Going for the Split: Sox Vs. Yankees Gamer IX

Before I go ahead a give you the lineups and pitchers for tonight’s game, I wanted to take the time and congratulate Jason Varitek on being named to the 2008 AL All-Star team.  Varitek has a .219 average, .361 slugging percentage and an on base percentage of .301.  You can’t fault the players for showing their allegiance to Varitek, but this is most definitely an extreme case.  In comparison, A.J. Pierzynski the catcher for the Chicago White Sox is hitting .299/.338/.447.  I wonder if his track record of being a difficult teammate and overall nasty dude came into play here.  Either way this is not the first time this happened and I am sure it will not be the last.

In other news Johnny Damon has been placed on the 15 day DL and Justin Christian was recalled. 

On to tonight’s pitching match-ups and lineups.

Tonight’s Pitching match-up:

Joba Chamberlain (2-2 2.22 ERA)
Vs.
Tim Wakefield (5-6 3.72 ERA)

YANKEES (46-42)
Gardner LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Posada DH
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Molina C

RED SOX (52-38)
Ellsbury LF
Pedroia 2B
Drew RF
Lowell 3B
Youkilis 1B
Casey DH
Crisp CF
Lugo SS
Cash C

306 comments… add one
  • You can’t fault Tito for showing allegiance to his players, but this is most definitely an extreme case.
    Sorry John, but the players voted Varitek in. Not Tito.
    Go-go-gadget Wakefield!

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 8:17 pm
  • Yeah, I just got home home from a long day of family BBQ and was trying to comprehend the selection and write a gamer at the same time. I apologize for the original comment about Tito, it has since been revised. Either way Varitek was NOT worthy of a selection in any way.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 8:22 pm
  • Unfortunately for me it will be the 1st All-Star Game I get to attend and I get to stare at a field/Bench full of Sox. So the fact that Varitek is there just makes it worse.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 8:24 pm
  • That was a sweet strike em out throw em out.

    walein July 6, 2008, 8:29 pm
  • What’s Molina at 50% caught now?
    Coco again looking completely overmatched.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 8:29 pm
  • Joba makes Coco look silly.

    walein July 6, 2008, 8:29 pm
  • Coco’s swing is sort of how I imagine my at bat would be against Joba…of course, there would be crying during my at bat.

    walein July 6, 2008, 8:30 pm
  • was it me, or was jon miller’s praise for that play by jeter a little excessive? particularly considering coco stumbled out of the box and it wasn’t close. this is going to be a hard game to get through.

    rcolonna (sf) July 6, 2008, 8:31 pm
  • Fuckin ARod

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 8:32 pm
  • ALEX!!
    A LASAH!

    YF July 6, 2008, 8:33 pm
  • Wow, Hamels not making it. I didn’t notice. Wow.

    Lar July 6, 2008, 8:33 pm
  • A-Rod says take that divorce, beotch!

    A YF July 6, 2008, 8:33 pm
  • ARod!

    Lar July 6, 2008, 8:34 pm
  • Yeah every call by John Miller is excessive, rcolonna. The strike-em-out-throw-em-out deserved more praise, and then he over emphasises Jeter’s routine play.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 8:34 pm
  • Alex goes Yahtz, then takes a bow. Good for him.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 8:35 pm
  • Ties Mickey Mantle, another very impressive milestone.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 8:38 pm
  • Holy shit Sabathia to the Brewers? Yes!

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 8:41 pm
  • Sheets and Sabathia, WOW!
    Good for the Brewers. Now they need to go get Fuentes or a closer.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 8:42 pm
  • I am fairly certain Sheets has already said he would test the market. I wonder if that tune will change now with the addition of Sabathia.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 8:43 pm
  • Wow, CC to Mil. Did not expect that one..

    Lar July 6, 2008, 8:43 pm
  • Great move for Milwaukee. Laporta had nowhere to go with Fielder and SuperJew Ryan Braun in front of him, and if they can’t resign CC they just get more draft picks.
    Does this mean Cleveland thinks Hafner is cooked?
    Cleveland didn’t get the big deal some here (that means you, SF) were expecting.

    YF July 6, 2008, 8:47 pm
  • Wow, that was painful from Gammo. He’s lost a bit more than a few brain cells.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 8:47 pm
  • Wow, Melky looks bad on that knuckleball.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 8:48 pm
  • Cleveland didn’t get the big deal some here (that means you, SF) were expecting.
    I’m shocked they didn’t get more for him. Great deal for the Brew Crew, even if it’s only for half a season.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 8:49 pm
  • “Cleveland didn’t get the big deal”
    LaPorta is the big deal. Dude’s hitting .298 .411 .617 in his first full professional season – at AA-ball. They get him for 6 years in exchange for half a season of CC.
    Plus, we still haven’t heard about the other two prospects. This seems like the original Colon-type deal.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 8:51 pm
  • i know, i worry a great deal about peter gammons when i hear him say he agrees with joe morgan. shudder.

    rcolonna (sf) July 6, 2008, 8:51 pm
  • Both CC and Sheets, right now, are free agents at year end.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 8:52 pm
  • Wow, you know the Joba debate is over with when Morgan is stating the obvious.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 8:53 pm
  • Joba hits the c-note.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 8:54 pm
  • Ump makes the right call.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 8:55 pm
  • Pedroia doing a great job of fouling off some good pitches before grounding out. Jeter barely throws out the runner, though it did look like he was out.
    Replays confirm it.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 8:55 pm
  • Drew hits it off the end of the bat for a fly out, 2 down.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 8:57 pm
  • It’s a shame Milton Bradley didn’t beat out Ichiro for that OF spot.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 8:57 pm
  • Laporta’s a big bat. I think a lot of us hoped he would fall to the Yanks in the draft, and it was a surprise he went to Milwaukee, where there’s no DH. But, again, he’s blocked in Milwaukee, and they’ll just get a couple more draft picks to replace him, so the net cost is minimal in exhange for the huge potential payoff (economic/performance) they get with a half season of CC. Great deal. Good all around. Laporta’s going to be a pain in the ass for Yankee pitchers for a long time.

