Deep in the Heart: Sox-Rangers Gamer I

Getting that Kansas City monkey off their back in high style yesterday, the Sox now head to Arlington, Texas for a series with the Rangers before heading back to Boston for their Fenway debut.  This weekend’s three game set features Tim Wakefield in the opener, then a certain short-fused psycho in the second game, finishing up with Curt Schilling on Sunday night. 

It’ll be good to see Wake back on the mound, as last year’s injury-riddled campaign was a major disappointment – if back to full health he’ll be an important cog, an innings-eater with the certain ability to win someteen games.   The Sox try to keep up the momentum starting at 2:05 eastern time.  Use this as your game thread for today’s action.

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  • Sox go down quickly in order with 2 pop outs and a weak grounder.

    TJ Sox Fan April 6, 2007, 2:11 pm
  • Sox go very fast in the first. The Texas tv announcers make the 1-2-3 work by Tejada seem like the final three outs of a seventh game, maybe overdramatizing them just a bit.

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:12 pm
  • Sox get the 0-3 Rangers for the weekend. Yanks get the 0-3 Orioles. Both opponents will be chomping for a win.

    Whatever April 6, 2007, 2:12 pm
  • So sick of these crappy away team broadcasts. You’d think that at least the Rangers could spring for the ball-strike/scoreboard graphic.
    And now all of a sudden it’s back to NESN. Cool.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 2:13 pm
  • Weird: MLBtv just cut from the Texas broadcast to NESN with Don Orsillo and Remy! Cool!

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:13 pm
  • Kenny Lofton: Still a pain in the ass.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 2:14 pm
  • Kenny Lofton being quite the pest here, fouling off a few pitches. Wake induces a groundout after nine tosses.

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:15 pm
  • they shoulda did that yesterday with Matsuzaka i got sick of the Royals guys using a diff name everytime theny mentioned Matsuzaka

    TJ Sox Fan April 6, 2007, 2:15 pm
  • Mirabelli catching today, of course, and for the first time in a long time the odds that he hits as well as Varitek are pretty much even.
    And that’s really not a good thing.

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:16 pm
  • Frank Catalanotto has a tiny head.

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:17 pm
  • My favorite part was when one of them called him “Daisuke Matsui.”

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 2:17 pm
  • mine was Matsuzakee

    TJ Sox Fan April 6, 2007, 2:18 pm
  • Hard hit single for the supposed future NY first baseman.
    Followed by the most pathetic, irritating f*cking RBI I’ve ever seen.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 2:19 pm
  • I have Teixiera too, so I hope it’ll be a high offense game where everyone gets a few HR’s and the Sox lose.. ;)

    Lar April 6, 2007, 2:19 pm
  • Matsuzukee**

    TJ Sox Fan April 6, 2007, 2:20 pm
  • Gah. Painful way to give up the first run. Bloop to right by Sosa.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 2:20 pm
  • Aw crap, what a cheap frigging hit from Sosa, driving in Young on a mistake piece of contact that bloops over Youkilis. Sosa had not intention of swinging through that. Wakefield dug this hole, though, walking Catalanotto on 4 pitches then giving up the hard hit to Teixeira.
    Blalock follows with a towering, foulball home run. Wake not sharp today at all.

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:21 pm
  • Ohhhh, Manny wanted to hit that high one hard.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 2:23 pm
  • I wouldn’t say Wake looks bad. He’s thrown a few bad ones, but it’s dancing and with the exception of Teixeira’s single and a few foul balls, there hasn’t been that much solid contact.
    And Manny misses another one. That looked like a fairly hittable pitch.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 2:24 pm
  • Drew with the shot back through the box, hits Tejada, and squibs towards third. Single.

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:25 pm
  • So either this will be an incredibly frustrating game, or Tejeda will get smacked around his second or third time through. Lots of flyballs, lots of pitches left up in the zone.
    Lowell flies out to shallow center.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 2:27 pm
  • with the exception of Teixeira’s single and a few foul balls there hasn’t been that much solid contact
    Uh, that’s in ONE inning!

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:29 pm
  • The Sox’ bats, despite the 2-1 record and the 7 runs on Thursday, just haven’t been that scary. Varitek and Crisp have been putrid, Ortiz has done just about nothing, and Lugo doesn’t have much patience or ability to get on unless he puts the ball in play. I think it’s just a matter of time before they get a little more action, a little more clout, and a little more consistency, but it’s certainly been the most worrisome thing so far (beyond Curt’s flounder on Opening Day, but that’s just one guy).

