Jose Can You See Make it to Class AA?

First the Yankees have the next Clemens.  Now they have the next Ramirez.   

We’re all for romancing young prospects (really, we are!), but breathlessness is not a Boston commodity, despite the tiring Daisuke mania — our participation notwithstanding.

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  • jose being manny:
    they also compared him to ryan howard [hee hee] and robinson cano…but to be fair, the guy said he emulates manny’s style and approach [including the baggy pants], and projects him to be “that type” of player…you’ve got a point about cooling the hype, but i don’t think his intent was to say he would have the kind of success manny has had…here’s some other notable comparisons that could be miscontrued:
    …i’ve heard soriano’s swing being similar visually to hank aaron…nobody expects him to be hank aaron…
    …cano’s batting style has been compared to rod carew…he ain’t no rod carew…yet

    dc March 10, 2007, 7:59 am
  • I have been compared to YF as well. I can say with all honesty I am no YF.

    SF March 10, 2007, 8:02 am
  • no, you’re not “the” yf, but with a little effort you could be a yf…let us sponsor you, take you under our wing…the conversion is a relatively simple process, and you’re already halfway there: you love the game…there is the little matter of the lobotomy and shock treatments, but they say it doesn’t hurt [much]…come on, what do you say?…

    dc March 10, 2007, 8:21 am
  • accept the coolness of jose being manny — this is what makes baseball — only a curmudgeon would disagree :-)

    john March 10, 2007, 8:43 am
  • I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

    SF March 10, 2007, 9:06 am
  • This “cool the hype” meme is complete, utter bullshit. It’s a solid profile of the Yanks top position prospect. It’s totally legitimate, and in fact it’s something to be applauded; i’m glad the NYT is paying attention to the Yankee farm, and I’m glad there’s something there worth their gaze. Of course he’s going to be compared to top player in the game, especially those he emulates. The Yankees brought him to their ML camp for a reason: to let him experience the level, to see how the pros prepare, to learn the ropes, to see how he handles it all (you know, like getting profiled in the NYT). It sounds like the kid has a ML makeup, which is encouraging. What SF is calling hype is simply the process of developing a player in the context of ML baseball. Grow up.
    And by the way, I love the fact that the Torre Tyson is named for Joe, and by one of his old Card mates. That says a lot about what a special person he must be–and it came before all those rings.

    YF March 10, 2007, 10:52 am
  • I think YF is right. Actually, it’s an interesting point that this article is a part of the developmental process for a top prospect. Can he handle the pressure that will come from this article? How does he deal with the comparisons, etc?

    Nick-YF March 10, 2007, 11:02 am
  • Also, it’s a bummer that my last name is so long and unpronounceable. No one will ever name their son after me.

    Nick-YF March 10, 2007, 11:03 am
  • Becketthater?
    Yeah, nobody is going to name their kid that!

    Anonymous March 10, 2007, 11:35 am
  • Me.

    Brad March 10, 2007, 11:35 am
  • Boston Media and Redsox Fans already comparing Dustin Pedroia to David Eckstein, Hold on minute. He could be Rey Ordonez..

    BIl MD March 10, 2007, 11:56 am
  • Yanks Aid Those Who Lost Loved Ones In Bronx Fire
    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070309&content_id=1835261&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy
    [QUOTE]The New York Yankees have voluntarily committed to paying the funeral costs for victims of a Bronx house fire that killed nine people Wednesday.
    Eight children and one adult perished when fire engulfed a row house near Yankee Stadium late Wednesday. The fire was the deadliest in New York City in 17 years, apart from the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center.
    Yankees principal owner George M. Steinbrenner addressed the club’s commitment in a statement released Friday through spokesman Howard Rubenstein.
    “The horrible tragedy in the Bronx which has resulted in the loss of life of nine of our neighbors has touched our hearts and those of all New Yorkers,” Steinbrenner said.
    “The New York Yankees have tremendous sympathy for the families and friends of those who have lost their lives or have been injured. We hope that by paying for the funerals, our assistance will be able to ease some of their burden.” [/QUOTE]
    Nice move on their part. The Yankees are and have always been a very classy organization. This was a very wonderful and touching thing for them to do.

    BIl MD March 10, 2007, 11:56 am
  • Jacob Ellsbury was being compared to Johnny Damon.. Wow, are you kidding me? Maybe He could next coco crisp. nobody knows.

    BIl MD March 10, 2007, 12:00 pm
  • YF misses the point of my post. The point being that taking the piss out of a fandom (either Yankee fandom or Sox fandom) for being excited about their prospects is silly – it goes both ways. And as I say, I am all for these profiles. There’s been way too much cynicism around these parts – whether it is Sox fans yelling about Hughes or Yankess fans yelling about Matsuzaka. My point, which may have come off as attacking Yankees fans for being excited about a prospect, was not that. YF and I completely agree on the legitimacy of profiling these kids.

