Fly-On-The-Wall: Sox-Yanks Gamer XIV

Nick and ag had a chat today, mourning the impending demise of the Yankees’ season.

ag: baseball has me down.  I’ve got a moon shot draw from the hearts deck of sociopathic tendencies.

Nick: kris kristoferrson would play me in the movie of my life

ag: I guess that leaves me with Nick Nolte

Nick: Nick Nolte versus Kris in the battle of grizzled tell-it-like-it-is men.  for the Lee Marvin award

Nick: Bad song, and you can’t even dance to it.

ag: That’s brutal

Nick: yep.  Can’t win, so take it out on the guy with the full bladder.  you always know when an empire is crumbling by the stupidity of its foot soldiers.

ag: Onward Bronxian soldiers.  Except General Joe ran into Genghis Maddon and Tito The Great, and our little Napoleons fight their battle of hold-your-water-you-can’t-go-to-the-loo.

Lineups follow, comment away…

Byrd facing Ponson feels so ripe for sniping but too easy, so what’s the point?

J. Ellsbury rf .263
D. Pedroia 2b .315
D. Ortiz dh .263
K. Youkilis 1b .319
J. Bay lf .341
J. Lowrie 3b .296
J. Varitek c .223
A. Cora ss .278
C. Crisp cf .263
P. Byrd 4.61
NY Yankees
J. Damon cf .313
D. Jeter ss .294
B. Abreu rf .298
A. Rodriguez 3b .308
J. Giambi 1b .247
X. Nady lf .321
H. Matsui dh .310
R. Cano 2b .269
I. Rodriguez c .283
S. Ponson 4.67

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  • With Papi batting, Obie points out on ESPN that Ruth homered against Boston in the first game played at the Stadium, a 3-run homer in a 4-1 NYY victory.
    Sutcliffe: “and that was the beginning of the Curse of the Babe.”
    Um, no. The beginning of the “curse” was Dan Shaughnessey.
    shut up, Sut.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 7:14 pm
  • BAY! 2-0!

    Devine August 27, 2008, 7:17 pm
  • Bay doubles in 2.
    How did Nady not catch that? That was very, very catchable.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 7:17 pm
  • And Bay saves the Sox from an embarrassing failure to score off Ponson with second and third, one out by doubling in two after a Youk strikeout.
    I like Jason Bay!

    Micah-SF August 27, 2008, 7:17 pm
  • I’m really looking forward to watching this Orioles-Indians game. I mean, the Red Sox-Yankees game.
    Seriously, could anyone have guessed back in February that we’d be watching Ponson v. Byrd in The Toilet during the majestic last days of Yankee Stadium?

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 7:19 pm
  • Lowrie walks. 24 pitches. I love the Aruban Assassin.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 7:20 pm
  • Ugh, stupid Abreu.

    Micah-SF August 27, 2008, 7:23 pm
  • Come on. Don’t run on A-broo.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 7:25 pm
  • Gameday says Strike 3 was a gift.

    Micah-SF August 27, 2008, 7:27 pm
  • Sounds like a good play by Ellsbury on the radio.

    Devine August 27, 2008, 7:30 pm
  • This game is going pretty much the way I expected it to.

    Micah-SF August 27, 2008, 7:35 pm
  • This game is going pretty much the way I expected it to.

    Micah-SF August 27, 2008, 7:35 pm
  • Robi Cano, taking cuts, taking a seat.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 7:50 pm
  • Minnesota won today; Chicago is a little behind in the early going — FWIW.

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 7:54 pm
  • Typing “Minnesota” and “Chicago” made me think — which teams are named for the *city* in which they reside, as opposed to the *state*?
    And what drives which the franchise chooses?
    That is: why aren’t they the Minneapolis Twins? Why not the Massachusetts Red Sox (or New England Red Sox)? The Illinois White Sox? The Kansas Royals? The Maryland Orioles?
    Surely someone has written about this before…

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 7:59 pm
  • They’re letting Sir Sidney the Pontoon settle down? Ugh.

    Micah-SF August 27, 2008, 8:00 pm
  • This is starting to turn into the least-likely pitcher’s duel of all time.