    YF July 6, 2008, 8:59 pm
  • As I think about it, I’m calling it right now – LaPorta starts next year in the majors and stars. He’s hit *58 XBHs* (30 HRs) in his first 350 professional at-bats.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 9:00 pm
  • 6 pitches ends the inning, 46 after 4 innings. Joba at 53, also pretty good.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:04 pm
  • Problem is, YF, Laporta could easily be better than Prince, Braun, and Hart. I know I wouldn’t bet against it. Half a year vs. 6 years, I choose the latter.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 9:04 pm
  • Youk gets his 2nd 0-2 hit of the night!
    Come on Casey, show us why you’re in the lineup over Manny.
    And the “Let’s go Red Sox” chant breaks out in Yankee Stadium.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:07 pm
  • Casey singles to right field! Come on Coco, drive Youk in from 3rd.
    It’s funny since Tito was just saying “Don’t worry, Casey will do something good for us tonight”

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:09 pm
  • Joba struggling from the stretch.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:10 pm
  • The ump is being inconsistent with the outside strike. Sometimes he calls it (like he did for strike 2 against Coco) and sometimes he doesn’t (like ball 2 against Coco). Annoying.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:11 pm
  • Coco walks, and then Youk scores on a wild pitch! Joba risks himself blocking the plate, but Coco slides rather than bowling him over. Tie game.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:13 pm
  • How about a sac-bunt Lugo?

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:14 pm
  • Why not have bunt here?

    A YF July 6, 2008, 9:15 pm
  • Lugo strikes out. Typical. Cash will probably GIDP now.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:16 pm
  • Again, why not the bunt? Francona too busy blowing Varitek?

    A YF July 6, 2008, 9:16 pm
  • Ugh. We’re tied.
    You can’t always be planning for tomorrow, A YF. When you’ve got a shot, it makes sense to take it. And if the pitchers walk, they get prime draft picks to mitigate the loss.

    YF July 6, 2008, 9:17 pm
  • No idea, A. I sure as hell would have had him bunting.
    Wow, the second pitch to Cash was great but called a ball. Like I said before, this ump is inconsistent.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:17 pm
  • Keep it clean.

    YF July 6, 2008, 9:18 pm
  • Again, why not the bunt? Francona too busy blowing Varitek?
    Again, Varitek was voted in by the players, not Francona. Nice try though A ;-)
    Cash down on strikes. At least he didn’t GIDP.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:18 pm
  • Wow…
    Kevin Cash: .235 .308 .333
    Jason Varitek: .219 .301 .360
    When do you start sitting the All-Star for the backup?

    A YF July 6, 2008, 9:19 pm
  • Ellsbury checks his swing, bases loaded. Come on Pedroia!

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:22 pm
  • Dink. 3-1. Gah.

    YF July 6, 2008, 9:24 pm
  • PEDROIA! Two runs in, 3-1 Sox.
    Pedroia is now 9 for 29 with the bases loaded. That’s a LOT of bases-loaded plate appearances for someone with less than 2 years under his belt.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:24 pm
  • Drew K’s, but the damage is done. Joba at 89 pitches after 5.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:26 pm
  • Where the frick has that been Joba?
    Falls in love with his w. his secondary pitches there, and it kills him.

    YF July 6, 2008, 9:26 pm
  • Give Moose Joba’s arm, and he’d throw a perfect season.

    YF July 6, 2008, 9:28 pm
  • “Ellsbury checks his swing, bases loaded.”
    Checked his swing? Come on Ath, please.
    ESPN’s love affair with Pedroia (and the Sox) continues. He’s 5 ft 5 1/2, he’s this, he’s that…VOMIT.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 9:28 pm
  • And, John, heeeeeeee’s an All-Star!

    A YF July 6, 2008, 9:30 pm
  • Checked his swing? Come on Ath, please.
    Sorry, said that before they showed the replay.
    ESPN’s love affair with Pedroia (and the Sox) continues.
    Hey, let’s be fair… John Miller has an announcergasm for every routine play Jeter makes, and every strike Joba throws. They do it for both teams, and it’s usually pretty even.
    I do agree with the Pedroia sentiment though. I guess they feel bad for all tiny players, and love to see them succeed. Though what Eckstein does isn’t exactly “succeeding”.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:31 pm
  • Posada K’s on a curveball that dropped like six feet. Wow.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:33 pm
  • Jon Miller drives me bananas. It all started when he insisted on calling him ROOH-BEN Sierra.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 9:33 pm
  • since when did wakefield throw a curve. that was tough to watch from my perspective.

    Sam-YF July 6, 2008, 9:34 pm
  • Yeah Miller is unbearable. Almost as bad as Joe Buck.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:35 pm
  • Joba’s at 89 pitches against this pedetrian lineup? LOL, good move Cashman.

    Dirty Water July 6, 2008, 9:36 pm
  • Hehe Sam, he’s always had a slow curve but he almost never throws it. Great for situations like that against Posada though… he never saw it coming.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:37 pm
  • How about a big glass of STFU?

    A YF July 6, 2008, 9:41 pm
  • Booo, Youk thrown at but it misses him. Payback for getting two hits against him?

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:41 pm
  • Joba throws behind Youk. Youk thinks it’s on purpose. The Saga continues.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 9:41 pm
  • Youkilis with the totally unnecessary stare down of Joba there. That pitch almost hit him the thigh. Gasp.

    Sam-YF July 6, 2008, 9:42 pm
  • Double play, good play by Giambi. Joba at 101 pitches, likely gone.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:43 pm
  • Giambi makes a nearly awful throw to 2nd on a 3-6-3 double play to end the inning. Thankfully DJ makes a nice play on a tough play.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 9:43 pm
  • I thought Manny slapped Youk around so he would stop being a little bitch?

    A YF July 6, 2008, 9:44 pm
  • Youkilis with the totally unnecessary stare down of Joba there.
    Well, considering their history…

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:45 pm
  • I had the misfortune of watching only the final three outs of last night’s ballgame, and thought to myself: “Is the team with the second-highest payroll really trotting out Crisp, Varitek and Lugo as the bottom three in their lineup?”
    I had a similar thought tonight, except that I had more faith in Cash to deliver a hit than I had in Varitek. I am simply amazed Tek is an All-Star this year. Kevin Cash deserves to be there more than Varitek does. I like the guy, and I think he carries considerable value behind the plate, but I hear the real problem with Abu Ghraib were the videos they showed of Varitek batting in a series of meaningful situations.

    Paul SF July 6, 2008, 9:45 pm
  • I thought Manny slapped Youk around so he would stop being a little bitch?
    Be careful AYF, as a ‘public figure’ that comment might bite you in the ass when you run for reelection!

