Proving that every day is not Theo’s day, the Royals today picked up second baseman Tony Graffanino (a decent glove man with a .366 obp) off the waiver wire. In exchange, Theo secured exactly nothing. Nada. Zilch. Zippo.
by YF on March 28, 2006 at 4:18 pm in
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Straw, meet YF’s grasp.
The Red Sox are no longer responsible for paying Graffanino, who had no place on the team. The “error”, if you want to call it that (I am sure you do), was that the Red Sox offered TG arbitration in the hopes that he would turn it down, thus securing a draft pick if he was signed elsewhere. Graf accepted arbitration and elected to lock in a salary, probably somewhat to the surprise of the front office, though they obviously knew the risk of offering arbitration. But since nobody would give up anything for him in a trade, the Red Sox took the only plausible solution, waived him, and were fortunate that a team jumped immediately and picked up his salary. So it’s not the loss that you make it out to be, YF. The Red Sox took a gamble for a few hundred thousand that they’d get a draft pick (likely worth well more than that cash). They didn’t win the bet. They didn’t lose much of anything either.
If this is the best you can do in sniping at Theo that says something.
SF March 28, 2006 at 4:50 pm
Seeing as Cash was actually able to convert Womack into a pair of warm bodies (including one who had a very nice spring training) under similar circumstances, this doesn’t seem like Theo’s greatest hour. But I would not contest your analysis of the situation.
YF March 28, 2006 at 5:10 pm
I’d say anytime you get nothing for giving up something, even of dubious value, you’ve lost out.
Joe in NYC March 28, 2006 at 5:13 pm
The risk/reward was getting nothing for Graffanino then or now, or getting a draft pick then or nothing now. They don’t offer him arb back then, then they get nothing, have no opportunity to retain his services under any circumstances. If they offer him arbitration, they either get nothing when they waive him (like just happened) or a draft pick if he declines the arbitration. Seems like a no-brainer to me. I can’t understand how this turns into “not Theo’s greatest hour”. This is some seriously weak criticism of Theo on both your parts.
SF March 28, 2006 at 5:22 pm
The ironic thing is that the Royals DFA’d Chip Ambres to make room on their roster for Graffanino.
mouse March 28, 2006 at 6:30 pm
theo got a high draft pick.
Beth March 28, 2006 at 7:16 pm
…or so i thought. my bad.
gotta agree, though, that it’s grasping at straws either way. god knows YOUR gm’s never let someone go or picked someone up on the waiver wire, right?
Beth March 28, 2006 at 7:18 pm
Does this mean that Enrique Wilson will make the team as a backup infielder/
therapist for Manny?
the new and improved whatever March 28, 2006 at 8:19 pm
I wouldn’t think so, TNAIWE. The Sox are stacked with infielders, and with Lowell, Gonzalez, Youk, Loretta, Snow, and Cora all locks to make the team, there really is no place for Wilson on the roster. Things may change, but if we are going to add another infielder, I would hope for it to be Machado. I just think he brings a lot to the table, plus he can play just about every position except for pitcher, catcher, and possibly first. And then there’s Choi, which is a whole nother possibility. So, to answer your question, no, I don’t think Wilson will be on the team to start the season.
Laura March 28, 2006 at 9:50 pm
Laura, I figured Cora would stick, but other than him, Wilson is the only other middle-infielder left with a shot to make the club, unless I’m forgetting somebody.
I believe Machado has been optioned to Pawtucket.
I thought Wilson might have an edge for a roster spot because of his friendship with Manny, who could be missing some of his recently departed buddies.
I’m sure everyone wants Manny to be happy.
All this being said, I suppose E. Wilson is still a longshot to make the club.
the new and improved whatever March 28, 2006 at 10:26 pm
What a silly post.
Epstein *put* Graff on waivers. It was the Sox choice to get rid of him for “bupkis.”
I personally like Graffanino a lot, and am disappointed that they didn’t find a place for him. But it’s not like Theo got shafted here… He was trying to shed salary for a player who had become extraneous, because the needs he was brought to fill had been filled in other ways.
Typical Yankee Fan myopia.
Hudson March 28, 2006 at 10:43 pm
It should also be noted that Theo had tried to trade Tony G. to the Dodgers…
…For Hee Seop Choi, whom we eventually got for bumpkis. At least now the Sox don’t have to pay all of Tony’s salary.
Yes, in retrospect it was a bad idea to offer arbitration to him, but, hey, you’d think it’d be hard to imagine that he would actually accept it. Although I do feel bad for the dude for having to be a back-up in Kansas City after being a starter in Boston.
Hunter March 29, 2006 at 1:15 am
With that said, the fact that Cashman was able to get anything at all in exchange for Tony Womack is a remarkable achievement.
Hunter March 29, 2006 at 1:17 am
in retrospect it was a bad idea to offer arbitration to him
Why was it a bad idea? This I don’t get. If they didn’t offer him arb, they would have had no shot at a draft pick. They gambled small money and lost. That doesn’t go into the “bad idea” column. Signing Jaret Wright? If Theo had done that, then I’d go right along with the premise…
SF March 29, 2006 at 6:15 am
Let’s all file this foolish little thread under “Grasping at Straws.”
Craig March 29, 2006 at 6:21 am
Also, last I checked, saving half a million in salary isn’t bupkis.
Eric March 29, 2006 at 11:13 am
the only thing that’s dubious in this situation is that, in effect, Theo screwed Graffanino. By offering him arbitration he scared teams away from signing the guy to 2-plus year contracts. Tony G took arbitration because he was getting the cold shoulder on the open market. The guy lost money and security as a result. It’s actually good business practice by Theo, but as for the ethics of the situation…
NickYF March 29, 2006 at 11:17 am
Nick – yeah, that’s the way it turned out, and for those of us who really like the guy (and who doesn’t?), it’s an unfortunate situation for Graf. But screwing him over definitely wasn’t Theo’s intention; the Sox simply overestimated the demand for him. Had another team signed him, both he and the Sox would’ve benefited. The situation sucks, but I wouldn’t say there were any problems of “ethics”, as you say.
(And of course, there’s the familiar issue of us talking about “lack of job security” and “loss of income” for a guy whose lifetime earnings top five million dollars…)
Earl March 29, 2006 at 11:26 am
The person who screwed over Graf was his agent, who advised him to accept arbitration.
SF March 29, 2006 at 11:31 am
Ethics? I won’t pull the whole “Baseball is a business” stuff on you, NickYF, because we both know it is. Just explain how Graffanino’s 2006 salary of $2.06 Million amounts to getting screwed? Thats a silly statement to make.
As for if it was a good idea or not, of course it was. Offering Graf arbitration not only allowed the Sox to possibly recoup a draft pick, but it gave them (what turned out to be free) injury insurance during the spring as well.
mattymatty March 29, 2006 at 11:32 am
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