Joe on the Line: Sox-Yanks Gamer VI

For all the desperation in Yankeeland, the team throws its ace to the hill this afternoon in a bid to take the rubber game with arch-foe Boston. Chien-Ming Wang is 0-1 with a 5.68 era, but those numbers are a bit of a distortion on what was a quality first appearance last Tuesday in Tampa, at least until the beleaguered bullpen got hold of it. He faces Julian Tavarez, the decidedly weak link in the Sox rotation, at 0-2, 8.36. A win today might well settle things in the Bronx. A loss could lead to ugliness. Rationally, a single game in April should not bear so much weight given a 162 game season that ends rougly half a year from now. That’s the way it goes in NY. Comment on today’s action right here. Lineups after the jump.

Bos
Lugo SS
Youkilis 1B
Ortiz DH
Ramirez LF
Hinske RF
Lowell 3B
Varitek C
Crisp CF
Cora 2B

NY
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi DH
Matsui LF
Posada C
Cano 2B
Mienkiewicz 1B

246 comments… add one

  • I think the Yanks will be fine once A-Rod works up the courage and nerve to ask his teammates if they could please, possibly, if it’s OK with them, start hitting some home runs.

    yankeesnj April 29, 2007, 12:54 pm
  • Let’s not underestimate the importance of this game from a RS perspective.
    The last thing they want to do is give NYY momentum.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 1:04 pm
  • Stupid media hype has me thinking this is a must-win. I have to settle back and realize that if you had told me before the series that the Sox would take 1 of 3, I’d have been happy. That said, sure would be nice to win it.
    This is definitely a much more necessary win to have from the Yankess’ perspective than the Red Sox’.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 1:07 pm
  • Great. Minky again. what gives?

    sam YF April 29, 2007, 1:09 pm
  • Want the glove with Wang out there, I think.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:11 pm
  • K on the sinker on the outside. A k for Wang! Take that Brad! (Kidding!!!)

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:13 pm
  • Wow, Lugo down on three pitches. So Wang’s reached his K quota for the day…

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 1:13 pm
  • Wang throwing strikes but kind of up in the zone a bit.
    Youk drives one deeeeep to left. Matsui makes it an adventure.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:14 pm
  • GameDay already crapping out two batters into the game… Fantastic.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 1:15 pm
  • Saw that coming. Ortiz puts one out toward Westchester.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:15 pm
  • PAPI! Home run on the first pitch! Awesome!

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 1:16 pm
  • As per usual, Ortiz has NO reason to fear being plunked, so he sits on a sinker that doesn’t sink. Jeez. Two long flies in a row, not a good sign for CM.

    yankeesnj April 29, 2007, 1:17 pm
  • Hinske giving Drew his standard day off, I just noticed. Maybe good since Drew’s been slumping pretty badly of late…
    Manny’s struggles continue. :-P

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 1:19 pm
  • Grounder up the middle for Manny, knocked and snared by Wang, 1-3.
    Not unusual to see him up in the zone early, only to settle in as the game wears on. Hope that happens here.
    Sox staked to the 1-0 lead. Our turn.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:19 pm
  • NJ, do you think Ortiz would fear being plunked even if Wang or the Yankees pitched him inside? He wears the armor for a reason. And I imagine you do not get to where he is without learning to be unafraid of the occasional inside pitch…

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 1:21 pm
  • Damon comebacker on 2-2, an easy out 1-3.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:21 pm
  • Tavarez doing his best Wang impersonation as Damon grounds out 1-3.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 1:23 pm
  • Jeter smokes the 3-2 to Manny. 2 down. Nice AB, tho.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:24 pm
  • Good job by Tavarez I thought in getting back to two strikes after what appeared (on GameDay) to be two or three borderline ball calls.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 1:25 pm
  • Abreu with another comeback (that’s 3 for the game, out of 6 outs), and Tavarez underhands a raINBow to Ortiz. What the heck was that?!

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:26 pm
  • Abreu makes the final out of the first. Good to hold the Yanks down and let the Sox get right back up and try for some insurance — they’ll need it!
    Tavarez throwing strikes though,. Hopefully he doesn’t forget to use one of his pitches halfway through the game…
    Lunchtime. Might be back later this afternoon…

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 1:27 pm
  • Would YES please stop showing Karstens having his leg broken? It’s like Theisman all over again. Gross. I don’t need to relive it. And now a pic out of Gray’s Anatomy. Enough!
    Meanwhile, Hinske down 4-3. Typical Wang.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:28 pm
  • Wow. Hinske almost nailed Wang with the bat-head.
    Can we maybe consider not swinging at the first or second pitch of the ab? Just a thought…

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 1:30 pm
  • Lowell 5-3. Wang.
    Michael Kay talking here with Leiter about Al’s injury problems. Kind of funny how how Leiter gets the kid glove treatment after his fine career, but no one makes a comparison to Pavano.
    Tek with another grounder. Classic Wang inning, 1-2-3, all on the ground.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:30 pm
  • Guess not. 3 outs on 7 pitches. Great f*cking approach.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 1:31 pm
  • honestly, how long till the booing starts.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 1:35 pm
  • Alex grounder to 2nd. Looks like we’re going to have to wait (how long?) for him to heat up again.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:36 pm
  • Giambi grounder to 2nd/right. 2 down.
    Lots of grounders!

