Deal Day Scoreboard

Let’s make this our thread for all of today’s hot trade action. Thus far:

Deal #1: Sean Casey to Detroit. (Chris Shelton, Detroit’s Mr. April, goes to Triple-A.)

On Deck:
Will the Sox deal Mike Lowell for Julio Lugo and Scott Linebrink in a 3-way with the Rays and Pods?
Will Jason Schmidt go to the Mets?
Soriano anyone? Anyone?!

Your comments on all the day’s doings go here…..

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  • I am going to beat this drum until it breaks (or the deadline passes). Sox should go after Roy Oswalt or Andy Pettite (take THAT, Yanks!).

    SF July 31, 2006, 12:00 pm
  • This just in on the AP Wire:
    The Minnesota Twins traded right-hander Kyle Lohse to the Cincinnati Reds for right-hander Zach Ward.

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 12:20 pm
  • Cleveland sends FA-to-be Ronnie Belliard to St. Louis for Victor Luna, in exchange of 2bmen.

    YF July 31, 2006, 12:28 pm
  • SF: The Astros think they’re contending. Why do you think they deal one of their top guns? And who exactly will the Sox give in return for Oswalt? Papelbon?

    YF July 31, 2006, 12:29 pm
  • Lester, perhaps? Pedroia, Hansen, and a bunch of fungo bats? Who the hell knows. We’re sanding Corian in the office, and the fumes are hellacious, so that should tell you something about my brain at the moment.

    SF July 31, 2006, 12:30 pm
  • Well, you may be right. Oswalt apparently very much on the block. O’s apparently negged a deal that would have swapped him and Tejada.
    Watch out for the fumes!

    YF July 31, 2006, 12:32 pm
  • The Orioles clearly understand that a great bat in the middle of a team with no pitching is worth more than a stud starter. Or not.
    Meanwhile, Jayson Stark now reporting that the A’s are hot for Soriano.

    SF July 31, 2006, 12:34 pm
  • Stark with a beaut here:
    The A’s are now making a run at the best bat left on the market. Certain teams seem to know just when to pounce. And when a prime-time player has hung on the market this long, and the pre-deadline hours are shrinking, this is pounce time.
    Uh, what?

    SF July 31, 2006, 12:36 pm
  • The best bat on the market being old home boy Tejada? What was it Beane said about him in Moneyball?
    I’ll say it again about Pettitte: 9 – 11, 5.18 era. Stop sniffing that Corian.

    LouGYF July 31, 2006, 12:52 pm
  • oh, sorry, now i see “the hottest bat” is sori

    LouGYF July 31, 2006, 12:56 pm
  • Neyer just floated an idea at ESPN: Lidge to the Sox, Lil’ Papi into the rotation.
    What do SFs think of that?

    Sam July 31, 2006, 1:08 pm
  • Rumor on NYC WFAN is that Red Sox will actually be bringing back Grady Little as an Assistant. GO YANKEES.

    Kevin July 31, 2006, 1:11 pm
  • That’s interesting. But I’d be wary of Papelbon going right into the rotation right now, this late in the season. He simply isn’t conditioned for it. I could see him moving there next year, after an off-season and spring training working out in the interest of starting.
    I also don’t know the conditioning aspect of this very well, so if anyone can correct me about whether or not this is a wise move please do so. Instinctively, though, it sounds like an iffy idea. I also read (it may have been at SoSH or at BP) that Papelbon has been, statistically, just immensely valuable as a closer and his starting numbers would have to be off the charts to match the value of any innings pitched as starter, sabermetrically speaking.

    SF July 31, 2006, 1:13 pm
  • Most of the time, I don’t like the trading deadline, but I admit, in these last few hours (when I know it’s almost over), I can get excited about possibilities.
    Either of those Houston starters would have me cheering madly in my (Yankee-fan-filled) office.
    But I still think the best move is probably none at all, considering the price that might be charged for a good pitcher (starter or reliever).