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:46 pm
  • “Well, considering their history…”
    Yeah, one pitch that got away =’s a “history”
    Now he’s bitching to the ump.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 9:47 pm
  • Varitek complaining to Laz Diaz, to quote him “That’s Horsesh*t.”
    More or less “Horsesh*t” than that slide.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 9:48 pm
  • Sorry, I have Varitek on the brain. YOUK complaining to Laz Diaz.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 9:48 pm
  • And heeeere we go.
    Let’s keep it cleaner on the blog than on the field, fellas. Seriously. Enough….

    YF July 6, 2008, 9:49 pm
  • More or less “Horsesh*t” than that slide.
    Hey, Joba is lucky he didn’t get bowled over. He was blocking the plate, Youk should have.
    Now Girardi acting like a “little bitch”, to quote AYF. Gets himself ejected.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:49 pm
  • That not aimed at the Horsesh#t comment, John.

    YF July 6, 2008, 9:50 pm
  • Yeah, one pitch that got away =’s a “history”
    You mean two identical pitches to the head that resulted in an ejection? Yes, that = history.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:51 pm
  • Slide at 2nd Ath, although both were typical Youk.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 9:51 pm
  • The Frequent Gardner.

    YF July 6, 2008, 9:52 pm
  • Captain!!! 3-2.

    YF July 6, 2008, 9:53 pm
  • Which slide at 2nd are you talking about John? I missed the first three games of the series.
    Jeter singles in Gardner, 3-2 Sox. Melky should be sent on a slow boat to China in favor of Gardner.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:54 pm
  • Wow, horrible throw by Wake. Jeter in scoring position, Lopez and Aardsma up in the pen.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:54 pm
  • DOUBLE PLAY! Good baserunning Captain.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 9:57 pm
  • You forgot Ath that nobody should ever slide hard into a Yankee when they’re blocking the plate. This is apparently an unwritten rule somewhere…

    Paul SF July 6, 2008, 9:58 pm
  • Hey, John, Joba was blocking the plate not only without the ball but Molina hadn’t even picked it up yet. Youks went in feet on the ground. Joba wasn’t using his head. A runner has every right to go for the plate there.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 9:58 pm
  • Oh fer cryin’ out loud.

    YF July 6, 2008, 9:59 pm
  • Ahh, sorry Paul. Forgot the rule.
    But seriously, Joba was blocking the plate. He’s lucky he didn’t get his bell rung, and I’d be saying the same thing if it was ‘Tek blocking the plate on a play.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:02 pm
  • Jeter makes another blunder, throws a ball away. Lugo to 2nd with 1 out.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:04 pm
  • Again, I was referring to the slide into second. Youk went out of the baseline in an attempt to break up the double play. Not dirty, everyday “hard” baseball, but still when you do things that way, the “hard” way, don’t complain when the opposing pitcher tries to keep you honest with a pitch inside.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 10:04 pm
  • Wow, so first Lugo doubles off Jeter, then Jeter returns the favor by committing an error on Lugo’s infield single, pushing him to second.

    Paul SF July 6, 2008, 10:04 pm
  • >>> Wow, so first Lugo doubles off Jeter, then Jeter returns the favor by committing an error on Lugo’s infield single, pushing him to second.
    Heh. Paul, you’re not giving Jeets credit for his intangibles.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:07 pm
  • I can’t offer up on that one, John. I didn’t see it.
    And although there is a difference between “inside” and “behind,” I’m not going to imply intent. No reason to pretend to know what’s going on inside someone’s head.

    And Cash is MONEY with a double.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:07 pm
  • Was that slide in this game John? I didn’t remember it. Not trying to be argumentative, I just totally didn’t see the play, let alone the slide.
    Cash money! 4-2 Sox. And Joe Morgan drops the bomb that supposedly Bonds has been working out with the Red Sox. Say it ain’t so.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:08 pm
  • So if Youk will only not play so hard, Joba won’t throw the ball behind him?
    Got it.

    Tom sf July 6, 2008, 10:09 pm
  • Ellsbury grounds out. I’d like to see him bunt for singles more often. With Cash on 2nd and ARod playing shallow, at the very least it’d move him over to 3rd.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:09 pm
  • “Heh. Paul, you’re not giving Jeets credit for his intangibles.”
    Ugggh. I feel like I am bizarro world. Tough to make that comment on the day that “Mr. Calls a Great Game” makes the All-Star team with a .219 avg.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 10:10 pm
  • I think Youk was the first out on that 3-6-3 DP, Bill. Not sure though. I thought John was talking about the slide at home because the ESPN Radio guys mentioned it as possible motivation if Chamberlain was indeed throwing intentionally behind Youk.

    Paul SF July 6, 2008, 10:10 pm
  • I think we can call a truce and agree that neither Varitek nor Jeter belongs on the All-Star team this year. I also would much rather have Jeter batting in my lineup than Varitek, but I’d rather have Varitek on defense. Fair?

    Paul SF July 6, 2008, 10:13 pm
  • “Tough to make that comment on the day that “Mr. Calls a Great Game” makes the All-Star team with a .219 avg.”
    For the last time, Varitek was voted in by the players. Bitch at them.
    I got 20 bucks that says he backs out, anyway, and Pierzynski gets his spot.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:13 pm
  • Bonds? Ugh. Double ugh.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:13 pm
  • Ok let’s stop taking things out of context.
    1st Youk slid into homeplate.
    2nd Joba threw behind Youk.
    3rd Youk went out of the baseline to try and take out Jeter on a DP ball.
    4th Youk walked back on the field and called Joba’s pitch and I quote “Horsesh*t”
    Then I said you can’t claim to play the game “Hard” then get mad when a pitcher does just that and plays the game “Hard” in return. The rights to playing the game “Hard” do not belong to Youk alone.
    So please Tom tell me where I said what you are claiming I said?

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 10:13 pm
  • No, Paul. I’m not going to whine about Jeter. No AL shotstop is having a great year. Maybe Michael Young. But the game is at the Stadium, so what’s wrong the The Face of the franchise being in the starting lineup? If someone was head-and-shoulders better, then maybe you complain. But not in this case. I’m OK with it.
    If not Jeter, who?

