteed in next year’s draft.
    Of course, I’d rather have Gerrit Cole than the 29th pick next year, but last year’s draft wasn’t exactly a disaster for the Yankees, it was more like a B- instead of a B+ or A-.

    AndrewYF December 13, 2008, 9:54 am
  • JF
    In hindsight, what’s the difference between Santana for Hughes/Melky/Marquez, or CC for 2 high draft picks?
    Or better said; since when is Hughes not worth two high draft picks and one year of Santana?
    Santana is a stud, cost less years and, I believe anyway, actually wanted to play for the Yanks. Compare that to CC who is more an innings eater than stud, and certainly has reservations about pitching for the Yanks.
    The Yanks are trying to make up for a mistake, and have apparently overpaid to do so. That’s what I think.

    Dirty Water December 13, 2008, 10:30 am
  • Great move by the Yanks, they’re extremely solid now. If they nab Lowe/Sheets too… holy balls. Count me as one of the guys who REALLY wants Tex now.

    Atheose December 13, 2008, 10:30 am
  • Santana is a stud, cost less years and, I believe anyway, actually wanted to play for the Yanks. Compare that to CC who is more an innings eater than stud, and certainly has reservations about pitching for the Yanks.
    DW, CC is absolutely a stub, if the last two years are any indication. And Curt Schilling didn’t want to pitch in Boston until Theo and Company convinced him otherwise, and he now loves the city more than pretty much anyone else on the team. This is a fantastic move, and it allows Hughes/IPK/Aceves to stay in the farm and develop more without the pressure to perform on the big stage.
    Signing Sabathia/Burnett is NOT the Yankees trying to make up for the Johan mistake, it’s the Yankees trying to field a World Championship team. And for what it’s worth, Burnett is 5-0 with an ERA of 2.56 against the Red Sox.

    Atheose December 13, 2008, 10:37 am
  • Santana is a stud, cost less years and, I believe anyway, actually wanted to play for the Yanks. Compare that to CC who is more an innings eater than stud, and certainly has reservations about pitching for the Yanks.
    DW, CC is absolutely a stub, if the last two years are any indication. And Curt Schilling didn’t want to pitch in Boston until Theo and Company convinced him otherwise, and he now loves the city more than pretty much anyone else on the team. This is a fantastic move, and it allows Hughes/IPK/Aceves to stay in the farm and develop more without the pressure to perform on the big stage.
    Signing Sabathia/Burnett is NOT the Yankees trying to make up for the Johan mistake, it’s the Yankees trying to field a World Championship team. And for what it’s worth, Burnett is 5-0 with an ERA of 2.56 against the Red Sox.

    Atheose December 13, 2008, 10:39 am
  • Seems like it was Cash’s intention all along to let Johan go and sign C.C. this year. It cost no prospects, just $$$. So in hindsight, now we have C.C., AJ, Swisher and and another $40 million or so under last years payroll to get others without sacrificing any of our top prospects…not sure where you are coming from DW? Looks like we are a much better team now with an even lower payroll…

    krueg December 13, 2008, 11:01 am
  • I cant really take anyone serious who describes CC as “an innings eater” unless that means eating innings will not allowing the other team to score much.

    Sam-YF December 13, 2008, 11:15 am
  • I don’t think we should question whether or not CC is interested in NYC at this point.

    SF December 13, 2008, 11:26 am
  • CC an innings eater? Surely we can come up with better fat jokes than that.

    AndrewYF December 13, 2008, 1:43 pm
  • Krueg:
    I don’t think GMs work off assumptions about who might make it to free agency 15 months later. That’s a really risky strategy. I imagine Cashman felt Santana wasn’t worth Hughes and company, that’s why he didn’t make the deal. He was wrong last year (not sure about the long-term), but the signing of CC shouldn’t be read as part of last year’s contingent of non-moves.

