In Wake’s Wake

Zink

It is confirmed, the Sox will start a knuckleballer in place of a knuckleballer tomorrow.  We’d prefer Michael Bowden, but at the very least this should be an interesting debut.  We’ll keep our expectations low, particularly against the Rangers.

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  • Bowden isn’t ready. Zink was the right call, especially because it’s about time to see if his success this year translates.

    Ben (YF) August 11, 2008, 6:42 pm
  • Well, this certainly makes tonight a Must Win.

    stuck working August 11, 2008, 6:52 pm
  • Zink deserves it. Good for him!
    Let’s go ahead and call this the gamer for tonight… I won’t say this is a must-win, but the Sox really need this game, I think.

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 8:10 pm
  • Nobody’s reached base after an inning.

    Devine August 11, 2008, 8:22 pm
  • I hear Harrelson’s voice and my brain shuts down in self-defense.
    Lowell swings ugly for strike 3. Clearly frustrated.

    Devine August 11, 2008, 8:27 pm
  • PS Batting Mike Lowell in the cleanup spot is pig-headedly wrong.

    Devine August 11, 2008, 8:28 pm
  • This is the strangest lineup I’ve seen yet for the Sox. Is Ortiz okay?

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 8:34 pm
  • PS Batting Mike Lowell in the cleanup spot is pig-headedly wrong.
    It’s like Tito saw the gamers from the last few days where we were screaming “Don’t bat Lowell 5th!” so he said “Okay okay, I’ll bat him 4th.”

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 8:35 pm
  • Beckett strikes out the corpse of Ken Griffey Jr. after a 2-out double to end the inning.

    Devine August 11, 2008, 8:38 pm
  • Speaking of corpses, Varitek is up.
    He grounds to 2nd.

    Devine August 11, 2008, 8:43 pm
  • I too would like an explanation of Papi’s absence. I mean, Coco and Ellsbury hitting back-to-back right after Tek makes me feel queasy.

    stuck working August 11, 2008, 8:45 pm
  • Wow Bay with a poor play there.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 8:48 pm
  • Did he get a late break, Ath? Looked okay at the end, just couldn’t get to the ball and trapped it.

    Devine August 11, 2008, 8:49 pm
  • Back to back singles to start the inning for the bad Sox. I’m getting off work, see y’all later.

    Devine August 11, 2008, 8:52 pm
  • Sigh, fly out to Coco and Coco throws it into 2nd base. Runner goes to 3rd.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 8:52 pm
  • AJ up, hits a sac fly to give Chicago a 1-0 lead. More Beckett troubles once a runner gets on base… *sigh*

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 8:54 pm
  • I couldn’t tell, Devine.
    Sac-fly, Harrelson creaming his pants.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 8:54 pm
  • Another dilemma series for the Sox, as the Yanks play the Twins. I guess if the Sox beat the Sox, then the Twins winning is good because they cement their hold on first and the Sox only have to worry about the one AL Central team instead of both…

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 8:56 pm
  • Yeah yeah, lineups don’t matter, but can anyone seriously tell me that Crisp-Pedroia-Youkilis-Lowell-Bay-Drew is going to score more runs than Drew-Pedroia-Youkilis-Bay-Lowell-Lowrie?

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 8:59 pm
  • Hey, Evan Longoria to the DL with a fractured wrist! I feel bad for cheering a young player’s injury, but this–paired with Crawford going to the DL–is good news for the Sox.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 8:59 pm
  • Don’t overthink it, Paul: just root for the Red Sox and against the Yankees. We can worry about everything else in September.

    stuck working August 11, 2008, 8:59 pm
  • Seriously, why is Ortiz absent from the lineup?

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 9:00 pm
  • Crisp up 3-1, predictably strikes out on a pitch too close to take with two strikes.

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:01 pm
  • Globe says they don’t know why he’s not in there. Danks is a lefty, so maybe it’s scheduled in the middle of a long stretch without an off day?

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:02 pm
  • Sox not getting much off Danks tonight…

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:03 pm
  • Heh, just checked and the Sox have literally gotten NOTHING off Danks tonight… I repeat… NOTHING…
    NO HITS… no walks.
    Jinxy enough?