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:15 pm
  • The slide I am talking about was on the 3-6-3 double play. It wasn’t dirty, it was “Hard.” I made that clear. But it was certainly clear that Youk was frustrated and proving a point.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 10:16 pm
  • ARod bloops a single into the outfield. Delcarmen up instead of Aardsma up now. Hopefully Wake can get through this inning so we don’t need to use Okajima.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:16 pm
  • Any predictions on who wins the fan vote for the last spot?
    Giambi will win it, but I’m keeping my vote in town and giving it to Dye.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:18 pm
  • Just watched the replay of the Youkilis slide… If he hadn’t slid, he would have had to run right smack into him, which would have been worse. Joba was blocking the plate even though there was no throw.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:18 pm
  • Giambi pops out. Whew. Thanks for clearing that up btw, John.
    Time for a GIDP by Posada. Please? Tito’s seen enough of Wake, Lopez in.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:18 pm
  • Hudson–John was talking about the slide at 2nd, not at home.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:19 pm
  • Calling Jeter getting doubled off of second last inning a base running blunder is way off. That same thing happens to basically anyone.

    Sam-YF July 6, 2008, 10:19 pm
  • If not Jeter, who?
    Michael Young and Jhonny Peralta, both with better numbers across the board. It’s not the travesty Varitek’s selection is, and Jeter has at least some kind of senior statesman claim on the slot (like Ripken did), but he doesn’t belong this year.

    Paul SF July 6, 2008, 10:19 pm
  • John, did that slide into second seem unusual? It looked to me like any other slide into second to try to break up a double play. Pretty run of the mill.
    Lopez replaces Wakes.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:20 pm
  • >>> Tough to make that comment on the day that “Mr. Calls a Great Game” makes the All-Star team with a .219 avg.
    Actually, it’s easy to make that comment on a day when Jeter arguably costs his team two runs (one on offense, one on defense) in a 4-2 game.
    And anyway, defensive prowess and great game-calling aren’t “intangibles.”

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:21 pm
  • I’ll agree to let it go Paul, but you cannot possibly expect me to accept the comparison of Jeter to Varitek in terms of deserving to make the team. Varitek’s numbers are awful, not mediocre, but awful. Jeter is having a terrible year by his standards, but definitely not awful. .281/.344/.387, that’s simply not awful.
    Young should be the starter, his numbers are clearly better. That vote though was left up to the fans and we all know how flawed that system is.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 10:21 pm
  • IBM- the replay showed him out of the base path making that slide. As john said, it was fine, playing the game hard. Youk just cant swallow when others “play the game hard” too.

    Sam-YF July 6, 2008, 10:22 pm
  • Atheose: I know. But some of the tension seems to have come from Joba wrongly getting ticked about Youkilis’ slide at home, too.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:22 pm
  • It looks like you cross-posted with my comment John, so I’ll refer you to what I just said:
    It’s not the travesty Varitek’s selection is

    Paul SF July 6, 2008, 10:22 pm
  • Lopez gives up a single, ARod to 3rd. Shiznit.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:22 pm
  • Ugh, hit by Posada… Now we need a GIDP from Cano.
    Why was Yankee Stadium playing “Shipping Up to Boston”?

    Paul SF July 6, 2008, 10:23 pm
  • Cross post it is Paul! :)

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 10:23 pm
  • John: Given that the players selected Tek, why do you think they did that?
    I agree his numbers stink, but the players must have had some decent reasons… Or maybe they just wanted to see Tek in Yankee Stadium.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:24 pm
  • If we are talking about numbers for being voted in for the all-star game then Kinsler should be standing at second base not Pedroia.
    Also, Jeter didnt cost his team a run on offense, he created a run on offense with an RBI. As I said above, anyone gets doubled off there. It as a nice play….

    Sam-YF July 6, 2008, 10:24 pm
  • Fuck Lopez. Cano triples.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:24 pm
  • Couldn’t see that coming. The Globe was just praising Lopez for his recent effectiveness, setting up the jinx.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:25 pm
  • Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
    And, on the way off the mound, Wake told Francona “I’ve struck him [Posada] out twice.” Terry said “I know”.
    Ha!

    A YF July 6, 2008, 10:25 pm
  • Bleh, remind me again what middle relievers/set-up men are going on the market mid-season?

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:26 pm
  • If we are talking about numbers for being voted in for the all-star game then Kinsler should be standing at second base not Pedroia.
    Kinsler also has 16 errors at 2nd, whereas Pedroia only has 5 and has much greater range. Kinsler has better offensive numbers than Pedroia, but the defense certainly makes things closer.
    Great play by Pedroia there. Delcarmen in.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:27 pm
  • Only a matter of time before Javier Lopez reaffirmed his status as my LFRS. *sigh*

    Paul SF July 6, 2008, 10:28 pm
  • >>> Jeter didnt cost his team a run on offense,
    Uhh, actually correct me if I have short-term memory problems, but seems to me he got doubled off second, ending an inning when he was in scoring position with just one out.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:28 pm
  • I guess I don’t see the rationale for removing Wakefield there. Posada had K’d twice, and Cano swings at everything that he can see. I often fault Francona for his slow hooks, so I hate to criticize him for removing someone too quickly, but with the bullpen we’ve got this year, I don’t know that trusting them with a runner on base is the best move…

    Paul SF July 6, 2008, 10:29 pm
  • Every year, the fans get most right and a few wrong. That’s never going to change.
    And the biggest joke starter in either league is Fukudome.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:29 pm
  • Im sure the legions of Red Sox voters took Kinsler’s error count into their votes. The average baseball fan has no idea of that stat. Im just asking everyone to call it what it is, a popularity contest in which Red Sox, Yankees, and Cubs have a major advantage.

    Sam-YF July 6, 2008, 10:29 pm
  • Hudson, I have NO IDEA why the players selected Varitek other than they hate AJ.
    Is there a way to research the worst stats posted by a player selected to the ASG for someone that was not the single rep from his team? Sounds like a job for AG!

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 10:30 pm
  • I agree with Paul. Wakefield can throw 120 pitches if he has to and had a nice game going. With those two coming up, I would have much preferred to let him try to get out of the inning than to play Red Sox Bullpen Roulette.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:31 pm
  • Hudson-
    He got doubled off second but as i said, if you watched that play, it really would have happened to anyone else. It was a ripped line drive, Jeter got doubled off with his secondary lead. It was negligent playing on his part.