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:37 pm
  • Cora earning his paycheck today

    Rob April 29, 2007, 1:39 pm
  • Cripes. Matsui swings at one up in his eyes, grounds out.
    Jeter with the only really decent contact so far.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:39 pm
  • 5 ground balls for julian. he’s been more like wang than wang has been.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 1:39 pm
  • At this rate, this thing is going to be over by 2:30.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:41 pm
  • the patron saint of sugary cereals triples to lead off the inning.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 1:42 pm
  • Crisp triple into the right-center gap. This after he got a break on a pitch right over the middle. No complaining about the umping for him today.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:43 pm
  • COCO CRISP!!!!
    That didn’t look like too bad a pitch, was real down. But it was also in and he golfed it perfectly. Great swing, lets make this a 2 run game.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 1:43 pm
  • Can always count on Cora for a situational groundout. Minky saves Jeter another throwing error.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 1:44 pm
  • Cora weak grounder to short scores the run. 2-0. Nice tag from Minky.
    Lugo flips a single to center.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:44 pm
  • J-Lu clearly has disrupted CMW.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 1:47 pm
  • and the first audible “let’s go red sox” chants from the stadium today.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 1:48 pm
  • YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKS!

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 1:49 pm
  • Youk singles, Lugo to third on Damon.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:49 pm
  • Youk rips a single up the middle, Lugo knows his grandma has a better shot of throwing him out and takes 3rd. (Still a close play)
    Good baserunning.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 1:49 pm
  • Wow. Absolutely HORRIBLE f*cking baserunning. Boston has Wang on the ropes and COMPLETELY f*cks it up. Unbelievable.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 1:50 pm
  • DP!!!! 2-3-1. Great play all around on the nubber from Ortiz.
    Ortiz hits one as far as you can, and then as short as humanly possible. That averages into, what?, a fly to short right?

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:51 pm
  • With the way Manny has been hitting I would IBB Papi.

    Rob April 29, 2007, 1:51 pm
  • Crap.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 1:51 pm
  • Real nice play by Wang to make the tag on the back foot off a high throw from Minky.

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:53 pm
  • J-Lu got cocky. Knucklehead.
    YF, how about a high pop fly to deep short? A REALLY high pop.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 1:53 pm
  • liter called johnny’s arm adequat. ummmm….that ball was 15 feet out of the infield and damon had it in his glove by the time lugo hit second. maybe in liter world adequate means pathetic.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 1:53 pm
  • Jorge! A baserunner!

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:55 pm
  • Can always count on Tavarez to start sucking the minute he’s handed a lead. (Or a slightly bigger lead…)

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 1:55 pm
  • Nobody ever accused NYY broadcasters of being objective.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 1:55 pm
  • Has Posada 0-2 and walks him by nibbling on the edge of the strike zone

    Rob April 29, 2007, 1:56 pm
  • sf: clearly leiter knows damon has a weak arm; i think he made that clear; as a former player/teammate, he was being generous to the guy. give him a break.
    another walk. let’s go yanks!

    YF April 29, 2007, 1:57 pm
  • Tavarez has completely lost the strike zone. I can’t f*cking understand how you can be as good as he was in the first two innings, and then just forget how to throw strikes. At all. Like he’s not even coming close; Minky should just stand there with the bat in one hand and watch the next 5 pitches.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 1:58 pm
  • Tavarez won’t take the free out from MInky, passed ball advances the runners. 2-0 for Minky,

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:00 pm
  • julian is having an adequate inning.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 2:00 pm
  • There’s a strike.

    SeanJ April 29, 2007, 2:02 pm
  • adequate as in Leiter’s assessment of Damon’s arm?

    Rob April 29, 2007, 2:02 pm
  • MINKY MINKY MINKY. 3-run shot just clears the rf wall.
    Tavarez has no one to blame but himself.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:02 pm
  • You have to be kidding me…Minky hits a homer? How big a meatball did Tavarez throw?

    Rob April 29, 2007, 2:03 pm
  • Slumpbuster for Minky hopefully. That homer was nice.

    bloodyank78 April 29, 2007, 2:03 pm
  • Arguably the worst hitter in the American League hits a 3-run shot. This is why it’s never a good idea to be optimistic about anything involving Julian Tavarez.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:03 pm
  • Damon drills one to center.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:03 pm
  • 3 runs on 1 hit…Someone please move the water cooler or wall before he hits it in between innings.