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:31 pm
  • Tony Graffanino Dustin Pedroia with the error. Grrr.

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:32 pm
  • Stolen base by Wilkerson, RISP with nobody out
    I have to cut out in about 5 minutes, and thank God, because this game is already excruciating.

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:34 pm
  • Wakefield pretty much makes a living while giving up hard-hit foul balls.
    But yeah, he looks awful right now. And if Mirabelli weren’t such a terrible defensive catcher, that run wouldn’t have scored.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 2:35 pm
  • *shudder* Not…good…

    Devine April 6, 2007, 2:35 pm
  • Gerald F*cking Laird steals second now. Can Wakefield WAKE UP? These guys are already running at will, and not a single throw over to hold the guys closer to first.
    2-0 Rangers.

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:35 pm
  • I’ll say this: Wake’s always sucked in Texas, and the cold weather probably isn’t helping any.
    And this inning would be done and scoreless if not for Pedroia’s miscue…damn it.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 2:38 pm
  • I wouldn’t worry about Boston’s offense. They’ve held their own without any production from Ortiz or Manny. Once they start hitting, watch out.

    Andrew April 6, 2007, 2:39 pm
  • The Texas hitters are waiting on the ball really well and making good contact thus far. You can see it on their faces, “Wait…wait…swing!”

    Devine April 6, 2007, 2:40 pm
  • Two observations from the game so far…
    The Rangers radio guys are one step above functionally retarded.
    We need to hit the freaking ball.

    LocklandSF April 6, 2007, 2:41 pm
  • “Dougie’s going long tonight, kills it, eats two meatball subs, kills it again”

    LocklandSF April 6, 2007, 2:42 pm
  • Tejeda getting quick outs, pop-ups.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 2:43 pm
  • Wow, Pedroia takes a home run cut at a first pitch, after Mirabelli pops out softly.
    The Sox look horrid at the plat, both impatient and incompetent.

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:43 pm
  • Come on, Orsillo/Remy: “te-HEH-duh” (or “thah” rather than “duh” if you’re being a Spanish stickler, which I am), not “te-HAH-duh”.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 2:45 pm
  • OK, guys. Have fun – I have to cut out.
    While I am out can someone please call the Red Sox and tell them to make Tejeda throw a few pitches?

    SF April 6, 2007, 2:45 pm
  • Tejeda looks like Wang’s polar opposite.
    He also looks incredibly mediocre, with Boston hitters taking the kind of over-aggressive swings you’d expect them to take against a guy they feel totally comfortable with. So, either he’s extraordinarily deceptive, about to start getting shelled, or Boston’s approach has somehow come to resemble the Angels.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 2:46 pm
  • Looks like the Red Sox took Spring Training fundamental training with the Yanks this year.

    walein April 6, 2007, 2:47 pm
  • Hey, Wakefield strikes out the side (and walks one). A positive!
    Youk-Ortiz-Manny. Good things could (COULD) happen.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 2:53 pm
  • In case none of you ever read this, it’s funny as hell, Dougie’s Diary for May 1, 2006:
    http://tinyurl.com/juljh

    LocklandSF April 6, 2007, 2:54 pm
  • Crud. Youk took it for a ride, but caught at the track.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 2:56 pm
  • Like I said…Tejeda is getting away with everything. Warm day, Youk’s drive to left is long gone.
    Ugh. I feel like a homer but c’mon, does he really look like he should be coasting this easily?

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 2:56 pm
  • Actually, while nobody has really heard of Tejeda, he was the Ranger’s pitcher of the month last September, posting a 1.13 ERA in 5 starts for the month. Kind of picking up where he left off, at least so far.

    Whatever April 6, 2007, 2:57 pm
  • And Ortiz continues to look like absolute crap. 3 pitches, 2 outs.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 2:57 pm
  • No, I’ve heard of him. In fact I picked him up in fantasy baseball during that stretch. Doesn’t make me any more impressed with how he’s throwing; everything’s up in the zone and Boston’s hitters are just hacking at everything.
    Deserves credit for throwing strikes, though. Finally, a Sox works a walk after a decent ab. Thanks Manny.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 2:58 pm
  • Manny could have crushed the 3-1 pitch (though it was up and in), but manages the walk on 3-2. At least Tejeda will have to throw at least one more pitch.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 2:59 pm
  • Poor writing on my part…this is a frustrating game.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 3:00 pm
  • GOD DAMN IT! Two balls to the track that inning as Drew flies deep to right.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 3:01 pm
  • Unfortunately for Boston, after Drew, nobody’s really that scary.