    SF December 13, 2008, 2:42 pm
  • SF: I’ve heard them say that in interviews…they wanted to go the free agency route as opposed to trades and everyone knew C.C. would be out there this offseason…

    krueg December 13, 2008, 4:37 pm
  • “I don’t think we should question whether or not CC is interested in NYC at this point.”
    in fact, it’s more questionable than ever. find me another contract where the player controlled option comes before half the life of the contract is up. there isn’t one. CC wasn’t willing to sing with the yanks till cashman gave him an early opt-out. it would be stupid for him to opt-out due to the fact that the deal is back end loaded. no one can say he “wants” to be in new york, because it is very clear that the deals sticking point was his “want” to be able to leave….sooner than later.

    sf rod December 13, 2008, 4:59 pm
  • I’d like to see the Sox take a flier on Saito, myself. There’s some injury concern there, but if he’s healthy, there’s nothing to say he wouldn’t be at least very good in the seventh or eighth inning with Okajima and Ramon Ramirez. It’d be potentially a shutdown bullpen, for sure, and that was as much a weakness during the regular season last year as the lack of a decent catcher at the plate or the injuries to Ortiz and Lowell.

    Paul SF December 13, 2008, 5:00 pm
  • No negative spin for me, K.
    THis is an awesome move for NY. I’ve said all along that AJ the one that scared me the most as a SF: supreme talent, seemingly over his elbow issue and scar tissue thing, a strike out maching, and a guy who OWNS the Red Sox.
    Great move by the Yankees here.
    Bravo.
    Sometimes, you just have to tip the cap, and conceed what could be a brilliant move by the opposing squad.

    Brad December 13, 2008, 5:15 pm
  • HA! We now have a rotation of
    1. CC Sabathia (Cy Young)
    2. AJ Burnett (owns the entire AL East)
    3. Chien Ming Wang (won 19 games in 06, 07)
    4 Lowe/Sheets/Pettite (one’s gonna goin to NYY)
    5. Joba Chamberlain (untouchable)
    That’s your 2009 World Series Champs rotation (wuch ya gonna do bout dat Boston?)

    Yanksfan December 13, 2008, 7:13 pm
  • Sweet.
    I didn’t know that a rotation of a guy who will probably have some sort of IP cap this year, a guy who Boston has shown they handle, a guy in Burnett who has every chance to be great or inactive, and an assumption of the last starter who has yeat to sign.
    Let’s play the games, huh?

    Brad December 13, 2008, 8:25 pm
  • Just ignore the trolls.

    AndrewYF December 13, 2008, 8:47 pm
  • I think that Sabathia signed a deal that most players would love to sign. He did this because that’s what the market allowed.
    A long term, top dollar, contract that allows one to opt out if they aren’t happy or if they believe the market is better for them after that time.
    One could argue that the Yankees get to back-load the contract and attain an ace pitcher that will help ensure post-season births and success, and if those things happen, the Yankees will not mind if CC decides to go elsewhere and may possibly be so happy that he will be excited to stay.

    walein December 13, 2008, 9:34 pm
  • in fact, it’s more questionable than ever. find me another contract where the player controlled option comes before half the life of the contract is up.
    CC’s opt-out is no indication of a lack of desire to play in NYC. It means one thing: CC had leverage and used it. Why wouldn’t a player ask for this? Why wouldn’t he accept it if his demand was met? CC has control (mostly) over his future, all while knowing he has a guaranteed $160M if he wants it. CC has committed to NYC for three years, the prime ones of his career. Yes he’s being paid a lot, but he could have been paid a lot somewhere else.
    He wants to be in NY, at least right now. Sox fans should accept that.

    SF December 13, 2008, 10:03 pm
  • If Sabathia didn’t want to be in New York, he wouldn’t have signed the contract. Like I said before, Schilling was very hesitant about Boston at first before talking with the Red Sox, and he’s absolutely loved it since then. There’s no reason it won’t happen to Sabathia.

    Atheose December 13, 2008, 10:32 pm
  • When the opt out was first reported, it was reported as a condition that C.C. asked for in case he didn’t like New York. That might have just been reporter speculation, but it was reported that way…

    Paul SF December 14, 2008, 9:52 am
  • Whatever is reported, the opt-out, like most contract-related things was about money and leverage. As said before, it gives him more control over what happens contract-wise in the peak of his career. It may be fun for sum to speculate that its a NY thing, these were the same writers who were saying CC wouldnt be coming to NY. That seemed to be less than correct….

    Sam-YF December 14, 2008, 11:07 am
  • OK Brad…this season should be very interesting!

    krueg December 14, 2008, 12:04 pm

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