    SF March 10, 2007, 12:17 pm
  • Honestly, he looks more like a Bobby Abreu than a Manny Ramirez right now. Point being that he doesn’t have that much power, or even that much projected power, but he’s fast and a rather good defender. We won’t see him near the majors until 2009 at least since he’s so young, but he’s already far ahead of where players his age should be. Color me excited for the lone decent Yankee hitting prospect (no, Eric Duncan doesn’t count anymore).

    Andrew March 10, 2007, 12:30 pm
  • It’s always fun to get excited about the young prospects. Of course, the Yanks and the Sox (as with all teams), have a tendency to put alot of print out there touting their systems and for every Bernie and Derek that come out of those systems there’s always a handful of Mike Pagliarulos and Dan Pasquas.
    Translated for Sox Fans: For every Boggs and Rice there’s always a handful of Danny Sheaffers and Sam Horns.

    walein March 10, 2007, 12:46 pm
  • Dmat has looked pretty good in his appearances thus far this spring, and today Kei Igawa gets the start against the Bucs.
    Hopefully, Kei can show a little more today than he did in his last outing when he struggled with his control.
    And btw, I’m not comparing the two pitchers, other than they happen to be new additions to the Sox and Yanks from Japan. Dmat obviously is much higher rated and would be considered to have a much bigger upside. I’m just hoping Kei can contribute something during his time with the Yankees.

    Whatever March 10, 2007, 12:53 pm
  • Hey, good news for the Sox. Carl Pavano is back in camp after a short absence for personal reasons, and after a bullpen session today, will face the Sox on Monday night.

    Whatever March 10, 2007, 12:57 pm
  • I’m always leery of power prospects anyway. Phil Plantier, Kevin Maas, Sam Horn They may be even riskier than pitching prospects…

    Paul SF March 10, 2007, 12:58 pm
  • Beckett vs. Verlander. Nice matchup.

    Whatever March 10, 2007, 1:07 pm
  • Well, at least Sam Horn ended up with a highly rated baseball site named after him. Sons of Sam Horn has a nice ring to it. Somehow, Sons of Phil Plantier just doesn’t quite have it.

    Whatever March 10, 2007, 1:16 pm
  • Yikes. Hinske with the Grand Salami off Verlander. 5-0 Sox.

    Whatever March 10, 2007, 1:20 pm
  • Yanks up 3-0 after the top of the 1st.

    Whatever March 10, 2007, 1:22 pm
  • “Jose Can You -See- Make it to Class AA?”
    “My point, which may have come off as attacking Yankees fans for being excited about a prospect, was not that.”
    … Yeah.
    Tabata is the real deal, anyway. He’s five years younger than your boy Ellsbury and he’s considered a better prospect by Baseball America.

    Jordan Meisner March 10, 2007, 6:13 pm
  • Which only means that Ellsbury is that many years closer to the majors than Tabata is.
    Two different types of players, anyway…Ellsbury is a plus plus defender with lightning speed and a good bat, but not a ton of power.

    Steve March 10, 2007, 6:34 pm
  • Jordan:
    The post could have as well been about Clay Buccholz, had the Globe run a story about how he is the next Greg Maddux. As it was, I awoke to a New York Times story about a kid who is going to start the year in High A-ball, which is what the title alludes to.

    SF March 10, 2007, 7:06 pm
  • Well, that also means Ellsbury is that much more of a finished product, and that’s well below what people expect of Tabata. I don’t really know too much about Ellsbury, is he basically the second coming of Juan Pierre?

    Andrew March 10, 2007, 7:07 pm
  • He’s “supposed” to be a lot more versatile than Pierre. More power (again, not a ton, but I think they’re projecting around 10-15 HRs,) and better defense.
    You never really know with prospects, though.
    Pierre is great at hitting singles and stealing bases, but he sucks at pretty much everything else. If I remember correctly, he made more outs than anybody else in the entire NL last year.

    Steve March 10, 2007, 7:10 pm
  • or Yankess fans yelling about Matsuzaka
    Has someone been deleting those comments? I haven’t seen them.

    john March 10, 2007, 7:13 pm
  • Yuck, I doubt it, Andrew. Ellsbury has better plate discipline than Pierre, consistently putting up .300/.400/.420 lines in the minors.
    Pierre’s career in the majors is .300/.350/.380, and although he put up better OBP numbers than that in the minors, they still weren’t as good as Ellsbury’s. His power’s always been a notch below Ellsbury’s, as well.

    Paul SF March 10, 2007, 7:13 pm
  • Wow, seriously John? You mean it wasn’t Yankees fans who have been telling us to temper our expectations for Daisuke, that he’s unproven, a question mark, and that we ought to think twice about anointing him an ace or a #2 already?
    I suppose there’s a chance that those were the multitudes of Marlins fans who frequent this blog (and others as well).

    SF March 10, 2007, 9:26 pm

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