Dual Game Threads

In less that 10 minutes, I leave work and hop on the BART to attend the Oakland-New York game. I’m dressed as Yogi Berra, complete with shades and deceptively clever phrases at the ready.  In the meantime, Josh Beckett appears (from the gamecast I’m periodically checking) to be struggling in the early innings of his debut with the Sox. Feel free to discuss the Sox game now and the Yanks game later.   

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  • Coco with the triple! Now bring him in for a tie game, please.

    SF April 5, 2006, 9:40 pm
  • Boo!!!! Please, Papi, please…

    SF April 5, 2006, 9:42 pm
  • Hard to complain about Beckett, despite the “shakiness”. One run in 6 innings (will he come out for the seventh after 97 pitches?). It’s the bats that are letting the Sox down tonight.

    SF April 5, 2006, 9:51 pm
  • Trot!
    (is anyone else out there?!)

    SF April 5, 2006, 9:55 pm
  • I’m hangin’ around SF. I was wondering how long Loe was going to be able to hold the Sox down and two seconds later, Trot connected.

    whatever April 5, 2006, 9:58 pm
  • It’ll be interesting to see how Tito decides to close out this game. Stay with Beckett? Timlin? Paps? Foulke?

    whatever April 5, 2006, 10:00 pm
  • I think Alex Gonzales now has his hits for the month of April.

    SF April 5, 2006, 10:00 pm
  • Hmmmm…Yankee game about ready to start. Looks like I’ll be hitting the jump button on the remote for a while

    whatever April 5, 2006, 10:06 pm
  • Argh. 1.2.3. for the Yanks in Oakland.

    YF April 5, 2006, 10:09 pm
  • Beckett out for more. No early season pitch counts for Tito!

    SF April 5, 2006, 10:09 pm
  • Apparently beautiful work by Beckett, even though I couldn’t see it. A bodacious, auspicious beginning.

    SF April 5, 2006, 10:13 pm
  • And Wang gets through 1 unscathed in Oak.

    YF April 5, 2006, 10:18 pm
  • Beckett has definitely improved as the game has gone on. Not too many strikeouts I don’t think though. Still, a good game. The Sox have two on and two out, and I have a hunch that the final score of this game won’t be 2-1. Not with Keith Foulke lurking anyway.

    mattymatty April 5, 2006, 10:25 pm
  • Matsui! See Ya!

    whatever April 5, 2006, 10:27 pm
  • Timlin’s in.

    whatever April 5, 2006, 10:29 pm
  • Matsui is amazing. Sometimes he’s completely on and can hit anything, and other times you can throw anything you want and he can’t hit it. I’m guessing he’s started the season as the former.
    Lead off hit for Texiera. Hopefully Timlin can coax a double play…

    mattymatty April 5, 2006, 10:30 pm
  • Tater for Matsui. Nice.

    YF April 5, 2006, 10:33 pm
  • Stupid move waving that guy around.

    whatever April 5, 2006, 10:38 pm
  • Sox dodge a bullet, yanks 2 on, no outs, Jeter up.

    whatever April 5, 2006, 10:42 pm
  • Papelbon or Foulke in the 9th? This’ll be interesting. I’d rather see J.P. but it’ll probably be Keith.

    Hudson April 5, 2006, 10:45 pm
  • 3 run laser for Sheff, 4-0 Yanks.

    whatever April 5, 2006, 10:46 pm
  • And then ARod gets drilled.

    whatever April 5, 2006, 10:47 pm
  • It’s Paps.

    SF April 5, 2006, 10:48 pm
  • SnoLoGoLo infield tonight.
    (As opposed to YoLoGoLo, YoLoColo, or SnoLoColo.)

    Hudson April 5, 2006, 10:49 pm
  • Paps!

    SF April 5, 2006, 10:55 pm
  • YEAH!!! Sox win, 2-1, and I smell a closer controversy extrodinaire!
    Great win by the Sox.

    mattymatty April 5, 2006, 10:55 pm
  • Papelbon Ks two, gets the save. Beckett and Jonathon looking stellar. Nice win, with an assist from the Rangers’ 3rd base coach.

    Hudson April 5, 2006, 10:56 pm
  • Nice job, no, make that great job by Paps. Foulke in limbo?

    whatever April 5, 2006, 10:56 pm
  • Many rotisserie owners will glow at the sight of an “S,1” next to Papelbon’s line in the box score. Is Keith Foulke happy for the team, or bitter at being displaced? Or both?

