Cycles and Off Days

No baseball today. so chat about whatever's on your mind.

What's on mind is that we shouldn't be surprised that the Red Sox' offense has gone into a funk after six weeks of destroying the ball. Batting with runners in scoring position seems to go in cycles, and the Sox are in a down cycle now. Hopefully, it will be a short one.

Oh, and Andrew Miller's making the case to push both Alfredo Aceves and Tim Wakefield into the bullpen. With Bobby Jenks about to come off the DL, the pitching staff is getting a little crowded. Who's the odd man out? 

14 comments… add one

  • Who’s the odd man out?
    Hopefully Mike Cameron.

    SF June 27, 2011, 12:34 pm
  • Pertaining to the above comment, I wonder if there is a worse signing, value-wise, throughout Theo’s tenure, than Mike Cameron. Lugo? Renteria? It’s astounding how bad he is.

    SF June 27, 2011, 12:35 pm
  • And it’s not that Renteria was even that bad, but rather that they paid him to go away.

    SF June 27, 2011, 12:36 pm
  • I figure Lugo is worst simply because he was expected to be a starting day-to-day player, whereas Cameron was signed to be our 4th outfielder. Throw in the fact that we paid Lugo more and he accumulated more than 1000 PAs (compared to Cameron’s 282) and I definitely vote Lugo.
    Having said that, Cameron’s 34 OPS+ must be some sort of record for shittiness.

    Atheose - SF June 27, 2011, 1:03 pm
  • “…Hopefully, it will be a short one….”
    yeah hopefully just through the end of sept. and maybe early oct. if necessary ;)
    “…I wonder if there is a worse signing, value-wise, throughout Theo’s tenure, than Mike Cameron. Lugo? Renteria?…”
    from baseball ref.com:
    cameron WAR = 0 for $8m
    lugo WAR = -0.4 for $27m
    renteria WAR = 0.4 for $8m
    lugo wins, or loses depending on your perspective…[note: br.c includes '11 WAR but not '11 salary in the player's line]

    dc June 27, 2011, 1:04 pm
  • “…Having said that, Cameron’s 34 OPS+ must be some sort of record for shittiness. …”
    your comment got me wondering ath, so i found this:
    http://jimjividen.blogspot.com/2009/08/20-worst-baseball-players-ever.html
    i can’t attest to it’s accuracy, but it sure is funny…

    dc June 27, 2011, 1:09 pm
  • Ath, what did they pay of Renteria’s remaining salary? Shouldn’t the math be .4 WAR for $8M plus whatever they subsidized?
    I don’t think he gets Lugo-esque, regardless. Ah, the memories of my LFRS, Julio. Blech.

    SF June 27, 2011, 1:22 pm
  • Rather, that question should have been addressed to dc. Sorry about that.

    SF June 27, 2011, 1:23 pm
  • yes sf…i was lazy and didn’t bother to adjust what br.com served up…i think the sox also paid lugo for awhile after he left, though my memory may be bad on that one…

    dc June 27, 2011, 1:24 pm
  • and then there’s this guy:
    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-worst-hitter-in-baseball-history/
    all he did was ops+ less than 10 three seasons in a row…ouch

    dc June 27, 2011, 1:28 pm
  • Nick Swisher could be the greatest Yankee ever…just saying, I’ve always loved him.
    We got back into first while I was back up in Buffalo! All is right with the world.

    krueg June 27, 2011, 8:46 pm
  • Just heard this stat, I am sure Paul could back up it’s accuracy…
    Tonight’s game between the Sox and Phillies is the first time since 1988 (for the Sox) that the slated pitchers are both coming off complete games.
    That’s today’s useless fact of the day.

    John - YF June 28, 2011, 11:37 am
  • Hey John, ESPN’s Red Sox blog just posted that today is the first time since 1988 that both starters in a Red Sox game are coming off shutouts. Oct. 2, 1988, Mike Boddicker vs. Tom Candiotti. Not exactly a matchup for the ages in retrospect, though they both had some solid seasons.

    Paul SF June 28, 2011, 1:13 pm
  • I knew you’d know! Really upset I will be missing tonight’s match-up for both teams. Going to try and DVR both games. Brewers are my favorite NL team and Prince is my favorite non-Yankee. Sox-Phillies, WS preview? Great matchup in Games 1 and 3…Some good baseball all around hopefully!

    John - YF June 28, 2011, 1:31 pm

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