    Sam-YF July 6, 2008, 10:31 pm
  • Sam, that’s absolutely right.
    So I don’t understand why anyone is bitching about it.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:33 pm
  • Gotta agree with Sam here–most people would have been doubled off. I didn’t think Lugo was going to get it either.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:34 pm
  • Yeah that line drive play was not a mistake, Sam is 100% correct. The line drive is the single toughest ball to read especially in front of you. When the ball is hit behind you , you can get a better idea of height, speed, etc…in that instance it’s try to freeze and dive back.

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 10:34 pm
  • We’re going to have to get it off Farnsworth. I don’t like our chances against anyone else.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:35 pm
  • Call me out of it, but what the heck did the Yankees do to their caps?

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:36 pm
  • They have American Flag colors on them, Hudson. Most teams did that over the weekend for the 4th of July.
    Except for the Blue Jays. F*cking Canadians.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:37 pm
  • Let me be the 1st to tell you how this game ends. Varitek pinch hits for Cash and hits a game winning HR off Mariano Rivera. On his way around the bases he accidentally steps on Jeter’s ankle and forces him to the 15 day DL. That’s just how my day/week has gone. You can put it in the books!

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 10:38 pm
  • Re: Jeter: That was not a lined shot, it was more of flare verging on a looper — watch it again. I stand by my initial reaction that there are plenty of other baserunners who would have not gotten doubled off.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:38 pm
  • I am fairly certain all the teams did it. The proceeds (part of) go to the Veterans.
    http://www.lids.com/style/9207?link_id=4581

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 10:39 pm
  • I’d love to see it John!

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:39 pm
  • Okay, here we go–does Youk get beaned? Farnsworth is a little wild.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:40 pm
  • It’s raining inside Yooks’ helmet.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:42 pm
  • Big outing by Farnsy. Let’s hold ’em, lilManny.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:42 pm
  • Nice inning by Farnsy.
    And you fnckers better take both from Tampa this week.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:44 pm
  • >>> They have American Flag colors on them, Hudson.
    Hm. I’m seeing a lighter shade of blue and outlined letters… Looks almost like a Mets cap.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:45 pm
  • Mo’s up in the pen.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:46 pm
  • Announcer: “Mo is warming up. If the Yankees score here it’d be a save situation. If they don’t score, it won’t be.”
    Way to state the obvious, Miller.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:46 pm
  • Oof, this bottom of the 8th makes me nervous.
    If it’s still tied in the 9th, do we still see Mo/Paps, or do the managers hold them back in reserve in case of extras, I wonder?

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:47 pm
  • Wow, foul ball called. I thought it was fair for sure. He hesitated before calling it, maybe he looked at where the ball hit.
    Hmmm, replays shows it REALLY close.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:48 pm
  • Fantastic changeup by Delcarmen.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:48 pm
  • “I’m seeing a lighter shade of blue and outlined letters… Looks almost like a Mets cap.”
    They are indeed bluer than normal not quite Mets blue though. The same is true for the Sox’s patriotic hats…

    Sam-YF July 6, 2008, 10:49 pm
  • Half-assed prediction: This game gets decided by a solo HR.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:49 pm
  • Nice swing on that pitch he hit barely foul (whew). MDC comes back with the K. I like the way that kid battles.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:49 pm
  • “Looks almost like a Mets cap.”
    God forbid.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:50 pm
  • Half-assed prediction: This game gets decided by a solo HR.
    More like Okajima comes in fr the 10th and gives up a walk, SB and a hit.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:51 pm
  • Another nice play by Lugo.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:52 pm
  • All of the hats were the same color. Every team wore the same “light navy” as they call it. It’s Red, White and Blue…get it? Check out this link, it will give you a better view of the hat.
    http://www.lids.com/style/9207?link_id=4581

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 10:53 pm
  • >>>Red, White and Blue
    Just can’t see any red on my tiny screen.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:54 pm
  • Great play by Ellsbury. All of this is setting up for an ARod walk-off.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:55 pm
  • Manny would have caught that one, too.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:55 pm
  • Mo?

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:56 pm
  • Aaaand to the ninth. Amazingly, the Sox didn’t give it away in the 8th.
    Since the Yankees get last licks, maybe it will be Mo in the 9th even though it’s not technically his time?

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:56 pm
  • Gotta figure Mo will go two.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 10:56 pm
  • Manny pinch-hitting possibility?

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:57 pm
  • Mo indeed.
    This bodes well for the sox. Almost all of the runs he has given up this year are in non-save situations.

    Sam-YF July 6, 2008, 10:57 pm
  • OOPS. Posted this in the wrong thread, so I’m reposting it and edited it so that it’s thread appropriate.
    “Wow, I missed quite a weekend here while floating and drinking up north.
    I listened to most innings on the radio this weekend so adjusting back to these ESPN dolts is tough.
    I’m a sun burnt happy Red Sox fan with two wins out of three so far, let’s see how this one plays out.
    I hope everyone enjoyed their 4th as much as I did.
    Nice catch Ells!!!!”

    LocklandSF July 6, 2008, 10:57 pm
  • Oki warming.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:58 pm
  • Gotta figure Mo will go two
    There’s no way in hell that happens. He pitched last night.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:58 pm
  • Leadoff Casey single.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:58 pm
  • Lead-off single by Casey!

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:58 pm
  • Crisp pushes Casey to 2nd with the sacrifice. Nice.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 10:59 pm
  • Great bunt, great throw by Molina. RISP now for… uhh, Lugo and Cash. Manny pinch hit for Cash PLEASE?

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 10:59 pm
  • OH. MY. GOD. Varitek is pinch-hitting for Lugo. Oh my god. Oh my god.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:00 pm
  • Tek hitting for Lugo? What’s the point?

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:00 pm
  • Casey singles; Crisp nice sac bunt.
    Jon Miller points out that 4 of the 5 runs Mo has allowed have been in tie games situations.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:01 pm
  • The Sox pinching hitting with an All-Star. It’s always good in those situations.

    Lar July 6, 2008, 11:01 pm
  • Well at least he moved the runner over. Now we have to rely on Cash.
    NO WAIT! MANNY PINCH HITTING NOW!

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:01 pm
  • And the All-Star doesn’t disappoint!

    A YF July 6, 2008, 11:01 pm
  • Tek weak comebacker, Moss to third, Manny coming to the plate with two gone. Oh, boy.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:02 pm
  • Here comes the IBB. It’s all on Ellsbury.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:02 pm
  • And so you walk Manny, right?

    A YF July 6, 2008, 11:02 pm
  • Oh, boy. Jay Mariotti Jr. chimes in with his predictable shot at Tek.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:02 pm
  • He’s pitching to him!

