Chain Lightnin’, Frightnin’: Yanks-Tribe ALDS Gamer I

"Look Out, Cleveland, the storm is comin’ through,
And it’s runnin’ right up on you." – The Band

The hottest team in the major leaugues over their last 30 games was the Colorado Rockies, who were 22-8 over that stretch.  The second-best record over the last 30 was 21-9, a mark shared by this evening’s opponents at Jacobs Field, which sees the New York Yankees facing the Cleveland Indians in game one of the ALDS.

Though the Yankees trailed at least at one point in four out of the six games played head-to-head this season, they did not drop a game to the Tribe and outscored Cleveland 49-17 on the year including 22-6 at the Jake.  Wright, Igawa, Henn, Hughes, Mussina, and Pettitte were the game winners, with Henn’s victory being the most dramatic. On April 19th at Yankee Stadium, ace pitcher Fausto Carmona held the Yankees close for most of the game, but Rasner, Myers and Bruney combined for 6 innings to hold the Tribe to a single run, and handed a one-run lead to Luis Vizcaino.  The Tribe knocked him around for four runs in the seventh, and went on to score an unearned run in the top half of the ninth on a Robinson Cano throwing error, giving them a 6-2 lead.  Josh Phelps homered in the bottom half of the frame with two outs off closer Joe Borowski.  Three singles around a walk led to two more runs, followed by the high drama of an Alex Rodriguez walk-off, three-run shot to left center for the 8-6 victory.  The score matched their record at the time, but after that early high point, the Yankees went on to get swept at Fenway and lose their next seven games in a row, as well as 23 of their next 36 until their dramatic June turnaround and the eventual recovery of post-season aspirations.

One pitcher the Bombers did not have to face all season is the other ace of the Cleveland staff, Carsten Charles Sabathia.  Averaging just over seven innings a start, C.C. Sabathia has given up a remarkable 37 walks in 241 innings, or one walk every 6.51 innings, a hair behind only the notoriously stingy Greg Maddux and Curt Schilling amongst starters, and his strikeout-to-walk ratio of 5.65 is tops in the game for starters.  The worthy Cy Young candidate is on the mound tonight, carrying with him a string of five wins in his last six starts having allowed 12 runs over the span of 44 innings, with Cleveland winning each of those games.  Another remarkable feat is that he has been brought out of a game in the middle of an inning only four times this season, and not since July 29th.

Chien Ming Wang gets the ball for New York.  He did not start against the Tribe this season, and has recorded the loss in only two games over 10 starts since the beginning of August.  He split his two starts against the Indians in 2006.

Pete Abraham reported about a freak accident involving a YES photographer falling on Doug Mientkiewicz’s left leg.  After getting checked out, taped up, and working through some agility drills, he has been cleared to play.

Lineups:

New York Yankees
Johnny Damon lf   .270/.351/.396
Derek Jeter ss   .322/.388/.452
Bobby Abreu rf   .283/.369/.445
Alex Rodriguez 3b   .314/.422/.645
Jorge Posada c   .338/.426/.543
Hideki Matsui dh   .285/.367/.488
Robinson Cano 2b   .306/.353/.488
Melky Cabrera cf   .273/.327/.391
Doug Mientkiewicz 1b   .277/.426/.543
 
Chien-Ming Wang rhp   3.70/117+/1.294
 
Cleveland Indians
Grady Sizemore cf   .277/.390/.462
Asdrubal Cabrera 2b   .283/.344/.370
Travis Hafner dh   .266/.385/.451
Victor Martinez c   .301/.374/.505
Ryan Garko 1b   .289/.359/.483
Jhonny Peralta ss   .270/.341/.430
Kenny Lofton lf   .283/.344/.370
Franklin Gutierrez rf   .266/.318/.472
Casey Blake 3b   .270/.339/.347
 
C.C. Sabathia lhp   3.21/138+/1.141
356 comments… add one
  • Smoke that Wang, Tribesmen!

    SF October 4, 2007, 5:58 pm
  • I hope Wang goes limp and can’t get up for the game.

    LocklandSF October 4, 2007, 6:00 pm
  • I have a real bad feeling about this series. If they can steal this one, I will feel a little better. I’m also not sure on Matsui over Duncan.
    Now, to be positive….Yanks in 4!!

    m.g. yanks fan October 4, 2007, 6:01 pm
  • Too bad the Top Chef finale wasn’t tonight, we could have sung “everybody Wang Hung tonight!”.

    SF October 4, 2007, 6:02 pm
  • > “everybody Wang Hung tonight!”
    That’s pretty good.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 6:05 pm
  • Does anyone know if CC Sabathia has a particular entrance song? I think he should, there are lots of options:
    (A) Rubber Bullets – 10 cc
    (B) Gonna Make You Sweat – C&C Music Factory
    (C) Hit by Love – CeCe Peniston
    I’m sure the list goes on.

    FenSheaParkway October 4, 2007, 6:05 pm
  • CC should enter to anything by the famed all African-American heavy metal cover band:
    Black Sabathia.

    SF October 4, 2007, 6:09 pm
  • Don’t know how much I will be here tonight men, I have a long standing tradition of keeping the book for the playoffs. I will check in once in awhile. Go Yankees! Stick it to ’em Wang!
    Career AVG’s Vs. Sabathia
    Johnny Damon 0.429
    Derek Jeter 0.545
    Bobby Abreu 0.750
    Alex Rodriguez 0.412
    Hideki Matsui 0.000 (0-9)
    Jorge Posada 0.231
    Robinson Cano 0.000 (No AB’s)
    Doug Mientkiewi 0.227
    Melky Cabrera 0.000 (No AB’s)
    Jason Giambi 0.182
    Team 0.339

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 6:10 pm
  • *groan*

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:11 pm
  • Ooh, good one. And much more realistic than any Baseball player allowing 10 cc to be associated with him.

    FenSheaParkway October 4, 2007, 6:11 pm
  • >heavy metal cover band Black Sabathia
    Now that’s funny.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 6:12 pm
  • Look at those averages against CC, Trisk. Makes you wonder why the Indians would even start Sabathia in this series. I mean, this is a guaranteed first inning multi-run deficit based on those numbers.
    (this is sort of a joke, a riff on the “why would the Angels start Lackey against the Sox last night when his record in Fenway stunk” stuff, even though he won 19 games and was one of the best starters in the AL…)

    SF October 4, 2007, 6:13 pm
  • Then again, Sabathia hasn’t faced the Yankees since 2004. I don’t put much weight in those numbers, or the fact that he’s only 1-7 lifetime against the Bombers.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 6:17 pm
  • Numbers are good, Matsui is really the only one who has struggled terribly. Joe had mentioned he was toying with starting Dunk tonight at DH, but I guess that was just a thought. Either way Matsui’s avg is comparable facing LH vs. RH (I think he hit .270 vs. Lefties, .293 vs. Righties) and his OBP is almost identical. So we shall see!

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 6:17 pm
  • Agreed AG, they are just numbers, you are right.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 6:18 pm
  • God, I wish this would start already. I can’t read anymore breakdowns or home/away splits. Just play already

    m.g. yanks fan October 4, 2007, 6:21 pm
  • Looks like it’ll start on TNT – doubt that the Rocks-Phils game will be over in 7 minutes.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:23 pm
  • Why do they keep calling Melky a lefty? Does he hit better from the left side? I’m too lazy to look up the splits…

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:29 pm
  • Awww. Whoever was watching the L&O reruns is going to be sorely disappointed…

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:31 pm
  • Caray, Gwymn, Brenley? Could be worse….

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:33 pm
  • > Why do they keep calling Melky a lefty?
    Throws left.
    He’s a slightly better hitter as a lefty, and of course has had many more opportunities from that side of the plate since the majority of pitchers are right-handed.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 6:33 pm
  • But they keep saying he’s a lefty hitter. He’s not, dangit!
    OK, deep breaths…Here we go.
    Wheeeeeeee~~!