    Brownie August 27, 2008, 8:10 pm
  • I’m pretty sure you just about guaranteed that Byrd gives up 4 runs in this inning, Brownie.

    stuck working August 27, 2008, 8:16 pm
  • > which teams are named for the *city*
    Teams named after the city in which they play, which is right and proper:
    Atlanta Braves
    Baltimore Orioles
    Boston Red Sox
    Chicago Cubs
    Chicago White Sox
    Cincinnati Reds
    Cleveland Indians
    Detroit Tigers
    Houston Astros
    Kansas City Royals
    Los Angeles Dodgers
    Milwaukee Brewers
    Minnesota Twins
    New York Mets
    New York Yankees
    Oakland Athletics
    Philadelphia Phillies
    Pittsburgh Pirates
    San Diego Padres
    San Francisco Giants
    Seattle Mariners
    St. Louis Cardinals
    Toronto Blue Jays
    Washington Nationals (a federal district I guess, but it works. Still would have been cool if they were the Washington Grays)
    Stupidly-named teams who claim states, or cities in which they don’t play, as home:
    Arizona Diamondbacks
    Colorado Rockies
    Florida Marlins
    Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
    Tampa Bay Rays
    Team names that are not stupid because behind his beard is a third fist:
    Texas Rangers

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:18 pm
  • the least-likely pitcher’s duel of all time.
    I might say the “least likeable” pitcher’s duel, too. I hate both these guys.

    SF August 27, 2008, 8:21 pm
  • Oops.. left the stupid Twins in the right and proper list, which is why I thought your idea was interesting to begin with, Hudosn.. Should be the Twin-City Twins! And they are in the Stupidly-named list accordingly.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:22 pm
  • erm.. Hudson rather.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:24 pm
  • Funny, but shouldn’t Ponson be one of the smaller targets of YF ire this season? Despite all expectations, he really hasn’t done so badly.

    SF August 27, 2008, 8:24 pm
  • Struck him out with the runner at 3rd. One more!
    Damn, Matsui…for whatever reason, I think he’s likely to drive a run in.

    Devine August 27, 2008, 8:24 pm
  • > shouldn’t Ponson be one of the smaller targets of YF ire this season?

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:26 pm
  • Big chance for Robi here. Behind 0-2, he taks out of the zone. The 1-2 just misses the corner. 2-2 coming.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:28 pm
  • The 2-2: ripped past a diving Pedroia to tie the game. Dusty thumps his fist into the turf in frustration.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:28 pm
  • Dern.

    Devine August 27, 2008, 8:29 pm
  • Oh, Byrd, how I hate thee. Let me count the ways…
    one, two, three, four, five, six — aw, forget it.

    SF August 27, 2008, 8:30 pm
  • IRod flies out to right to end the inning. 9-1-2 coming up for the Sox.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:30 pm
  • Getting out of that tied was about the best I was hoping for. Bleh.

    Micah-SF August 27, 2008, 8:31 pm
  • Cameo of Brian Cashman, alone in his luxury box… VP, Assistant GM, and active participant.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:34 pm
  • Coco Ks, but Jacoby singles past a non-diving Cano.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:35 pm
  • AG: for the sake of argument, I’ll defend the naming of the Twins. Calling them the Minneapolis-St. Paul Twins would be the far stupider choice since its redundancy is obvious. And then what are you going to do- pick one? They can’t be the Minneapolis Twins because the whole point of the name is that it’s both.
    Ergo, here’s my addendum: when the team’s name indicates its location, it’s then acceptable for the state rather than the city to be included in the team name. For example, the Angels play in Anaheim, which is Orange County. Although it would be bad for other reasons, the California Oranges would thus be an acceptable team name.