    Andrew April 6, 2007, 3:02 pm
  • Like I said. Another crappy high fastball Drew absolutely crushes, for what would be a homer on a warmer day and a double if hit a bit to the right or left.
    Not like I don’t usually give pitchers credit when Boston gets shut down. Greinke and Meche both looked pretty effing good; this guy just doesn’t.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 3:03 pm
  • I was just about to say something about Wake looking better now, then Kinsler did that. Eesh. Finally a bit of luck; two pitches later he smokes a liner, but right at Lowell.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 3:07 pm
  • Love the replay of that one…Wakefield calmly watches the towering foul ball, calmly points foul, nods as this is confirmed, and gestures for the ball toward home plate.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 3:07 pm
  • Kinsler is on my fantasy team…bumming over here on 2 levels.

    walein April 6, 2007, 3:08 pm
  • I’ve got the game on ESPN “gamecast” – not ideal, I know, but I’ll take what I can get.
    Anyways, they just had Drew’s splits from last year, and I was surprised how poor he was against lefties. He was @.290, with 17 hrs and 75 RBIs versus righties, and @.244, 3, 25 against lefties. That’s pretty bad. I have been quite impressed with Drew from the box scores thus far, and I think he’s going to have some great overall numbers this year, but I wonder how many starts in RF WMP will be getting versus lefties.

    Tyrel SF April 6, 2007, 3:08 pm
  • Come on, Crisp and Mirabelli. Don’t waste space completely.
    I appear to have used my MLB.TV karma as it is now being mean to me.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 3:09 pm
  • Anyone else watching the game on mlb.tv having screwy volume problems? I’m wearing headphones, and if I keep having to crank the volume only to have it suddenly spike again, blowing my eardrums, I’m planning to sue. Heh.
    Atta boy Coco. Finally a warning track shot that lands.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 3:11 pm
  • All right, Crisp, good! An XBH and all. Somebody score him. How ’bout you, Pedroia?

    Devine April 6, 2007, 3:11 pm
  • Yeah, d1. I’m getting that sort of thing over here, too.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 3:12 pm
  • Useless. Tejeda has 1 K through 4.2 innings, and of course it’s Mirabelli and of course, it’s with a RISP.
    When are they going to start teaching Kotteras how to catch a knuckleball?

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 3:16 pm
  • Too bad, so sad.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 3:16 pm
  • Okay, gotta go do other things for a bit. See you guys (and by “you guys” I mean you, d1) later.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 3:18 pm
  • This is brutal to watch…and Tejeda’s on pace to go the distance, at 57 pitches through 5 innings. Pathetic plate discipline.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 3:18 pm
  • desturb1, I’m having the same problem. Thought I had a virus for a second.

    Andrew April 6, 2007, 3:24 pm
  • Uh oh, here comes the blowout.

    Andrew April 6, 2007, 3:27 pm
  • Oh, nevermind. Big Poppy hasn’t done much yet. Saving up his clutch hitting for th Yankees, I’d imagine.

    Andrew April 6, 2007, 3:28 pm
  • Ortiz and Manny both look terrible. Papi can’t seem to catch up to the 90 mph belt-high fastball, and Manny’s swung underneath two Tejeda left right down the middle. And both of them keep swinging at the first or second goddam pitches they see.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 3:31 pm
  • And for all the talk about warning track hits by the Sox, Sosa and Kinsler were mere feet from homeruns on two occasions.