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:04 pm
  • I myself am hoping for a 22 inning pitcher’s duel between Min and NY so that both teams are exhausted and can’t recover for weeks.

    soxgirl August 11, 2008, 9:05 pm
  • Wow, didn’t notice the PERFECT GAME that Danks has going.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 9:05 pm
  • Herald says Ortiz has the night off with “slight soreness” in his wrist.

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:05 pm
  • Well, SoxGirl, you might be out of luck. The Pads and Rockies went 22 innings already this year, and that was the first game of that length or longer since 1993. The Red Sox haven’t had a game longer than 20 innings in the Retrosheet era (8-7 loss to Seattle in 1981). The Yankees have had a 22-inning game, losing to Detroit 9-7 in 1962. The Twins were the winners of that 1993 game, beating the Indians 5-4.
    Beckett throwing a great game. Needs some runs people!

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:12 pm
  • *perfect game perfect game perfect game*

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 9:15 pm
  • Lowrie strikes out and there goes the Sox’s best chance of getting on base this inning.

    stuck working August 11, 2008, 9:27 pm
  • Wow, Danks loses the perfecto by hitting Ellsbury with two outs in the sixth.

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:29 pm
  • Now for Coco to end the no-no…

    stuck working August 11, 2008, 9:30 pm
  • Now for Coco to end the no-no…
    Hoping Coco will get a hit is like hoping Francona will put together a lineup that makes sense.

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:32 pm
  • I guess pinning my hopes of the euphonious parallels of Coco/No-no was too much.

    stuck working August 11, 2008, 9:33 pm
  • Batting Coco leadoff is perhaps one of Tito’s most unjustifiable moves of the year.

    SF August 11, 2008, 9:34 pm
  • Think about this for a second:
    The Red Sox’ leadoff hitter tonight — the man on whom the team is relying most to get on base, the man whose sole job is to reach base — has a .304 on-base percentage, the worst on the team. The Worst. On the. Team…

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:34 pm
  • I don’t get this, Coco batting leadoff. I mean, Tito could have thrown a dart at a board and had an easier time legitimizing his decision.

    SF August 11, 2008, 9:36 pm
  • Paul, I had to check to see if Coco’s OBP was worse than Tek’s (and it is, by a whisker). Hard to believe anyone gets on base less than him.

    stuck working August 11, 2008, 9:37 pm
  • Man. Beckett is on tonight, strikes out Quentin for the third time, his seventh overall K of the game.

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:37 pm
  • Evan Longoria has a fractured wrist.

    SF August 11, 2008, 9:40 pm
  • The only consolation for the Red Sox when it comes to Coco Crisp — well, actually, there’s several:
    1. He’s better than Jeremy Reed (the Sox’ other big option, according to reports, after Damon left).
    2. He only cost Andy Marte and Guillermo Mota.
    3. He didn’t keep the Red Sox from winning the World Series last year.
    Otherwise, he’s a speedster who can’t use his speed because he never gets on base or hits the ball well enough to create a hit, whose offense is so pathetic he’s still worse than the guy five years older than him who has a much more physically taxing job on defense, and apparently who is still good enough in the mind of Terry Francona to lead off a key game against a pennant race rival. Fannntastic.

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:42 pm
  • Ok, Paul, how do I find out how many times the Sox have failed to get a hit past the third or fourth inning of games this year? For some reason this seems like about the fourth or fifth time that an opposing pitcher has carried a no-no past the fourth inning against the team this year. For such a good-hitting squad, the Sox’ bats sure seem to die en masse.

    SF August 11, 2008, 9:42 pm
  • damn you laser boy.

    sf rod August 11, 2008, 9:43 pm
  • Youkilis breaks up the no-no!

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:43 pm
  • Youk breaks up the no-hitter!

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 9:44 pm
  • who is still good enough in the mind of Terry Francona to lead off a key game against a pennant race rival
    Did Theo Epstein go f*cking nuts when he saw the lineup card or what? I don’t even want to hear Tito’s explanation after the game, if there is one, I don’t want to lose any respect for the guy. There’s no conceivable answer he could give that would make me feel at all better about this decision. I don’t care what Bill James says about lineup construction, either, at least not for the moment.

