Gone in a Flash

Tom Gordon, Mo’s setup for the past two years, has reportedly signed with the Phils for 3 years and $18 million. We assume he wanted to close again, as this would not seem an astronomical contract for the Yanks to match given their wallet and the market rate set by the insane Blue Jay deal for BJ Ryan. It would have been nice to have had both Gordon and Kyle Farnsworth, who appears to be headed to the Yanks on similar terms. (Also needed is a lefty for the pen—Mike Myers and Ricardo Rincon being the oft-cited candidates). We’re sorry to see TGo go. We’ll miss his glowering mound presence, his finger points to the heavens after succesful outings, and of course his innings and dependability. If anything those last virtues (innings and dependability) cost him and the Yanks; overuse, or at least heavy use, seemed to leave him spent come October. We wish him well in the City of Brothertly Love. Except during interleague against the Yanks.

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  • I’ll join you in wishing him the best in Philly, but as you might have expected, I’m not particularly sad to see him go. I know he and Mo were buddies, and that during the regular season Gordo was more than solid, but the truth is that it wasn’t overuse that caused the big game blowups. He just doesn’t have the stomach for those situations. He admitted as much, YF. Doesn’t make him a bad human or anything, just someone who you didn’t want in there to face Manny and Papi with a one-run lead to protect. It’ll be interesting to see how he does closing again.

    Spidey December 2, 2005, 10:29 am
  • Spidey: I think those comments need contextualization. And lets keep in mind that even Mo has considerable trouble (and a spotty record) when it comes to shutting down Manny and Papi. The idea (his, yours, etc) that he doesn’t have “stomach” is based on his failures in October, which we might see as a product of his usage during the season. The fact that he barfed up a few cookies before a big outting doesn’t really mean much. Lot’s of players puke. Who knows how much what comes after is a product of nerves, or just the luck of the draw or a superior talent on the other end. Bottom line: when he’s healthy, he throws strikes, he throws hard, and his ball moves.

    YF December 2, 2005, 11:07 am
  • Sad to see him go, and I think I would have overpaid for his services. But it does seems as if he wanted to close somewhere, so it’s hard to find fault with anyone in the yankee front office right now.
    The Farnsworth signing (if it does indeed happen) seems reasonable enough. Certainly, it’s a better one than the Cubs’ offers to Eyre and Howry, and considering his upside (his plus 10k/9 rate last year shows that he dominant stuff), it could prove to be the best reliever signing of the off-season.
    The next course of action is to sign a LOOGY (rumor is that the Yanks are targeting Mike Myers, which is fine with me), and to fill in the rest of the bullpen with youngsters such as Colter Beane, Matt Smith, and Jason Anderson.
    For a yanks fan, this is a much different off-season from past ones. I can’t say I’m too thrilled by it, but then again, I can’t say I’m especially bothered either.

    Nick December 2, 2005, 11:27 am
  • As a Sox fan, I know that Gordon is a very good pitcher, but he never scared me. Bringing him into the game was always something that illicited excitement from me, as in “Yeah! Lets get em!” Its got nothing to do with his stats or anything else, but he was always pretty hittable against the Red Sox. Of course so are most pitchers, so take it with a grain of salt.
    Does anyone know whats holding up the Farnsworth deal? Wouldn’t it be something if the Yankees were left high and dry in the reliever market? Maybe it wouldn’t be that bad a thing for them though.

    mattymatty December 2, 2005, 12:07 pm
  • I read somewhere that Texas is competing with the yanks for Farnsworth

    Nick December 2, 2005, 12:18 pm
  • Espn is reporting that the yankees offered about 1/2 a mil more or so for Farnsworth than Texas. So, it looks like Veritek better watch himself…there’s a new sherif in town and he throws high-nineties heat.

    walein December 2, 2005, 3:39 pm
  • What is that supposed to mean?

    mattymatty December 2, 2005, 4:37 pm
  • Veritek is a bully player. His attack on the much disliked A-Rod was a perfect example of the short drunk guy picking on the precious nerd (that’s also kind of a d$%k) when all of his friends are right there. It was very weak and the only sad part about it was that since people don’t like Alex that much (whether it’s because of his highest contract in baseball, or because he’s a jerk–or both) no one really got on how lame and cheap an attack it was by Veritek.
    There’s nothing weaker than picking a fight with a guy that everyone knows doesn’t fight.
    Farnsworth will stand infront of you and body slam you…and if you take a shot at his guy he’ll come out from the dressing room (a-la Jimmy Super Fly) and drop-kick you. Jason veritek will be on his best behavior in games with Farnsworth around.

    walein December 2, 2005, 4:44 pm
  • Who’s “Veritek”? Whoever he is he sure seems to be as big a punk as Posuda.