    stuck working August 27, 2008, 8:37 pm
  • Great piece of hitting by Dusty to put the ball on the ground in the hole to the weak side as Cano was covering the bag on the hit and run. Speedy Ellsbury easily at third.
    Nice play, nice hitting. Now Ortiz to make YFs sweat.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:37 pm
  • Fair argument, stuck, but I think it’s only for the fact that Minneapolis is hard to spell and harder to fit on a jersey.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:39 pm
  • and the walk loads teh bases for Yooks.
    I like our chances here.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 8:39 pm
  • Robertson’s in the pen as Ortiz is put on base to load them. Now the greek god of perspiration does his best pitch for right left-hitting guard.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:40 pm
  • Edwar Ramirez also up in the Yanks pen.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:41 pm
  • The 2-0 looked pretty good but it’s now 3-0. Youk takes all the way to make it 3-1.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:41 pm
  • The 3-1 is fouled off to make it full. Payoff: chopped on the ground up third. Reset.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:42 pm
  • Full count, loaded, one away. Inside, Ellsbury walks home.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:43 pm
  • The 2-0 was definitely a strike.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:43 pm
  • Gotta step out for a minute. Good games, good luck all.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:44 pm
  • Oof.. Bay takes it to the track with a SF to give Boston a 4-2 lead. okey. now out.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 8:44 pm
  • Not bad, not bad.

    Devine August 27, 2008, 8:45 pm
  • Well, Ponson was bad but he wasn’t awful.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 8:46 pm
  • Gerbs: Fine work, fine work. Seems the offenders are (pretty much) all relatively new teams…
    (Meanwhile, the Massachusett-Vermont-New Hampshire-Maine-Rhode Island-and-half-of-Connecticut Red Sox take a 4-2 lead on the Bronx Yankees after Pontoon walks in a run and gives up a sac fly. Girardi with the hook.)

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 8:46 pm
  • “greek god of perspiration”
    Nice one, AG.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 8:46 pm
  • Was really counting on a GIDP from Jeter there.

    stuck working August 27, 2008, 8:57 pm
  • Amazingly, Byrd makes it through 5 unscathed. I say he goes back out, but with a short leash.

    Micah-SF August 27, 2008, 9:02 pm
  • ESPN flashes the standings for the seventeenth time..
    Grandpa: “Dong, where is grandpa’s playoff aspiration”
    Dong: “As-pir-a-tion??? Lake.. Deep Lake!!”

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 9:02 pm
  • Edwar Ramirez thanks the ERA Gods for the bottom third of the Sox lineup. God, they’re awful.

    Micah-SF August 27, 2008, 9:03 pm
  • Marte sighting. Nady falls behind 1-2.. takes away to make it deuces. The 2-2: down swinging. Byrd is throwing Byrdseed.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 9:10 pm
  • Matsui takes a ball, then wayyyy in front of the breaking pitch is now 1-1. Byrd misses high. The 2-1: breaking pitch low. 3-1: Matsui was looking fastball and got one, but away off the end of the bat and flies out to left.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 9:12 pm
  • 6 IP, 2 ER…I’ll take it!

    Devine August 27, 2008, 9:12 pm
  • Damn. There’s a good mythbusters on tonight. NASA myths. a new one.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:15 pm
  • Dmaso Marte faces Jacoby Ellsbury and misses on his first cut to go behind 0-1. Takes inside. The 1-1 is also tight. The 2-1 catches the outside corner. Deuces: down looking on the outside corner. Looked a bit away, but good pitch. Dusty up.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 9:16 pm
  • Pedroia takes ball one, then pulls the 1-0 foul up third. Same result on the 1-1. In a 1-2 hole: Pedroia takes a bit outside for deuces. The 2-2: fouled back.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 9:18 pm
  • Reset deuces: breaking pitch at the ankles but pulled up third.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 9:19 pm
  • So today was the annual Boston-NY media game?

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:20 pm
  • Marte delivers another 2-2: ripped on the pull side into the third base stand. Yet another 2-2: Marte misses to make it full. The payoff: popped straight back.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 9:20 pm
  • Another full count: Dusty swings at a diving slider coming in on his ankles.. nice pitch by Marte. Papi to the plate. And I am out for a bit.

    attackgerbil August 27, 2008, 9:21 pm
  • And the Democratic nominee is now officially some guy from Illinois.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:23 pm
  • Still a way close game…who’s in for the 7th?

    Devine August 27, 2008, 9:24 pm
  • Delcarmen…

    Devine August 27, 2008, 9:26 pm
  • Why does Tito use MDC against the Yankees? Ugh, this is not going to be a fun inning.

