Joe Stays. Probably.

The Post reports Joe will be retained. Talk amongst yourselves.

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  • “An emotional Steinbrenner was ready to can Torre after the Yankees were eliminated in four games by the Tigers in the ALDS Saturday but given some time and gauging the public interest, The Boss decided Torre was the best manager.
    “When Steinbrenner departed for home yesterday afternoon, publicly he let Torre twist in the October wind.
    “‘I haven’t made up my mind yet,’ Steinbrenner said when asked about Torre’s fate outside his midtown hotel.”
    Does Steinbrenner have compromising pictures of Torre, or something? What employee would put up with his employer publicly calling his ability to do his job into question after each failure — arguable caused by the employer himself — then finally saying, “Oh, OK. I guess you’re good enough.”
    In a perfect world, Torre would say, “Nice gesture, Boss, but screw you very much.”

    Paul SF October 10, 2006, 10:27 am
  • I look at this in the same way I look at Al Davis and the Raiders: As long as Torre and his terrible bullpen management and questionable lineup cards are with the Yankees, there’s always the chance he’ll mess up either one. As good as he is at most times, I always expect he’ll make the decision to go with tired old veterns and overused pitchers when it matters most.
    All that being said, I think he’s a great manager most of the time, and always figures out a way to get the job done during the season.

    Brad October 10, 2006, 10:36 am
  • I would criticize Torre for that, but Francona is exactly the same way. If only there were a way to combine the brilliance of an in-game tactician with the personality skills of Francona and Torre.

    Paul SF October 10, 2006, 11:04 am
  • Looks like the only way to deal with Torre’s shortcomings is to Torre-proof the roster. Dumping some of the “veterans” Brad mentioned will go a long way toward accomplishing that. Now is when Cashman begins to earn his pay in earnest….

    yankeemonkey October 10, 2006, 11:38 am
  • Who is a brilliant in-game tactician? I’m not being facetious, I’d genuinely like to know. Strikes me that all managers get criticized for their in-game moves.

    Sam October 10, 2006, 11:52 am
  • …kill me for being such a steinbrenner apologist, because he can be a big pia, and his bs gets too much for even the most die-hard fans, but….as the owner and boss, it is his right to blow off some steam and criticize his employees when they don’t perform…if they don’t like it, they don’t have to have such a public profession, and don’t have to take his money…they can coach and play in kansas city where the expectations are low, or in florida where the players outnumber the fans…

    dc October 10, 2006, 11:54 am
  • To answer your question Sam, IMHO, I think Jim Leyland is a good manager as far as on-field activity goes(though he shouldn’t be given a pass on his insistence to start Neifi Perez for something like 6 out of the first 7 games he was in a Tigers uniform. There is no way in which he is better than either Ramon Santiago or Omar Infante). I think Ken Macha generally makes the right baseball decisions, ditto for Ron Gardenhire, Mike Scoscia, Bobby Cox, and Bruce Bochy. Maybe I’ve missed some, and maybe a couple of those are off, but I think those are the premier “in-game strategists” of baseball today.

    Quo October 10, 2006, 12:08 pm
  • Lohud has it that Torre just said he’s staying. You can erase the “probably in the title”

    Nick-YF October 10, 2006, 1:15 pm
  • other news– intl herald tribune says matsuzaka will indeed be posted on 11/1.

    T-sf October 10, 2006, 1:24 pm
  • …if they don’t like it, they don’t have to have such a public profession, and don’t have to take his money…
    DC – Not that I don’t agree with you, because I do – but, it’s also respectful to do so behind closed doors. Personally, I would much rather my boss express his feelings in the confines of a one on one conversation and not in a public forum or in front of everyone else. Scare tactics and embarrassment for Steinbrenner is not the answer, and he should know that by now.

    Brad October 10, 2006, 2:16 pm
  • Alternate headline for this item:

    Hudson October 10, 2006, 2:33 pm
  • Steinbrenner has every right to demand certain things from his employees. But when they “fail” (and “failure” is relative, in this case) it’s one thing to call them in, tell them how badly they fucked up, and do so with dignity. It’s entirely another thing to issue lunatic press releases that serve no purpose other than to embarrass. Steibrenner may be a caring, devoted owner who does right by his fans in the “money spent” category (and that goes a long way, for sure), but as an employer and a character type he’s a joke. And I say this as the owner of a very small and relatively inconsequential company, one with only 10 employees, but with some experience as a boss. The way Steinbrenner treats his players and particularly his manager (NOT from a financial standpoint – that he does inarguably well) is pretty darn shameful, to this Boston fan. And he’s not alone: this personality disorder is epidemic amongst sports team ownership.

    SF October 10, 2006, 2:57 pm
  • Agreed SF. He also jacks up the prices at the stadium every single year since 95. All around he’s a (curse-word). He spends his money…I’m happy he does that I guess.

    walein October 10, 2006, 3:06 pm
  • brad and sf: i agree with you that a good boss should talk to his or her employees behind closed doors, but the point i was making is that ml baseball is a very public arena…nobody ever bought a ticket to watch me work…it’s not the same as the private sector, especially in ny…heck the players can’t even shower and get dressed in peace without reporters slobbering all over them for a decent quote…steinbrenner is a jerk, no argument here…he should wait until he cools down before he makes any comments…but i still have no problem with him making a negative comment about anyone publicly…have the players become such prima donnas that they only want to hear accolades?…to be fair, i’ve heard george heap the praise publicly when the yanks have achieved…

    dc October 10, 2006, 8:52 pm

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