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:36 pm
  • We’re off. The Post had an interesting pitch chart on Sabbathia today. Loves to go down away on lefties. Yanks need to lay off that. If they do….

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:38 pm
  • DAMON! YES? No? No. UGH.

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:39 pm
  • Um. TBS? A replay? Please?

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:39 pm
  • HOMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Who needs replay!!!!!

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:40 pm
  • YEEEEEEEAHHHHHHH!

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:40 pm
  • Thanks for 1 replay TBS. are they for real?

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 6:41 pm
  • And that’s why I hate the idea of replay. In the ALDS, we don’t have a decent angle on that play.
    Pretty weak-ass work by TBS.
    Meanwhile, great sign for the Yanks. If the lefties dont chase, good things can happen.

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:41 pm
  • I asked for replay before they changed the call. Now there’s no need ;)

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:41 pm
  • Wow, I can’t believe they initially called that foul. Was fair by a mile.
    TBS sucks, by the way.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 6:41 pm
  • Yeah, it’s not like TBS hasn’t been broadcasting baseball games for many years or anything. Yeeesh.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:43 pm
  • Jeter gets a big cut on 2-2, but pops to 2nd.
    Yanks taking some swings.
    TBS still fumbling the Damon call….

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:44 pm
  • 1-1 hi heat to abreu called a strike. not so sure. boo.

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:44 pm
  • Ew. Bruce Froemming.
    I guess we should stop carping on TBS, they’re not likely to change anything anyhow. Does TBS get any LCS games too?

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:45 pm
  • There’s no excuse, Yankeemonkey. We shouldn’t be subjected to this crap.
    Wow, that was a 3rd strike to Abreu but not called one.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 6:45 pm
  • But he gets a couple of borderlines for the walk there. BB.

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:46 pm
  • I know, Atheose, and I agree totally. However, I don’t feel like it’s worth it to raise my blood pressure. There’ll be enough stuff in the actual game for that :)

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:47 pm
  • Here we go. ALex in the playoffs. 1-1, now.

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:47 pm
  • looks at a hanger on the outside. you know he’s waiting for a heater. nice pitch.

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:48 pm
  • Here’s Mr. Choke Chokester Chokerman.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:48 pm
  • Sabathia is very, very unimpressive.

    SF October 4, 2007, 6:49 pm
  • BB. NIce ab by Alex not to chase. That might be a theme this series. On to Jorge.

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:49 pm
  • CC not getting the calls. 1-0 to jorge.

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:51 pm
  • Is it me or is this a tiny strikezone tonight?

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 6:51 pm
  • that was a serious choke by arod. a walk come on…

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 6:52 pm
  • Making him work nicely. I have to assume CC will settle down since he seems to be overthowing right now; and that one or two more here would therefore be critically important. C’mon Jorge.

    IronHorse (yf) October 4, 2007, 6:52 pm
  • k. nice job there by cc. i think sf is getting WAY ahead of himself, there.

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:53 pm
  • crap, an easy 4-3 fc for matsui.

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:55 pm
  • I was joking about Mr. Chokerman, by the way. That was a great AB by Alex, not chasing. Take your base, let others drive you in…Of course Posada K’ing and Groundzilla don’t really help, but whatever.
    CC’s pitch count’s gotta be around 35+ after 1 inning, right?

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:56 pm
  • Wang hits Sizemore on the foot on the first pitch of the game.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 6:58 pm
  • WTF, Wang?

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:58 pm
  • Take that!
    Okay. Not really the ideal start here.

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:58 pm
  • Captain turns the 6-3 dp to erase the runner.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 6:59 pm
  • Wang showing nerves, hitting Sizemore’s foot on the first pitch. He immediately induces a Double Play though.
    Damn sinkerballers.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 6:59 pm
  • YEAH! 6-4-3. Couldn’t draw it up better.

    YF October 4, 2007, 6:59 pm
  • CMWang special!

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 6:59 pm
  • Excuse me. 6-3dp. What am i thinking? rusty from the time off….

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:00 pm
  • HE PLANNED THAT!

    JUDDERMAN October 4, 2007, 7:00 pm
  • I don’t understand the “project donkey” thing.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 7:01 pm
  • Good job, Damon, but too bad we couldn’t jump on CC more.
    That’s one way for Wang to get two outs on three pitches!

    Lar October 4, 2007, 7:01 pm
  • oh man. that 1-1 pitch for a strike to make it 1-2 was AWESOME.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:01 pm
  • It’s 8am here in Korea. That double play gb just woke me up real nice!

    J (yf) October 4, 2007, 7:01 pm
  • Also, that pronk nickname. “project donkey.” that’s gotta be because he “swings a big stick” right?

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:02 pm
  • I’m supposed to be working on a paper but I’m waaayy too keyed up to concentrate. Gulp.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 7:02 pm
  • Hello Korea!
    Hafner walk. Happens.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:03 pm
  • YF, still don’t get it :(
    Hm. Hafner walks…not the worst thing to pitch around him.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 7:03 pm
  • Off to my favorite bar.. ya, Hafner walking isn’t the worst thing in the world, but for someone with “exceptional” aim, let’s hope it’s not so bad..

    Lar October 4, 2007, 7:05 pm
  • That 0-2 was just inside. Nice pitch.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:05 pm
  • 0-2 to Vmart, who holds off of a nasty sinker for 1-2, then lashes another for a single to Abreu. 2 on.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:06 pm
  • Next pitch – not so nice. The sinker doesn’t, and Martinez pulls it to right.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:06 pm
  • That’s the problem with a lot of teams–they only have one or two REALLY dangerous batters, you can just walk them.
    Martinez gets a hit though, showing that they’re better than the Angels. Men on 1st and 2nd for Garko.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 7:06 pm
  • Another single, Melky no shot at Hafner. Vmart held at 2nd.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:08 pm
  • Wow, Posada tries a snap throw to second and Cano makes a beautiful acrobatic grab to prevent it from running into center. Garko lines the next pitch to center just out of the reach of Cano, plating Hafner. Tie game.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:08 pm
  • Cano did get up in the air on that one, gerb.
    Oooooh. Though Wang had Peralta looking.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:11 pm
  • Wang is overthrowing a lot. He’s on extra rest, right? Perhaps he’ll settle down a bit once he gets a little tired.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 7:13 pm
  • Wang has thrown a lot of good pitches this inning, just hasn’t been able to get the putaways.
    Peralta walks. The good news. Lofton up.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:13 pm
  • On a 2-2, Peralta looks at a close slider (just outside) for a full count. Fouls off a pitch, then another, and yet another. On the ninth pitch of the at bat, Wang is high and loads the bases for Lofton.
    CCS at 33, CMW at 27 pitches.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:13 pm
  • Let’s hope you’re right YF…

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 7:14 pm
  • Pete A. reported Hughes was available in long relief tonight. Maybe he should start stretching just in case.
    Fuckin’ Lofton.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 7:15 pm
  • Lofton singles up the middle and scores two more, but Peralta gets caught in a rundown between second and third to end the inning. Tribe 3, Yanks 1. Urgh.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:15 pm
  • Ugh. Lofton plates two with a grounder. That’s Wang for you, though. Grounders find holes.
    Garko kind enough to get caught, i believe, 8-5-4 for out 3.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:16 pm
  • wang needs to settle in for us to have a chance in this one.
    the 4 pitch walk is nice!

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 7:19 pm
  • Damn, Sabathia is a big dude.
    He starts out with two balls to Cano; the 2-0 looked like a strike but the ump thinks it was away. The next pitch is high. Nice, Robi.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:19 pm
  • Funny, the lefties are looking more comfortable against ccs than the righties.
    Walk for Robi.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:19 pm
  • Melkster looking outmatched their. Fouls out to first.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:21 pm
  • Melky pops out in foul territory towards first. Doug to the plate. Hope his leg holds up.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:21 pm
  • Minky has a pin in his right ankle? Huh? Or do they mean his *hand*?