    SF August 11, 2008, 9:44 pm
  • So sad, we get excited when we break up no-hitters. Scary to say right now, but we are only a couple of losses away from being a bunch of Yankee fans…

    SF August 11, 2008, 9:45 pm
  • cheering for a no-no break up. a new low repeated several times this year.
    thanks youk.

    sf rod August 11, 2008, 9:45 pm
  • DREW GIVES THE SOX THE LEAD!!!!

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:49 pm
  • JD!!!!

    SF August 11, 2008, 9:50 pm
  • RED SOX TAKE THE LEAD!

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 9:50 pm
  • People visiting the site tomorrow are going to wonder why the Charlie Zink thread has like 100 comments.

    SF August 11, 2008, 9:51 pm
  • Shouldn’t the rule of thumb just be “walk they guy in front of Tek”?

    SF August 11, 2008, 9:54 pm
  • Other than running the Retrosheet raw data into a program that would allow me to parse it (I have no idea how to do this), I don’t see anything readily available for you, SF. The Sox have been one-hit once and two-hit four times. They’ve been held to no more than four hits eight times.
    For two-hitters, the Sox have tied their all-time low since 1956, set by the 1978 club, which also was two-hit (or worse) five times. For four-hitters, though, the Sox aren’t that bad off, with eight (and presumably counting). The record is 21 (1974), and the Sox were four-hit (or worse) 12 times in 2005 and 11 times each in 2006 and 2007.

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:54 pm
  • Hearing the sadness and disappointment in Harrelson’s voice just made my day.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 9:54 pm
  • Thanks, Paul. The Lackey start was fresh in my brain, so that’s twice in two weeks the Sox were no-hit past the fifth inning.

    SF August 11, 2008, 9:55 pm
  • Freakin’ A, Varitek is really more burnt than toast. We need a new food.

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:55 pm
  • Tek whiffs. Shocker.

    SF August 11, 2008, 9:56 pm
  • Would like some more runs to make this long inning pay off… but Varitek is not going to cooperate, duh.
    Come on, Beckett, mow ’em down!

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:56 pm
  • Who is less productive right now, Jason Varitek or Jorge Posada?

    SF August 11, 2008, 9:56 pm
  • Swimming on in 13 minutes. If the Sox still have a one-run lead though, I might have to miss Phelps’ attempt for his third gold…

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:57 pm
  • Varitek. Posada at least is not wasting the lineup spot.

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 9:58 pm
  • i almost miss doug mirabelli.

    sf rod August 11, 2008, 10:00 pm
  • I think someone should replace Tek’s bat with a whiffle bat. This could be the only way he could get around on major league heat.

    SF August 11, 2008, 10:01 pm
  • How’s the baby sleeping, Paul?

    SF August 11, 2008, 10:02 pm
  • Beckett allows a 2-out hit. Come on, get the final out here. Harrelson is practically begging the White Sox to come back.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:03 pm
  • Beckett doesn’t seem to be throwing as many strikes this inning. Maybe not as sharp with the long top of the seventh…

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 10:04 pm
  • Harrelson is a “starts with a ‘d’ and ends with an ‘ouche'”. I hate listening to him.

    SF August 11, 2008, 10:05 pm
  • Ok, there’s the K. Nice, Beckett.

    SF August 11, 2008, 10:06 pm
  • Ugh, SF. She sleeps great — during the day. Wide awake from about midnight through 5 a.m. :-P

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 10:06 pm
  • Insurance, bats!

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 10:06 pm
  • So do you leave Beckett out there for the 8th, on a short leash? I think you have to with his pitch count at 89.
    Hell, I don’t think Beckett will let Tito take him out.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:07 pm
  • Hehe, Gameday’s video section shows “Youkilis breaks up a perfect game” even though the perfect game was lost an inning earlier when Ellsbury was HBP.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:09 pm
  • Keep Beckett out there. Seems like he could go all nine, and why not?

