Hometown Scoring

Inside the parker for Trot?  Absolutely NOT.  Error all the way.

I’ve gotta think that Bernie is wondering how he got benched for this Lonnie Smith wannabee…

(treat this as an open thread to chat about the game)

45 comments… add one
  • I’ve stopped watching the game. Series is tied 1-1. Hope Randy pitches like the Randy of 2004 tomorrow.

    Nick July 15, 2005, 8:05 pm
  • Yeah,
    I’d be hoping too.

    Brad-SF July 15, 2005, 8:39 pm
  • Where are all those boisterous Yankees fans? Hello?
    (and where are my fellow Sox fans, for that matter?)

    SF July 15, 2005, 8:39 pm
  • It’s hard to be boisterous in such a underwhelming beatdown. The last two times the Yanks have beaten the Sox, it’s been by way of the very late inning home run, so those games are exciting – but the others have just been laughable – even for a sox fan.
    This is however, a prime example of why the Sox are going to have a three day out of five advantage over the Yanks for the next few weeks.
    Yankees really need to go get a pitcher if they want to stay in this race. I konw the Sox hurlers are not at the top of the list, but holy cow, at least they are starting major leaguers with respectable ERA’s.
    If I were a Yank fan, I’d be hoping for a major move anytime now (say, tonight).

    Brad-SF July 15, 2005, 8:44 pm
  • an excellent point, considering that the second guy they roughed up tonight was, according to jerry remy, the guy they were going to start on sunday…

    rcolonna July 15, 2005, 9:14 pm
  • Woohoo! Ortiz has done nada tonight. The Yanks have figured him out! Boo ya!
    Boisterous Yanks fan checking in. Where were you last night, SF?

    Nick July 15, 2005, 9:24 pm
  • Doh!

    Nick July 15, 2005, 9:26 pm
  • Come on. Four grand slams and we’re right back in this.

    YF July 15, 2005, 9:27 pm
  • Hey, I posted last night, during the game.
    Just not at the end.

    SF July 15, 2005, 9:28 pm
  • What we’ve learned tonight:
    -the Yanks are going t need a little help in the rotation over the next couple of weeks, at a minimum (but at least we found out quickly)
    -Melky should probably still be in AA, which is no slight.
    -that Ortiz guy hits pretty good,

    YF July 15, 2005, 9:36 pm
  • YF: what about the Yanks bullpen? If the rotation is troubled, then it follows that the bullpen will be overworked and similarly troubled, a la tonight (and last night, to some extent, with Mussina going only 6). If you are right about the rotation, which I think you are, then your first point is incomplete.

    SF July 15, 2005, 9:42 pm
  • What a joke. I saw this coming, what with the absolute muppets we had pitching tonight; but still, this is embarrassing. Ah well, bring on tommorrow. Enjoy, Sox fans. This is your season’s high point.

    Sam July 15, 2005, 9:50 pm
  • SF: Torre does of course have the propensity to overwork whatever horse seems to be running well, but there’s only so much that can be done. It may actually help the bullpen by allowing Jason Anderson, Scott Proctor, and Colter Bean to develop on the ML level. And the Sturtze, Gordon, Rivera trifecta remains the gold standard in baseball. Indeed, the one thing the Yanks have going for them pitching-wise is that they seem to have 9 innings to score, while they’re opponents only get 7. That’s a pretty nice advantage.

    YF July 15, 2005, 9:55 pm
  • I think we’ve also learned that Shawn Chacon will probably be on the Yanks by the end of the weekend. That probably is not a good thing.

    Nick July 15, 2005, 9:56 pm
  • YF, that’s a pretty good insight about Anderson and Proctor. One of Torre’s faults is his over reliance on his trusted relievers. This is going to force him into having to use young pitchers he doesn’t like to use. A couple of them (Colter Beane and Colter Bean) have some real upside.

    Nick July 15, 2005, 9:58 pm
  • Adam Stern looks like Jim Edmonds little brother. If he plays anything like him, the Sox are in awfully good shape.

    YF July 15, 2005, 10:00 pm
  • Our high point, Sam?
    That’s a really big stretch, and clearly the desperate cry of a fan witnessing the disintegration of his beloved team in real time.
    I’ll state the exact opposite: don’t get too down on your team, since you haven’t come close to seeing the Yanks’ low point. Leave some room down there.