    SF April 5, 2006, 10:57 pm
  • Giambi, nice 3-6-3 to end the third.

    whatever April 5, 2006, 11:01 pm
  • Oopsies!

    YF April 5, 2006, 11:13 pm
  • Jeter botches an inning ending double play ball. Hope this doesn’t cost us.

    whatever April 5, 2006, 11:14 pm
  • Oy.

    YF April 5, 2006, 11:17 pm
  • OK, Michael Kay is officially a Huge Idiot. He just said that Frank Thomas is not a Hall of Famer. Then he ran through the guy’s career numbers (proving why he IS a Hall of Famer) and then reiterated that he ISN’T.
    Utter. Moron.

    mattymatty April 5, 2006, 11:40 pm
  • Now he’s comparing Dale Murphy to Frank Thomas. Fortunately Ken Singleton has taken up Thomas’ defense. The whole arguement is just moronic. You CAN’T make the argument that Frank Thomas isn’t a HoFer.

    mattymatty April 5, 2006, 11:45 pm
  • Well, this is nice. Wang deserved better than this.

    whatever April 5, 2006, 11:47 pm
  • More crucially at the moment: C-M Wang: not a hall of fame outing.

    YF April 5, 2006, 11:48 pm
  • Wang pitched pretty well up until this inning though. its up to Sturtze now.

    mattymatty April 5, 2006, 11:49 pm
  • Christ, lucky to get out of that mess still tied.

    whatever April 5, 2006, 11:51 pm
  • Jaret Wright warming in the pen. Oh boy, that’s a confidence booster.

    whatever April 5, 2006, 11:56 pm
  • Damn, straighten that out Georgie. Nice butt-crack shot of the guy in the stands scrambling for the ball.

    whatever April 5, 2006, 11:58 pm
  • Wright is in the game… Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name….

    whatever April 6, 2006, 12:00 am
  • How can you pitch with that much tobacco in your check?

    mattymatty April 6, 2006, 12:02 am
  • Wright is looking downright acceptable.

    mattymatty April 6, 2006, 12:05 am
  • I would say something positive but I don’t want to jinx him.

    whatever April 6, 2006, 12:12 am
  • Get the bat off your shoulder Bernie. Third time down on strikes LOOKING.

    whatever April 6, 2006, 12:15 am
  • Jaret Wright is AWESOME!

    mattymatty April 6, 2006, 12:16 am
  • Quit trying to jinx him matty.

    whatever April 6, 2006, 12:19 am
  • Who is this guy on the mound?

    whatever April 6, 2006, 12:22 am
  • Nothing like giving a game away.

    whatever April 6, 2006, 12:38 am
  • This sux.

    YF April 6, 2006, 12:45 am
  • Farnsworth doesn’t look much better than Wright… oh, he got Chavez. Nice pitch. Now Thomas…

    mattymatty April 6, 2006, 12:58 am
  • Jesus. And the reason the Yanks didn’t sign Thomas is????

    YF April 6, 2006, 1:00 am
  • Oooooo… Looks like this one is over.

    mattymatty April 6, 2006, 1:01 am
  • Don’t worry, YF. Maybe they’ll sign him next year.

    mattymatty April 6, 2006, 1:02 am
  • Feh.

    YF April 6, 2006, 1:12 am
  • Nice win for the Sox. Last year, they wouldn’t have won this.
    Beckett was huge. He struggled initially, but persevered to go seven innings despite lacking an effective curve. That’s what aces do – win when they don’t have their best stuff.
    Papelbon. He was lights out. Not certain he’s replacing Foulke permanently, but hats off to Tito for making the right managerial decision.
    Now, how in hell did the Yankees lose last night? I have to admit that I snickered when I caught the score this morning. ;)

    Craig April 6, 2006, 6:57 am
  • The Yankees lost last night for one two-word reason: Joe Torre.

    Joe in NYC April 6, 2006, 8:11 am
  • Or Wang, who was doing his damnest to be who he really is.

    Brad April 6, 2006, 9:03 am
  • This “blame Joe Torre for every single loss” thing is silly. The Yankees made three atrocious defensive plays, which led to five unearned runs. As a result, they lost.