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 10:10 pm
  • I Believe In Harvey Dent–errr, Jacoby Ellsbury. Silly little blooper gives Ellsbury a single, he almost made it to 2nd.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:12 pm
  • Hey, Coco did his job!

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:12 pm
  • I don’t understand Gameday’s description of what just happened.
    “Ellsbury singles on a popup to Orlando Cabrera, deflected by Juan Uribe”
    Uh, what? Did they collide?

    SF August 11, 2008, 10:13 pm
  • Good move, having Crisp sacrifice Ellsbury to second. Puts the runner in scoring position for Pedroia, who we might not need remind you sold his soul for a hit in every game away from Fenway Park in the second half. This is his time…

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 10:13 pm
  • Yikes, Paul! She can watch the olympics live, though!

    SF August 11, 2008, 10:14 pm
  • Phelps warming up. He only got the Bronze in this event in 2004.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:14 pm
  • SF, there was a pop-up to left field, the 3B almost had it but went off his glove. Then Cabrera picked it up and fired to first.
    Here goes Phelps!

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:16 pm
  • Holy god Phelps gaining a huge lead already.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:17 pm
  • Phelps has a 2-body lead. Incredible.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:17 pm
  • Holy jesus Phelps DESTROYS the world record by almost a full second. 3 down, 5 to go!

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:18 pm
  • Nice swim by Phelps. Boy does he ever make it look easy… Vanderkaay did a good job too.

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 10:22 pm
  • Smokeshow. Phelps is unbelievable. And he has the 200 fly semis tonight, still. Amazing.

    SF August 11, 2008, 10:23 pm
  • Nothing tops the 4×100 relays though. I’m still in awe of that race.
    How were your kiddos, SF? Night sleepers, or did they keep you up a while?

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 10:24 pm
  • Argh, Beckett hits Quentin. Not what you want to do with the one-run lead.

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 10:24 pm
  • HAha Beckett giving Quentin a little chin music. Not sure why I’m happy to see it, maybe because I like hearing Harrelson whine.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:25 pm
  • Two more women’s medals!

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:26 pm
  • Harrelson complaining about the strikezone. Earlier he said that Cabrera’s line-drive was fair because he saw white chalk fly.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:27 pm
  • Pretty standard sleepers for the first few months, started with two/three hours, moved to four/five, then were sleeping through the night around four or five months. We found a routine was very important. Bath, bottle, bed, same time every night. Still do it with our daughter (19 months), our son is off the “bath every night” thing, it’s hard on the skin, dries it out.

    SF August 11, 2008, 10:28 pm
  • Pop-up, side retired. Papelbon will be in for the 9th.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:28 pm
  • yanks lose / twins win….who knows anymore.

    sf rod August 11, 2008, 10:29 pm
  • AMERICAN WINS THE BACKSTROKE! ANOTHER WORLD RECORD!
    And we won the silver too!

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:32 pm
  • Yeah, we’re not really routine people. That might be our next experiment. Maybe it’ll help :-P

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 10:32 pm
  • Wow, there was a tie for the Bronze medal there. Didn’t know that could happen.
    New pitcher in for the White Sox.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:34 pm
  • Drew with a little hit between 1st and 2nd, beats it out for an infield single. Bases loaded with no outs, chance for Lowrie to add to his already incredible RBI total.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:39 pm
  • Lowrie with a bases-clearing double! Drew is thrown out at home though.
    4-1 Red Sox.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:41 pm
  • Jed!

    SF August 11, 2008, 10:41 pm
  • Drew seems to be faving something in the dugout after being thrown out at home.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 11, 2008, 10:42 pm
  • WS TV announcers bitching non stop about the strike zone.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 11, 2008, 10:43 pm
  • It’s amazing that Phelps has just tied the record for gold medals, and he still has 5 more heats to compete in. Not to mention the 2012 olympics, which he says he will compete in and then retire.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:44 pm
  • Just got home from a trip to the Iowa State Fair. If you’ve never been, go.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 11, 2008, 10:45 pm
  • Hey, SF, the wife wants to know at how old did you start that routine?