    Micah-SF August 27, 2008, 9:27 pm
  • Nice K from Lil’ manny.
    Wait. Do we still have to all him Lil’ Manny?

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:30 pm
  • If he keeps throwing solid innings like that, IBM, we can drop the “Li’l” in a year or so.

    stuck working August 27, 2008, 9:35 pm
  • Nice inning from MDC.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:35 pm
  • Ray 1, Tor 0, top 9.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:36 pm
  • Don’t be a puss, Delcarmen…there are two down and you have a 2-run lead.
    There ya go, after the 3-0 count, decides to actually pitch to him and he pops up. 3 up, 3 down. Woo Delcarmen! Thanks for not repeating last night.
    This is still so tense.

    Devine August 27, 2008, 9:36 pm
  • And I am thankfully proven dead wrong about MDC tonight. More of that, please.

    Micah-SF August 27, 2008, 9:38 pm
  • Let me say this AGAIN: I LOVE JASON FUCKING BAY!!!

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:41 pm
  • F-ing Abreu and the wall…that was gross.

    walein August 27, 2008, 9:41 pm
  • okay, that was hysterical. That wall is abreu’s kryptonite

    ponch - sf August 27, 2008, 9:41 pm
  • Bill–
    That was Abreu’s triple more than Jason’s. Not saying he isn’t a good player but c’mon.

    walein August 27, 2008, 9:42 pm
  • Tampa Bay wins, Red Sox score and are likely to score again (runner at 3rd, none out). SWEET! Krueg is gonna be pissed at Abreu (some more) it sounds like (bad play near the wall).

    Devine August 27, 2008, 9:42 pm

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:42 pm
  • Wal, I was typing mine at the same time. So obviously I agree.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:43 pm
  • Jason Bay: He’s officially a great pickup in my book…

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 9:44 pm
  • Hello gentlemen! Glad to come home to favorable score. F*cking Tampa winning 1-0.
    Wow, that was a horrible play by Abreu. How’d that guy get a gold glove?

    Atheose August 27, 2008, 9:45 pm
  • Dave Eiland. Somewhere in my clip file is an Iowa Cubs-Columbus Clippers game story, dateline Des Moines, in which Dave Eiland complains to me about not getting recalled back to the Yankees.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:46 pm
  • Walein, the misplay by Abreau, Manny wouldn’t have caught that, either.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:47 pm
  • Tek walks to lead ’em, Robertson up in the pen.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:47 pm
  • Weak fly to Damon still works as a sacrifice.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:49 pm
  • Cora gets it down with a sac fly, 6-2 Sox.

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 9:49 pm
  • RBI single for Covelli. NYY fans now booing A-Rod.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:51 pm
  • God bless coco!

    Atheose August 27, 2008, 9:51 pm
  • Super-awesome.

    Devine August 27, 2008, 9:51 pm
  • And now Crisp makes the lead grand-slam-proof with a single, 7-2. Still have runners on 1st and 2nd, 1 out.

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 9:51 pm
  • I keep waiting for the day when a ball is hit to Damon, he tries to throw a runner out, and his arms just fall off his body, like a zombie in Shawn of the Dead.

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 9:53 pm
  • We have officially cleared the suck portion of the lineup for next inning with Ellsbury up and 1 down.

    Devine August 27, 2008, 9:54 pm
  • Ells singles to load ’em for the second time in the inning. Pedro looks to the final nail.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:55 pm
  • The bottom of the order did OK last night, no?

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 9:55 pm
  • PEDRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    (sorry, yfs.)

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:56 pm
  • And now Crisp makes the lead grand-slam-proof
    But not quite “two three-run homer proof”!

    SF August 27, 2008, 9:56 pm
  • Want to light up a cigarette after that one.

    Devine August 27, 2008, 9:57 pm
  • Pedro just made it two-grand-slam proof, though.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:57 pm
  • lucky seven!

    SF August 27, 2008, 9:58 pm
  • This lead is even Hansen proof.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:58 pm
  • >>> But not quite “two three-run homer proof”! <<< True, SF... Formerly known as "Not Gagne- Proof."

