Cure for What Ails Ya: Sox-M’s Gamer II

It cannot be easy being a Seattle Mariners fan right now. Consider this screed from Seattle Times columnist Larry Stone, written for yesterday’s newspaper:

The Red Sox are coming to town tonight, always an event. They’ll be easy to pick out at Safeco Field: They’re the good team.

That’s the kind of statement jinxes are made of, yet last night, the Red Sox managed to pour it on late against Felix Hernandez — thanks in large part to the cruddy managing of John McLaren, who left Hernandez in despite having obviously lost all pretense of command late in the game.The M’s rallied, improbably, against Jonathan Papelbon, and the run or two McLaren might have saved by bringing in the bullpen a couple batters earlier in the eighth loomed large indeed.


It’s really a great time for the Sox to be facing the Mariners — worst record in baseball, worst on-base percentage and ERA in the American League, giving up nearly 10 hits per game on average — considering the Sox have their own peculiar brand of troubles. They seemingly cannot lose at home, but they seemingly cannot win on the road, even though their fans try their best to make each road game feel like Fenway Park.

Daisuke Matsuzaka is a similarly conflicted pitcher: First in wins and winning percentage, third in ERA and hits-per-nine, fifth in Ks-per-nine, but first in walks allowed, third in wild pitches and a les-than-stellar 23rd in WHIP. Perhaps the free-swinging, low-OBP Mariners are just what Daisuke needs.

Hey, it worked for the Yankees, who nudged closer to respectability, thanks to Seattle. Time for that Mariner charm to go to work for the Red Sox. Comment away!

146 comments… add one
  • Cleveland just pulled off a triple steal!
    D. Dellucci stole home, G. Sizemore stole third, J. Carroll stole second

    TJ May 27, 2008, 9:18 pm
  • Youk out again tonight with a sore hand, Tito says it is not serious, x-rays negative.

    SF May 27, 2008, 9:35 pm
  • Holy crap TJ, has there ever been a triple steal before? Also, did the catcher drop the ball? According to Baseball Tonight they’re going to show us after the commercial.
    Pedroia singles to left, Ortiz up now.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 10:13 pm
    The first google entry for “Triple Steal”, though I will say I have never actually thought about it before..

    Lar May 27, 2008, 10:16 pm
  • I can’t seem to find a clip online of tonight’s feat

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 10:19 pm
  • It’s about to be on ESPN, rbf.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 10:19 pm
  • Last triple steal: The three players the Yankees got when they traded Randy Johnson back to Arizona.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 10:20 pm
  • what a waste – Papi, Manny, and Lowell all get 3-1 counts from Batista and just a walk from it, with Papi and Lowell popping up absolute meatballs. Batista had nothing that inning but the Sox don’t capitalize.
    And of course a leadoff double for Ichiro.

    SF May 27, 2008, 10:25 pm
  • Can you even name them? Haha.. though I will admit, I didn’t think the Yanks could’ve got rid of Randy at any cost, though he is pitching respectably.. and better than Hughes or Ian..

    Lar May 27, 2008, 10:25 pm
  • Good try by Daisuke to throw the runner out at 3rd, but he’s safe. Grrrrrr.
    Runners at the corners with 0 outs.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 10:27 pm
  • and now a stupid play by Dice, trying to get Ichiro at third on a sac bunt. Moronic. Free out, take it, particularly with Ichiro running to third.
    I don’t have much stomach for a late night crapfest of fundamentally atrocious baseball.

    SF May 27, 2008, 10:27 pm
  • We need a K and then double play.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 10:29 pm
  • Groundout scores a run.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 10:30 pm
  • Not to troll, but that would’ve been nice if the Yanks had done that – two ground outs to score a run.
    I actually have DMat in my fantasy league, so ya.. I guess at least he’s not walking anyone.. yet?

    Lar May 27, 2008, 10:31 pm
  • I’m on the west coast and I don’t even have patience for a night of this. Arg.