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:03 pm
  • This is a pretty classic Sox-Yanx moment, I have to say.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:03 pm
  • Jay Mariotti Jr. chimes in with his predictable shot at Tek.
    He’s not Jay Mariotti, he’s the CHB!

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:04 pm
  • Going for the elusive throw strikes strategy, interesting…

    LocklandSF July 6, 2008, 11:04 pm
  • Aaaarrrgh, Manny the K. Three pitches.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:04 pm
  • Way to swing the bat Manny.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:04 pm
  • Bill, hasn’t your Daddy told you: No name calling, trollboy!
    Sit down! Sit down Secretary!

    A YF July 6, 2008, 11:04 pm
  • Wow. It takes balls to just pitch to him, and Manny out on 3 pitches. Wow.

    Lar July 6, 2008, 11:04 pm
  • Manny goes down pinch-watching.

    Sam-YF July 6, 2008, 11:05 pm
  • Guess it’s gotta be Oki for the 9th, since if Paps came in and got them out, they’d still need another arm for the 10th. Unless Paps has two innings in him.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:05 pm
  • Don’t hurt his feelings, Bill. Politicians get their feelings hurt easily.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:06 pm
  • Wait, and so not one word yet from Gammo on Manny’s recent assault record? Shocking!

    A YF July 6, 2008, 11:06 pm
  • Okajima in. *gulp*

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:07 pm
  • Tek, Moss, Cora on the field.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:07 pm
  • “Unless Paps has two innings in him.”
    Hilarious. How old is he? And they can’t throw him for two innings?
    Who called Okajima blowing this game?

    A YF July 6, 2008, 11:07 pm
  • Wait, and so not one word yet from Gammo on Manny’s recent assault record? Shocking!
    And just like a politician, spouting the same BS over and over! AYF never fails.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:08 pm
  • 2-1 to A-Rod.
    Grounds out to Lowell.
    Gulp.
    Mr. Moustache up next.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:08 pm
  • What’s wrong with this picture: Mo pitches the ninth for NYY, Okajima pitches the ninth for RS.
    I can’t watch.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:08 pm
  • Lowell is money at 3rd. That ball was hit wicked hard.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:09 pm
  • A, I’m usually the first guy to say that pitchers today get babied. But the fact remains that two-inning outings are rare nowadays.
    If Oki gets the job done here, will Mo come out for another?

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:10 pm
  • “same BS”
    BS? Which one? The assault on his teammate or the one on the 64 yo employee?

    A YF July 6, 2008, 11:10 pm
  • By the way, Giambi’s ‘stache: I see Munson.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:10 pm
  • The ‘stache pops up to Lowell, two down.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:11 pm
  • 3-1 to hGhiambi.
    High pop, Lowell grabs this one, too.
    If Sterling gets a chance to say, “Jee-orgee juiced one!,” I’ll puke.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:11 pm
  • Oh, well, Ath. The conversation WAS intelligent.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:11 pm
  • Careful, you’re sounding more like your secret identity every day, CHB! Might want to spout off some other random BS that nobody cares about, to throw us off the scent.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:12 pm
  • Munson wore the ‘stache much better than J.G. (And I despised Munson.)

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:12 pm
  • Hud, is Sterling implying that Posada is a juicer? That’s not cool.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:12 pm
  • Forget him Bill. Politicians rarely say anything of substance.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:13 pm
  • A YF, you have Ponson on your team, you have no ability to make character judgments.

    LocklandSF July 6, 2008, 11:13 pm
  • 1-2 to Posada.
    Foul.
    Ball, 2-2.
    Game pace slowing to a crawl.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:13 pm
  • So did I, Hud. But Fisk kicked his ass and that put him in his place.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:14 pm
  • Politician? He’s weasely enough to be Karl Rove.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:14 pm
  • Bill: As far as I can tell, Sterling’s broadcast style is aimed squarely at 11-year-old listeners…
    And Oki Ks Jorge! Mirabile dictu!

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:15 pm
  • “Who called Okajima blowing this game?”
    The same person who called you blowing Okajima.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:15 pm
  • Okajima strikes out Posada on a wicked curveball!

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:15 pm
  • He’s embarrassing, Hud. I never heard him in his hey-day, but you’d think the Yankees could do better than Sterling and Waldman.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:17 pm
  • Hmmm, very curious to see who pitches the Yankee 10th.

    ..
    ….
    .
    It’s Mo again.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:17 pm
  • What!? A 38 yo relief pitcher throwing two innings!? One night after a long save? OMG!!!11111!!!!

    A YF July 6, 2008, 11:17 pm
  • Interesting choice, considering Mo pitched 25 pitches last night. Sure he only needed 6 last inning, but still…
    Ellsbury down.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:18 pm
  • Ellsbury bloops out to A-Rod.
    Is Mueller available to pinch-hit?

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:18 pm
  • I’m calling it now–Mo is going to throw a fastball to Drew, and his arm is going to fall off on the mound. It’s just gunna detatch itself from his shoulder and fall to the ground.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:19 pm
  • C’mon, Dustin. There’s nothing more beautiful to a Sox fan than that stricken Mo-face.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:19 pm
  • Ah, yes, the ad hominem never fails when the primates break all of their sticks.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 11:19 pm
  • Grrr, DPed Ks.
    Sox letting Mo off easy with short at-bats.
    1-0 to J.D.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:20 pm
  • Sit down! Sit down midget!

    A YF July 6, 2008, 11:20 pm
  • All these fncking people at the beginning of the season, huinting that Mo is done. Are you kidding me? He’s as good as ever.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:20 pm
  • JD Due.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:20 pm
  • Nope. JDre out on pitch #3. They could conceivably bring Mo back for the 11th.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:21 pm
  • This just in: Madonna, in a written statement states that she has had no romantic involvment with Rodriguez and had nothing to do with his marital issues.
    So Page 1 of the Post is set.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:21 pm
  • Mo is so good it’s silly, makes me take my team hat off, stand back, watch and then tip that cap.

    LocklandSF July 6, 2008, 11:22 pm
  • Aww, AYF thinks he’s people. My dog thinks the same thing when you talk to him too much. It’s usually pretty cute.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:22 pm
  • Paps in.
    How long til he leaves a splitter up?