    Rob April 29, 2007, 2:04 pm
  • “How big a meatball did Tavarez throw?”
    Big. Low, in, and at the knees on a lefty. Couldn’t have been a fatter pitch.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:04 pm
  • jeter Ks.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:05 pm
  • Thanks D1..stuck watching on CBS Sportsline

    Rob April 29, 2007, 2:06 pm
  • memo to tito: snyder gives us a chance to win…julian doesn’t.
    leiter is hilarious. anybody else hear him mutter “good job” as doug and giambi hugged in the dugout? just odd.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 2:08 pm
  • Abreu flies to Manny. 1 hit, but a big one, and the Yanks net 3 after 2 walks, a pb, and a failure to induce a bunt. To give up runs is frustratring. To give away runs is REALLY frustrating.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:08 pm
  • Manny with a single to lead off the 4th.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:09 pm
  • Manny manages a single….amazing

    Rob April 29, 2007, 2:10 pm
  • Hinske DP ball. Nice play by Robi to go 4-3, and then Minky runs down Manny for out 2.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:11 pm
  • Lowell 4-pitch walk. Got a few borderline calls there.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:13 pm
  • Tek ends it with a lazy shallow fly to left. Wang under 50 pitches through 4.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:14 pm
  • Jon Lester will take Tavarez spot in the rotation friday night.

    TJ April 29, 2007, 2:15 pm
  • From CBS Sportsline:
    “Hinske grounded into triple play second to first, Ramirez out at second”
    Did I miss something?

    Rob April 29, 2007, 2:16 pm
  • Varitek pops up a fat, belt high something…ugh. Wang has been inconsistant and they should have scored more than 2 fricken runs.
    And then Tavarez gets a groundball but it slips through for a single.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:17 pm
  • Alex cracks one up the middle. Where was Lugo on that? Complain about Jeter’s range all you want, but that ball should have been caught.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:18 pm
  • lugo should have had that.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 2:18 pm
  • And Giambi follows with a ripped single to right. That was legit. Yanks with 1st and 2nd, none out again.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:19 pm
  • He was shaded towards third and the ball stayed down. Lugo could have had that, but I don’t think it’s a “should” have play.
    And Lugo’s play has no bearing on whether or not I can criticize Jeter’s range. Crappy range is crappy range. :-)

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:20 pm
  • Gameday died.
    Great play by Lugo to finish the DP, handling a low ball from Pedroia and making a strong throw to nail Matsui.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:23 pm
  • Matsui hits into the 4-6-3. Wonder if he should have tried the drag bunt down third with Lowell so deep.
    Yanks had a shot to really do some damage, now it would be good to just get one.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:23 pm
  • Jorge Ks. That was awfully disappointing. Need to cash in situations like that. Gotta figure it’s gonna come back to haunt…..

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:25 pm
  • Gamecenter reporting another triple play….I think they are hoping for one today.

    Rob April 29, 2007, 2:25 pm
  • Kay is SO upset about that call at first…one that could well have gone either way, but which looked right to me.
    Wouldn’t worry too much YF…Wang’s at 50 pitches through 4. If he’s really settled down, the pen gets a major rest. No Mo today, though. And I’m sure they’ll have more opportunities off Tavarez next inning.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:26 pm
  • Did I say 50? I meant 43, apparently. Eesh…on pace for a CG…
    Though hitting the leadoff guy’s not really a good move. Wang FEARS the hot Crisp.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:28 pm
  • “little alex cora”….thanks kay….you ass.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 2:31 pm
  • Cora homer? Did that actually just happen? Whaaa?

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:31 pm
  • Wow. Holy hell. I uh…I still like Pedroia and want him to get a season’s worth of ab’s.
    But I also really like Alex Cora right now. And good baserunning by Crisp, who knew right away that even if it stayed in the yard, neither OF had a shot at it.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:32 pm
  • I’m gonna take credit for that Cora home run. I started watching on GameCast just as he came to bat, so clearly that was all me.
    I can’t believe Tavarez, pitching a surprisingly good game, got beat by Doug Freakin’ Mientkewicz.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 2:32 pm
  • Lugo out 5-3. Nice play by Alex on a tough hop.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:33 pm
  • So…Alex Cora has a 2 run shot, and Doug Mishdjfhsdf has a 3-run dinger. In the same game. That has to be just a little more likely then a 4-walk game from Wily Mo Pena.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:33 pm
  • alex cora is 6″, 200 lbs……little derek jeter.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 2:34 pm
  • Good job by Youk working the walk. I’d like to see them get Wang’s pitch count up a bit this inning. NO double plays, Papi!!

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 2:36 pm
  • Papi’s now hit into 4 DP’s in 2 games. (One of them wasn’t his fault; should have been an out but not a DP…)
    Not a good series for him, solo shot in the first notwithstanding.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:38 pm
  • So of course, the double play. Blech.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 2:39 pm
  • I think the Pats traded for Randy Moss. Wonder how Captain Morals SF is going to deal with his presence, combined with Papa Brady.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:43 pm
  • Cano looked terrified by that first pitch. Then really pissed off that it was a strike. I’m not predicting a bad season from him, but he still reminds me of a less-defensively-challenged Alfonso Soriano without the power or raw speed on the basepaths. By which I mean, a .300 hitting 2nd baseman with zero plate discipline. Which I suppose is fine for a 2nd baseman…
    Good play by Tavarez. He and Minky looked like they made up…wonder what he was jawing at after.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:44 pm
  • former sock and current cardinal, josh hancock, was killed in a car crash over nite. the cardinal game tonite has been postponed.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 2:44 pm
  • YF…Papa Brady will make him “kiss the ring” and be a bought man

    Rob April 29, 2007, 2:45 pm
  • Very sad thing for the Cards to have to deal with this again

    Rob April 29, 2007, 2:46 pm
  • Come to think of it, the Pats are positively Yankee-esque, circa 2001. The dynasty ends, so out they go shopping for “washed up” all stars. Shoe’s on the other foot now!
    [Joke!]