    SF December 2, 2005, 6:03 pm
  • I’ve never seen Posada throw a punch while wearing protective gear over his whole body.

    Nick December 2, 2005, 6:19 pm
  • I understand that RSN has to protect their capt. and that spelling errors are a clear defense for the indefensible.
    Maybe Posada would lose in a fight with Varitek; and yet, there’s alot more jewlery on Jorge’s fingers, and Varitek’s beardish thing probably isn’t as much protection as he thinks it is.

    walein December 2, 2005, 6:37 pm
  • Ah, the “rings” defense. The Yanks fan’s last resort. Well done. There should be a name for this, a la “Godwin’s Law” – the first person to mention the rings loses. Perhaps “Phelps’ Law”, or something like that?

    SF December 2, 2005, 6:57 pm
  • That law only applies to small market teams or teams that haven’t won a ring in like 80 something years or so.

    walein December 2, 2005, 7:03 pm
  • That leaves basically the Cubs.

    SF December 2, 2005, 7:20 pm
  • and small market teams. It’s tough winning it all my friend. I’m jsut having a rough work day and taking out my frustraitions on my least favorite Sock. I do think Varitek’s fight with Rodriguez was lamer than A Rod’s slappy-fantastic play (though that was a wicked pissa).
    I’m learning to like the Farnsworth move, developing the beginnings of a narrative that may last for two or three years…Kyle Tightpants Farnsworth and his million dollar arm (and WWF–WWE now I guess?–contract)!

    walein December 2, 2005, 7:57 pm
  • Dude, the slap was waaaay lamer. Even to most objective fans (and many Yankees fans – just ask Spidey) the idea of the best player in all of baseball resorting to a weak-ass move like that is, well, weak-ass. Just imagine Jeter doing that for a moment.
    Pause.
    Exactly. You can’t. He wouldn’t do it. But you could see Jeter going after a guy in the heat of battle, jaw-to-jaw, at home plate.

    SF December 2, 2005, 9:03 pm
  • It wasn’t “heat of the battle, jaw to jaw…” it was a guy who turns around to say “what the fu–” and some drunk bearded guy is already pinned up to his chest and then starts wailing. It was pick-on-the-guy that isn’t fighting, charging the mound, or even pointing his bat at the pitcher.
    This is not to say it wasn’t “lame” when Alex Rodriguez got all slappy…it was sad. It was weak, and it was embarassing…but it wasn’t as lame as some thug, whose only contribution to baseball is that he reminds Sox fans of hairy 70s players they grew up watching on bar stools.
    The reason you wouldn’t see that happen between Jeter and Varitek is because “in-the-heat-of-the-battle”-Varitez is a coward who would never dream about throwing a punch at someone that was actually going to throw a punch back.
    Does it make A Rod a “whimp”? Probably. Does it make Varitek a punk? Definetely.

    walein December 2, 2005, 10:03 pm
  • Walein –
    You sir, are an idiot. I don’t mean to call names, but since you have decided to just start throwing names around like “drunk guy” and “varitez” and “bearded guy” (when Tek clearly has no beard) I figured I’d just chime in.
    As everyone knows, Tek was protecting Arroyo from any advance by A-Rod; there was no punches thrown until A-Rod pushed Varitek, which in turn, got his ass kicked for him. What was Tek supposed to do – back up and take off his gear before engaging? While in a bar fight, do you back up and take off your nice shirt before you hit the guy?
    And, since you are so clearly uninfomed on the issue – what makes a bigger “pussy” – a guy who actually stands up for what he thinks and protects the pitcher (Tek) or a guy who for years has pointed, yelled, threatend, and talked trash but never once went to the mound to back it up (Sheffield)?
    A-Rods little queer ways to cheat by looking innocent (slapping the ball away, throwing his elbow into inside pitches, and standing in front of the ball getting thrown in from right field) is clearly the reason he is unliked, and has nothing to do with his “nerdiness”. He didn’t get his ass kicked because Tek was a “drunk” bully – and nor did he get his ass kicked because “tek was showing off in front of his friends” – he got his ass kicked because he started running his mouth at Arroyo and pushing Varitek down the first base line. Or maybe you watched a different game than I did.
    Is Varitek a punk? The guy who doesn’t say a word all season and just goes out and gets the job done with irregular regularity- I think not. Is Jeter disliked (well, other than by me for my own reasons)? The answer is no – because he plays the geme the way it is supposed to be played. Yeah, he might take four or five too many steps before diving into the stands, but he still takes the game like it’s his last and that’s why he’s admired so passionately by the NYY fans – much like our own captain in Boston.
    Lay off, Jerk. You do not create a substantial enough word battle to illicit the attention of a ten year old – much less a group of baseball fans (like most of us on this site) who live and breathe the success of our teams – and, our captains.
    I once said Jeter was overraated, and that’s all I said, and it created a page full of smackdowns and statistical copy and paste moves that made my head spin –
    Please, please don’t make the Sox fans on this site do the same for you.
    Give credit to a catcher standing up for his pitcher – no matter who it is. If Posada punched Manny for charging or pretending to charge, like A-Rod, I would say that Manny deserved it –
    I would not call him a fat drunk.
    But, that just may be the difference between you and I.
    I understand baseball, and you talk nonsense.
    No offense, but please shut up on this issue – you clearly have the full fledged Yankee blinders on here, and quite frnakly, they are prohibiting you from seeing the way a real catcher and team leader acts.