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 9:58 pm
  • Don’t tempt fate, Bill!

    Atheose August 27, 2008, 9:59 pm
  • the thing I hate about these blowouts is that you know it’s hell to pay tomorrow. Can even remember how many times that’s happened. And we need a good start out of Lester tomorrow.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 9:59 pm
  • Sorry. Can’t even remember …

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 10:00 pm
  • Successful road trip…
    Too early?

    Devine August 27, 2008, 10:02 pm
  • Michael Kay sounds like someone who woke up after a long Friday night at the bar and the cold pizza he thought was in the fridge is actually sitting, face down, in his cat’s litter box.

    SF August 27, 2008, 10:03 pm
  • Okay…just have Oki warming in case Timlin lets them within 5, all right Tito?

    Devine August 27, 2008, 10:04 pm
  • Night all…hope I come home to uneventful victory.

    Devine August 27, 2008, 10:04 pm
  • >>> […] like someone who woke up after a long Friday night at the bar and the cold pizza he thought was in the fridge is actually sitting, face down, in his cat’s litter box. <<< This sounds uncomfortably like someone speaking from experience...

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 10:07 pm
  • Bill: You’re all too right. Anecdotally, it does feel like the Sox bats tend to go cold the day after a blowout.

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 10:09 pm
  • Thank God this hasn’t become a beanball war. But with the meathead gone …

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 10:12 pm
  • I know you YFs don’t know what to think. Well, I don’t know what to think, either. This is as weird to me as it is to you.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 10:13 pm
  • I hate cats, Hudson. I have also never lived with someone with a cat. It’s more of a strained metaphor than anything else!

    SF August 27, 2008, 10:14 pm
  • Cats are good as long as you don’t get a crappy one. I guess that’s true for all pets.
    Can you imagine this lineup when Cora and Crisp are replaced by Lowell and Drew?

    Atheose August 27, 2008, 10:16 pm
  • Britton looks like Pyle from Full Metal Jacket. Vincent D’Onofrio, or however it’s spelled.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 10:17 pm
  • Was Kotsay set to pinch-hit for Covelli?

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 10:18 pm
  • And Timlin still isn’t Giambi-proof.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 27, 2008, 10:20 pm
  • Timlin vs Giambi. Shudder.

    Atheose August 27, 2008, 10:20 pm
  • ESPN broadcaster: “Timlin’s a team player… he’s been on two world championship teams.”
    The other broadcaster just corrected him, mentioning the two Toronto teams.

    Atheose August 27, 2008, 10:21 pm
  • I have never had a “crappy” cat. If you get them young and treat them right, you won’t have problems. (No, this has nothing to do with baseball that I can think of, unless it’s some kind of draft/farm team metaphor.)

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 10:23 pm
  • Timlin unhelpfully sending the Yankees into tomorrow on an up-note, relatively speaking. Bleh.

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 10:24 pm
  • Ah, but IRod restores the dismal ending for New York.
    Tomorrow is a good day for schaenfreude-lovin’ Sox fans to savor both the New York Post and New York Daily News.

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 10:26 pm
  • No ground gained as the Rays and the Twinkies win. Chicago loses, but unless they collapse that’s not much help… (Been rooting for the White Sox to go on a tear and Minneapolis to collapse.)

    Hudson August 27, 2008, 10:28 pm
  • Picky, picky, Hudson. Can’t you just enjoy a massive beatdown? God, I’m positively panting at the possibility of a sweep. Who cares about the standings when you’re smacking around the Yankees??

    stuck working August 27, 2008, 10:30 pm
  • By the way SF, I started watching Arrested Development again at your insistance… it’s BRILLIANT. The humor is so subtle it’s great. Oh, and they’re bringing it back to TV with new episodes… check it out on imdb.