    Devine July 31, 2006, 1:17 pm
  • Lidge to Sox = makes this Yankee fan happy. Have you seen the rate at which he gives up HRs and blows saves this year? Ouch.

    yankeemonkey July 31, 2006, 1:20 pm
  • Buster Oleny is reporting a proposed trade of Coco and Hansen for Andruw Jones, but the Braves want Lester and not Hansen…

    Sam July 31, 2006, 1:22 pm
  • Correction: Jones for Hansen, Crisp and PTBNL, but Braves want the PTBNL to be Lester…

    Sam July 31, 2006, 1:24 pm
  • The Braves can take their heads out of their asses right now, I suppose. No harm in asking, though.
    Why on earth would the Sox ever trade a starter and a centerfielder for…a centerfielder? File that one in the “never, ever gonna happen without at least two or three other guys in the deal” category. Those guys being John Smoltz and someone else I can’t name at the moment since I don’t know the Braves’ roster well enough.

    SF July 31, 2006, 1:25 pm
  • Isn’t Andruw a free agent after this season? Why would Sox trade their best young talent for 2 months of rent-a-CF?

    yankeemonkey July 31, 2006, 1:30 pm
  • Because Buster Olney said so, YM!

    Sam July 31, 2006, 1:32 pm
  • Meanwhile, can anyone else believe that the O’s turned down Ervin Santana and Erik Aybar for Tejada? Wtf?

    Sam July 31, 2006, 1:34 pm
  • There’s only slightly over 2 hours left until the deadline…is there going to be a flurry of activity in the next 2hours, or is everyone pretty much done? That would be anti-climactic.

    yankeemonkey July 31, 2006, 1:46 pm
  • Uh, because Andruw Jones is a hell of a lot better than Coco and only 2 years older?
    Jones has 8 gold gloves and this year 25 hr & 91 rbis in 377 abs versus 4 hr & 20 rbis in 249 abs

    LouGYF July 31, 2006, 1:53 pm
  • Gordon Edes on the Globe’s blog:
    Yes, the Sox called the Braves yesterday inquiring about what it would take to get outfielder Andruw Jones. Yes, they were told that it would cost them Jon Lester, Craig Hansen and Coco Crisp. The Sox said thank you very much, and that was it. No counterproposals, no further conversation.
    Sounds about right.

    SF July 31, 2006, 1:57 pm
  • Trading Lowell today would be true a disgrace to the Sox organization. He’s been productive at the plate, brilliant with the glove, and a class act all around.

    Hudson July 31, 2006, 1:59 pm
  • Gotcha.
    I’m still vexed about the O’s, though. If it’s true, MLB needs to take them away from their current ownership. What a disgrace.

    Sam July 31, 2006, 2:00 pm
  • If we don’t get some starting pitching help, I will be pretty bummed out.
    Theo, come on buddy, rabbit out of a hat time.

    LocklandSF July 31, 2006, 2:11 pm
  • It’s hard to get excited about a pitcher with a 4.74 era in the NL (= 5.25 in the AL?), but the Times reports, “Lidle has a career record of 41-25 in the second halves of seasons, one of the reasons the Yankees wanted him” and says Cash very much wanted him.

    LouGYF July 31, 2006, 2:26 pm
  • This is from Gordon Edes’ blog:
    “I was told by a Pittsburgh source this afternoon that the Red Sox were talking to the Pirates about starting pitcher Kip Wells.
    Wells 1-5 with a 6.69 ERA in seven starts for the Pirates this season. In July, however, he has a much lower 3.16 ERA in four starts.”
    So . . . .seems like no one’s answering Theo’s calls, and the people that are, are just trying to be funny? Or Gordon’s being funny.

    rk July 31, 2006, 2:31 pm
  • Less than 1 hour to go. There have been no trades announced for 3.5 hours. This might be quite anticlimactic…

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 3:06 pm
  • ESPN is saying that Wells K to Boston is almost done…hmmm

    Sam July 31, 2006, 3:08 pm
  • CBS says todd walker to the padres to play 3rd. this could neutralize any lowell rumors.

    T-sf July 31, 2006, 3:08 pm
  • It’s always anticlimactic, pretty much. Except for 2004, these deadlines have mostly come and gone. Even ’03 was pretty meager – Sauerbeck and Suppan weren’t exactly Smoltz and Glavine…

    SF July 31, 2006, 3:09 pm
  • FWIW, I don’t want Pettite, I’d love Oswalt or Clemens. Kip Wells? Lord, no. Lieber, OK, but depends on who we’re giving up. Linebrick and Lugo for Lowell, I could do but not be excited about.
    So basically, the best names are all tooe xpensive, the OK names are too expensive, and the cheap names … well, they’re lousy. Only way I see anything happening is in a three-way.