    Andrew April 6, 2007, 3:34 pm
  • So was Blalock, twice. That’s sort of characteristic of a Wakefield start; even when balls get crushed, guys are often so far out in front that they can’t keep it fair. Fair bit of luck involved but I think it’s also just the nature of the knuckleball.
    And Drew swings at the first pitch to lead off the 7th. Because it’s a very good idea to be super-aggressive when the other team’s starter’s under 70 pitches heading into the 7th inning. Lowell does the same thing, but waits a whopping 2 pitches before flying out. So upsetting…

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 3:38 pm
  • why cant somebody tell Remy how to pronounce Tejeda properly? This is almost as bad as calling DiceK Matsui yesterday…

    sam YF April 6, 2007, 3:40 pm
  • I tried, Sam, believe me (up in the thread by a lot).
    *yawn* Wakefield pitching pretty well (11 in a row), Red Sox not scoring. Pretty typical.
    *goes back to sleep*

    Devine April 6, 2007, 3:43 pm
  • this is a fast-moving game.

    Nick-YF April 6, 2007, 3:44 pm
  • Don’t like seeing Kyle Snyder up in the bullpen. He’s the closest thing to a longman on the roster; why not just save him for tomorrow in case Tavarez gets hammered?

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 3:51 pm
  • Hey Manny! A little effort! Cool.
    Score runs. Score runs now.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 3:53 pm
  • Wow. Manny makes a really nice over-the-shoulder catch at the wall after a long run to end the inning. Looked like an RBI double for sure.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 3:54 pm
  • a couple good lines from DJ Gallos thing on ESPN.
    April 24: With J.D. Drew down in the outfield with a strained hamstring after trying to run down a deep fly ball hit by Toronto’s Vernon Wells, fellow Red Sox outfielder Manny Ramirez runs over to his fallen teammate, takes a picture with him and then attempts to sell Drew on eBay.
    April 29: With the bases loaded for the Red Sox and only one out in the seventh inning of the Yankees’ home game against Boston, Alex Rodriguez calls for an infield meeting at the mound so he can pass Derek Jeter a note that reads: “Will u b my bff? YES/no/maybe.”

    Anonymous April 6, 2007, 3:54 pm
  • Mind you, I’m not dogging Manny. He’s my favorite player, but he does not, you know, often get to balls like that.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 3:55 pm
  • Lugo walks with one out.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 4:00 pm
  • I don’t know if I understand letting Belli “hit” with a man on and two outs, only to take Wake at the start of the next inning.

    Tyrel SF April 6, 2007, 4:01 pm
  • As usual, Wakes is getting no run support.

    Hudson April 6, 2007, 4:04 pm
  • it should read “only to take OUT Wake…”

    Tyrel SF April 6, 2007, 4:04 pm
  • Tyrel, you’re right. Didn’t even think about it at the time. Of course, when Tek is your better option *hangs head*.
    Youk and Ortiz nothing doing. Yick.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 4:04 pm
  • That’s THREE first pitch outs from Ortiz today. What the hell is going on? Golden Sombrero yesterday, now this?
    Tito has a habit of saying, “When it’s Varitek’s day off, it’s his day off. Period.” At least I think I remember him handling the catcher spot that way last year.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 4:06 pm
  • May 23: Curt Schilling pulls himself from a start against the Yankees in the third inning so he can respond to a nasty comment left on his blog by Dan Shaughnessy.

    Anonymous April 6, 2007, 4:07 pm
  • Wakefield scattered 3 hits over 6 innings, and allowed just 1 earned run… Striking out 4 to his 2 walks… This should be enough to at least have a shot at a win.

    Hudson April 6, 2007, 4:08 pm
  • On the plus side, Otsuka sucked against Boston last year. But the way Manny and Co. have been swinging, I’m not sure it matters who takes the mound in the ninth.
    Okajima didn’t look too good. Took a couple of nice defensive plays and some good luck–Laird getting called out on interference after running inside the basepath on a sacrifice bunt attempt–to keep things from getting messy. Hopefully it was just an off day. And then Lugo makes a stab of his own to help out Snyder.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 4:11 pm
  • Web gems from the Red Sox today (Manny last inning, Lowell and Lugo a couple times today), but that’s it.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 4:12 pm
  • Really frustrating: Could just as easily be a scoreless tie. No Pedroia error, no Sammy Sosa check-swing that somehow makes it to shallow RF, no runs scored. Yuck. And Kyle Snyder is our best reliever right now not named Jon Papelbon.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 4:14 pm
  • Manny-Drew-Lowell-Crisp-Belli[WMP PH?] are Boston’s last licks…

    Hudson April 6, 2007, 4:16 pm
  • Make it quick or take the lead…don’t string it out, boys.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 4:16 pm
  • May 30: With the Arizona Diamondbacks in town, Phillies fans chuck batteries at Arizona shortstop Stephen Drew with notes attached saying: “These are for your brother, J.D. Please throw them at him for us.”
    July 2: The Mariners publicly announce that Ichiro Suzuki is available in a trade, but general manager Bill Bavasi is rebuffed in his request that any team who wishes to acquire Ichiro first give Seattle a posting fee of $51 million.
    September 7: The Giants and Dodgers begin their final series of the season and decide to wear Yankees and Red Sox uniforms hoping the East Coast media will give some attention to their rivalry.