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:22 pm
  • Paps for the 10th.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:22 pm
  • Relax fellas, enough is enough. This has gone fairly smoothly so far. Enjoy the game and talk baseball.
    In other news, my 2 1/2 year old son is in his baseball uniform pants and batting helmet yelling at the TV for the “Baseball Player” to get a hit. It’s cheese ball moments like this that put the game in perspective for me. (Please do not call the authorities, he is only up this late because he took a 3 hour nap after swimming all day at a BBQ!)

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 11:23 pm
  • Past my bedtime. Let’s end this fellers.

    YF July 6, 2008, 11:23 pm
  • Yeah, the Mo resigning is looking real good right now.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:23 pm
  • http://www.nypost.com/seven/07062008/news/regionalnews/divorce_118754.htm
    So why file now, and not last year when the pics of him leaving a hotel with a siliconed floozie last year?

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:24 pm
  • Aww nice John! My roommate’s nephew came over last weekend and had a little plastic bat, and ran around our apartment yelling “I PLAY A BASEBALLS! I PLAY A BASEBALLS!” Can’t wait til I have kids.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:24 pm
  • I’m telling you, it’s Jay Mariotti. Very consistent with his columns in the Chicago Sun-Times. You know, he writes crap like “Big Skirt” but then he’s never in the clubhouse to face the players after he writes that garbage.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:25 pm
  • Crap.

    LocklandSF July 6, 2008, 11:25 pm
  • Cano! Contact up the middle!

    YF July 6, 2008, 11:25 pm
  • Wouldn’t surprise me, Bill.
    Cano singles. Ballocks.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:26 pm
  • Lets leave the tabloids for tomorrow. There is a game on here….

    Sam-YF July 6, 2008, 11:26 pm
  • He could have gone to second. That really pisses me off.

    LocklandSF July 6, 2008, 11:27 pm
  • BAH, should have gotten him at 2nd. Youk should have been yelling “TWO! TWO!”

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:27 pm
  • Fair enough, Sam.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:27 pm
  • Melkster bunts. Betemit for Molina.
    Guess we lose our DH if this flops. When this flops?

    YF July 6, 2008, 11:27 pm
  • Wow, Betimit missed that pitch by half a foot. 0-2 count… don’t fuck it up like you did to Cano please.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:28 pm
  • YES, Betimit K’s.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:29 pm
  • That’s Pap right there. Damn.

    LocklandSF July 6, 2008, 11:30 pm
  • Betemit K’s.
    Papelbon’s lip-purse deal is kind of amusing.
    Brett Gardner, welcome to the rivalry.

    YF July 6, 2008, 11:30 pm
  • I like this kid Gardner in this spot, YFs. (For you, not me.)

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:31 pm
  • That tailing 96mph heater to go 0-2 pretty awesome.
    Our boy is pesky though!

    YF July 6, 2008, 11:32 pm
  • “Papelbon’s lip-purse deal is kind of amusing.”
    Some day, when he gets some age, that will totally look tough instead of just stupid.

    LocklandSF July 6, 2008, 11:32 pm
  • “Guess we lose our DH if this flops.”
    Moeller’s on the bench. Three catchers for a month now.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 11:33 pm
  • Pesky in an Eckstine kinf way, YF?

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:34 pm
  • Fuck it all

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:35 pm
  • GG

    LocklandSF July 6, 2008, 11:35 pm
  • Grotesque.

    Hudson July 6, 2008, 11:35 pm
  • That’s what I mean.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:35 pm
  • Brett Gardner!!!!!111111!!!!!

    A YF July 6, 2008, 11:35 pm
  • I blame ESPN for the jynx: “Papelbon: only allowed 4 walk-off hits in career”

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:35 pm
  • Gardner! Win! Split!

    Lar July 6, 2008, 11:35 pm
  • epic AB for Gardner.
    SFs meet our annoying small guy!!!

    Sam-YF July 6, 2008, 11:35 pm
  • BRETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    YF July 6, 2008, 11:36 pm
  • And his first curtain call!!!!!1111111!!!!!
    4 back of the wild card.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 11:36 pm
  • That’s exactly what I saw coming. Foul, foul, foul, dink.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:37 pm
  • My man BG!!! Wow what a game! Ok fellas thanks for all the fun. I feel a lot better after that hit!
    Vote Giambi and Corey Hart!

    John - YF July 6, 2008, 11:37 pm
  • Joe Morgan calls them the “Devil Rays”, and then thinks that Lugo is still in the game. What a horrible announcer.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:37 pm
  • Boston has Isabella Stewart but WE”VE GOT BRETT!

    YF July 6, 2008, 11:37 pm
  • Brett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    J (yf) July 6, 2008, 11:38 pm
  • Love the fact that we already have Pappy’s number.
    Meanwhile, Mo is still money.

    A YF July 6, 2008, 11:39 pm
  • John, one more thought on your opener: Listening to the White Sox TV announcers this afternoon bitch, whine and piss and moan about AJ and Dye being left off the All-Star roster was worth Tek being named.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:39 pm
  • Adios, and fncking beat Tampa.

    I'mBillMcNeal July 6, 2008, 11:41 pm
  • Yeah, Drew/Dye/Bradley all deserved to start over Ichiro.

    Atheose July 6, 2008, 11:41 pm
  • I’m left impressed.
    Wakefield, NY’s favorite batting practice pitcher leaves in the 7th up 4-2 over the latest Yank hype job: Joba. That with the most Moe, Larry and Curly lineup Tito could ever imagine being asked to carry the team for the night. 2 of the 3 Sox relievers actually do their job, for once. Yanks are forced to sacrifice their future with Rivera for this one game.
    It’s a battle won, war conceded, IMO.