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 3:10 pm
  • We don’t need no stinking rabbits. We just need guys to pitch a tad better.

    SF July 31, 2006, 3:12 pm
  • ESPN radio is reporting Drayton McLane Jr., astros owner, is demanding GM Tim Purpura trade brad lidge at all costs before the deadline. there are hints clemens is somewhat behind this as well.

    sf rod July 31, 2006, 3:12 pm
  • ESPN radio also reported that Drayton McLane was seen wandering the streets of Houston in a bathrobe, drooling and muttering while carrying a 1:32 scale model of the Astrodome full of Barbie dolls.

    Anonymous July 31, 2006, 3:14 pm
  • That was me, by the way.

    SF July 31, 2006, 3:15 pm
  • That ERA on Kip Wells in the National league — regardless of how his July has been — is scary. Haven’t looked at the career numbers yet, but yikes…

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 3:15 pm
  • Wells’ career K/9 is pretty respectable – 6.57 and his BB/9 is 1.6. That’s not bad at all.
    It could be that the Sox are doing what the Yanks did – taking an mediocre NL pitcher because even a mediocre NL pitcher will be a better 5th starter than what they have been throwing out there this season.

    Sam July 31, 2006, 3:20 pm
  • Kip Wells’ career numbers:
    2003 — Decent.
    2004 — Bad.
    2005 — Worse.

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 3:21 pm
  • Wells burned me two years ago in my fantasy league. Gammo sold me on the “this is going to be the year he finally puts it together” speech.
    All you need to know is that through Age 28, the #1 similar pitcher to him per BR is Frank Castillo.
    And K.Wells doesn’t have Lt. Frank’s sparkling personality.

    Kluv July 31, 2006, 3:23 pm
  • mets just dealt xavier nady to the pirates for pitchers o. perez and r. hernandez.

    sf rod July 31, 2006, 3:23 pm
  • The only categories in which Wells has ever led the league: Walks per 9, wild pitches and losses, all in 2005, when he lost 18 games, walked 99 batters (to 132Ks) and had a 5.09 ERA in 182 innings.

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 3:23 pm
  • Roy…Roy…Roy…Roy

    SF July 31, 2006, 3:25 pm
  • I’ll tell ya what, looking at those NL numbers from Wells, I’d stick with Snyder…

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 3:26 pm
  • SF – who’s Roy? Are you delirious?

    Sam July 31, 2006, 3:39 pm
  • Minaya must be feelin’ real lucky with that Perez move. He can’t be hoping to turn him around this year…

    lp July 31, 2006, 3:39 pm
  • Todd Walker to San Diego for a prospect…

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 3:40 pm
  • Gary Gilette seems to think the Sox and Braves deal could get done if ATL asks for a non-Lester prospect…
    Clay Bucholz perhaps? Andruw Jones would add a lot to the lineup, and Hansen’s inconsistency has made him more expendable, imo.

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 3:41 pm
  • Old friend Matt Stairs to Texas for a prospect…

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 3:43 pm
  • Rosenthal: kip wells to texas instead of boston

    T-sf July 31, 2006, 3:51 pm
  • I imagine he’ll do quite well in the pitchers’ park that is Ameriquest Field /sarcasm

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 3:52 pm
  • Oswalt, Roy.

    SF July 31, 2006, 3:54 pm
  • Surely your chant should be Roger! Roger! Roger!
    Either the way, I doubt the Stros will ditch the pitching. Why the hell would they want to trade Oswalt anyway? The dude is sick.

    Sam July 31, 2006, 4:00 pm
  • Yanks to get Craig Wilson. I know nothing about him.

    Sam July 31, 2006, 4:01 pm
  • 3:01 pm by my clock. Deadline has passed… Now we wait a couple minutes, i guess.

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 4:01 pm
  • Chacon goes to pittsburgh for craig wilson

    T-sf July 31, 2006, 4:02 pm
  • Gordon Edes is reporting that the Sox have passed on Kip Wells. Phew.