    Anonymous April 6, 2007, 4:17 pm
  • Good. Manny singles quick to right.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 4:17 pm
  • Well, nice start. Still don’t understand why there’s all this 1st-pitch-swinging, but can’t really complain about that one.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 4:17 pm
  • Manny with the leadoff single…

    Hudson April 6, 2007, 4:18 pm
  • …made Drew look pretty awful.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 4:19 pm
  • So frustrating, come on guys.

    LocklandSF April 6, 2007, 4:19 pm
  • Sick pitch on the strike out.

    walein April 6, 2007, 4:19 pm
  • That’s a really sad K by Drew there.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 4:19 pm
  • Drew Ks, not prettily either.

    Hudson April 6, 2007, 4:20 pm
  • I can safely say this was the worst offensive performance I remember seeing out of the regular Boston lineup in a long, long, LONG time.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 4:20 pm
  • Suckfest. Hope for better tomorrow.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 4:21 pm
  • Wow, I mean, just wow.
    If I was Wake, I would be pissed, real pissed.
    This, just like all last year, should have been a W for him.

    LocklandSF April 6, 2007, 4:22 pm
  • Lowell grounds into fielder’s choice… Crisp grounds out to 2nd… Game over, with a whimper.
    Wakefield deserves better. So far, this lineup has produced only 12 runs in 4 games.

    Hudson April 6, 2007, 4:23 pm
  • I worry about this lineup…I worry about this lineup a LOT.
    I certainly believe it can be good (I thought it would be an obvious strength pre-season), but…lifeless, with 7 and 8 hitters that may as well not be there thus far.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 4:27 pm
  • the staff has a 2.65 ERA thats a bright spot :p

    Anonymous April 6, 2007, 4:28 pm
  • Next on the dockett: Julian Tavarez vs. Kevin Milwood. Milwood’s not exactly a force to be reckoned with, but I’m definitely not optimistic.
    On the plus side, maybe they’ll do better against an extreme GB pitcher then they did against an extreme FB pitcher.
    And I don’t blame the 7-8 hitters for most of this. Youkilis has been off, Ortiz has been a non-factor, and Manny’s been inconsistant and hasn’t shown any power. I don’t expect that to continue for too long, but for now it’s sure a pain in the ass. Interesting side-note: Rangers pitchers needed only 101 pitches to finish this game.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 4:33 pm
  • I was actually thinking of an addendum to my earlier post, d1. Yes, it’s troublesome that Ortiz and Manny aren’t whacking the ball out, but as you say, that’s almost certainly not going to last.
    I maintain optimism (like .285 optimism) on Crisp but I worry I’m wrong and he’ll put up another fairly crap year, and Tek I just see continuing to be a gigantic, gaping hole of suck in the batter’s box.
    And why is Lugo batting leadoff again? I really think that’s simply retarded.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 4:37 pm
  • “I worry about this lineup a LOT”
    Give it a little time. Once Manny or Papi goes on a tear, this team can catch fire. Good hitting is contagious, nd we’ve got a couple of the best.

    Tyrel SF April 6, 2007, 4:48 pm
  • it wasn’t our lineups fault they faced an overmanned robinson tejeda.

    sf rod April 6, 2007, 4:53 pm
  • Here’s what I find bothersome: The Sox are not working the counts. Sox pitchers in 8 innings today threw 128 pitches; Rangers pitchers threw 101 pitches in 9 innings.
    Sox batters need to more aggressively work the pitch counts, foul off more pitches.

    I'mBillMcNeal April 6, 2007, 5:18 pm
  • I don’t worry about the lineup. Give them some time to get everything sorted out. Once Papi gets everything figured out, things are going to start turning around, quick.
    Typical Wakefield run support, he’s been getting squeezed for a long while now. He pitched a hell of a game, especially considering that BS fluke of a Sosa hit that drove in one of the 2 runs.

