From the “Tough, Fragile, or Cursed?” Department:

Carl Pavano has two broken ribs.

From the Yahoo: “After the accident, Pavano pitched four shutout innings that night for Class A Tampa at Brevard County, the first of three rehab starts.”

16 comments… add one
  • One might add “Stupid.”

    attackgerbil August 28, 2006, 8:55 pm
  • And “arrogant”, as well.

    SF August 28, 2006, 9:43 pm
  • Is this f—ing guy for real? I mean, seriously? You couldn’t make this stuff up. I don’t ever recall someone going from the crown jewel of a free agent class to a complete joke. The constant injuries, the bruised buttocks, and now this?
    Hey, this should cheer A-Rod up, the boos this guy hears will be the loudest in the history of the Stadium.
    You know, if he ever pitches again.

    YFinBeantown August 28, 2006, 9:58 pm
  • Stick a fork in him.

    Sam August 28, 2006, 10:04 pm
  • Or, as someone punned earlier, stick a Foulke in him :-D

    Paul SF August 28, 2006, 10:25 pm
  • Well, apparently he can pitch through the injury. I say run him back out there!
    Ok, no, not really. What an awful signing. What an awful offseason (Pavano + Wright, no Beltran). Ugh.

    Rob (Middletown, CT) August 29, 2006, 8:24 am
  • It really does begin to look like Pavano is somehow thumbing his nose at Yankee management. Every time he gets close to returning, another injury crops up.
    Of course, it warms my heart to think of Steinbrenner blowing a gasket over this latest “setback.”

    Hudson August 29, 2006, 10:09 am
  • I think he’s scared, Hudson. Just doesn’t want to pitch in the Bronx.

    Sam August 29, 2006, 10:12 am
  • Why, over the long haul, would the Yanks need Beltran?
    Even over the short haul, considering the numbers he (didn’t) put up in 2005.

    lp August 29, 2006, 10:13 am
  • “It really does begin to look like Pavano is somehow thumbing his nose at Yankee management.”
    So he’s intentionally injuring himself? And that would do what to his long term earning potential as a pro baseball player?

    lp August 29, 2006, 10:15 am
  • Well, lp, Beltran is viewed by many as the best all-round player in the game. I think any team would want not just his glove but his current 1000+ OPS. His numbers this year are unreal for a CF.
    And last year was a settling-in-NYC blip.

    Sam August 29, 2006, 10:30 am
  • Yeah, even with Beltran’s down year last season, you have to figure he would have given the team more than Pavano/Wright. And DEFINITELY this year.
    Of course it sets off all sorts of other what ifs (Damon stays in Boston, for instance)…
    What’s done is done. Pavano is just irritating as hell. Whether he’s a big faker who’s pussying out of NY or just the most injury prone SOB out there, it sucks.

    Rob (Middletown, CT) August 29, 2006, 10:51 am
  • 50 bucks the Sox sign him this offseason. And he still sux for us.

    Manny's Mission August 29, 2006, 1:14 pm
  • My point about Beltran is that you can only come to those conclusions in hindsight. If you recall when he was bombing as a Met last year, he was viewed as the biggest mistake signing of the off-season, with many (no doubt the same “many” who now call him the best all round player in the game) pointing to his low BA as one of his major weaknesses.
    I’m not sure I see how he would have worked in the leadoff spot last season (the Yankee brass didn’t see it as well, especially at the Scott Boras price). Keep in mind, the Yankees were looking for a leadoff hitter that year as well as a CF. The lack of a true leadoff guy has been a Yankee weakness in the past, many times over. And, of course over the span of 2005-7, there were/are quality CFs that are becoming available at a cheaper price, Damon being one of them.
    And lastly, would he even be here in 2006 given his 2005, and especially given that scores of Yankee fan/media idiots want to boo A-Rod one season removed from an MVP year?
    And just to start an argument, is Beltran the “best all-around player in the game”?
    I don’t think so. He benefited from an amazing streak in the 2004 post-season. And that’s why “most” knew who he was prior to the big market.
    I would certainly put Vlad ahead of him and quite possibly Soriano as well. Cases can be made for others too.

    lp August 29, 2006, 3:29 pm
  • My understanding is that the Yanks took a pass on Beltran because having signed Randy to a $34m extension they were financially maxed out and with the luxury tax didn’t want to pay what would effectively be $32m a season for Beltran.
    As for his ability -he’s considered one of the best defensive outfielders in the game and has an OPS over 900 in four of the past five years (last year being an exception). He steals about 20 bases a season as well.
    Soriano is a lousy fielder and has bad hands. This is his first season with an OPS over 900 (in a year when Beltran is hitting over 1000) and he strikes out about 20-30 more times a season.
    Vlad – yes, you have a strong case there, only you could say he’s not has speedy and agile as Beltran in the field or on the bases. But his hitting and *career* 973 OPS probably make up for it.
    I’d also put a pre-meltdown A-Rod in the same category.
    But we’re putting Beltran in some pretty rarefied company, don’t you think? Which was my point.
    And to think, if The Cashman had had his way, we’d have Vlad instead of Sheff/Abreu and Beltran instead of Randy. It’s probably best for the greater good of baseball that these moves didn’t happen, but still…

    Sam August 29, 2006, 3:44 pm
  • Yes, I agree. Beltran is up there, especially given that only two names came off the top of my head.
    Yes, Sori is lousy defensively. But he has roughly double the stolen bases output, not that Beltran is a tortoise, and more power.
    The what-if game is interesting to play over Beltran, especially regarding the other deals that were made because that one wasn’t. I’m sure the Yankee price for him would have been considerably higher than the Met final price. And, as you alluded to, that price would impact the Abreu deal. In fact, I don’t think it would have happened.
    All in all, I think Damon + Abreu + Lidle > Beltran (at the moment). And of course, the first two had a major impact in knocking the Sox to the canvas this year.

    lp August 29, 2006, 3:58 pm

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