    Earl April 6, 2006, 9:22 am
  • What? No mention of the shoddy defense?
    Yanks get out of the fourth with a 4-0 lead if Jeter doesn’t boot an inning ending double play ball.
    Then in the eighth Cano botches a grounder with the infield drawn in that allows the go ahead run in.
    And then Torre has his second straight night of strange moves out of the pen.
    Brad, Your comment on Wang proves once again that your not the sharpest pencil in the cup around here. Wang deserved better than what he got last night, and mark my words, he’s going to be a solid pitcher for the Yanks this year.

    whatever April 6, 2006, 9:44 am
  • WE –
    That comment was uncalled for. What’s so unsharp about expecting a pitcher to be what he’s always been? The guy has been an average pitcher at best his entire career, and has yet to prove that he’s capable of actually making through a season. Do you have some kind of stat sheet that I have not seen yet, or are you just basing your comment on hopes and prayers?

    Brad April 6, 2006, 9:50 am
  • And not for nothing, the guy had some very untimely walks and terrible pitches over the middle of the plate.

    Brad April 6, 2006, 9:52 am
  • Brad, I’m not going to spend a lot of time debating Wang with a brick wall.
    Anyone familiar with the Yankees last year knows that Wang was solid for New York last year after being called up in his first year in the Majors. He went 8-5 with a 4.02 era that was close to half a run lower than league average. And by the way, Wang had a lower era than any of the Red Sox starters last year.
    Most baseball analysts I read felt Wang had a big upside going into the year, if he could stay healthy, and continue to improve and people around the Yanks are hopeful he’ll be a good pitcher for the Yanks for years to come.
    After his tender shoulder problem he came back late to win several big games down the stretch to help the Yankees catch and pass Boston for the division.
    Terrible pitches? Wang didn’t give up an extra base hit and the majority of Oakland’s hits off him were ground ball singles. And he got squeezed on two of those BB.
    Were you even watching the game Brad, or did you just take a quick look at the score and the box and make a stupid knee-jerk judgement. Only two of the runs off Wang were earned.
    Quote last night after the game: “I have to make that play,” Jeter said. “Wang was pitching well-he was in a groove, but after that mistake it took him out of it. If I make that play, were out of the inning. They really capitalized on it”.

    whatever April 6, 2006, 10:51 am
  • W/E,
    I agree, Wang pitched well for a #3 starter. He got shafted when Jeter booted the ball. Cano made a costly error also.
    I was surprised at the lack of run support from the Yanks.
    Damon looked like a moron going & missing for that fly ball……..I could hear the snicker from Sox Nation.
    Damn their pitching looks good.

    Lee April 6, 2006, 11:37 am
  • I could yell small sample size for Wang, but I wont. The performance he gave you last night, was along the lines of the performance he’s always have given, and probably always will.
    I did watch the game, and while I’m not simply calling Wang a terrible pitcher I’m just saying that he is what he is. My calls were nowhere near knee-jerk. I saw a guy who was in control for a few innings, then lost it, walked some guys, gave up a two run hit to with the bases loaded and got pulled the next inning after loading them up again. I know he got the short end with Jeter’s play, but he then went on to walk the next guy and then give up the hit.
    As far as being a brick wall, I think you need to take the blinders off WE. I’ve been posting here for a long time, and am not about to take refuge from some moron with a case of homerism so bad he can’t see what’s in front of him. It’s like me saying that I think Clement is the end all because of his FIRST HALF numbers last year. I think I’ll give it a little bit before making that call, just like you should.

    Brad April 6, 2006, 12:03 pm
  • For what its worth, I’m sticking up for Brad here. Wang is a fine pitcher, and he may have some upside, but his major league performance is right in line with his minor league numbers. He’s not a bad guy to have on your staff, and he may (or may not) be above average over the course of a year, but he’s certainly not a study prospect, and he’s injury prone.
    Jeter should have fielded that ball, but even then I don’t think the Yankees would have won.

    mattymatty April 6, 2006, 12:12 pm
  • I’m going to weigh in and say that I think Wang is going to be a very good pitcher. Small sample can work both ways in this argument, Brad. He was above-average last year, but, of course, given the lack of innings he pitched, it’s hard to conclusively say that will last, just as it’s hard to say that it won’t last. FWIW, I thought the Jeter error was a real turning point in the game, and had it not happened, I think Wang was on his way to a solid outing.

