I’ll Take 763 Spicy Tuna Rolls, Please. And a Bud Light.

Today the Boston Globe debunks some of the claims made over the last week in the media and in these parts (by yours truly, admittedly) about how much money Daisuke Matsuzaka can bring in directly to the Red Sox.   The story contains the obligatory Andrew Zimbalist quote, as well as some thoughts that sushi at the Fens may be the way to financial redemption.  We’re skeptical, officially.  We want to know more.  Anyone on the inside have access to MLB’s full revenue sharing policy that they’d be willing to (anonymously) PDF to us here at YFSF?   

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  • I dunno, SF. I know what it all says, and I understand it totally, but I just can’t imagine that they’re not going to get their money back in one way or another.
    But, I will say this. If, in fact it’s true that the Red Sox FO is more concerned with winning this year than making a huge profit overseas, kudos to them even more.
    Red Sox fans have waited, and complained, for a great long time about the money aspect of the game being more important than the winning. Many of us have secretly, and not so secretly longed to have an owner like Steinbrenner who stepped up and made the necessary adjustments to a team during the offseason.
    If you ask me, this is more on Theo’s hands. After the stones it took to do what he did in 2004, my guess is that he wants to win more than anyone, and in turn make a huge profit doing it.
    It doesn’t surprise me that after all his contract negotiations, not being here for the meetings last year, the creative differences between him and some others in the FO (Lucchino, who I’d suspect was completely against this), this is totally Theo’s baby. If it works for him this year, just imagine the praise he gets? But, of course that blade is sharp on both sides.

    Brad November 15, 2006, 11:21 am
  • Scott Boras (yes, it’s Scott Boras, of “Johnny Damon is better than Ricky Henderson” fame) says in the Globe today that Matsui provides $21M a year in Japanese revenue.

    Paul SF November 15, 2006, 11:27 am
  • You need to have a MBA from Harvard and a Phd. from MIT just to make coffee in the Red Sox front office these days, trust me, I have tried many angles to get a marketing/biz dev job there and I simply don’t have the paper for it.
    I’m going to trust that army of business brains before I trust that article or a professor.

    LocklandSF November 15, 2006, 11:32 am
  • Paul, I would suggest that’s bad news for the Sox. Obviously they’ll get a deal done, but if Boras is peddling “he’ll bring you $21m a year in revenue” line then he’s going to shoot for the stars in his contract demands.
    Also, does the fact that the Sox paid so much to negotiate with him not weaken their bargaining position? I mean, they’ve essentially revealed how badly they want him. We all know Boras likes to go for the jugular…

    Sam November 15, 2006, 11:52 am
  • I think you’re off here, Sam. I can however see it happening, but knowing the interest in JD Drew, and the fact that the Red Sox do deal with him on the regular basis, I can’t see him raking the Sox here. Also, can we stop assuming that this deal is putting the Red Sox in some kind of financial bind? We don’t know what the books look like, and assuming that an organization is going to put all it’s money into one player and hope for the best is, well, Texas like. Boston is certainly not being oprtated like Tom Hicks, so initially we have to assume that the Red Sox have gone into this deal knowing that it can only be a part of what must happen in the months to come.

    Brad November 15, 2006, 11:57 am
  • I’m just curious, if this doesn’t work out (say Boras is his greedy self), would this make Matsuzaka an 18 mil per next year?

    Lar November 15, 2006, 12:00 pm
  • I agree, Sam, that it shows where Boras is heading with his initial demand, but I think they’ll settle down to a 4/48M deal. I also agree that the huge bid does weaken the Sox’ bargaining power — it at least has the appearance of being desperate. Nevertheless, they’re the only team, and Matsuzaka has said many times he wants to play in the States NOW, so Boras also is not dealing from a position of strength. I’m sure it’ll be odd for both sides.

    Paul SF November 15, 2006, 12:00 pm
  • I wasn’t assuming it’d put them in a bind, Brad. I’m one of those (like YF) who thinks that the Sox have far more money than they let on. I’m just saying that it strikes me that Boras is in the driving seat here, and that’s a seat I’d hate to see him in if I’m Theo.
    But the JD Drew issue is a good point. Boras does go easy on teams who sign more than one of his players, doesn’t he?

    Sam November 15, 2006, 12:00 pm
  • There are so many ways to view Boras’s leverage or lack of leverage here, I haven’t really decided where I fall yet.
    Interesting though to note, Boras is trying to plant his flag in Japan with this as much as the Red Sox are, so it’s in his best interest to get a deal done.
    I don’t see any scenario where a deal doesn’t get done, because it would have tragic results for both Boras and the Sox.
    I imagine a middle of the road contract, with the Boras caving on salary in favor of a shorter term.

    LocklandSF November 15, 2006, 12:00 pm
  • Also, Boras is more than aware that the Red Sox have every leverage point here. If he wants him signed this year, which really isn’t all that important I guess (for him anyhow), sending him back to Japan for a year to pitch there not only introduces the serious possibility of injury to him, but his stock will never be higher than it is right now. Next year, the real possibility exists that the kid get’s one big deal, and then a small one. By signing him this year, he’s almost guaranteed to get two big contracts during his MLB career. One now, and another in three or four years.
    Of course that’s all predicated on good pitching, but why take that chance if you’re Boras?
    The Red Sox have absolutely nothing to lose here provided they do everything on the level, and Boras knows it.

    Brad November 15, 2006, 12:01 pm
  • Sorry, caving on total dollar value in favor of a shorter term.

    LocklandSF November 15, 2006, 12:03 pm
  • I was thinking it’ll either be a 3/36 or a 4/56 ish. As for injuries and stuff, I don’t think Boras care, since he made Drew (coincidentally) sit out a year just to get a higher bonus. It’s a bit outrageous..

    Lar November 15, 2006, 12:29 pm
  • I think more like 3/42 or 4/60, Lar.
    Chaps, view this as you want, but Boras is an animal and will get top dollar. The deal will get done, but it may make Mr Henry’s eyes water when before its over. However you spin it, it’s going to be about $100m for 3-4 years worth of pitching.

    Sam November 15, 2006, 12:47 pm
  • What can or can’t the Yankees do? If the Yankees “offer” 4/80, but obviously making DM sit out a year, would Boras consider that?
    That would be interesting. In a really evil kind of way, but..

    Lar November 15, 2006, 12:51 pm
  • Strictly speaking, Boras can not talk to any other team regarding Matsuzaka, nor can any team approach him. Doesn’t matter. This deal has to get done. The Sox know it, Boras knows it, and the Seibu Lions know it.
    Schilling made $13M in 2006. Just guessing here, but I can’t see Boston wanting to go too far above that number. Continuing my hackneyed WAGs, that pit-bull, Boras, will make sure Matsuzaka is protected in the deal with a limited or full no-trade clause and easily-obtained incentives that will boost the actual payout of the contract. The trade clause will likely be the stickiest point of the negotiations, not the dollars involved, and has the potential to be the bugaboo down the road if Matsuzaka doesn’t work out, but I think he will, much to my chagrin. Regarding DM’s money, he will rake in royalties and endorsements that will far outweigh the money the Sox pay him.

    attackgerbil November 15, 2006, 1:47 pm

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