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 10:31 pm
  • Dice has thrown one mediocre pitch this inning and is down 1-0, Batista three about 12 horrid pitches and has a lead. Such is baseball.

    SF May 27, 2008, 10:31 pm
  • I thought Seattle was supposed to suck.

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 10:33 pm
  • good night, everyone. I am away on vacation and don’t have any
    patience for this shit. I need sleep way more than I need to be annoyed by 145 foot flares dropping in for run-scoring doubles.

    SF May 27, 2008, 10:33 pm
  • I really felt that given his contract, Arizona let the Yankees off the hook. Certainly he was always very good against Boston, but pretty mediocre otherwise. … From the ESPN archive: New York would receive reliever Luis Vizcaino and minor league right-handers Ross Ohlendorf and Steven Jackson, and shortstop Alberto Gonzalez, a baseball official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. The Yankees also would pay $2 million of Johnson’s $16 million salary this year. …
    Viz was mediocre at best last year, Ohlendorf and Gonzalez are pretty much pulling their weight. I know nothing about Jackson.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 10:34 pm
  • rbf, Seattle does suck. That’s what’s so humiliating about this.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 10:35 pm
  • Well, at least Dice-K hasn’t walked anyone.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 10:36 pm
  • Is it me or is this game slower than molasses?

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 10:37 pm
  • 40 minutes for 1 inning. Game is definitely slow.
    Hopefully Daisuke is in the groove now, after striking out 2 to end the inning.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 10:40 pm
  • bag of shit pitcher throws 10 pitches in the inning.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 10:44 pm
  • At least Dice-K gets a 1-pitch out to start off the 2nd.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 10:46 pm
  • Hey, Manny made a nice play!
    3 pitches, 2 down.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 10:46 pm
  • 7 pitch inning. Excellent.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 10:48 pm
  • 8 pitches for Dice-K.
    That’s more like it.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 10:49 pm
  • Sure, I walk out of the room and everything turns around.

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 10:50 pm
  • Texas gets 5 RBIs from Hamilton and 3 RBIs from someone named Boggs to beat Tampa, 12-6. First place within our grasp.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 10:51 pm
  • That would be outfielder Brandon Boggs, whom I’m pretty sure is not related to Wade Boggs, former guest star of “Cheers.” …

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 10:53 pm
  • Where’s Ellsbury tonight?

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 10:53 pm
  • WTF happened to speeding up the games? This guy is ridiculous.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 10:56 pm
  • Ellsbury’s sitting, letting Coco get some play.
    Ellsbury lines out, two down. Come on Papi, give us another homer.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 10:57 pm
  • Wow I think that’s the strongest swing I’ve ever seen Ortiz make. Too bad it didn’t hit the ball.
    Hey, the rain delay in Baltimore is over!

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 10:59 pm
  • Crap. Didn’t Dice-K own his ass last year?

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:02 pm
  • Millar has 2 HR for Balt. …
    Lester share AL POW honor with Mags. So I guess a no-hitter isn’t good enough to get you the award by yourself.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:05 pm
  • Only in the first game, Bill. After that Ichiro owned him.
    Ichiro steals 2nd.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:05 pm
  • Damnit Mr. Niceguy makes an error at first. Runners at the corners, could really use a DP here.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:07 pm
  • Wow, this is ugly

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 11:07 pm
  • Ath, I think Obie just said that Ichiro is now 3-14 career against Dice-K.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:07 pm
  • HOLY SHIT amazing play by Pedroia! The run still scores, but that was awesome.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:08 pm
  • Oh really? My bad, Bill. For some reason I remember Ichiro doing really well against him last year after going 0-4 in the first game.
    Lineout ends the inning, 3-0 M’s.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:09 pm
  • Was that a routing play or a God Bless Coco moment?

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 11:10 pm
  • We’re an hour into this game and Dice-K hasn’t walked anyone yet. I guess that stands for something.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:11 pm
  • Now, I caught that in passing, Ath. So I’m not putting $ on it.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:12 pm
  • Here we go again. Three pitches, 2 outs….
    Hey, guys. did you notice that this guy has a freakin’ 6+ ERA?

