Hello and Good Bye

Let us catch up on a little bookkeeping here. In case you missed it in your preparations for the holidays, the Yanks signed LaTroy Hawkins, formerly of the Rockies, and the Rockies signed Jose Vizcaino, formerly of the Yankees. Kind of a swap, but with supplemental draft picks for each team, and the Yanks save some cash. Barring additional moves, that makes the Yanks pen Mo, Farns, Hawkins, and whomever impresses Joe G. during spring training, though one slot may go to Joba Chamberlain for at least part of the year, in order to keep his inning count down, a prospect that instills fear in those worried that it might become a permanent gig for him. Happy Happy. Merry Merry, and all that.

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  • Yanks get a supplemental pick for the Viz but don’t give up one for Hawkins. N-iiiice.

    Anonymous December 28, 2007, 11:54 am
  • Ho-hum would be a grossly exagerrated way to describe my emotions over the Yanks off-season moves to-date. I of course don’t begrudge, and in fact welcome, the re-signings of Posada, Mo, Pettitte, and A-Rod (though I still can’t get used to the fact that A-Rod will become the face of the Yankees over the course of the coming decade and feel deeply ambivalent about it). But I’m not thrilled to have Kyle Farnsworth, for the time being anyway, filling such a critical position in our bullpen, and LaTroy does not do much for that one way or the other.
    Of course, there is still time and I am mostly pretty happy with the make-up of these Yankees so big or multiple moves may simply not be in the offing this year. But it is just a very boring off-season save the distasteful and rather tiring saga of steroids, lawyers, and…more lawyers.

    IronHorse (yf) December 28, 2007, 12:11 pm
  • I think the Yankee pen will surprise (by doing well, which is the only way it would surprise) in 2008. Likewise, I think the Sox’s pen will disappoint. Such is the way with bullpens and our expectations for them.
    Personally, I think Edwar Ramirez will cement himself as the setup man. Kid’s got way too much talent and way too good a changeup to wallow in AAA ball. We saw flashes last year, but in the middle of a season where every game was must-win, and an incompetent manager and lacking pitching coach, it was not the greatest environment to introduce oneself to the majors.
    When will we have a 2008 prediction thread, not just records but how we think certain players will do? I seem to remember something like that last year.

    AndrewYF December 28, 2007, 3:15 pm
  • Waiting on Baseball Prospectus to release the PECOTA numbers, Andrew. Then I’ll get to work on the projection threads.
    Also, there’s a pretty big chip that’s still gotta move before we really know what our teams will look like in 2008. I forget his name, though. ;-)

    Paul SF December 28, 2007, 3:39 pm
  • I’m just taking a “wait and see” attitude into 2008. We pretty much look like the same team. The same team that bowed out in the ALDS again. A lot of young pitchers are going to have to step up big-time to get us over the hump. (by hump I mean the ALDS!) The pen is lacking, as well as the starting rotation…at least for 2008. We’ll see what happens.

    krueg December 28, 2007, 3:40 pm
  • Andrew, I hope you’re right. My concern with Edwar is that you need to throw a change-up off of something. His is good enough and with enough range that he can get away with throwing a change off a change (his 88 mph change and then his 79 change) but I don’t think that is at all sustainable. Of course if I prove wrong and you prove right, I would be thrilled.

    IronHorse (yf) December 28, 2007, 6:44 pm
  • I agree that Guidry may have not been the best pitching coach and that Torre may have not put Edwar in the best situations, but this kid is not a set up man. Unless he develops another pitch him becoming a setup man is highly unlikely. Like IH said that changeup has to be thrown off something else and he just doesn’t have it.

    John - YF December 28, 2007, 7:05 pm

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