    Atheose August 27, 2008, 10:30 pm
  • both jason bay and dustin pedroia singularly had more rbi than the yankees lineup collectively tonite.

    sf rod August 27, 2008, 10:31 pm
  • Okay, I have to say something here. Last year, when the Yankees lost the division for the first time in like 30 years, then lost to the Indians in the first round, Joe Torre was treated like garbage. I said then that as much as I hate the Yankees I respected Torre and despite his failings, wishing for Torre’s demise was like killing the goose that laid the golden eggs. And so here we are, nearly a year later. While Girardi may prove me wrong in the future, how are Yank fans going to feel when the Yankees not only don’t win the division, but don’t make the playoffs? Gee, that never happened under Torre. Flame throwing, MAYBE, but by god the crucifixion of Joe Torre was brutal, and the rosy eyed statements of those Yank fans who decried Torre and saw the future so brightly … Well, let me just say, I told you so.

    Brian Houk SF August 27, 2008, 11:06 pm
  • Ath: yeah, Arrested Development is one of the best shows of all time.
    I don’t think they’re making new episodes, but it appears they ARE making a movie, finally. It should be awesome.
    Also: I love Pedroia and his amazing midget powers so very much. NAIL IN THE COFFIN!

    Micah-SF August 28, 2008, 3:49 am
  • Glad to hear, Ath, it is a great show. I may have to watch the whole thing again.
    As for the comment about Torre above, I don’t think it is at all relevant. I don’t see how Torre (and I was a big booster) could have had any more impact on this team than Girardi has had. Torre doesn’t have magic powers over Wang’s ankle, or Joba’s shoulder, or any other body part. Torre would be skippering the same floundering team that Girardi is. Though I thought the Yankees handled the Torre situation terribly, I think that the managerial position has had a lot less impact on the team than, say, the injuries to the starting rotation, or the offense’s ability to hit in situations. I think the antagonism of the above comment is a bit off-putting.

    SF August 28, 2008, 6:51 am
  • Picky, picky, Hudson. Can’t you just enjoy a massive beatdown? God, I’m positively panting at the possibility of a sweep. Who cares about the standings when you’re smacking around the Yankees??
    Here, here, brotha. Games like that are sooo much fun. As soon as that ball left Pedroia’s bat I started chuckling. Freakin’ sweet.

    DUFF - SF August 28, 2008, 8:30 am
  • SF, what I found off-putting was the attitude that Yankee fans showed for Torre last year.
    Here is what I wrote last October
    “Bobby Cox is probably the closest equivalent to the accomplishments of Joe Torre in THIS era… Who believes Bobby Cox could hold Joe’s jock as a manager? Let me reiterate what we all know that Joe presided over 4 WS winning teams, 6 ALCS winners and won the AL east a mind boggling 11 times in a row, throughout his Yankee tenure. Oh yeah, finished 2nd in the AL east ONCE but won the wild card after a 21-29 start!!
    Boy you guys are tough on a guy that no matter what you say has presided over the Yankees being feared for virtually the entire time he has managed them and at no time did the Yanks come close to having a lousy year.
    Okay… So the Yanks didn’t win the division and lost in the first round a couple of times.
    Jeez not for nothing but I think there is a crapload of teams with great traditions that would kill for EVEN a friggin wildcard slot!
    Will the Yankees become the Orioles? Maybe not, and maybe with Joe at the helm they won’t ever be THE DAMNED YANKEES again, I am willing to bet that if they toss Joe aside it’ll be a long time before they are again THE DAMNED YANKEES and it won’t last nearly so long as this time around. Believe it, remember it was told to you…”
    So, anyway, it’s only the first year of Girardi but the Yankees won’t make the playoffs for the first time in practically a generation.
    Maybe it’s too soon for an “I told you so”, and maybe Girardi will get them there next year. BUT maybe he won’t.

    Brian Houk SF August 29, 2008, 12:37 am
  • brian, i’m one of those “entitled” yankee fans who so easily gets under the skin of so many of you sf’s, because i supposedly think the yankees should win every year…believe it or not, the yankees don’t win every year, nor should they…that would get boring, right?…in fact, over the years, not only have the yanks not won every world series, they failed to qualify more often than not, going through long [for them] stretches without making the playoffs…torre was a great manager for the yankees, and while i still disagree with sf about the details of his departure, the yankees have actually fired some pretty successful managers in the past, just because they felt a change was needed:
    stengel, martin [3 or 4 times]…

    dc August 29, 2008, 6:41 am

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