    Dirty Water July 7, 2008, 12:45 am
  • DW, with all due respect, your last comment sounds more like bitterness after a tough loss (which would be understandable – we’ve all been there) than informed analysis. To wit…
    “latest Yank hype job: Joba”
    Rational Sox fans would trade any of their starters other than Josh Beckett for 22-year old Joba based not on hype but on performance. Moreover, even if your knock on Joba were justified, your description of him is wrong. First, he gave up 3 ER tonight not 4, and second, he is not the latest Yankee hype job. That honor goes to Brett Gardner. You know, the kid who had the game-winning RBIs against Boston both yesterday and today?
    “Moe, Larry and Curly lineup”
    Sorry, which of them was wearing the Manny Ramirez jersey when he struck out on three straight pitches without so much as flinching?
    “Yanks are forced to sacrifice their future with Rivera for this one game”
    Thanks to the Yanks’ recent combination of losses and blowout victories, coming into tonight Mo had appeared in 4 games – a total of 4.1 innings – in the past 14 days. In other words, he was averaging more than 3 days of rest per appearance. This was the reason most who have watched him closely throughout his career felt he was as wild yesterday as he has ever been (that is, before he slamed the door shut). Tonight he had to throw 16 pitches to get through 2 innings (that’s 1 fewer than it took Papelbon to lose the game in the 10th in case you were wondering). And as the Yanks have an off-day tomorrow, Mo should be primed for the Rays should the Yanks need him. In other words, anyone who thinks this did anything to his or the Yankees’ future is either just bitter over the loss of is a woefully uninformed baseball viewer.
    I give in to rampant homerism from time to time but it’s not my prefered MO here. Indeed, I have acknowledged here many times that I think the Sox are a better team this year due to starting pitching and respective injuries which have compounded (though not created) that problem for the Yanks. And even with the last two days, the Sox are still ahead in the standings and they still lead the season series with NY 5-4 so you needn’t get too bitter DW. But you have to know that ill-informed goading will elicit a strong response.
    Put another way:
    “I’m left impressed”
    So were Manny and Papelbon tonight.
    (Apologies to SF-regulars here – the above is meant only for the few – perhaps only one – who try to belittle one of the only bright spots in the past couple weeks of Yankee baseball)

    IronHorse (yf) July 7, 2008, 1:53 am
  • +1 ironhorse
    what an entertaining thread! going back through this, it seems nothing like the game i saw through the bottom of my pint glass far removed from a keyboard.
    congrats on the split…to both teams i guess. should be fun come late august.
    now come on yanks, beat us some d-rays.

    sf rod July 7, 2008, 6:09 am
  • No worries IH, I thought DW’s comments were a little bitter too. Though I am impressed that Wake didn’t get shelled.
    Here’s hoping for a Yankees sweep of the DRays!

    Atheose July 7, 2008, 8:29 am
  • +10 for IH.
    Who’d have thought that Okajima would get through fine but Pappy would give up the game?

    A YF July 7, 2008, 8:48 am
  • Im surprised all you SFs are rooting for us of over the Rays. The Sox are closer to the Yankees in 3rd than they are to the Rays in 1st. As the previous thread alluded, its almost time for us all to be thinking about the WC…

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 8:50 am
  • Yeah Sam, I don’t know… I guess I feel like we can still win the division. My head tells me the Rays are for real (they are), but a small part of me feels like it’s all smoke and mirrors and they’ll drop back at the end, a la 2007 Brewers.

    Atheose July 7, 2008, 8:52 am
  • A great game. I’m not Paps fan, but that’s a tough way to lose. Two grounder’s up the middle. When Mo has fallen this year, that’s how it’s happened. Maybe one piece of decent contact, and a couple dinks. Baseball: a tough game.
    Meanwhile, the Sox can’t really complain about a depleted lineup to the Yanks. Seriously, Pot, Kettle. Black.
    Also. Watching Wakefield pitch is just flat fun, though it hurts.

    YF July 7, 2008, 8:58 am
  • Ath-
    The Rays are the real deal. I said they would be a force before the season started based on their roster and the team is performing even better than expected. They have a very well balanced lineup, great defense, and great starting pitching. This is basically how you describe most of the world series champions for the last 20 years (and maybe longer). I certainly dont buy the argument that their lack of experience will hurt them eventually. They actually have more experience than most give them credit for with most of the key players being at least 3 year vets. Secondly, this argument is specious anyway as many teams with limited experience have gone deep in the playoffs. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. The way the sox and the yankees have been playing over the last month, it wouldnt surprise me if the rays pull it out…

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 9:06 am
  • “Also. Watching Wakefield pitch is just flat fun, though it hurts.”
    Absolutely. The curve he dropped in to Jorge was just silly. no wonder he complained about getting taken out when he had struck out Jorge twice. And to think the Sox have another knuckleballer in Zink ready to go as soon as Wake retires.

    A YF July 7, 2008, 9:13 am
  • Yeah Sam, in no way was I trying to say they weren’t the real deal–it’s become pretty obvious (to both SF’s and YF’s dismay) that they are. I just have an irrational hope that they’ll fall apart and have some troubles pretty soon. So far they’ve been the most consistent team in baseball (except for maybe the Cubs), and a very very VERY small part of me thinks that if they have one really bad week they’ll implode in on themselves like a supernova.
    AYF, that curveball was absolutely gorgeous. I don’t think anyone in the stadium (or anyone watching from home) expected it.

    Atheose July 7, 2008, 9:29 am
  • On Mo potentially walking Manny with first-base open:
    “Why? There’s no reason to do that,” Rivera said. “Just go at him. You have to trust what you have.”
    GOAT.

    A YF July 7, 2008, 9:31 am
  • That curveball killed me, I said as much earlier in the post. Ive never seen wake throw anything but the flutterball and his “fastball”

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 9:42 am
  • Yeah Sam, we see it maybe once every other week. He usually throws it when he needs a strike, like he does his fastball.

    Atheose July 7, 2008, 9:44 am
  • On the off chance a hitter actually recognizes that thing when its thrown, see ya!

    Sam-YF July 7, 2008, 9:50 am
  • Yeah, same for his 75 mph “fastball”! Thankfully the knuckleball is so crazy that the fastball almost always surprises them.

    Atheose July 7, 2008, 9:59 am
  • One more note on the Rays: they’ve played the fewest road games in the league (38, tied with the Twins). They play 17 road games in the last month of the season, including a stretch (of both home and away) where they play 18 games in 17 days to end the season. In that stretch they play Boston, New York, Minnesota, Baltimore, and Detroit, all teams over .500 (with the exception of the red-hot Tigers, who are right at .500). If the Rays manage to fall from grace, it’ll be during that period.

    Atheose July 7, 2008, 11:32 am
  • “very very VERY small part of me thinks that if they have one really bad week they’ll implode in on themselves like a supernova.”
    Honestly this is always a very real possibility with young teams just starting to compete for a playoff spot/pennant for the first time…see 2005 Indians and 2003 Phillies for recent examples. I think the Rays have a bad stretch or two in them…whether or not they will blow a 7 game loss-column lead remains to be seen though.

    Mark (YF) July 7, 2008, 11:57 am

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