    NickYF April 6, 2006, 12:37 pm
  • Yes, its true the Yankee’s will hit the living crap out of the ball this year. But, again, with the overrated Jeter leading the way, they will have shoddy defense, (can Giambi actually play 1st?) and even shoddier pitching. Wang, a number 3 starter, come on fellas! We all know it’s about pitching. The sox have it, and not a bad lineup too. That being said, Sox will make the trip to the WS this year. The spanks will fall to third behind toronto.

    Manny's Mission April 6, 2006, 12:53 pm
  • i’m a little surprised to see not much was said regaurding the routes taken by damon and matsui on those two balls to the wall. with a one run lead in the eighth i’m not sure you go to the wall on the ball hit by bradley. damon played that into a triple. bradley was into his homerun trot out of the batters box. even with damons rubberband arm he could have held him at second. matsui is an expert in bad routes. he seems to have trouble adjusting to different ball parks. call me crazy but i’ll take manny over matsui everytime.

    sf rod April 6, 2006, 3:15 pm
  • Winner for the obvious statement of this year:
    sf rod – “I’ll take Manny of Matsui everytime”
    No kidding, man. hahah.

    Brad April 6, 2006, 4:50 pm
  • “Sox will make the trip to the WS this year.”
    I don’t think the pale hose can make it two years in a row.
    “The spanks will fall to third behind toronto.”
    And Manny will win a gold glove.

    john April 6, 2006, 5:50 pm
  • “Winner for the obvious statement of this year:
    sf rod – “I’ll take Manny of Matsui everytime”
    No kidding, man. hahah.”
    Ummmm, SF Rod was suggesting that Manny is superior defensively, not offensively.

    Craig April 6, 2006, 6:17 pm
  • Well, I had to go out of town for part of the day, and I see I seemed to have stirred things up a bit here.
    Where should I start? How about at the bottom of the barrel (pun intended) with Brilliant Brad and sf rod.
    “I’ll take Manny over Matsui everytime”. Brad has nominated this one for “obvious statement of the year” he thinks Manny is so-o-o-o much better than Matsui.
    Hey guess what boys? The Baseball Think Factory has Manny rated as the ABSOLUTELY WORST left fielder in MLB. Manny is rated at -25. Matsui was rated at -9, so no great shakes there, but still much better than Medusa, I mean Manny.
    Ya know, Manny has the smallest left field to cover in baseball and Matsui has the largest. In fact, that -25 rating for Manny? Well that is park adjusted for little ol’ Fenway’s left field. Otherwise he’s at -32.
    Give me Matsui ANY day of the week, (and apparently, those wise fellows at BTF feel the same way).
    Manny’s Mission. To win the Series again? Ha, that might be Mission Impossible with the way he’s swinging right now. Whiff-whiff-whiff. As for Sox pitching, Schill was good, Wakefield was horrible, and while Beckett settled down and was solid, he was damn lucky he only gave up one run when he struggled early. Timlin gave up what should have been a game tying rip, if it wasn’t hit so hard and that dope third base coach for Texas hadn’t waved the guy home. Was that Dale Sveum? Bottom line here? Sox were lucky to win that game. Yanks were unlucky (perhaps there own fault) in their two losses. Don’t read too much into it. How late was it last year when we caught your fading asses? As for the Yank’s pitching, RJ was good, Moose was solid, I’ll still take Yank’s bullpen with Mariano leading the way, and then there’s Wang.
    I believe I said twice earlier in this thread that Wang deserved better than he got in the game. That was it. And then I gave what I thought was a fair assessment of Wang from last year.
    I DIDN’T say he was f–king Cy Young. Brad, for you to say I have a case of homerism as if to indicate that you don’t is unbelievably laughable. And weren’t you the guy that piped up the other day when I said Schilling was determined to go seven, with some idea that if Tito took Schill out people would be saying Curt can’t go the distance? Now that thought goes beyond moronic and into a whole new realm of idiocy.
    Now, I firmly believe I’m an objective Yankee fan. Look at some of my comments during the game threads. I can be as hard on the Yankees as anyone, even Sox fans, and I had some complimentary things to say about the Sox.
    However, if someone comes up with some shit about the Yanks I think is bogus, well, I might have something to say about it. And if people trash the Yanks, well, I might trash Boston, though I would much prefer to have mutual respect instead.