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 7:22 pm
  • Froemming is not giving the outside part of the plate to CC, but then Doug pops out to 6 for 2 away.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:23 pm
  • Minky pop to short. Feh.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:23 pm
  • Now the plate gets a bit wider and Johnny takes strike one. The 0-1 is a breaking ball low that Damon misses. Tribe towels are waving. The 0-2 is way outside and low. 1-2: low but Robi is caught trying to be a thief. Even with a hitch in Martinez throw, he was gone by a mile. Blech.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:25 pm
  • Robi dead to rights stealing. Yuck. This keeps up it’s going to be a very long very short series.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:25 pm
  • Wang has thrown a lot of good pitches this inning, just hasn’t been able to get the putaways.
    Well, I am late to the commenting, but YF and I were watching two different games. Looked to me like Wang’s sinker wasn’t starting at the right spot, a release point thing, and his fastball had poor location. I didn’t see lot of very good pitches in that first inning from Wang. Eyes of the beholder, and all that, I guess. Hope he can continue to throw good pitches for the rest of the game, if that’s what they get him, though!

    SF October 4, 2007, 7:27 pm
  • And that pitch to Gutierrez was poorly located, as well, though Gutierrez didn’t handle it.

    SF October 4, 2007, 7:29 pm
  • Quick first out in the 2nd for the wanger.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:29 pm
  • Ex-Yank Joel Skinner is the Tribe’s bench coach. Didn’t know that. Martinez’ uptick in CS efficiency is credited to pre-season work with Skinner according to the announcers. That’s great color.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:29 pm
  • Why the hell does Cano continue to try to steal? He’s awful.
    Didn’t take long for the always classy “Yankees suck” chant to start.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 7:30 pm
  • That sequence to Blake was very good, though.

    SF October 4, 2007, 7:30 pm
  • K. More like it. 2 down quickly.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:31 pm
  • Maybe I’m hypersensitive to it as a YF, but I really don’t hear the “_____ suck” for any other teams besides Yanks (and Boston against Yanks) all that much. Pet peeve.
    Grady makes his Ladies happy with a single to left.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 7:33 pm
  • ANother one squirts through. Really not anxious for another 2 out rally here.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:33 pm
  • Nice chuck from Posada to catch Sizemore.

    SF October 4, 2007, 7:34 pm
  • And Posada nails him thieving!

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 7:34 pm
  • Tribe’s BABIP looking really good this game. Wang hating stat-heads rejoice as Sizemore singles past a diving Cano.
    Now Jorge shows off his gun as Cabrera squares to bunt but the pitch is low, and Sizemore is caught with his feet in the cookie jar.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:34 pm
  • Posada guns out Sizemore at 2b. I hope BRAW was watching that.

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 7:35 pm
  • Please, do not mention that name. Please?!

    SF October 4, 2007, 7:36 pm
  • ANOTHER CS!
    Re the decent pitches from Wang. Read the thread. There were many of them. And he was up on both Hafner and VMart (among others) before letting them go. As readers here know, sf is more of glass half empty kind of guy (it;s an rsn thing!), while i’m more of a glass full type.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:36 pm
  • Sam, please don’t mention that name in vain…it’s like summoning him in here, just looking for trouble!

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 7:37 pm
  • btw, re the glass full/empty remark (said with love) it extends only to baseball. in real life, i think sf is much more of a full glass type than yours truly. my glass is perpetually one quarter full.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:38 pm
  • YF:
    Wang was wild. He wasn’t hitting his spots. His bad pitches got hit. He was far better in the second inning, only mislocating one pitch. This isn’t an attack on Wang, just observation. He didn’t have a good first inning at all. Not sure why that’s “half-empty”. He got hit reasonably solidly and gave up three runs, also hit a guy. But have it your way: I’ll be happy if he continues to pitch as “well” in the playoffs as he did in that first inning.

    SF October 4, 2007, 7:39 pm
  • Damon out. Here’s Jeets.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:39 pm
  • Where did i say he pitched well overall? I said he made SOME really good pitches. he did. but he couldn’t get the putaways, and it hurt him. what’s so complicated? obviously, that first inning was not a success.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:40 pm
  • I have reached the conclusion that Indians fans are mouthbreathing douchebags.

    doug YF October 4, 2007, 7:41 pm
  • Jeter swinging on his heels there goes down on the k. Big swing on the hard one inside. Woof.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:42 pm
  • Jeter screws himself into the ground on a 2-2 inside fastball for the second out.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:42 pm
  • Wang has thrown a lot of good pitches this inning, just hasn’t been able to get the putaways.
    I’d say this comment implies a well-pitched inning without a bit of luck. I’d argue otherwise. This is splitting hairs, we seem to be in some agreement, let’s move on.

    SF October 4, 2007, 7:42 pm
  • Captain didn’t look pretty there. That was kind of embarrasing.

    doug YF October 4, 2007, 7:42 pm
  • We’re not in agreement. YOU”RE WRONG.
    Okay. Moving on now……As you can imagine, a little testy here!

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:44 pm
  • BB for Bobby. COME ON ALEX. Time for some serious clutchosity.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:45 pm
  • Sabathia gives Bobby a haircut on the 2-1. Yikes. The 2-2 tails outside to make it full. The payoff: tipped breaking pitch below Martinez’ glove. Another payoff, tailing low; nice pitch to sucker a lefty but Bobby didn’t chase.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:45 pm
  • Got one there, but he pops a heater on the inside half to short. DAMN. First pitch swinging….

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:45 pm
  • ARod – first pitch pop out to 6 to end the inning.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:46 pm
  • Lou Piniella’s glass is half-empty.

    SF October 4, 2007, 7:46 pm
  • lol @ this Lou Piniella commercial.

    doug YF October 4, 2007, 7:46 pm
  • Lou Piniella’s glass is broken.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:47 pm
  • Gurk.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 7:49 pm
  • Lou Piniella’s glass is empty because he loves drinking Aquafina brand water.

    doug YF October 4, 2007, 7:49 pm
  • Another good pitch.

    SF October 4, 2007, 7:50 pm
  • 4-1 Tribe on the solo shot by A. Cabrera.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:50 pm
  • Come on. I know you gotta give the kid a pitch on 2-2 with Hafner on deck, but that’s a crap pitch.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:50 pm
  • Agreed, horrible pitch. Fat, middle plate, no sink.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:50 pm
  • Wang really up with the ball.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:51 pm
  • Hafner down. So Hafner he retires, Astrubal Cabrera dinger. COme on.
    And here’s LeBron, Alger Hiss of Cleveland.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:52 pm
  • Hafner grounds out 4-3.
    Lebron represents for the Yankees.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:52 pm
  • KING JAMES knows what’s up.

    doug YF October 4, 2007, 7:53 pm
  • Didn’t LeBron grow up in Ohio? Unless he did so in Columbus during the Clippers era, the guy’s clearly a front-runner.
    BOO!!!!

    SF October 4, 2007, 7:53 pm
  • LeBron’s Yanke cap brim has no curve at all! He needs Papi to break it in for him. Wally! It’s not what you think!

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:54 pm
  • As baseball fans, what, can someone tell me, did we do to deserve Craig Sager? Bud? Seriously. He talked to the NBA player. Now that’s enough.
    Cheapie for Garko.

    YF October 4, 2007, 7:54 pm
  • I think he also told Craig Sager he’s a Dallas Cowboys fan. Why don’t you boo him some more.

    doug YF October 4, 2007, 7:54 pm
  • AG, can’t we move past that Wally commercial..lol.

    rob October 4, 2007, 7:54 pm
  • Garko with a dying quail on two outs gives the Tribe a baserunner.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:54 pm
  • > move past
    NEVER!

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:55 pm
  • BOO!!!!
    How can anyone root for the Cowboys? The Yankees I can at least understand, but man, the Cowboys? Blech.

    SF October 4, 2007, 7:55 pm
  • LeBron’s from Akron.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 7:57 pm
  • Not that I don’t think they can win this game, but in recent years they seem to have done better when they lose Game 1 of the DS.
    Glass half full…glass half full…

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 7:58 pm
  • Wedge ain’t afraid of no Yanks; he sez it’s just like shooting womp-rats in beggar’s canyon back home.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:00 pm
  • Robi with a LASER drive to right for the dinger. Tribe 4, Yanks 2.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:03 pm
  • ROBI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:03 pm
  • whats up with the camera man on the field?