    SF July 15, 2005, 10:06 pm
  • Actually Sam,
    I’m not gloating here, but didn’t the Sox already beat up on the yankees by 17 runs or so about a month ago? This hardly qualifies as the season’s high point. In fact, much like the every game minus a few (opening day, the sheff HR of Embree, and last night), the Yanks have failed miserably in thier attemp to match up to the Sox this year. They had a soft schedule the first half, and the Sox played .500 baseball against most teams they should be (Angels twice, Braves, Texas twice, and Cleveland Twice…), so I happen to think the high point will come in the second half when they actually have an easier schedule, a comperable amount of home games to the Yanks (oh yeah, the yanks played about ten more home games than the Sox in the first half), and not to mention the return of Schill. Granted, Schill was not himself last night, but at least the Sox have that on the horizon as a maybe – unlike the Yanks, who if they do get pithcing will lose Cano or Duncan, don’t really have much to look foreward to in the other half. My highlight, will be looking at the standings every day, in all hopes of watching the Yanks struggle through with the likes of Redding, Pavano, and if Sox fans are really lucky, Al Leiter in the rotation.
    Highlights indeed Sam.

    Brad-SF July 15, 2005, 10:08 pm
  • Adam Stern is very very fast, and he was a nice rule 5er, but Jim Edmonds’ little brother? Is it “baseball analysis and bong night” at the YF household?

    SF July 15, 2005, 10:09 pm
  • “In fact, much like the every game minus a few (opening day, the sheff HR of Embree, and last night), the Yanks have failed miserably in thier attemp to match up to the Sox this year.”
    Brad, I believe the season series record this year was 5-5 going into this game. Take it down a notch, buddy.

    Nick July 15, 2005, 10:11 pm
  • 17-1
    Man, glad it did not take a last inning HR to get this one done.

    Brad-SF July 15, 2005, 10:12 pm
  • Nice win, but it only counts for one. Tomorrow’s the feared Unit, and the series could shift back, momentum-wise. Still, a good comeback after last night’s pain.
    One last request, as I head off to bed and then out of town until Sunday: Theo, PLEASE, do something about the Bellhorn situation.

    SF July 15, 2005, 10:14 pm
  • sox fans, why not just put mueller at 2b, and bring up Youk and have him play 3b? Seems you have the solution at your fingertips.

    Nick July 15, 2005, 10:15 pm
  • SF & Brad SF –
    You’re cruel and heartless men.
    Come to think of, all men with SF in their name are cruel and heartless men.
    I think October 2004 also gave you all amnesia. We can trump any abuse youse guys heap on.
    And in the words of the greatest catcher of all time, It ain’t over til it’s over.

    john yf July 15, 2005, 10:16 pm
  • Very good question Nick, one that’s been asked. I wonder if the Sox are worried about Mueller’s knee, having to deal with the turn at second. He also may just be uncomfortable at second, having only played 53 games there in his career. He’s not, as many people think, a multi-position guy. That’s unfortunate, as if he had a bit more experience at the position the move would be a no-brainer.
    As a side note, it’s fun to see Kay and Singleton saying that it’s much better to lose 17-1 than to lose like the Sox did last night. I would venture that that’s true, if you win the game like the Yanks won the day AFTER you lost 17-1, not the day before.

    SF July 15, 2005, 10:20 pm
  • John YF: what is cruel and heartless about “it’s only one win”, “the momentum could easily shift back tomorrow”? My quip to Sam was that, a quip.
    This is what I get: I can’t even be levelheaded without being smeared by some Yankees fans.

    SF July 15, 2005, 10:21 pm
  • The Sox were routed and then went on to win 8 very important games in a row, so maybe Kay and Singleton are right.

    Nick July 15, 2005, 10:24 pm
  • How’d the Yankees do the week after the Sox last destroyed them, about a month ago? Bad theory.

    SF July 15, 2005, 10:27 pm
  • true. I’m not a proponent of any theory of Kay’s or Singleton’s. The more profound question is: Is there such a thing as momentum in baseball? That’s a zen koan.
    And with that, I go out and enjoy the night. All be well, and go Randy!

    Nick July 15, 2005, 10:31 pm
  • So Nick
    I know you are a pretty good poster, and also seemingly intelligent about the Yanks, so here goes:
    If I’m so wrong about the advantage of play this year, and your confident the Yanks have outplayed the Sox (even though it did take the last inning HR’s), are you disagreeing with me about the rest?
    Are you arguing my point that the Sox have a huge advantage over the next month, and then again in the last month of the season, and do you think the Yanks can get pitching without losing, as YF calls him, the super rookie? I’m just interested, becasue I see these things as no-brainers.

    Brad-SF July 15, 2005, 10:33 pm
  • SF: Looks like Edmonds. As in resemble in physical appearance. How he plays I have no idea.

    YF July 15, 2005, 10:39 pm
  • I’d imagine tomorrow’s game will be lower-scoring with the Unit and Clement squaring off.
    Could be wrong, but you never know. I’m still waiting till Sunday to make any final calls about either team.

    Sox Fan in VT July 15, 2005, 10:56 pm
  • Lets hope not, because as much as the Yanks are hoping to not have one of those starts for RJ, I’m praying he doesn’t see the third equally!