    whatever April 6, 2006, 6:47 pm
  • The Sox weren’t lucky to win yesterday, WE. They won because they executed when it counted. They didn’t make any defensive mistakes, and they capitalized on the few mistakes that their opponents made. The same can’t be said of the Yankees, who did the first but not the second. Its only one day though. Long season ahead.
    And Whatever, can’t you express yr opinion in less than 500 words?

    mattymatty April 6, 2006, 7:52 pm
  • matty, Beckett was fortunate (lucky) to only give up one run while he struggled early, the NESN boys said as much.
    Boston was lucky that even though Timlin gave up what easily could have been the game-tying hit, it was hit so hard that whoever it was for Texas, I forget, couldn’t score from second on the play.
    The sox were lucky that the Ranger’s 3rd base coach sent the runner as he was a dead duck. If he holds him (which he should have, I hope Buck chewed his ass after the game), it’s bases loaded and one out. Who know’s what might have happened? Lucky. Call it what you want. I call it luck. Yeah, the Sox did what they had to do to win. No doubt. But there was some luck involved.
    As for the length of some of my posts, when you have a lot of points to address, it may take a lot of words. I like to make myself perfectly clear, leave no doubt about what I’m thinking, try to explain why I’m thinking that way, and I guess, try to somehow prove my point, but of course, THAT’S a tall order.
    Do you have a problem with this? Am I doing you some sort of disservice by sometimes being, heh heh, long winded?
    If you find my posts to be long, boring, and perhaps stupid, I suggest you skip over them and go on to the next.
    Maybe I’ll try to be less vociferous in the future.
    Damn, look at the length of this post. There I go again.

    whatever April 6, 2006, 8:48 pm
  • So when the Red Sox win they’re lucky, and when the yankees win they’re talented. Theres always luck involved in baseball. Its part of the game. I don’t mind you point it out (I agree, they were lucky to a certain extent) but I object to passing a Red Sox win off as lucky with no mention of anything else.
    As for the length of your posts, I didn’t mean to sound as harsh as I did. Maybe it would do me better to spelll things out a bit more.

    mattymatty April 6, 2006, 8:54 pm
  • Now matty, I didn’t say that.
    You know what? When the Yanks won 4 of 5 from ’96-2000 they were lucky as hell. They were a great team but almost all the breaks went there way. You couldn’t possibly win 4 of 5 titles without having great luck.
    On the other hand, luck hasn’t been too kind to the Yankees since then. And of course, their teams, especially in the last couple of years haven’t been as good either. whisper: don’t tell anyone, but it’s their starting pitching.

    whatever April 6, 2006, 9:13 pm
  • The game thread that won’t die…
    Keep it up everyone, we want 100 comments!

    SF April 6, 2006, 9:53 pm
  • As far as the Sox win the other night, luck was an element in the sense that without the Texeira/3rd base coach baserunning gaffe, we’d have likely had a tie ballgame at the very least. WE is correct about that. There really was no reason to send Texeira. It was a bonehead move and I guess that can be perceived as a kind of luck.
    As far as Beckett goes, say what you want but the bottom line is he persevered without some of his best stuff namely his 12 to 6 curve. That’s not really luck, that’s what good pitchers do. They find a way to put their team in a position to win when they don’t have it.
    And that WE is precisely what happened. Manny worked a walk, Trot capitalized on a mistake and put it in the right field stands. Paps came in the ninth and rolled the Rangers.
    As for the Yankees, they just played poorly. Jeter and Cano made critical mistakes in the field as did Damon (and I guess Matsui but I didn’t see that play). There wasn’t anything unlucky about it. It happens and will again.

    Craig April 7, 2006, 6:52 am
  • Mutual respect, WE? In your post you chimed in like a fat kid behind a keyboard calling some of us bottom of the barrel, moron, and other immature names.
    Anytime you think you would like –
    Nevermind, arguing with a guy who likes to toss around insults on the internet is is like winning the special olympics – even if you win…
    Wang is not only average, he’s barely that, and later this year you’ll be forced to realize that and look like the fool I’m sure you are.
    PS _ you are the only person on this earth that thinks Matsui is better than Manny. It’s apples and oranges here. The two are not even on the same planet.