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 8:03 pm
  • ROBBIE CANO DON’T YOU KNOW

    doug YF October 4, 2007, 8:04 pm
  • if the difference in this game winds up being a dinky ground single by kenny friggin’ lofton….that’s just not gonna sit well.

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:06 pm
  • i’ll take the victory, ym.

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:07 pm
  • Wang’s control is _Hurting_ right now.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:07 pm
  • UGH. It’s Kenny LOFTON (who I happen to really like). Wang’s had to pitches that were wild this AB alone.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:09 pm
  • Now he gets the easy pop from lofton? take it, but, um, couple innings too late!

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:09 pm
  • Off-topic:
    Marion Jones reportedly has written a letter to family and friends in which she admits using steroids before winning five medals at the 2000 Olympics
    How long until we find out about some more seriously high-profile MLBers from the past 10 years as users? Inevitable, and sad.

    SF October 4, 2007, 8:11 pm
  • Gator sez, “De ting here is you jes go out dare anna throw dis here ball past dat man agin an agin anna de bats will do what dey do, mon ami.”

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:11 pm
  • accordign to this, losing the first game would be a good sign: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/05/sports/baseball/05chass.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

    rootbeerfloat October 4, 2007, 8:12 pm
  • SF: I’ve been tracking that story as well. Sad, truly sad. She _directly_ lied to everyone with her “denial” press conference, but the false testimony to the Feds is just brutal. She’s responsible for her actions, but I genuinely liked her and wanted her to prevail through this trial. Turns out, she’s just plain dirty.
    Nice play by ARod to get the force at second.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:14 pm
  • ag- to be fair…it was a nice play by cano to get the force at second. a-rods throw was in the dirt.

    sf rod October 4, 2007, 8:21 pm
  • For all of CC’s success against lefties, Yanks have 2 runs on 2 hits, both of them by lefties. This truly is a strange game.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 8:21 pm
  • Good point, SFR.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:21 pm
  • Dunkster on for Doug.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:22 pm
  • Duncan in.

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:23 pm
  • Attackgerbil, that’s how I felt with Rafael Palmero. I lived in Dallas for 8 years when he was on the Rangers and he was a hero of mine, so when he tested positive for ‘roids (especially after his finger-pointing congressional hearing) I was heart broken.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 8:23 pm
  • Shelley rips a payoff just foul up third. Then goes the other way to single to the RF corner. SHELLEY! Nice hitting.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:24 pm
  • Joe not effin’ around. Like it. And it works.
    Now is the time for the short leesh.

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:24 pm
  • Atheose, yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I was a big Rafi fan.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:24 pm
  • AAARRRRRRRRRGH!!!!! *^@#$%!
    My cable just went out. You are my only hope, fellow YFSF-ers.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 8:25 pm
  • Tight plate right now.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:25 pm
  • Wow, two really close pitches both called balls. This ump is REALLY inconsistent, both to CC and Wang.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 8:25 pm
  • REALLY tight plate. Wow. Ball four was definitely away though. Johnny on first, Shelley pushed to second on yet another BB from CC.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:26 pm
  • That first pitch to Jeter was a strike.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:27 pm
  • I’ve always hated guys that test positive for steroids, always reacted in anger, but with Rafi I had a hole in my chest. I felt like I had been dumped.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 8:27 pm
  • Here. We. Go. COME ON YANKS!!!!

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:27 pm
  • Carl Willis sez, “throw strikes, CC.”
    CC sez, “whatchyou talkin about Willis? I am. They ain’t calling them.”

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:28 pm
  • This from LoHud:
    By the way, that cameraman who ran [Dougie M] over was fired by YES. He was a freelancer based in Cleveland.
    The plot thickens…

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 8:29 pm
  • Yeah, last inning CC had a HUGE strikezone, this inning not so much. The ump is trying to make things interesting.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 8:29 pm
  • Bruce Froemming is retiring but he wants to leave a lasting impression.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 8:30 pm
  • Woof. Derek rips one straight at Gutierez. 1 down. runners hold.

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:31 pm
  • The 1-1 is way outside. Larry Bowa paces the third base coach box like a panther. No, a lynx. Or an Ocelot. No, a caged marmot.
    Jeter fouls the 2-1 off to bring out the stupid towels. Deuces: low; Jeter almost lunged but held up. The payoff: fly ball to right. Duncan won’t test Gutierrez’ arm.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:31 pm
  • ABREU!!!!!
    Double down the opposite line. Duncan scores. Abreu to second. Open base for Alex, tho….

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:32 pm
  • IBB for Alex.
    Bases juiced for Jorge. GO YANKS!!!!!!!
    No wiggle room for CC here.

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:33 pm
  • Bobby doubles up the 3rd base line to plate Shelley and push Damon to third. Woot. Tribe 4, Yanks 4.
    Arod works a clutch IBB to load them for Jorge. j/k. Definitely walk ARod there.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:33 pm
  • Jeter shoulda bunted. (j/k)

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 8:33 pm
  • 4-3 rather.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:34 pm
  • CC’s PC is skyrocketing as the Froemming refuses to budge on his narrow zone right now.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:35 pm
  • Jorge K’s. Better than the grounder I suppose.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:37 pm
  • No….
    CC comes back from 3-0 to k jorge. all swinging strikes, all in the zone.

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:37 pm
  • 0-11 lifetime against CC, Matsui steps in with two away, bases juiced. Martinez saves a WP. Then a pitch low. The 2-0 is popped out to Peralta to end the Yankee 5th. Feck.

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:39 pm
  • Checking out folks. Gotta go pick up friends at the airport.
    GO YANKEES!

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:39 pm
  • F*CK.
    Matsui pops the 2-0 to short.
    There you have it so far. Matsui goes out with 2 outs bases loaded for the Yanks. Lofton got the single through the infield.
    Gotta think CC is chased, though. If the Yanks can hold back Cleveland they’ve got a fair enough chance to put a couple over before this thing ends.

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:40 pm
  • A few things about that inning:
    1)Great move by Torre with Duncan
    2)Great Pitching by CC
    3)Wang needs to put up a zero in the bottom 5th

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 8:42 pm
  • CC is at what, 110 pitches? He’s gotta be out after this inning…What do we know about Tribe’s middle relief?

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 8:42 pm
  • guidry to the phone.

    sf rod October 4, 2007, 8:44 pm
  • leadoff walk for cabrera. really not ideal to put a runner on as a freebie with the heart of the order coming up. Feh.

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:45 pm
  • is 9 feet really that significant? why is that graphic over at first?

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 8:45 pm
  • > What do we know about Tribe’s middle relief?
    We know that normally they don’t need it when CC starts.
    Also they have one of the best setup guys in the game in Rafael Betancourt, not to mention Perez, Lewis, Mastny… Stong pen.
    Now another dinger. And now, I leave. @#(*$&(

    attackgerbil October 4, 2007, 8:47 pm
  • Ugh. The indignity. Craig Sager and a 2 run homer for Vmart. Hanger right over the plate.
    That’s why we don’t walk the leadoff man!
    Jorge ks with bases jacked.
    Vmart homers.
    F*ck.

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:48 pm
  • has anyone noticed how biased these broadcasters are? Cano and Abreu get big hits and they dont care but when the indians do something great they go crazy.

    Anonymous October 4, 2007, 8:49 pm
  • 9 feet = 1/10th the way to 2nd base?
    I’m not saying this is significant, but it might be why TBS thinks we think it’s important. Well, that and they’re mimicking Fox’s infatuation with pointless graphics.

    FenSheaParkway October 4, 2007, 8:49 pm
  • Yanks really shot themselves in the foot this game. They had a shot to move ahead. Blow it. And now cough up more than they got.