    Brad-SF December 2, 2005, 10:43 pm
  • Also on Farnsworth?
    99mph fastballs over the center of the plate land 450ft away. Just ask the fans of Chicago and Atlanta.
    I applaud this move more than any other that has been made this far.
    Are Sox fan supposed to be worry about the strong arm of Kyle Farnsworth – a guy with one pitch and one pitch only? I applaud the move by Mr.Cashman.
    Please.
    I pray that I see the likes of Kyle Farnsworth in the bottom of the sixth or seventh in a one run game in October.
    Yankee fans should be weary that this guy is just another (in a very long line) of guy cashing in on Yankee bullpen woes. Need I remind you of the Yankee pitcher that should be picking up their checks with hooded masks on?
    Be prepared – Kyle Farnsworth is no Tom Gordon. As much as I dislike Flash, he was dependable, ready, and passionate every time they needed him to be. Well, minus a few, but there’s only one perfect. But, since you decided that the “million dollar arm” of Farnsworth is the answer to the said woes – there is a good chance we don’t see quite as much as the perfect one as you would like.
    Do you even watch baseball? And, by that I mean, other than what shows up on YES and UPN every week?
    Just asking is all, because praising Farnworth is JUST as stupid as giving Wagner the option for a fifth year at Shea.
    YF’s are getting robbed if they give any more than 4mill per for this guy –
    But it won’t be the first time Steinbrenner makes a hasty move when he finds the rest of the league is making moves around him and there have been Mets on the back page for the past two weeks.

    Brad-SF December 2, 2005, 10:55 pm
  • Also – Varitek is 6’3″ and 220lbs.
    Hardly Short or fat uless you happen to be Shaq in disguise.
    But, I would not expected you to look up any of that info before shooting off at the mouth.

    Brad-SF December 2, 2005, 11:06 pm
  • Brad-SF, I think that walein was over reaching, but I don’t quite understand your comments concerning the Veritek/ARod incident. On one hand you say that ARod is known to NOT get into fights, but then you justify Veritek going after him to protect his pitcher. What was he protecting him from? The never hit anyone, nerd ARod? Give me a break. What Veritek did was uncalled for.

    bronxborn December 3, 2005, 3:00 am
  • Uncalled for? Not at all. In fact, ARod welcomed him to do it.

    Sam December 3, 2005, 8:06 am
  • “On one hand you say that ARod is known to NOT get into fights, but then you justify Veritek going after him to protect his pitcher. ”
    bronxborn – I think Brad-SF was talking about Sheffield.
    Not to get into this whole mess again, buuuuuuuut… Ol’ Purple Lips was the one mouthing off. Everyone knows that. He got hit by an Arroyo pitch (a bad curve ball) and then started yelling at Arroyo. Fine. But don’t expect Tek to let you try to scream at his pitcher. No good catcher would. So Tek stands in front of him and tells A-Hole to go to first, but probably not in so nice a way. Then A-Hole starts jawing at Tek. After a bit, you can see A-Hole mouth the words “come on” when you’re watching the tape. So Tek let him have it.
    This, by the way, is both what Tek said about it and what Slappy has admitted to, as well. If you watch the videotape you can see the whole thing.
    Why did Tek hit him? Was it frustration? That was probably part of it. Was it protecting his pitcher? Probably some of that as well.
    Personally, I think A-Hole is MLB’s version of the stuck-up rich kid on the playground who never shares his toys with anyone. Nobody likes him because he thinks that he’s the greatest thing ever and you can’t hit him with a stick because the teacher is always around.