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:13 pm
  • 8-pitch inning for Batista. Grrrrrrr.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:14 pm
  • It was pretty routine, RBF. At least routine for Coco.
    GOD BLESS COCO! There, I said it!

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:16 pm
  • Announcer on Manny: “I doubt he thinks far enough ahead to purposefully show anybody up. I think he’s like a kid.”
    Exactly how I feel.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:19 pm
  • GRRR infield single up the middle.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:22 pm
  • What was Manny doing to earn that analysis?

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 11:24 pm
  • Good snag by Dice-K to end the inning. 65 pitches through four innings isn’t bad for him.
    They just showed the Indians game on sportscenter, but didn’t show the triple steal. Wtf?

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:25 pm
  • Manny was just standing around, and they felt like talking about him.
    Announcer: “Batista is working on a 1-hitter.” The jynx is official, time for the bats to break out.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:26 pm
  • The Sox have 1 hit and no runs off a guy with a 5.98 ERA.

    SoxFan May 27, 2008, 11:26 pm
  • If you read the wrap on, it seems like it might not have been intentional. Seems like someone got caught in a rundown but I’m not sure how that happens when your bases are loaded.

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 11:27 pm
  • Sure enough, Casey bloops a single over the 2nd baseman. Thanks for the help, announcers.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:28 pm
  • ASFsdfj;aosdifjvapsid:DGJS:dlfjs;dlfkdoubleplaylkjafdlkjnd,mnbdfg

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:29 pm
  • WHAT THE HELL? Daisuke injured, pulled from the game. Fuck me.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:31 pm
  • Can you tell what’s wrong with him???

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 11:32 pm
  • I’m freaking out.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:33 pm
  • Joe and Dave said he was holding his right hip.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:33 pm
  • Looked like it was something wrong with his back. He threw two warmup pitches, then called for the trainer. They didn’t talk much, and pulled him almost immediately.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:34 pm
  • It might have been his hip Bill, looked like his back to me though. Couldn’t tell from that inning.
    Aardsma in. He gets a first-pitch groundout, too. Nice.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:35 pm
  • Just saw the replay, it happened at the end of the 4th inning, he’s holding his hip/side. Might be an oblique.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:36 pm
  • C’mon This is Seattle. We ought to be able to beat them with the bullpen for a few innings and of few of those bats if they wake up…

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 11:39 pm
  • How far away is Buchholz from coming back?

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:40 pm
  • Balt w/ 2 on in bot 10.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:41 pm
  • Lugo just got tossed.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:42 pm
  • WHAT THE FUCK? Lugo just got thrown out of the game for no reason. Even the announcers are shocked.
    Tito out, giving him a piece of his mind. Lugo looks genuinely shocked, begging the ump to tell him why he got tossed.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:42 pm
  • Whoa. What just happened with Julio Lugo?

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 11:42 pm
  • Buchholz pitched yesterday for Pawtucket so he could go on Dice Ks next start

    TJ May 27, 2008, 11:43 pm
  • Here comes the rant ….
    I am so fucking tired of these fucking umps who insert themselves into the games for no goddam reason.
    Let the players fucking play, assholes.
    That’s complete bullshit.
    Tito tossed now.
    These goddam umps are fucking worthless.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:43 pm
  • How does a shortstop get tossed when the at-bat ends in a walk?

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 11:44 pm
  • YEAH! Tito just got himself tossed. Get your money’s worth, we love you Tito.
    Apparently Lugo said something along the lines of “Check the swing?” and the ump tossed him. Wow.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:44 pm
  • Don’t they have to give some sort of reason??