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:50 pm
  • lofton has to be wangs last batter any way you slice it.

    sf rod October 4, 2007, 8:52 pm
  • Nothing warms my heart more than hearing the “Yankees suck” cheer in a town other than Boston.
    FenShea, I’m just as confused as you are. Why is 9 feet significant?
    Peralta scores on the Lofton single.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 8:52 pm
  • not pleased

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:52 pm
  • Goddamnit, I hate these mindless cockroach TBS announcers. They’re orgasming over the Indians and catatonic for the Yankees.

    doug YF October 4, 2007, 8:53 pm
  • Wang never had it today and the Yanks haven’t hit with 1 or 2 outs. Matsui continues his post-season dominance.

    Anonymous October 4, 2007, 8:53 pm
  • ANOTHER rbi single for lofton. 7-3 now and approaching out of reach territory.
    Wang chased.
    Ohlendorf in. Wow. Kid’s been great in non-pressure situations thus far, but this is right into the fryer. Love it.
    I think the announcers are just mimicking the crowd, a bit. not a lot to cheer for here for nyy.

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:54 pm
  • Ohlendorf in.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 8:54 pm
  • I didn’t know that a mouthbreathing herd mentality warms the hearts of guys like Atheose. It’s just like monkey see, monkey do.

    doug YF October 4, 2007, 8:54 pm
  • Greg Nettles currently keeps busy babysitting. Heh.

    Tyrel SF October 4, 2007, 8:54 pm
  • And tbs loses their audio feed. MORE LIKE THIS PLEASE!

    YF October 4, 2007, 8:55 pm
  • Ohlendorf only has 6IP all season? Let’s see if he can keep his cool here in the playoffs.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 8:56 pm
  • THAT’S WHY YOU TRADE FOR A GUY LIKE BECKETT! TONIGHT IS A FINE EXAMPLE OF WHY YOU NEED A DOMINANT #1.
    Why wasn’t Jeter bunting? That’s a load of confidence that short changed us a run.
    Back to the game.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 8:56 pm
  • Neither of the aces has been ace-like. However, CC has limited the damage, whereas CMW….urgh.
    As I said before, I don’t hear “____ suck” for anyone besides Yanks or Boston when Sox are in NY. I just don’t get it. Surely “Let’s go Tribe!” supports your team better?.. Le sigh.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 8:56 pm
  • At the least, if we were going to lose a game, now would be the best time.

    doug YF October 4, 2007, 8:57 pm
  • When that mouth-breathing herd mentality decides to turn on the Yankees, I don’t care who is doing it. If the Angels fans were cheering “Red Sox suck” you’re saying you wouldn’t smile?
    3-2 count to Casey.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 8:58 pm
  • Heeeeyyy, there’s no need to insult monkeys, OK?

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 8:58 pm
  • Ohlendorf struggling, not his fault since he’s a rookie. I shudder to think of Delcarmen pitching in a tight situation.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 8:59 pm
  • Ok I am done keeping score, 9-3 seems a good enough time to put that to a halt.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:02 pm
  • //Nothing warms my heart more than hearing the “Yankees suck” cheer in a town other than Boston.//
    I forget who told the story, but there’s that great one about the guy who is in a bar in some former Eastern Bloc country. When he mentions that he’s from Boston, the bartender pauses, then says in a heavy accent: “Yankees suck.”

    Anonymous October 4, 2007, 9:03 pm
  • my guess is, this isn’t gonna help ohlendorfs progression. at least he’s a 25 yo rookie and might have the ability to brush this off.

    sf rod October 4, 2007, 9:03 pm
  • Ugh, the Yanks game starts at 5:00 tomorrow? that’s a horrible time–most people get off work then. I’ll miss the first 2 innings in traffic!
    Though I would rather it be the Yanks game than the Sox one.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 9:04 pm
  • To elaborate on what I said a few seconds ago…
    All day today and yesterday I had to read about how Beckett isn’t very good, he’s just good, etc. Josh Beckett, being a POWER pitcher and a dominant POWER pitcher was able to shut down the Angels and keep his team in the game at all times. I have never been a Wang fan and never will be. This is the wrong time to collapse!

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:05 pm
  • Anon, I’ve heard that story too. Great stuff–I would laugh even if it was the opposite (“I’m from New York”, “Red Sox suck”)

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 9:09 pm
  • Good call Trisk. I respect Wang a lot because he is a great pitcher, but I hate his style. After seeing Nolan Ryan pitch in Texas for several years, the strikeout pitcher is the only type of pitcher I care about.
    I feel bad for Wang though. He looked really sad coming off the mound.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 9:10 pm
  • I am guessing the announcers aren’t biased, they are just soft-brained and easily influenced by the hometown energy. I imagine if they were in Yankee Stadium or Fenway Park and the Yanks or Sox were doing well they’d be similarly excited for the home squad.
    This isn’t an excuse for them, hardly, but more of a criticism.

    SF October 4, 2007, 9:11 pm
  • Question to this blog:
    Does this game remove Wang from any CY consideration?
    LOL

    BostonRAW October 4, 2007, 9:12 pm
  • Go away, RAW. Please?

    SF October 4, 2007, 9:13 pm
  • Thanks for showing off your knowledge, wiseass. they already voted for Cy Young? Go bother some other blog, you are unwanted around here.

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 9:14 pm
  • But.. but.. but.. I read here that Wang was a shoo-in. WTF ever happened?

    BostonRAW October 4, 2007, 9:14 pm
  • BRAW, no one takes anything you say seriously. Put your floppy shoes back on and leave.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 9:15 pm
  • UPDATE, 9:04 p.m.: Well, now it’s over. Cleveland has two great set-up guys in Betancourt and Perez. Even Joe Borowski won’t screw this up.
    It’s a shame, too. If I told you before the game that the Yankees would score three runs and knock Sabathia out of the game after five innings, you all would have signed up.
    Instead he gets an ugly win and Wang an even uglier loss.

    Pete Abe, with four innings left to play in the game. Is he a beat writer or just a fan with a blog? This sounds like something I would type.

    SF October 4, 2007, 9:16 pm
  • whatever the reason the play-by-play announcer is in no way even keel for this game. Big moments for the indians have been full of excitement and barely a raised voice for big yankee moments.

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 9:17 pm
  • Cal and Tom Colicchio are dead ringers.

    SF October 4, 2007, 9:17 pm
  • whatever the reason the play-by-play announcer is in no way even keel for this game. Big moments for the indians have been full of excitement and barely a raised voice for big yankee moments.
    Again, I think this is because they aren’t good, not because they are biased. They are just easily influenced and weak with regards to the emotions of the game.

    SF October 4, 2007, 9:18 pm
  • Dude, after reading for the past week how NY pitching is so great (six quality starters, you know) and how the team may sweep Cleveland, is it so bad for me to comment on what should really be expected from them?
    I think not.

    BostonRAW October 4, 2007, 9:20 pm
  • SF that may be the case but when you are on the losing side it sucks!

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 9:21 pm
  • suckmonitor- PA quit on this team at least 30 times this year. you were more around 15.

    sf rod October 4, 2007, 9:21 pm
  • Maybe he’s just trying a reverse jinx. Though that wouldn’t take him out of the ‘fan with a (bad) blog’ camp…

    Jackie (SF) October 4, 2007, 9:22 pm
  • The thing is that the Yankees really need to split. Not a good start to the series so far, but the goal in these two games should be to win one. Two would be superb, obviously, but one win would be a very, very good outcome.
    For me, the Sox haven’t done their job well unless they win tomorrow. A split at home would be adding to their workload. The Yankees can still emerge from Cleveland with a big advantage, and right now I imagine that is somewhat lost in this smackdown.

    SF October 4, 2007, 9:22 pm
  • OK Im out. Sox trolls may have the thread, Im sure there will be much gloating over this loss by them.

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 9:24 pm
  • Maybe he’s just trying a reverse jinx. Though that wouldn’t take him out of the ‘fan with a (bad) blog’ camp…
    Hey, this blog is the scene of many a reverse-jinx. Are we a “bad blog”!?
    ;-)

    SF October 4, 2007, 9:24 pm
  • couldn’t agree more. All the Yanks need is a split… the Indians would do well not to get cocky either.