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:47 pm
  • d1- from what i could tell, youk might have said something to the firstbase ump and doug got worked up about it.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 2:48 pm
  • 4th round pick for Moss? Fantastic fricken pickup. Moss claims he wants to win a championship (same thing Dillon said, a few years back) and that he wanted to play with Brady and Bill. For the Pats to make the trade they must have decided they can manage his personality. And now that he’s got a real QB, he actually has a reason to try…which he never had in Oakland.
    Heh…I think of the Patriots as something of a Moneyball-esque team. Finding value in devalued players (Moss, Harrison to some extent) and drafting extremely well.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:49 pm
  • I am shocked that the Raiders only got a 4th rd choice for Moss…perhaps the most lopsided trade in sports history..wait a minute…who was that heavy set pitcher the Sox traded….

    Rob April 29, 2007, 2:49 pm
  • Nice grab by Abreu to rob Abreu in the rightcenter gap. Manny with a nice drive, but he just doesn’t have Cora’s natural power.

    YF April 29, 2007, 2:50 pm
  • “d1- from what i could tell, youk might have said something to the firstbase ump and doug got worked up about it.”
    Yeah, I think that’s probably right.
    Kay going CRAZY about a decent running catch by Abreu; sorry folks, it was nice, but it was nothing spectacular. And once again, Manny hits the ball hard but comes up empty…I do think that a great deal of his early struggles have been bad luck.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:50 pm
  • kay harping on manny. “they were so sick of manny they put him on waivers. anyone could have had him.” didn’t the yankees also put giambi on irrevocable waivers that year as well?

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 2:51 pm
  • Manny with a nice drive, but he just doesn’t have Cora’s natural power.
    It’s clearly because Manny is not as gritty as Cora, YF. Grit = home run power.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 2:56 pm
  • Tek with a very nice ab, fouling off two tough pitches on the outside corner.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 2:57 pm
  • Wang around 20 pitches for the inning. With 83 on the game, it loks like he may not be in line for the CG anymore…

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 2:57 pm
  • ill lugo ill

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 3:01 pm
  • If Tavarez can get us through one more scoreless inning, I’ll be very happy indeed. Okajima/Timlin/Papelbon in relief?

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:02 pm
  • RE: Moss. Here’s What’s goofy about it. The Pats traded their second first-round pick to SF for SF’s fourth-round pick this year and first-round pick next year. Then they trade THAT fourth-round pick for Moss.
    So what they did was trade a late first-round this year (what the perceive to be a weak draft) for a first-round pick next year that presumably will be much higher than this year, AND they get Randy Moss.
    Absolute freakin’ genius.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:02 pm
  • sigh @ lugo.

    minomni SF April 29, 2007, 3:02 pm
  • Did Okijama pitch yesterday?

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:03 pm
  • Ack! Lugo not making his job any easier… And Okajima comes on now… Let’s hope that bullpen can keep it going one more game…

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:03 pm
  • Hulian leave in linme to get the win. Here’s comes Darkman.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:03 pm
  • Ughhhh…Lugo’s errors always come on the easiest f*cking plays.
    I don’t understand this move. I thought Oki was a setup guy now, I thought this had been well-established as his proper role. I suppose this is the part of the order you want him facing; if he gets through it cleanly and goes two innings, Boston’s set up nicely for the 8th and ninth. But still…I think I’d have let Tavarez face Abreu; he’s been throwing well since a yippy 3rd and was only at 84 pitches.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:04 pm
  • glad that francona didn’t give tavarez any more batters.

    minomni SF April 29, 2007, 3:04 pm
  • The Patriots will win Super Bowl XLII

    TJ April 29, 2007, 3:04 pm
  • No, Okajima and Timlin both did not pitch yesterday. It was Snyder, Romero and Donnelly…

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:04 pm
  • And Moss has agreed to restructure his contract/extension for less a season than he was getting in Oakland.

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:04 pm
  • Abreau batting close to .400 career vs. Tavarez.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:05 pm
  • And Super Bowl XLIII.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:06 pm
  • Abreu keeps making it easy for the Sox by trying and failing to lay down bunts…

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:06 pm
  • i haven’t seen abreu bunt this much since the Allstar Bunting Derby in 03′.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 3:06 pm
  • lol, I hear his bunt just hasn’t been the same since then, Rod.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:08 pm
  • Not sure why Abreu’s bunting there. Comes back to haunt, but that called strike 3 looked like a ball.