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 10:45 pm
  • Yeah Bill, Harrelson has been complaining about it all game. It was fantastic hearing his silence after Youk broke up the no-no though.
    Base-hit makes it 5-1, Papelbon no longer needed. Send Beckett (104 pitches) out for the complete game?

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:46 pm
  • Ja-CO-By!!!

    I'mBillMcNeal August 11, 2008, 10:46 pm
  • Harrelson might be the biggest homer out there, worse than Sterling.
    That foul liner by O-Cab was clearly foul, and Hawk and DJ were trying to rationalize its fairness. Horrible.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 11, 2008, 10:47 pm
  • IBM: figures about Drew. Fragile sucker.
    Ellsbury seems like he might really be coming on again, at least.

    stuck working August 11, 2008, 10:47 pm
  • No. We need Beck.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 11, 2008, 10:48 pm
  • Yeah Bill, Harrelson kept talking about the white chalk he saw fly. Simply pathetic.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:48 pm
  • There’s an American girl (Rebecca Soni) wearing big shiny earings. What the hell? You go to all that effort to make yourself aerodynamic and you still wear earrings?

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:50 pm
  • Papelbon coming in anyways.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:50 pm
  • To quote Harrelson, “He gone.”

    I'mBillMcNeal August 11, 2008, 10:55 pm
  • I like the Alexei Ramirez. Defector. He’s a nice player.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 11, 2008, 10:56 pm
  • Should be noted that the Sox took the extra base on Griffey and his decrepit arm at least twice tonight, both of which led to runs, if I remember correctly.

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 10:56 pm
  • asap, Paul. “Bedtime” at the beginning meant whatever bath was closest to 630 or 7pm.

    SF August 11, 2008, 10:56 pm
  • Harrelson: “3-0 count, Alexei will be looking dead fastball and it won’t fool him this time”
    (ALexei watches a fastball go right down the middle)
    Harrelson: “3-1 now, this is where Alexei does best. He has his timing right, he should crank this one”
    (Alexei fouls a pitch off)
    Harrelson: “Full count now, don’t do too much Alexei.”
    (Alexei pops out)
    Harrelson: “Great at bat by Alexei, he really made Papelbon work.”

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 10:58 pm
  • Game. That’s a good win.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 11, 2008, 10:59 pm
  • Ballgame! Big win for the Sox, and a nice one!
    Great game by Beckett, and the offense got just enough against a pitcher on his A-game and feasted on the bullpen — that’s a great combo, reminiscent of last year’s postseason…

    Paul SF August 11, 2008, 10:59 pm
  • I still like Alexei. Screw Hawk. He’s been lost since nehru went out of style.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 11, 2008, 11:00 pm
  • Nice win.

    SF August 11, 2008, 11:00 pm
  • Ballgame, Sox win. On Zink:
    He knew he could throw a knuckleball and one day told his trainer in Low-A Augusta. The trainer didn’t believe him and said throw one as the pair was playing catch. Zink unleashed one, the trainer missed it and cut his eye wide open.
    Funny story.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 11:01 pm
  • Night.

    I'mBillMcNeal August 11, 2008, 11:03 pm
  • Phelps goes for the butterfly meal. Out to an early lead, though not by much.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 11:10 pm
  • Meant medal, not meal. D’oh.
    Phelps falls back for half the race, but is now making a huge push in the last stretch. He pulls away easily in the last 50M, and it’s not even close. He raced 49 minutes ago, and he still wins easily.

    Atheose August 11, 2008, 11:13 pm
  • One of the more satisfying games I can remember in some time. Unfortunately I didn’t see Drew’s double (got home just in time to catch the score as 2-1 with Drew on second), but Lowrie’s double was deeply satisfying. The last time I remember being so palpably relieved by a base hit was Pedroia’s base-clearing two-bagger in Game 7 ALCS last year.

    Devine August 12, 2008, 11:14 am
  • is it just me, or has Lowrie had more than normal share of bases loaded opportunities in his short career (he’s like 4 for 8).

    dw (sf) August 12, 2008, 1:59 pm

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