    Ed October 4, 2007, 9:25 pm
  • No, Sam, not from me. See my comment right above yours. No gloating, no way. It’s one game.

    SF October 4, 2007, 9:25 pm
  • couldn’t agree more. All the Yanks need is a split… the Indians would do well not to get cocky either.

    Ed October 4, 2007, 9:25 pm
  • You are hardly a sox troll, SF. I agree with your sentiment. Im referring to others.

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 9:26 pm
  • Sam, been watching the game, haven’t gotten into blogging all that much tonight. The Yanks just didn’t take advantage of some of the situations in the game.
    One game is not the series.

    rob October 4, 2007, 9:26 pm
  • Aside from a couple of small things, this has been a remarkably civil couple of days and threads. YFs and SFs getting along…cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria!!!

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 9:27 pm
  • I’ve made this comment in the past before. Usually when the Yanks lose a game badly (i.e. embarrassed, poor play) they tend to come out and slaughter people. look back at the blowouts over the past few seasons and it usually does not bode well for theie opponents.

    rob October 4, 2007, 9:28 pm
  • I have the best wife in the world…Once she saw they were losing she went out and got be some wings and beer. Sure that sounds normal…She’s 8 months pregnant! It’s only a game.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:29 pm
  • Wow. Cleveland is sure making a statement to all those Bronx residents who believed shoddy pitching be damned, their team would still win the series. My gosh, they seem pissed!

    BostonRAW October 4, 2007, 9:30 pm
  • Trisk…pickle dipping sauce?

    rob October 4, 2007, 9:30 pm
  • If the yanks lose tommorow, Cleveland’s got a shot, same with the angels, they go back to anaheim down two… But I really do think Cleveland better not get cocky or they’ll lose the next three straight

    Ed October 4, 2007, 9:30 pm
  • Wow, Trisk, that’s pretty awesome. I sure wouldn’t be getting anyone any beers if I were 8 months pregnant :)
    In other news that no one is sure to care about, the hockey season has begun!

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 9:31 pm
  • Atheose, I couldn’t agree more. I hate relying on a pitcher that needs a certain pitch to “work” in order to be sucessful. How many of those sliders were left belt high and above? How many batters had base hits with 2 strikes? (I kept score, I know the answer)
    Part II. If you can’t strike people out and you can’t get your magic pitch to “work” you are in trouble.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:32 pm
  • Pettitte is really going to need to get through six, minimum, tomorrow. If the Indians can drive his count up early, then the Yanks’ middle of the pen is going to be spent early in this series, though I am not sure that really matters. The back end is rested, obviously.
    It will be interesting to see how Carmona deals with the pressure of Game 2, what with the potential to give the Indians as much of a lockdown as one could ask for heading to New York.

    SF October 4, 2007, 9:33 pm
  • Your Yanks have no shot against decent pitching. That’s been proven all year long.
    Accept 0-2, and back home. Once there, they may win a game, maybe two. But this series is definitely going to the better team – Cleveland (not that I want it to).

    BostonRAW October 4, 2007, 9:33 pm
  • Not at all, SF – quite on the contrary. It was a commentary on him alone. :)

    Jackie (SF) October 4, 2007, 9:33 pm
  • No Rob, just plain old Blue Cheese, LOL. Yeah I am truly blessed, if not for her I would have put my fist through the 55 inch TV.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:34 pm
  • Who is that blonde TBS keeps showing in the crowd? She is shown everytime the Indians do something. Did she hook up with the producer or somethin’?

    bapple October 4, 2007, 9:36 pm
  • BRAW – two words:
    piss off
    Additionally, what goes around, comes around. Karma is a bitch, pal

    rz-yf October 4, 2007, 9:36 pm
  • honestly this could not suck more. and to cap it, my computer conked out. back now, but it seems like it’s allergic to yankee blowout losses. go figure.

    YF October 4, 2007, 9:37 pm
  • I don’t know SF, so far it’s been Ohlendorf and Veras. They are doing what I imagine Joe put them on this roster for, eating some garbage innings. Don’t forget they have off Saturday, so whoever goes Friday can also go Sunday.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:37 pm
  • The only thing keeping me smiling is knowing I Tivo’d the Office, so as soon as this debacle is over it’s Office time!
    Side note, I can only record 2 things at once, so I didn’t get to record Survivor. Did anyone watch? If so who got the boot?

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:39 pm
  • Wow, another K (8 on the night).
    Kind of funny how good pitching always one-ups good offense, especially in a playoff series.
    Bye-bye, Yanks!

    BostonRAW October 4, 2007, 9:39 pm
  • Classy Red Sux trolls over at Lohud,,,,
    Hughes5.50
    October 4th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
    Nice Ace you got there. Going home early wild card losers.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Marc YF October 4, 2007, 9:40 pm
  • you know what BRAW, youre right. lets end the ALDS now and make it sox vs. cleveland in the ALCS. Winning the first game of a series is all that matters. Dont you have some homework to do? Algebra homework?

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 9:41 pm
  • I’d rather not face Cleveland. They have a few pitchers that scare people.

    BostonRAW October 4, 2007, 9:42 pm
  • And more for entertainment,,,
    CHIEN MING CHOKE
    October 4th, 2007 at 9:28 pm
    HIS NAME IS ohlenDORK! GET IT RIGHT, GUYS!
    Where do these kids come from, LOL.

    Marc YF October 4, 2007, 9:42 pm
  • Ignore B-Raw, he’s a moron guys, let him go.
    Not sure who the Bronco fan is here, maybe Brad? But reports are that Travis Henry is going to be suspended for a year for testing positive for Marijuana.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:43 pm
  • New prediction:
    Hughes walks 5 before he is yanked.
    Mark it

    BostonRAW October 4, 2007, 9:43 pm
  • Trisk, it was Leslie “Sister Christian.”

    rob October 4, 2007, 9:43 pm
  • trisk: my awesome wife made dinner and put the kid to bed. and i wont say we havent been watching a little of “the office” between innings……and maybe also during innings.

    YF October 4, 2007, 9:43 pm
  • No details YF!!! I hear “Temp” is back this week, I can’t wait!

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:45 pm
  • Someone here must own this kid, can you kindly put him to bed,,,
    CHIEN MING CHOKE
    October 4th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
    CHIEN MING WANG IS A CHOKER EVEN IN HIS PRESS CONFERENCE! HE WAS CLEARLY NERVOUS AND UNCOMFORTABLE! WHAT KIND OF CRAP IS THAT? YOU KNEW HES GONNA CHOKE BIG TIME WHEN ITS GAME TIME! GO MARRY MATSUI AND LEAVE FOR CHINA, CHOKERS!
    2009- SANTANA, PEAVY, SABATHIA, CHAMBERLAIN, HUGHES

    Marc YF October 4, 2007, 9:45 pm
  • I have a hard time accepting lectures on classiness from a guy who uses “Red Sux”. Insult the team, fine, but at least be clever about it.

    Jackie (SF) October 4, 2007, 9:47 pm
  • “…Your Yanks have no shot against decent pitching. That’s been proven all year long…”
    uh really, b.raw?…i thought your sox had decent pitching…in fact i’ve said so a few times…seems to me the yanks did ok against them…
    for the more serious commenters: while i’m a discouraged yf right now with what appears to be more of the same post-season funk, i agree with those of you who are saying that it’s one game…not like it’s the first time the yanks have been humbled in a particular game by a team who can’t seem to do anything wrong…it’s compounded by the yanks malaise…but, they’ve bounced back before [fingers crossed]

    dc October 4, 2007, 9:47 pm
  • what’s up with matsui? He looked lost tonight, how bad is his knee?