    YF April 29, 2007, 3:09 pm
  • Abreu strikes out, so Okajima maintains his ridiculous 10+ K/9 rate.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:09 pm
  • YF, regarding your “Capt. Morals comment. Fair point. I would think that Moss will understand from the start that he needs to keep his attitude in check or he will be gone. BB doesn’t put up with that crap.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:09 pm
  • Is the Abreu bunting phenomenon an Abreu call or a Torre call? If it’s a Torre call, he should be fired just for that.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:10 pm
  • Alex RIPS one past Lugo. On that one he had no shot.

    YF April 29, 2007, 3:10 pm
  • two hits lugo has given a-rod. pokey would have made those plays.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 3:10 pm
  • Regarding Moss…Harrison and Ty Warren weigh in on the “team first” mentality in NE
    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/04/29/player_reaction_to_moss/

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:10 pm
  • A-Rod smokes one past Lugo; I think they’re right, looked like it knuckled a bit.
    I don’t like this…

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:11 pm
  • C’mon Oki, double play here.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:11 pm
  • “two hits lugo has given a-rod. pokey would have made those plays.”
    And then broken a foot and two ribs.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:12 pm
  • Rodney doesn’t mince words w/r to Moss. Gotta love him.
    Stupid Giambi…just flail at a changeup or curve already and sit your ass down.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:14 pm
  • i think oki’s got giambi’s number.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 3:15 pm
  • Man, Okajima OWNS Giambi!

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:15 pm
  • K!

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:15 pm
  • Proctor ready in NYY pen.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:17 pm
  • Bless you Oki…

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:17 pm
  • More stranded runners. Yanks have had their chances in this game.

    YF April 29, 2007, 3:17 pm
  • Does Okajima work another inning with Cano and Minky coming up??

    TJ April 29, 2007, 3:18 pm
  • It’s nice to be right once in a while. :-)
    For someone who seems to be facing 3rd base as he releases the ball, Oki fields his position extremely well. I’d guess he comes back out for the 7th, given that the next 3 guys are LH. Though he did throw 20 pitches this inning, so I’d imagine he’ll be on a short leash.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:18 pm
  • I am Darkman.
    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:18 pm
  • Man, Okajima showing he’s the real deal. He’s been used more against the Yankees, I’d wager, than any other member of the staff, and he’s still setting them down.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:19 pm
  • Proctor to face the heart of the RS order today, Nos. 8-9-1, etc.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:20 pm
  • i will give the YES booth some credit, they did a good job breaking down okajima’s mechanics. that head jerk is crazy. but, of course they’re certain he’ll get figured out real quick.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 3:20 pm
  • That first pitch Crisp hit was actually…pretty close to gone. But the rest of the ab was quite pathetic…
    Giambi’s seen Okajima more then anyone else in the game. He’s 1/4 with a pair of K’s now. Experience doesn’t seem to be helping him a ton.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:22 pm
  • Alex Freakin Cora!!!

    Tyrel SF April 29, 2007, 3:23 pm
  • hmmmm Cora…..

    TJ April 29, 2007, 3:24 pm
  • abreu’s got some real hops.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 3:24 pm
  • Alex Cora: Yankee killer. How is this happening??
    Michael Kay divulging that, despite the fact that he’s a Yankee announcer and NY radio personality, he knows EXACTLY how Francona feels about 2B. In fact, Tito hates Pedroia (he’s afraid of short people) and has a crush on Cora.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:24 pm
  • Alex Cora — best backup infielder in the game.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:25 pm
  • Wow…two triples from the big boys of our lineup today.

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:25 pm
  • still think you gotta go with Pedroia at 2B

    TJ April 29, 2007, 3:26 pm
  • Lugo gets it done. Bottom of the order doing everything right today, and Proctor’s inability to handle Boston continues.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:27 pm
  • SF for Lugo to drive Cora in…nice geting the insurance run.

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:27 pm
  • Efficient run scoring, as Lugo drives Cora home for the two-run cushion. Torre needs to stop using Proctor against the Sox. Clearly he doesn’t fool too many hitters anymore.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:28 pm
  • Did anyone see Alex Gonzalez batting 5th for the Reds the other day??? he’s hitting like .350 for them….bastard

    TJ April 29, 2007, 3:28 pm
  • “little alex cora” has had a pretty big day.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 3:29 pm
  • “still think you gotta go with Pedroia at 2B”
    So do I. So should anyone with any understanding of “sample size” and the struggles of youth. You can’t just bail on a guy who hit the way Pedroia did in the minors in favor of a career .245 backup infielder who’s gotten off to a hot start. I really like Cora, and I’m glad he’s here, but he’s still just an above-average utility infielder.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:30 pm
  • Absolutely. And al anyone need do to see whether Cora should start over any kind of extended period is look at his splits before and after August of last year, when he started playing almost every day. Pedroia’s taking his walks and hitting some line drives. He hasn’t looked nearly as bad to me as Varitek or Crisp, and they’re starting to wake up. Pedroia will do the same…

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:32 pm
  • I think Oki might have Posada’s number a bit, too…0/2, 2 K’s. And in that ab, he never looked like he had a chance.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:34 pm
  • Alex Gonzalez batting 5th again today for the reds has hit his 3rd HR of the season. and is batting .330
    Why couldnt he do this for us last year???