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 11:45 pm
  • Angel Hernandez has a history of goading players into an argument and tossing them for no reason. He’s a goddam high school ump. What a fucking bag of shit.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:45 pm
  • The Tito ejection was almost provoked. Tito was walking away, and had stopped talking, but the ump kept running his mouth. Wow, that was pretty crazy.
    Umps need to learn to ignore things sometimes. Lugo wasn’t showing him up or anything, and no one even knew he said anything until he got tossed.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:45 pm
  • hudson gets his wish. more AC.

    sf rod May 27, 2008, 11:47 pm
    Angel Hernandez was ranked 31st out of 36 National League umps in 1999, but was kept while 13 other umps were fired.
    In 2001 he ejected a guest singer, former Bears player Steve McMichael. Who the hell ejects special guests from games?

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:48 pm
  • Meanwhile the yanks have bases loaded with no one out in the top of the 11th

    rootbeerfloat May 27, 2008, 11:50 pm
  • He ejected the FIRST BASE COACH while umpiring 3rd base, and then took the coach’s cap and threw it into the crowd. Wierd game-time ejections? Maybe there’s some illegal gambling going on.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:50 pm
  • Ath, I would have ejected Steve McMichael just for showing up. He’s quite possibly the biggest boob in Chicago. The guy is a fucking moron.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:51 pm
  • Yeah, ARod GIDP! Two down, no runs.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:52 pm
  • MLB should implement a rule: Any umpire who engages a player or manager or coach in a shouting match should immediately be suspended for 2 games.
    There is no reason, EVER, for an umpire to engage in a shouting match with anyone. Umpires are there to maintain control. Engaging in that type of activity clearly illustrates that they have no control.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:53 pm
  • Betancourt makes an error! Pedroia on for Ortiz.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:54 pm
  • are you really talking about the yankees game in the sox gamer?
    for what its worth, the AROD dp was a great play by roberts but matsui picked them up and gave them the lead…

    Sam-YF May 27, 2008, 11:54 pm
  • MANNY!!!!!!

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:55 pm
  • Agreed, Bill. Umpires are supposed to be the quiet moderators, who make the calls in the game and go about their business quietly and respectfully. Nothing is more impressive than watching an umpire stand there with a blank expression on his face while Lou Pinella screams at him.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:56 pm
  • Hell YEAH!!!!

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:56 pm
  • 499!

    TJ May 27, 2008, 11:56 pm
  • So SUCK ON THAT!!!!

    I'mBillMcNeal May 27, 2008, 11:56 pm
  • He picked a great time to get out of his funk. Maybe he can take the lead on #500 in the 8th or 9th.

    Atheose May 27, 2008, 11:57 pm
  • o’s tie it. runner at third 1 down.

    sf rod May 28, 2008, 12:02 am
  • Aardsma walks the leadoff batter. Delcarmen warming up.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:02 am
  • O’s tie it? YES!

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:03 am
  • Aardsma gives up a single, and then Manny throws the runner out at third! Yes!

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:04 am
  • MANNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'mBillMcNeal May 28, 2008, 12:04 am
  • o’s win it.

    sf rod May 28, 2008, 12:05 am

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:05 am
  • Now THAT’s the LaTroy Hawkins I remember.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 28, 2008, 12:05 am
  • O’s win, 10-9.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 28, 2008, 12:05 am
  • HAHAHAHA! Yankees Suck!!!!

    TJ May 28, 2008, 12:07 am
  • /giggle
    Come on lil’ Manny, keep it tied.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:07 am
  • Damnit Delcarmen.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:08 am
  • big out. gotta strand the runner right there.

    sf rod May 28, 2008, 12:08 am
  • beauty grab on a smash to first. dodged a bullet there.

    sf rod May 28, 2008, 12:09 am
  • Johjima steals third? Are you kidding me?

    TJ May 28, 2008, 12:09 am
  • Line drive to Casey, who jumps up and snags it. Cairo is upset.
    Let’s get the lead boys!