    mattymatty December 3, 2005, 9:16 am
  • Look, I like ragging on A-Rod. I think he’s got some vanity issues. Actually, it’s pretty clear that he’s got major vanity issues and problems with insecurity. The slap thing was stupid. The whole “I get up earlier than everyone else” thing was stupid (it may be true, but stupid to advertise). The “I saved a kid crossing Newbury Street” advertisement of heroism thing was totally stupid. But the guy is also real enough to be dealing with these issues. Or, he’s real enough to be willing to go overtly on the record and advertise that he’s trying to get help with this stuff. Either way, Sox fan or Yanks fan, I think we can just admit that he’s the best ballplayer around, he’s not a clubhouse cancer (where’s the proof?), and that any reasonable baseball fan would probably benefit from his being on their chosen team. At least until the next colossally vain thing he does.

    SF December 3, 2005, 9:45 am
  • Brad, explain to me how A-Rod got his ass kicked. I remember V-Tek throwing one punch, and that’s it. Then I remember A-Rod getting Varitek in a headlock and repeatedly punching him in the face mask. Is that an ass-kicking? Pretty low standards for an ass-kicking.

    Nick December 3, 2005, 11:24 am
  • “Are Sox fan supposed to be worry about the strong arm of Kyle Farnsworth – a guy with one pitch and one pitch only?”
    Brad, he has two pitches: a fastball and a slider which he learned last year. Some people think this latter addition is the reason for his best season in the majors. I hope.

    Nick December 3, 2005, 11:39 am
  • I am going to hunt down and kick Brad-SF’s ass. He is a punk bitch who needs a good ass whooping. Brad, you are a marked man, er, I mean biyotch!

    A-Rod December 3, 2005, 12:23 pm
  • Go put on some purple lipstick, A-Rod.

    mattymatty December 3, 2005, 12:55 pm
  • I personally like Farnsworth’s slider, but if his playoff performance is any indication, he has yet to learn the art of mixing his pitches.

    Sam December 3, 2005, 7:33 pm
  • Just click the link –
    I’d be happy to send you directions. In fact, I may be happy to meet you halfway on most days.

    brad-SF December 4, 2005, 1:13 am
  • Sure there’s over-reacting involved. Not the over-reacting of three back to back posts taking up more space than the 600 about Jeter ( and who he’s schnooking) but a little anger towards the capt. of the Sox. However, attacking my knowledge of baseball in order to throw smoke and mirrors around a taped event is ridiculous. VEritek’s mask and body was pressed up on ARod, ARod was turning when VEritek decided to “bum-rush” him and therefore ARod wasn’t even on both feet. Pushing the Tek monster was a matter of being walked over or keeping ones balance and trying to combat an insane drunken aggressiveness.
    To even pretend that Varitek is defending himself, and to even pretend that ARod was making advances to the mound or towards Arroyo is silly.
    Was it a move to “get into ARod’s head? Possibly. Was it because Varitez had some noble jock ethic he was following? No. Sorry. No that wasn’t it t all.
    He was picking on someone that doesn’t fight and someone that may very well be a huge jerk. What makes Varitek a “punk” is that “punks” bully on people who don’t fight; but if say, Gary Shefield had taken a step or if Gary Shefield had taken his bat and thrown it at Arroyo, the MOST Varitek would have done was try to hold Gary. Not a chance that the chivalrous Varitek would rush him and/or take swings at him.
    NOTE: When I call him “short” I mean his personality and probably what he himself sees in the mirror every morning–most everyone in professional sports is a Giant when compared to the rest of the world’s population.
    Also, one of the reasons I originally called him short is that when you watch the play in question he is standing a full 4-6 inches below Alex. The reason? Because he’s pushed himself under and up into AROD while Arod’s back was turned and so Alex Rodriguez is actually on one leg on his tip toes when he “pushes” Varitek in such a “terrorizing” fashion.
    Varitek is a jerk and a bully.
    A Rod mouthing “c’mon” was unprompted by any of the highly inflamatory bulshit that was probably coming out of Varitek’s mouth, and probably had been coming out of his mouth while A Rod was up at bat. The idea that “c’mon” is excuse for taking the first punch is…well, c’mon!

    walein December 5, 2005, 2:21 pm
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