    TJ April 29, 2007, 3:35 pm
  • I hope that Pedroia will get lots of ABs in the next homestand.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:35 pm
  • dan 4 Ks in 2 innings. I love Okajima :D

    TJ April 29, 2007, 3:37 pm
  • Okijama is unreal. This guy may be the one of the most important pieces in the BP.

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:37 pm
  • Bravo, Okajima!
    29 pitches, 20 for strikes, four Ks in two innings. Can’t ask for anything more than that.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:37 pm
  • TJ, he was, um, due.
    Henn to pitch the 8th.
    I’m pitching the 9th.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:37 pm
  • dang**

    TJ April 29, 2007, 3:37 pm
  • with all the top rookies struggling when does the Okajima for ROY campaign start :)

    TJ April 29, 2007, 3:39 pm
  • Darkman! 2 Ks on 9 pitches.
    Is it too early to start the MVP chant?

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:39 pm
  • Pedroia’s still got a very respectable 18.8 LD%, like Paul said. And he still has an absurd BABIP of .188…there are trends, though, and I hope that’s not a product of his size and lack of power.
    Just remember…Gonzalez batted .284/.327/.407 in the first half for us last year, with 5 homers. He hit .207/.252/.379 in the second half. He goes on little hot streaks like this, but they never last more than a month.
    And Oki is…wow. These booth d*cks keep saying the league will figure him out and he’s getting by on his funky delivery…but at the same time, they keep acknowledging his fantastic changeup and curve. If you’re a lefty and you have those two offspeed pitches, 87 mph on your fastball doesn’t matter. His K-Rate might drop as guys see him more often, but he’ll still be a great reliever.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:40 pm
  • Okijama’s ERA is now 0.71

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:40 pm
  • Why couldnt he do this for us last year???
    He did, TJ. Gonzo hit .352 for the month of June and .325 in July. But he also hit .186 in April, .174 in August and .149 in September.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:41 pm
  • Joe C.: “On to pitch for the Yankees, Sean Henn, no relation to the actor.”
    Corny, but … well, it’s corny.
    ….
    Colter Bean recalled today.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:41 pm
  • and the shift giveth back.
    Hello, boys. Late to the party.

    Brad April 29, 2007, 3:42 pm
  • Please Manny…you are like so due

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:42 pm
  • Maybe ManRam could not hit the ball directly at someone this time?

    Anonymous April 29, 2007, 3:43 pm
  • he was so so bad in long stretches it just seems like he sucked all the time lol

    TJ April 29, 2007, 3:43 pm
  • YES…MANNY!!!!!

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:44 pm
  • against ortiz, does using henn over myers say more about henn or more about myers?

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 3:44 pm
  • MANNY!!!!!
    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:44 pm
  • Nice call, Rob.

    Brad April 29, 2007, 3:44 pm
  • Ask Rob and you shall receive

    TJ April 29, 2007, 3:44 pm
  • 7 runs again….

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:45 pm
  • MANNY!

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:45 pm
  • Oh Manny…there you are. For what seems like the fifth time this year…”Looks like Manny’s finally waking up!!”

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:45 pm
  • from now on, Rob has to be here and use that lione before every Manny at bat :p

    TJ April 29, 2007, 3:45 pm
  • Manny 2-4 today, average up to .202.
    Look out, AL. Manny’s warming up.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:46 pm
  • Rob April 29, 2007, 3:46 pm
  • I wish that the “Ask Rob and you shall receive” worked when my washer machine broke and wife raked me for 2200 on front loaders.

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:47 pm
  • The Sox scored at least seven in EVERY game except yesterday’s. That’s incredible. We need to find out the last time the Sox scored more than 45 runs over six games against the Yankees.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:47 pm
  • Bruney.
    Like, wow.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:47 pm
  • Haha I’m pretty sure SOMEBODY has used that line before every Manny ab for the last two weeks. I remembered Henn striking out Manny and making him look silly last time he faced him…and had a pretty good feeling about this ab. Then again, I’m pretty sure I’ve had a good feeling before every Manny ab…
    Hooray!

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:48 pm
  • “At the end of the conference call, Moss was asked about running a 4.29 40-yard dash in front of Bill Belichick.
    “The Moss of old is back,” he said. “We’ll leave it at that.””
    Hehe…Pats look like a reeeeally good team coming in this year. :-)

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:49 pm
  • Should the score hold up and the Sox taking 2 out of 3, does anything happen in NY this week? Does the Boss finally explode?

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:49 pm
  • “Alex Gonzalez batting 5th again today for the reds has hit his 3rd HR of the season. and is batting .330″
    Didn’t Alex miss a little time this season for personal reasons? I feel like I remember seeing something like “our prayers our with Alex Gonzalez” somewhere.

    Tyrel SF April 29, 2007, 3:50 pm
  • “Should the score hold up and the Sox taking 2 out of 3, does anything happen in NY this week? Does the Boss finally explode?”
    If nothing happens, Torre owes Igawa a Rolex. Or a Bentley.