    Brad-SF July 16, 2005, 2:57 am
  • Also, When did Pudge Fisk say “it aint over till it’s over”:))

    Brad-SF July 16, 2005, 3:00 am
  • HA! True enough, Brad.
    Naturally, I’d love to see the Unit collapse on national TV while Clement pitches a no-hitter. But I have to take these types of series one game at a time…otherwise I might get cocky.
    Go Boston!

    Sox Fan in VT July 16, 2005, 3:39 am
  • According to the New York Post, Al Leiter will start for the Yankees on Sunday in Fenway Park.
    Oh Man, this keeps getting better.
    Low level minor leaguers to Florida – Florida eats some of the contract, and the Yanks pick up another crappy pitcher in return who almost always has 150 pitches by the fifth inning.
    I’m really excited about this, and it’s almost better than whoever else they were going to run out there. At least Leiter has a scouting sheet, most of which says – swing late, and swing hard, but only after taking six pitches.

    Brad-SF July 16, 2005, 4:40 am
  • Sox fan in VT –
    You’ve been a Sox fan a long time (im assuming, since you understood my Fisk poke), so you should know that saying the words “no hitter” is a huge mistake before it happens, and is almost always ends in disaster. Who are you Don Orsillo? hahah!

    Brad-SF July 16, 2005, 4:53 am
  • Waaaay too literal for me, YF.

    SF July 16, 2005, 7:23 am
  • SF
    Need I point out I was joshin’?
    Acquiring Leiter is a no brainer. He was excellent last year — better than Boomer for example. Did he really lose it ALL overnight, or will he, like Olerud, benefit from a change of location? After all, he’s a New Yorker.
    Boomer 2004 3.73 Inn 195.2 H 203
    Leiter 2004 3.21 Inn 173.2 H 138
    Boomer Career 4.06
    Leiter Career 3.76
    Brad SF
    Your scouting sheet on Leiter reminds of the one I read on Schilling — swing early, swing hard. I sure will be sorry if we see you with egg on your face at the end of Sunday’s game.

    john yf July 16, 2005, 8:56 am
  • John SF
    Are you really comparing the scouting sheets of Schilling and Leiter?
    One homerun and people lose their senses. How’s Leiter doing lately? I’m sure a return to NY is really going to help his cause, since there is so much less pressure and all. I mean, it’s not like he’s going to come in and face the Mets lineup.
    Isn’t Redding a hometown NY boy as well? And, I believe I’ve watched Boomer absolutely shut down the Yankees twice, the Cardinals, Texas, and the Orioles this year. In case you’re not aware, those are the best lineups in the league not named Boston.
    Besides, I love eggs
    206 million, and a midseason pickup of Al Leiter to stop the bleeding. Again, great job Cashman

    Brad-SF July 16, 2005, 9:40 am
  • Bradsf – One homerun?
    Three pitches, one dent in the green monster, one home run at the BACK of the Tony C seats, one game lost to a man who’s “not a real Yankee.”
    I’d say Leiter’s doing better lately.
    1 and 3, 8.68 is better how, exactly?

    john yf July 16, 2005, 9:55 am
  • Here’s the thing John, and I’m not even going to argue about Schilling being better than Al friggin Leiter, but lets look at things realistically. The Yankees are going to have RJ on the hill tonight, so their chances of winning are pretty good. Tomorrow, who knows. Monday, who knows, and that schedule can be pretty much repeated for the next two weeks. The Sox are going to start their normal starters every one of those days. I’m not so much as demeaning Al Leiter, (however he was DFA’ed by the Florida Marlins, cant get out of the third inning this year, and is pretty much ineffective all the way around), as I’m looking at things realistically. The Yanks are now going to play the teams that Boston already played, with a really bad rotation.
    So, if you would rather have Al Leiter in on your team than Curt Schilling (if that’s your argument, which it seems it is), I guess thats your choice, but it would go a LONG way to explaining some of your posts here sometimes.
    Also, since you want to talk about Schilling, why don’t we talk about times he’s walked through the lineup vs. times that lineup has gotten to him? I mean, I do give him a pass for giving up two hits to a pair of the best hitters in the league right off the DL – or have you forgotten how many times you’ve forgiven Randy Johnson this year?
    And, it was only one HR.

    Brad-SF July 16, 2005, 10:22 am
  • In July

    Brad-SF July 16, 2005, 10:23 am
  • Since Schilling turned 32, he has averaged 16 wins, a 3.28 ERA and 238 K per year over the course of seven seasons while being chosen for five All-Star Games and being voted to three top-five CY finishes. I wonder, when both get going the right way and healthy, which is better to have around?

    Brad-SF July 16, 2005, 10:50 am
  • It was only 3 pitches, in a big tie game, in the 9th, against the non-Yankee.
    You sure do get riled up Bradsf.

    john yf July 16, 2005, 11:03 am

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