    Brad April 7, 2006, 9:18 am
  • Craig,
    OK, so we agree the Rangers third base coach screwed up and that was lucky for the Sox.
    As for Beckett, he did buckle down and was tough his last three innings, keeping the Sox close and giving them a chance to win.
    But I did here someone in the NESN studios on the post game show say that Beckett was fortunate (lucky) to only allow one run through the first four innings after struggling, throwing 81 pitches, and stranding a number of baserunners. I was watching the actual game on the Rangers Fox Sports channel and the Rangers announcers were really lamenting the fact Beckett wiggled out of trouble early and yes, actually used the word, “lucky”.
    Now, I can see your point, Beckett might have not had his best stuff, and he did bear down and made tough pitches when he had to.
    No luck involved when Manny got on and Trot jacked one. That’s for sure.
    As for the Yanks, well, without rehashing those two tough losses to the A’s, I’ll just say Wang was unlucky when after inducing an easy double play ground ball to get out of the inning, that Jeter had to muff it, allowing 3 runs to eventually score, and knock Wang out of his rhythmn.
    And of course, some poor play by the Yanks, and some head-scratching moves by Torre also contributed heavily to the defeats.

    whatever April 7, 2006, 11:18 am
  • Why is it luck when a pitcher gets out of a jam by striking a guy out or inducing a popup or a ground out, but it’s not luck when a player hits a home run? I don’t see a big difference there – both rely on execution, and though the pitcher relies on other players to help execute when he doesn’t strike a guy out it seems like a really tenuous distinction.

    SF April 7, 2006, 12:10 pm
  • Apparently, Brad is pretty upset with me. Let’s see if I can make amends (don’t count on it).
    Brad, perhaps I was a little too harsh when I felt some of your comments were..uh..lacking. I was probably (no probablys about it) in a surly mood after those two tough losses the Yanks suffered, and I could have challenged your comments without bringing up dull pencils, brick walls, and severe cases of idiocy.
    However, you responded with some less than complimentary remarks about myself. I especially liked that fat kid behind the keyboard one. I had to chuckle, I’ve been tall and skinny my whole life. And by the way Brad, childhood obesity is a major problem in this country to the point that former President Clinton has made it a priority of his to do something about.So don’t poke fun at the chubby little ones in this country who have been scarfing down too many fries and twinkies.
    If you want to poke fun at someone that deserves it, zero in on the Bush Administration. You’ll have a field day.
    As for Wang, we’ll see. I’d be happy with about 14 wins and an era around 4. Time will tell.
    On the Manny vs, Matsui debate, you’ve lost sight of the point Brad.
    Nobody is saying Matsui is Manny’s equal offensively, far from it. But most people would give Matsui the edge over Manny on defense, whether you agree or not. Now I’m not saying Matsui is a good left fielder, mostly because his range isn’t great, but he usually plays a smart left field, and doesn’t often make mistakes.
    Now Manny, come on. Anybody that has watched Manny out there since he’s been a Sox knows he’s an adventure waiting to happen.
    Anyway Brad, I’ll try to be a little more civil in the future, even if I think some of your points are mondo bizzaro. Or maybe I’ll just ignore.

    whatever April 7, 2006, 12:27 pm
  • I think most of the references to luck have been things that happened that shouldn’t have, or things that didn’t happen that should have.
    For example, Steve Smith shouldn’t have sent the runner in on that play. He did, and he’s thrown out. Lucky for the Sox.
    Derek Jeter should have made the play on that double play ball, he didn’t. Unlucky for Wang and the Yanks.
    As for the scenario you describe, I don’t see any luck there, just execution.

    whatever April 7, 2006, 12:45 pm
  • I agree –
    As far as luck is concerned, I’ve played baseball my whole life, and luck has absolutely everything to do with the game. When the balls bounce your way, things go well, and that’s the skinny.
    On another note, how about you guys wishing me some luck. As many of you know from previous posts, I played baseball in college and then on the Cape, and this Saturday and Sunday I’ve been invited to a tryout with the local independent leauge team, New Haven Cutters. I have not played in a just under a year, but have been working out pretty hard, and hopefully things will go well. I won’t have to quit my job or anything, so it should be fun.

    Brad April 7, 2006, 3:06 pm
  • good luck, Brad! Pretend the ball is Curt Schilling while stumping for Bush.