    Tyrel SF April 29, 2007, 3:52 pm
  • Ok, in 1959, the Red Sox scored at least seven runs against the Yankees in five straight games, scoring a total of 50 runs, and it looks like it was all done in one series.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 3:53 pm
  • the thing that makes me happiest about the first 6 games is the fact the yankees havent gotten too many looks at paps.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 3:53 pm
  • Tonight wasn’t Torre’s fault, and neither was the first game. When your two best starters can’t give you a strong six and the pen is ALREADY that tired…
    Something to be said for leaving Wang in longer today, but it’s not like he was his normal self. 2 homers allowed, and a 13/4 go/fo ratio which is good, but not typical Wang. Too early for me to gleefully start shouting “regression to the mean,” but he hasn’t been sharp so far this season.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 3:54 pm
  • Rob, no.
    The next two weeks, NYY plays only Seattle and Texas. A good elixer. Although, Texas is a good hitting team, and given the state of this overworked bullpen, that could be trouble.
    If things get so dire that GS forces a managerial move, I don’t see it happening before Memorial Day.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 3:55 pm
  • nice research Paul

    Rob April 29, 2007, 3:55 pm
  • Stupid Timlin…I wanted that f*cking streak to end. Ugh, thank God for those insurance runs.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 4:01 pm
  • Baseball Reference is the shiznit.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 4:01 pm
  • Friggin Jeter…just cannot role over and quit can he.

    Rob April 29, 2007, 4:02 pm
  • ” “our prayers our with Alex Gonzalez” somewhere.”
    sick daughter

    Ric April 29, 2007, 4:02 pm
  • …OK, Timlin, I’ve been defending you here for a while…looked great against Damon…get the f*cking ball down.
    Yankee Stadium thinks A-Rod can hit a 3-run homer here. :-)

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 4:03 pm
  • Now Abreau singles….ugh…someone walk to the mound and have a talk with Timlin

    Rob April 29, 2007, 4:03 pm
  • I knew he was in trouble when it got to three balls on Jeter. Ok, bases clear, let’s get out of it, hand it to Paps and end this thing.
    …or not. Are we gonna need Paps for four or five outs in a game we were leading by four freaking runs?

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 4:03 pm
  • Arod into a DP? Perhaps someone should’ve reminded him that it’s still April…

    Tyrel SF April 29, 2007, 4:04 pm
  • Nope! Because A-Rod is reverting to 2006 form! Double play!

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 4:04 pm
  • YES!!!
    We’ve missed you, Double play-Rod!

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 4:04 pm
  • Hahahaaha, now THAT’S Alex f*cking Rodriguez!!!
    Seems like Timlin makes one or two bad pitches per appearance and always pays for it. I still think he looks better then he did last season, and that he’ll be an effective enough reliever this season. Sure, he’s no Hideki Okajima, but not many guys are. :-)

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 4:05 pm
  • ARod gidp….thank goodness
    gets Paps up

    Rob April 29, 2007, 4:05 pm
  • And for some reason I thought jJeter had hit a 2-run homr, which was adding, unnecessarily, to my nervousness. Still a save situation, the easy kind — perfect for Paps to get work, get credit for it but not kill himself.

    Paul SF April 29, 2007, 4:07 pm
  • it was a magical two weeks. wether it’s april records or runners on in close game…….we’ll all remember how he almost did it.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 4:07 pm
  • Of course, no one would be particularly surprised if Boston racked up another couple runs off of Vizcaino, whose elbow/shoulder is going to resemble a loosely tied bundle of noodles by the end of his tenure with NY.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 4:08 pm
  • Did someone ban all the YFs, or is this a self-imposed exile?

    Tyrel SF April 29, 2007, 4:10 pm
  • Vizcaino actually looks sharp today…amazing what a day off can do for you.
    Looking for the second clean inning of the day for Yankee pitching.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 4:11 pm
  • I notice the absence of Yankee Fans too, Tyrell. Even during their win yesterday, they were laying low.
    I suppose it’s hard to be chatty when your team is getting SMOKED.

    Ayuh - SF April 29, 2007, 4:13 pm
  • Ugh. Youkilis looking uncharacteristically bad. I wanted to see Vizcaino vs Ortiz.
    Oh well, here comes Paps.
    I think this is one of those times for NY when fans just completely avoid sports media, because it’s just too painful to deal with.
    FYI, that Jeter homer was only the 4th extra-base hit of the series so far. Posada and Minky homered, and Melky hit that pain in the ass pop-fly in shallow LF that bounced into the stands for a double.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 4:14 pm
  • Paps missed location BADLY there, lucky it stayed in the yard. Can’t be perfect all season; just get the 3 outs and lets get out of here.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 4:17 pm
  • Matsui gets dominated; Christ that fastball has a lot of movement.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 4:20 pm
  • 2 down….

    Rob April 29, 2007, 4:21 pm
  • “lets go red sox” chant takes over the stadium, again.

    sf rod April 29, 2007, 4:24 pm
  • 2 of 3, 5 of 6.
    And the Pats get Randy Moss.
    Yes, I’m happy.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 4:25 pm
  • awful, awful April, make it go away now.