    Steve April 6, 2007, 5:28 pm
  • Rotoworld suggests that maybe we should be a little concerned with Ortiz; he had an atrocious spring and hasn’t shown anything since the season started. It’s too early to hit the panic button, but I am a little worried.

    desturbd1 April 6, 2007, 5:40 pm
  • “And why is Lugo batting leadoff again? I really think that’s simply retarded.”
    I don’t me to say I told you so….and so it begins.

    Triskaidekaphobia April 6, 2007, 5:54 pm
  • “And why is Lugo batting leadoff again? I really think that’s simply retarded.”
    Who should bat leadoff then? Youk? And Lugo bat second? Does that really make a difference?

    Kmetican April 6, 2007, 6:24 pm
  • .340 OBP versus .378 OBP (lifetime)
    Over 600 AB…that’s getting on base 204 times versus 227.
    You might score about 7 or 8 more runs. It’s true…it doesn’t matter much, but more runs are more runs.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 6:47 pm
  • but then wouldn’t you have to factor in speed and baserunning? The numbers might be even closer.

    Nick-YF April 6, 2007, 6:49 pm
  • Oh, and I doubt reversing their roles would make much of a difference. But my lineup would be more like:
    Drew
    Youk
    Ortiz
    Manny
    Lugo
    Lowell
    Crisp
    Pedroia
    Tek
    Of course, player comfort (some might not like leading off, for instance) would also have to be considered. Might reverse Crisp and Pedroia depending on how season pans out. Of course, batting orders always have that caveat.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 6:49 pm
  • Drew leadoff? And Lugo trying to drive in runs and protect Manny in the 5-hole?
    That’s retarded.

    Steve April 6, 2007, 8:24 pm
  • I’m of the opinion that getting on base is the most important thing (particularly when two guys are consistently going to hit home runs), and the people who tend to do it the most should get the most chances. I also believe the concept of “protection” is overrated.

    Devine April 7, 2007, 2:23 am
  • Sure, “protection” is overrated. Tell that to Bonds, Guerrero, Howard, or any other guy walking every third at bat.
    Imagine the treatment Ortiz would get without Manny behind him. He’d be walking a ton, and seeing much worse pitches overall. Manny would likely never see a fastball with Lugo behind him.
    Drew has very high RBI potential, you want him batting with guys on base, not when they’re empty. Youks is almost as good on-base wise, it’d be a complete waste of Drew to have him leading off.

    Steve April 7, 2007, 2:45 am
  • i know a handlful of games is hardly a trend, but what happened to the sox hitting?…the bottom of the order was alway questionable [except pedroia]…but the only guys hitting so far seem to be drew and pedroia [manny’s ok, but he’s not being manny at .286…only 3 hits last night…i’m with devine, before too long tito may want to shake up the lineup a bit…is there some reason that they wouldn’t use pedroia as the leadoff hitter?….and, i’m not sniping sf’s, the yanks have their issues too…

    dc April 7, 2007, 8:15 am
  • Then there you and I disagree, Steve. Bonds had nothing for protection for several years. Did he walk a lot? Yeah. Did he hit 50+ HR? Yes.
    Drew getting batted in (by an Ortiz homer, let’s say) is just as valuable as him batting someone in. Drew would be sort of Damon-ish as a leadoff hitter (speed, good eye, some power). Either way, you have four good to excellent (Youk, Ortiz, Manny, Drew–put them in that order if you want Drew to have RBI opportunities) hitters stacked together. I just think the best plan involves getting guys on as often as possible before the greatest 3-4 in quite some time gets to the plate.

    Devine April 7, 2007, 9:25 am
  • I’m glad you’re not managing. Why do you think people call the intentional walk “the Bonds treatment”? Because he has no protection! The reason Ortiz is what he is is because of Manny behind him. He wouldn’t have hit 54 dingers or had any walkoffs if ManRam wasn’t penciled in at #4.
    A balanced lineup > a topheavy lineup. Plus, you’re also completely overlooking speed and Drew’s splits vs. lefties (not horrible like Trot, but not great, either.)

    Steve April 7, 2007, 4:29 pm
  • Okay, Steve. I’m glad I’m not managing either.

    Devine April 8, 2007, 2:23 pm

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