    Hudson July 31, 2006, 4:02 pm
  • Looks like a utility player with a high OBP.

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 4:03 pm
  • Wells does indeed go to Texas instead. Good for him. Good for us.

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 4:06 pm
  • Well, Wilson’s OPS is in the 800s, which is 150 points more than Andy Phillips. And he has a big(ish) bat – he hit 29 HRs in the season he played 155 games. Seems like a good pick up.

    Sam July 31, 2006, 4:06 pm
  • Craig Wilson for Shawn Chacon looks to be a good deal. And my heart sinks lower in my chest…

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 4:07 pm
  • So Soriano stayed put? Is Jim Bowden really that much of an idiot?

    Sam July 31, 2006, 4:09 pm
  • Wow, big last-sec rumor: Cesar Izturis for Greg Madduz.

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 4:10 pm
  • Yeah, Paul SF – what is Theo (not) doing? The least we could have done was drive up the price for Abreu, such as offering two paperclips or something.
    Did we really just “stand pat”?
    Hopefully Boomer makes himself look like a killer pickup tonight . . .

    rk July 31, 2006, 4:11 pm
  • AP and Carlos Pena are screwed with the acquisition of Wilson, who, for the record, appears to be a crappy fielder, at least if you judge by his zone rating.
    So long Shawn, and thanks for the memories. It was real in 05.

    YF July 31, 2006, 4:12 pm
  • YF: We’ve seen all we need to see of AP in his duty this season. As for Carlos Pena, T-Long has very similar numbers in AAA right now.

    RichYF July 31, 2006, 4:13 pm
  • AP seems like a nice guy, but he really has no place being on the Yankees roster. Maybe he can be a utility guy with the Royals or M’s, but his hitting stats fairly stink and his fielding isn’t that great. Wilson’s an upgrade.

    Sam July 31, 2006, 4:14 pm
  • Anyone remember those articles about a week ago about how Jim Bowden just LOVES this time of year, holding all the cards (specifically Soriano), and how he was going to parlay that into Washington Nationals future glory? Seems like so long ago…
    Nice job rebuilding, Jim.
    (though I guess there’s always a waiver wire deal possible)

    SF July 31, 2006, 4:16 pm
  • Early grade for Cash: A for what he did do (liberating Abreu and Lidle for peanuts, and snagging a bat for castoff pitcher Chacon). To be determined whether not acquiring a frontline pitcher will make these other moves moot. Not that there was a great deal out there…..

    YF July 31, 2006, 4:16 pm
  • The Red Sox report that outfielder Trot Nixon has a grade two bicep sprain and he is expected to go on the disabled list.
    More updates to come.
    –The Globe.

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 4:18 pm
  • Quick question: didn’t the Yankees get Abreu to allow the last year of his contract to be a club option, instead of a player option? Wouldn’t this be scoffed at by the Player’s Association as a reduction in the total value of his contract? Or does the PA regard possible free agency as more valuable than the $15M he would have been paid? Seems like a strange thing for them to accede to, if I have it right. Can someone fill me in if I don’t?

    SF July 31, 2006, 4:18 pm
  • Looks like our own resident “mediot” followed the script perfectly. You make my sooth come true, YF!

    SF July 31, 2006, 4:19 pm
  • Wasn’t it always a team option? I thought the point was that he wanted the team trading for him to guarantee the optiona and the Yanks didn’t want to. Not sure why he’d make that stipulation if it was a player option.

    Sam July 31, 2006, 4:19 pm
  • That might be the case, Sam. Like I said, I wasn’t sure of the situation, which probably means I had it wrong.

    SF July 31, 2006, 4:20 pm
  • Rich: Despite the numbers, I was hoping (am hoping) to see Carlos Pena get a crack. He’s a defensive whiz, and I just wonder if he’d perk up at being recalled. It’s hard not to feel bad for the guy. This isn’t some 32-year-old prospect who came up for a cup of coffee, didn’t produce, and was sent down. He was a legitimate major leaguer (or not that legit, whatever) for several years, had been much ballyhooed as a prospect and no doubt become accustomed to the lifestyle in the show, and now all of a sudden he’s scuffling along in the minors. That can’t be good for the self-esteem. So you wonder what happens if Jeter rubs a bit of his magic off on the kid.
    Of course, it may just be that he simply can’t hit. So there you go.