    Ed October 4, 2007, 9:48 pm
  • The funny thing about that DC is Sabathia didn’t pitch all that well. I know you watched, so you know, but 80 plus pitches through 4? He kept his team in the game and did his job, but he was far from dominant. Let the dope talk.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:50 pm
  • Ed, Sabathia threw started him 0-2 both times. Not sure why he would let that happen twice, especially being down. You are 100% right, he doesn’t look comfortable.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:51 pm
  • Oh please, DC. The SOX just wanted, needed, your Yanks to provide some competition to insure they didn’t go to sleep before the playoffs. Nothing wrong with that, even if it did cost a few pitchers their stats.

    BostonRAW October 4, 2007, 9:51 pm
  • I think it’s his knee. Even as a Sox fan i’ve always admired Matsui’s blue collar show up for work attitude, he looks like he’s out of sorts and I wonder how bad it is.

    Ed October 4, 2007, 9:52 pm
  • good point trisk…i have watched most of the game and sabathia seemed to have more escapes than houdini, helped out by some good defense, and untimely yank hitting…i heard at one point they were 1 for 6 with RISP….ugh

    dc October 4, 2007, 9:52 pm
  • BostonRAW: thou shalt stop gloating for thy words shall curse Boston tommorow night…
    A-Rod bomb… ???

    Ed October 4, 2007, 9:53 pm
  • Sabathia was piss poor tonight, no command whatsoever… he was very lucky in multiple binds and Wang was bad enough so it’ll be overlooked, bottom line, C.C. was very vulnerable tonight

    Ed October 4, 2007, 9:55 pm
  • I know the score is 11-3, and it wouldn’t have mattered but Torre not bunting Jeter with runners on 1st and 2nd no outs really upsets me. Nobody respects DJ more then me, but it’s the ideal spot to get it down, move them over and let Abreu and Alex go to work. Cost us 1 run.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:55 pm
  • and we all know that people who are the HOF dont make outs.
    When can we IP ban this guy?

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 9:56 pm
  • couldn’t agree more Trisk. My dad’s a yankee fan (fun times with the sox-yankee son-dad rivalry) and he was really pissed at that. Who’s to say it wouldn’t have knocked sabathia out?
    p.s. Matsui definitely hurt

    Ed October 4, 2007, 9:56 pm
  • Does anyone else keep hearing them call Carmona a fireballer? He very well may throw hard, but his K/9 is 5.5, not exactly Nolan Ryan-esque.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:57 pm
  • I was under the impression he was a sinker baller and gets lots of ground outs

    Ed October 4, 2007, 9:57 pm
  • BostonRAW you are annoying as shit, stop trolling.

    no sleep til brooklyn SF October 4, 2007, 9:58 pm
  • The bigger embarassment was when they said the Tribe’s closer was a tremendous success: the guys has an 5.00 era, and yes he has many saves but also a lot of blown ones… he’s shit, in otherwords

    Ed October 4, 2007, 9:58 pm
  • He surely is Ed, that’s why I can’t understand why they keep calling him a “Fireballer.”

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 9:59 pm
  • I posted NJ’s own Joe Borowski (also a former Yankee) numbers the other day. I believe he has 8 blown saves. ERA over 5. He’s K’s per 9 aren’t awful, but he is no Papelbon or Rivera.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 10:00 pm
  • please?

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 10:03 pm
  • “…The SOX just wanted, needed, your Yanks…”
    that’s an interesting theory b.raw, but it does sound like you think some games may have been thrown, and that crazy notion seems ok with you…wow…let me guess who your favorite football team is…but more importantly, if they were going to go to all that trouble, why do you supposed they wanted/needed the yanks, a team their fanbase is not fond of, and not toronto or tampa bay or baltimore [or anybody else for that matter] ?…

    dc October 4, 2007, 10:04 pm
  • please note yf’s….sf regular posters comments become less frequent as braw continues to prod. fight the urge.

    sf rod October 4, 2007, 10:06 pm
  • Goodnight fellas. Tomorrow is another day.
    Thanks for the SF’s for being real cool tonight. You could have been total d*cks and you weren’t. See you all tomorrow.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 10:07 pm
  • Should have read…
    Thanks to the…

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 10:07 pm
  • BRAW is ruining this blog. Nobody on either side likes him and every times he turns up the threads degrade rapidly.
    Please ban him!!!

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 10:07 pm
  • I second the motion.

    Tom sf October 4, 2007, 10:08 pm
  • bye, RAW.

    SF October 4, 2007, 10:09 pm
  • Sam, relax. You are 100% right. Focus on Hughes velocity and how it is back up to 93, that’s something to smile about during this a** whoppin.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 10:09 pm
  • braw is banned. we’re just erasing his comments, so don’t bother responding to them.

    YF October 4, 2007, 10:09 pm
  • you guys are right…i’ll resist further urges to poke at him…it seems to just give him energy…so, i’m out for the night…see you all tomorrow…

    dc October 4, 2007, 10:09 pm
  • Thanks guys.

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 10:10 pm
  • no prob Trisk… I fear the sox are in for a tough one tommorow night with Dice-K on the mound

    Ed October 4, 2007, 10:10 pm
  • This is just one freaking game. I wish this was game 5, but the Indians realistically had to win this game to have a shot in this series.

    Tom sf October 4, 2007, 10:11 pm
  • I third the notion.

    no sleep til brooklyn SF October 4, 2007, 10:12 pm
  • That’s part of what makes this place so great Marc, a very small % of the Sox fans here are d*cks, if any. I respect Pete Abe, but I have no interest in blogging over there, way too emotional, just not my style.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 10:12 pm
  • I was personally very happy with the mostly disciplined ABs that the yanks had early in the game. I hope they can keep in up and not start pressing tomorrow. When they press they start to get worse and worse. We saw it this season and the last few post-seasons. Tomorrow should be interesting, I still wonder why Joe started Wang tonite over Andy. Guess we will never know what could have been.

    Sam-YF October 4, 2007, 10:14 pm
  • Question: If this series goes 5 games (at this point that’s doubtful) does Wedge go back to Sabathia on short rest after throwing 115+ pitches? I really think that’s a tough call, if not you get Old School Paul Byrd.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 10:14 pm
  • Heh. I was a sox fan before that douchebag was ever in his father’s testicle.

    Tom sf October 4, 2007, 10:15 pm
  • Sorry, I meant to say 4 games!

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 10:15 pm
  • Ooooh I come back to see BRAW sleeps with the fishes. Thanks, guys!

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 10:17 pm
  • I do like it there John, but we get an incredible amount od RS trolls over there that don’t discuss or debate. I posted some examples and since I’ve seen Hudson and several others from here I thought it was a good idea to show them.

    Marc YF October 4, 2007, 10:17 pm
  • That’s not a knock on the site, I think it’s very informative and probably a blast, I just enjoy this place a ton. Sometimes things get heated, but overall it’s rational baseball fans, talking rationally about baseball.

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 10:18 pm
  • As a SF, this game makes me nauseous. The Yankees are lots scarier after a bad loss…

    rootbeerfloat October 4, 2007, 10:19 pm
  • That’s a good point, Sam – if I were a YF I’d be fairly happy with their performance against Sabathia. I didn’t see the game, but he is undoubtedly one of the best pitchers in the AL, and to even get 3 ER off him is pretty good.
    Anyway, I think most everyone here, YF and SF alike, know better than to count out the Yanks. Particularly after just a single loss.

    Jackie (SF) October 4, 2007, 10:19 pm
  • Did you guys hear the TBS announcer say “Kaz Matsui” instead of “Hideki”? He never even corrected himself.
    Pathetic.

    Atheose October 4, 2007, 10:19 pm
  • At first, I was irked to see Hughes in there. But, it’s probably better to let him get acclimated to the relief role in a blowout where there’s no pressure. He should be OK for the Clemens start Sunday after just 2 innings tonight.
    Let’s go Andy. Tomorrow is another day!

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 10:20 pm
  • Didn’t I read that BRAW’s been banned? Why is he still posting? Or was that just a cruel tease?

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 10:21 pm
  • Goodnight all!