    NickYF April 7, 2006, 3:11 pm
  • WE, when you say that Beckett was lucky to get out of the first inning, it kind of seems like you are disrespecting him to me. he got out of a tough situation by making the right pitches at the right time. Was that luck or not? As for Wang, yes, he should have been out of the inning, but the problem was that he couldn’t regroup after the Jeter error. Honestly, I didn’t see the game, only the highlights, but from everyone else’s comments, that’s how it seems to me. A great pitcher can regroup. An average one often can’t. That’s my point. If you disagree with me, so be it. If you have something constructive to say to me or anyone else, that’s great. I’ll listn. But let’s not get personal here, guys. The fact that we are generally civil and respectful of one another is one of the best things about this site, IMO. And I hope that doesn’t change.

    Laura April 7, 2006, 3:17 pm
  • Best of luck Brad. Anyone who keeps after something they’d like to achieve is to be admired.
    If you don’t mind ME asking, what position do you play?

    whatever April 7, 2006, 3:18 pm
  • Good luck, Brad. Or rather, Good executing!

    SF April 7, 2006, 3:23 pm
  • Yeah, I’d say break a leg, but that probably would be no good for a baseball tryout. =) So have fun and I hope you make it!

    Laura April 7, 2006, 3:38 pm
  • Laura,
    I think this one’s getting beat to death, but since SF wants 100 posts, what the hell.
    I don’t believe I said Beckett was lucky the first inning, rather the first four innings when he struggled and had his pitch count up to 81.
    How could I, as a Yankee fan for more years than I want to admit, disrespect Beckett after the way he smoked us in the 2003 Series?
    I absolutely agree, when the going got tough, Beckett got himself out of trouble. On the other hand, after Jeter’s error, Wang could not. And that, often times, is the difference between the great, and the not so great.
    As for your point about civility, well, I’m trying to learn here. Perhaps I’ve spent too much time in aggressive, no-holds barred, take no prisoners chats, and am programed that way.
    The thing is Laura, there’s a fine line between disagreeing with someone and kidding or chiding them about it, or disagreeing with someone and insulting them. People take things in different ways, and when you can’t see a person’s face, or hear their tone of voice, what was being said can be misconstrued. Not always, but sometimes.
    But I really meant that remark about mutual respect I made earlier in this thread, and any unpleasant remarks made earlier are hopefully forgotten, and by the way, were mostly my fault.

    whatever April 7, 2006, 3:54 pm
  • Thanks everyone –
    I play second and short, but I get the feeling that they are going to try me at third, which I played in college. I’m hoping for any of them, because I know they are short on good defense, which I have. The scout that came to my house to ask if I was interested said that they are open to all three, but they lost their third baseman, who was really good, to the Marlin’s minor league team after spring training.
    I had the inside track however becuase my college hitting coach is now the bench coach for them, which is how my name came up at all.

    Brad April 7, 2006, 4:03 pm
  • Well then, you’ve got a mentor on the squad, so that should help.

    whatever April 7, 2006, 4:07 pm
  • are we to 100 yet?
    Winner for the obvious statement of this year:
    brad- “When the balls bounce your way, things go well”
    No kidding, man. hahah.
    so…good luck with your balls.

    sf rod April 7, 2006, 4:09 pm
  • They actually play their home games at the old New Haven Ravens stadium, which is also the Yale baseball stadium, so the infield is so nice it’s almost scary. I was invited to spring training my last year of college, and although I was cut quickly, those infields were not much better than that of Yale’s. On a great infield, the balls usually bounce where you expect them too. Usually.

    Brad April 7, 2006, 4:13 pm
  • Oh, unless you’re Edgar Renteria.

    Brad April 7, 2006, 4:16 pm
  • The New Havens Ravens. That’s got a nice ring to it.

    whatever April 7, 2006, 4:30 pm
  • Yeah, the Ravens were a good team a few years ago. They were the AA affiliate of the Rockies during the 90’s, and then for the Blue Jays until 2003. But, since ’03 the newly formes Bridgeport Bluefish have outdrawn them every year, so the closed camp. Last year, they opened the park to the New Haven Cutters which play in the Northeast Independent League after they left their Massachusetts home.

    Brad April 7, 2006, 4:37 pm
  • Let me know if you see Darryl Strawberry trying out. He owes me money.

    SF April 7, 2006, 4:51 pm
  • SF,
    I’m shocked. You weren’t one of Darryl enablers when he was having drug problems were you?

    whatever April 7, 2006, 4:54 pm
  • By the way SF, you were the 100th poster on this thread. Don’t you win a prize or something?

    whatever April 7, 2006, 4:57 pm
  • Good job, everyone! On to the next thread…

    mattymatty April 7, 2006, 5:07 pm

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