    YF July 31, 2006, 4:21 pm
  • And those newfangled Phillies lose to the Marlins 15-2. How happy is Jim Thome at this point…

    SF July 31, 2006, 4:22 pm
  • So you wonder what happens if Jeter rubs a bit of his magic off on the kid.
    He turns into Aaron Small for about 6 weeks and then goes back to sucking…

    SF July 31, 2006, 4:23 pm
  • I’m afraid you’ve lost me there SF.

    YF July 31, 2006, 4:24 pm
  • 6 weeks of vintage 05 aaron small would be most welcome. if they can get that from pena they should let him pitch!

    YF July 31, 2006, 4:26 pm
  • Jeremy Affeldt and Denny Bautista to KC for Shealy and Scott Dohmann.

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 4:28 pm
  • Ah, I think you haven’t refreshed the site in a while, YF. See the new post, which pre-dates your comment about Cashman’s “grade”.

    SF July 31, 2006, 4:28 pm
  • The summer intern who gets to man MLB’s fax machine has got have one heck of a job.

    SF July 31, 2006, 4:29 pm
  • If they can get a 10-0 record out of Pena, that would indeed be miraculous…

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 4:30 pm
  • YF, I too really wanted to see Pena given a shot, but if he was playing well enough I would have to assume he’d get the call. AP wasn’t totally awful, but he really wasn’t doing anything that deserved keeping his job and letting Pena rot away in AAA. The deal for Wilson solidifies the fact that Pena might just be no good (or not be thought very highly of), don’t you think? I mean, at this point AP looks terrible at the plate. His glove is still solid, but he’s just not hacking it with his <.300 OBP. I feel that if Cash had faith in Pena he wouldn't have moved Chacon (although he basically got Wilson for someone he was considering DFAing anyway) and would have just called him up and dropped AP.

    RichYF July 31, 2006, 4:30 pm
  • Maddux and Julio Lugo to the Dodgers.

    SF July 31, 2006, 4:31 pm
  • whoa. lugo to the dodgers.

    T-sf July 31, 2006, 4:31 pm
  • Lugo to the Dodgers for Joel Guzman and a prospect. The more names get confirmed, the less likely a Sox trade is looking…

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 4:33 pm
  • Jim Bowden’s still an idiot. He’s superceded the O’s management in my “I can’t believe he’s a baseball professional” sweepstakes. Nice jo there, Jim.
    I bet he’s crap at poker…

    Sam July 31, 2006, 4:34 pm
  • Wow, so the Dodgers just won the NL West…

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 4:35 pm
  • Jim Rome is a greasy guy. And it doesn’t appear he realizes the trade deadline just happened.

    rk July 31, 2006, 4:37 pm
  • awaiting MLB approval……yankees send larry, darryl, and darryl to the astros for petitte, clemens, and sandy koufax.

    sf rod July 31, 2006, 4:38 pm
  • So Andruw Jones and Sori stay with their teams and will both (?) be free agents next year. How will the Yanks fit Jones, Sori, Damon, Matsui, Sheff, Abreu, Melky and Bernie in one outfield?
    Or will they let them go to the Sox?

    LouGYF July 31, 2006, 4:43 pm
  • Doesn’t Jones have a club option for 07?

    RichYF July 31, 2006, 4:45 pm
  • As Gary Gillette puts it when comparing AP and Wilson: “sub-700 OPS vs. 800-plus overall and 900-plus vs. LHP. A major upgrade.”

    Sam July 31, 2006, 4:59 pm
  • How good is Wilson on defense? At least AP was solid there.

    yankeemonkey July 31, 2006, 5:05 pm
  • From the Sox perspective — No trades > bad trades involving Lester and Pedroia.
    If that’s all teams were asking for, then good for Theo. Nevertheless, I fear. We remain without a starter after Lester, unless Wells can recapture that lightning he had for four innings before the line drive to his kneecap…

    Paul SF July 31, 2006, 5:09 pm
  • There’ll be panic in the streets if Wells gets lit up.
    Heck, there’ll be panic in my head.

    Devine July 31, 2006, 5:12 pm
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