    Nick-YF April 29, 2007, 4:30 pm
  • Nick, if NYY are not in this at the end, nobody will be more surprised than me.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 4:32 pm
  • And the door slams shut.
    Boston’s bullpen:
    9.2 IP, 8 H, 1 2B, 1 HR, 1 ER, 3 BB, 11 K. 1.14 WHIP, .93 ERA
    Totals:
    27 IP, 21 H, 2 2B, 3 HR, 10 ER, 15 BB, 23 K. 1.33 WHIP, 3.33 ERA
    Flat-out dominance.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 4:32 pm
  • Joe Needs to go
    Wang’s at 84 pitches and you take him out.
    Does this **** ever end?

    th_Yf April 29, 2007, 4:33 pm
  • Bill, I’m having a tough time viewing this team as a contender. Yeah, there are injury issues, and the pitching can’t be as bad as it has been so far, but this team has shown very little backbone and resilience. It seems they’re a preternaturally incapable of holding a lead for more than 1 inning. It scares me to think where the Yanks would be without A-Rod’s historical month.

    Nick-YF April 29, 2007, 4:35 pm
  • “Nick, if NYY are not in this at the end, nobody will be more surprised than me.”
    It’s early and I don’t really expect NY to fall out of contention. That said…if Wang and Mussina don’t come back strong and effective, this team’s in some serious trouble. So far Wang hasn’t been good, there’s just no other way to put it. I read an article the other day that said Mussina’s velocity is down, or was, before he went on the DL.
    And lets keep in mind that two walkoffs in the first month is impressive…but it’s also very, very, VERY lucky. Like Nick said…if A-Rod had been even slightly less inhuman the first two weeks, we’re potentially talking about a 7.5-8.5 game deficit right now and a sub-.350 WPCT.
    Let me reiterate: Not trying to sound like an April-inspired, arrogant homer of a Sox Fan, and injuries can change everything. But so far…the Yankee pen, which was supposed to be a strength, has been abused into…uhh…awfulness. The starting pitching, supposed to be consistantly “good enough” has been hurt and piss-poor. The offense, supposed to be the best in the game, has been somewhat underwhelming when you think about it. Forgetting Boston’s club for a moment, this just hasn’t looked like a playoff-caliber team.
    And I hope I’m wrong, because playoff races are fun.

    desturbd1 April 29, 2007, 4:54 pm
  • You all point out good, accurate, relevant details.
    Small picture, the offense is underachieving. Big picture, unless Cash makes a deal or the unexpected happens (Karstens, Igawa, Hughes combine to win 50 games from here), or the bullpen starts getting key outs, the pitching is in trouble.
    But I’m an old man. Too many times I have seen NYY look awful and pathetic early only to come back and look like world beaters.
    1978, folks. That’s all. 1978.
    Remember, it’s that one thing, above all, that makes us RS fans hate NYY. That … thing. Like the Celtics used to have.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 29, 2007, 5:52 pm
  • As a SF, I don’t want to pile on here too much, but I have to agree with much of what d1 says. In some respects, I feel that the Yanks looked even worse this weekend than last, although they managed to win one this time.
    Of course, I had similar feelings of what I believe the Germans call Yankeeschadenfreude [best translated as "glee at pain caused Yankees fans"] in 2005, and that didn’t last too long.
    It could just be that the yanks are playing poorly now and the sox are hot. we’ll definitely learn a lot more from seeing the yanks play Texas and Seattle.
    And thank heavens there’s not another Yanks/Sox game for three weeks. Sox have a much harder road between here and there, and if they’re still leading the division by 4, I’ll be ecstatic. And very surprised.
    PS Am I the only SF here a little disappointed that ARod didn’t break Pujols’ HR record? Not sure why I am, exactly, but i think it would’ve been fun.

    stuck working April 29, 2007, 5:54 pm
  • I missed this game as I was at work for the entire thing.. and just learned the score NOW as I’m so sick that I passed right out.
    Woke up about 5 minutes ago and what a nice awakening. I thought I was still dreaming.
    Just how in all zombie hells did Tavarez manage NOT to suck more than a vacuum cleaner?
    How is Cora keeping up this streak of basically defying his ENTIRE career?

    Dionysus April 29, 2007, 8:09 pm
  • Oops.. posted this in the wrogn window. Meant it to be in the game thread. Stupid tabs.
    I don’t know if you guys have editorial control (I imagien you do) but feel free to delete this and the previous comment. I’ll post it in the right place

    Dionysus April 29, 2007, 8:10 pm
  • Or wait.. it IS in the right thread!
    Man I’m really really sick. I can’t even think straight. Back to bed.

    Dionysus April 29, 2007, 8:12 pm
  • Sucks to be sick, eh, Dionysus? I’ve been sick for two weeks now in one way or another (from wisdom tooth to sniffles), and it stinks. You have my sympathy (and empathy), bro.

    Devine April 30, 2007, 1:01 am

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