    John - YF (Trisk) October 4, 2007, 10:22 pm
  • Why is Wedge using all of his good relievers in a blowout with another game tomorrow? Not that I’m complaining but…

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 10:24 pm
  • In the news, Sox fan assaulted in Yonkers by a couple Yanks fans from Pennsylvania.
    http://tinyurl.com/2c9ztr
    I blame BRAW.

    Tyrel SF October 4, 2007, 10:27 pm
  • ANDY PETTITE.
    Andy’s always great after a loss. I would have loved to see a win tonight, but in the Torre era we’ve done better in most playoffs after losing the first game.

    Marc YF October 4, 2007, 10:28 pm
  • The ban technology isn’t ideal. so please just ignore until we get there to erase the messages.

    YF October 4, 2007, 10:31 pm
  • YF?

    Marc YF October 4, 2007, 10:33 pm
  • Relax Marc, he’s not talking about you.

    Tyrel SF October 4, 2007, 10:37 pm
  • I didn’t think so Tyrel, I just didn’t see any posts that bad. Maybe Boston Raw, lol.

    Marc YF October 4, 2007, 10:42 pm
  • It was a cumulative thing, Marc. I think. I’m sort of irregular around here, so I haven’t followed the train wreck too closely. I usually just don’t read him.

    Tyrel SF October 4, 2007, 10:48 pm
  • OK, I’ve always been a tolerant person and I’ve held back for a long time and I know I shouldn’t let loose now, but-
    BRAW: Get f*cking lost! You’re ruining it for everyone here, YFs and SFs alike. There’s not a single person here who enjoys your tripe. So either grow up, or go troll somewhere else.
    Sorry. I’ll ignore him from now on. Just needed to vent.

    yankeemonkey October 4, 2007, 10:50 pm
  • We’ve dealt with fools like him before. Everyone should know the drill. Ignore any comments from him, and if we’re slow to delte, drop us a line and make sure we know about them.
    In fact, other than him, these last two days have been just great conversation here. That’s a credit to everyone, regulars and newcomers alike. Thanks!

    Paul SF October 4, 2007, 10:54 pm
  • stupid stupid stupid comments… if the yanks lose tommorow, yes they’re in trouble… if the sox don’t win tommorow, they’re in for a fight… one game is one game is one game fellas… good night all

    Ed October 4, 2007, 11:10 pm
  • I think I might have to revise my DBacks-Cubs prediction….When I said Cubs in 4, I think I meant Snakes in 3.

    yankeemonkey October 5, 2007, 12:06 am
  • Yeah, Lou Piniella’s going to be earing crow in Chicago alllll offseason long at this point.

    Paul SF October 5, 2007, 12:10 am
  • Yanking Zambrano last night may have cost them the series. Funny how we always carp on our managers, but really, there’s not a single guy out there who doesn’t make a stupid mistake every once in a while.

    yankeemonkey October 5, 2007, 12:16 am
  • I can’t imagine Francona or Torre making such a terrible move though. It’s Little-esque.

    Paul SF October 5, 2007, 12:26 am
  • Ooohhh a safety squeeze! Or was that a suicide squeeze?
    How many people in attendance there are actually DBack fans? Seems like the place has gone dead after the home team scored.
    And really, a jab at Rex Grossman? Was that necessary? The dude is probably in witness protection as it is…Picking on him here is just mean.

    yankeemonkey October 5, 2007, 12:33 am
  • Am I the only one who thinks the “pulling Zambrano” is an overblown story? The Cubs scored only one run. They got one baserunner over two innings against the pitchers that came in behind Brandon Webb (Brandon Lyon, Jose Valverde). It wasn’t like Zambrano was winning the game. It was tied, and the Cubs’ offense was pretty f’in impotent last night and probably would’ve been whether he had remained in the game or not.
    I’m not saying it was a smart move, but it’s getting way too much of the focus. The real reason it was bad is because it prevented Zamrano (owner of their only XBH on the night) from batting again.

    QuoSF October 5, 2007, 12:58 am
  • To me, it was a terrible move on principle. The fact that the bats couldn’t get anything going is incidental. But that’s just my opinion…

    Paul SF October 5, 2007, 1:01 am
  • Yeah, on principle, sure. But I mean, when the Cubs lose this series (and maybe it’s me, but I feel like the NLCS matchup is all but decided now, unfortunately for Fox and ESPN I suppose), it’s going to be pointed to as the reason they lost the series.
    Just doesn’t seem right to me. It’s not a smart move, I’d have given him at least another inning, but if your team isn’t hitting, you’re not going to win anyway.

    Anonymous October 5, 2007, 1:16 am
  • Preview is my friend. That was me.

    QuoSF October 5, 2007, 1:16 am
  • Well…I went to bed after 7 because I was so pissed. Now that I have slept it off and am leaving work early (central time here, game starts @ 4pm) to go watch the game I feel much better. The Yankees HAVE to play better than that. Hell, they won the first game of the ALDS the last two years and we all know how that turned out. Perhaps this was the bitch slap the boys needed to wake them up and remind them that this is the PLAYOFFS!!! No more second chances. Our pitching sucks for sure but if anyone can come in and pitch a great game tonight it’s Andy. Think positive thoughts and LET’S GO YANKEES!!!!

    krueg October 5, 2007, 8:39 am
  • Trisk,
    are you serious?
    UGHHHHHHHHH…………..
    Well, I guess weed is not as bad as steroids. ugh. What a freaking idiot if that’s true.

    Brad October 5, 2007, 9:24 am
  • Selvin Young will be just fine Brad. He’s got a good burst and looked good last week. Anyone can run in that system, remember Mike Anderson? Rueben Droughns? Only bad part is the signed Henry to a 5 year deal, good thing it’s not baseball!

    John - YF (Trisk) October 5, 2007, 9:28 am
  • p.s. trade whomever the Twins want for Santana…the Yankees need a TRUE, DOMINANT Ace!

    krueg October 5, 2007, 10:12 am
  • “Whomever”? You would trade Joba Chamberlain + Phil Hughes + Tabata for Santana?

    yankeemonkey October 5, 2007, 10:36 am
  • Well, that was discouraging. Mostly because we had CC on the ropes and even a decent start from Wang wouid have put us in a position to get the win. He looked more like Kei Igawa than CMW, however.
    Ah well, we’ll still have a shot at the road split we need. It does have me preturbed as to Wang’s status for the rest of the postseason (if we get there) though.

    Mark (YF) October 5, 2007, 11:16 am
  • He looked more like Kei Igawa than CMW, however.
    Actually, Igawa is at least moderately capable of getting himself out of trouble when he needs to.:)

    Brad October 5, 2007, 11:21 am
  • I agree Trisk…
    I’ve argued for Selvin Young to get more carries this year anyhow. I’m not extremely upset over this. I do think Young is better suited to run in that system..less fumbles and faster moves. He’ll be fine. In fact, I just dropped Dunn for him. ha.

    Brad October 5, 2007, 11:23 am
  • How chapped are Mets’ fans asses right now? The Phillies make this tremendous run, the Mets fold like tents, and now the Phillies look to be sent packing in like 12 minutes, by KAZ MATSUI no less.

    SF October 5, 2007, 12:01 pm
  • monkey: i should have qualified the statement, no, not Joba. But Hughes/Kennedy and Melky…absolutely.

    krueg October 5, 2007, 1:00 pm
  • I can’t garner too much sympathy for Mets fans, but after watching last night’s Cubs loss, I’m feeling pretty bad for my best buddy, who has wasted devoted his life rooting for the north siders.
    And if Arizona somehow goes on to win it all, and that giraffe gets yet another ring, then we’ll talk chapped.

    attackgerbil October 5, 2007, 1:31 pm
  • “How chapped are Mets’ fans asses right now? The Phillies make this tremendous run, the Mets fold like tents, and now the Phillies look to be sent packing in like 12 minutes, by KAZ MATSUI no less.”
    I called it! From my series preview:
    “And keeping with the theme of the later part of the season, Kaz Matsui is sure to shine as Mets fans watch in disbelief.”
    I’m brilliant!!!

    Nick-YF October 5, 2007, 3:54 pm

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