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:09 am
  • OK! MDC gets out of it. Let’s go pen.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 28, 2008, 12:09 am
  • off to the bar. go sox.

    sf rod May 28, 2008, 12:11 am
  • C’mon Covelli. Pick out a good one and rip it.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 28, 2008, 12:15 am
  • Why oh why did the Sox just let Batista get through the inning on NINE pitches? Why oh why did Cora and Crisp go up free-swinging?

    stuck working May 28, 2008, 12:17 am
  • Manny gives up a double. Sooo close to ending the inning.
    We need Oki to come in for 1.1 innings.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:23 am
  • Or we can leave Delcarmen in here. That’s okay too.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:23 am
  • Hansen, Lopez up in the pen.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 28, 2008, 12:25 am
  • yes

    I'mBillMcNeal May 28, 2008, 12:25 am
  • Inning over, good play by Cora. Oki and Paps should finish things out, assuming we get a run.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:28 am
  • Ortiz singles! Two on for Manny.
    Dejavu. Come on Manny, #500 right here. Or a single, that’d be cool too.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:32 am
  • Wow Manny K’s swinging hard. And the crowd and announcers act like they just won the world series. Heh.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:37 am
  • Morrow goes up and in on Manny. Having a Farnsworth moment, perhaps?

    I'mBillMcNeal May 28, 2008, 12:38 am
  • Really need Lowell (or Drew) to come through — Manny can’t do it all!

    stuck working May 28, 2008, 12:39 am
  • Wow, Lowell down too. This kid is good.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:39 am
  • G-A-S.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 28, 2008, 12:40 am
  • C-R-A-P.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 28, 2008, 12:43 am
  • Oki.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 28, 2008, 12:43 am
  • HEY!!! Oki gets the first guy out! We’re onto something here.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 28, 2008, 12:45 am
  • Hey, if extras are good enough for the Yanks and the Os, why not the Sox and the Ms, too? Of course, I’m assuming that Oki keeps thing here and Tek/Casey/Lugo aren’t going to get it done…

    stuck working May 28, 2008, 12:46 am
  • Good inning by Oki. We need to score some runs here, so we don’t see any Lopez.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:51 am
  • JJ Putz in. Last outing he crapped the bed against the Yanks.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:53 am
  • Stuck, Lugo got tossed for looking funny at the umpire.

    I'mBillMcNeal May 28, 2008, 12:54 am
  • Crap, I knew that, Bill! I meant Cora. But for the purposes of my comment, it doesn’t matter anyway.

    stuck working May 28, 2008, 12:55 am
  • Maybe Manny will hit a walk-off in the 10th or 11th.
    Hey, if someone’s 500th career homer is a go-ahead homer in extra innings, it should count as a walk-off no matter who the home team is.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:56 am
  • Casey singles! That’s what happens when you doubt a man batting .371, Stuck.
    Go Cora! Revenge of the backups!

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 12:58 am
  • Timlin and Papelbon warming. PLEASE get a run so we don’t have to see Timlin.
    Shit. Inning over, time for Timlin.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 1:00 am
  • Right, so to further correct my earlier post, I meant to write, “I’m assuming that Oki keeps thing here and Tek/Casey/Cora/Crisp aren’t going to get it done…”

    stuck working May 28, 2008, 1:01 am
  • F*CK Cora drops a backhand, lead-off hitter on.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 1:04 am
  • Damn sacrifices. Winning run is scoring position. Im gunna be pissed if I stayed up this late for nothing. I have to wake up for work in 4 1/2 hours.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 1:05 am
  • Please walk Ichiro.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 1:07 am
  • NICE! Now please walk Lopez, so we can pitch to Vidro, who is batting .231.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 1:07 am
  • Or not, that’s cool too. Just please get him out!

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 1:08 am
  • BOOOOOO bad time to squeeze him ump.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 1:09 am
  • Game over.
    So. Damn. Mad. Wasted over an hour of sleep.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 1:10 am
  • Wow, Manny looked sad. Usually he doesn’t have an expression at all, but he looked like somebody stole his puppy or something.
    Night guys.

    Atheose May 28, 2008, 1:11 am
  • Gah.

    stuck working May 28, 2008, 1:11 am
  • Manny makes a sad face. lol. I think some milk and cookies should cheer Manny up.

    SoxFan May 28, 2008, 11:27 am

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