Juggernot: Sox-Jays Gamer II

Today’s lineup is on the scroll at NESN and it is not pretty, which I guess is about right considering the ugly hangover that must be lingering after last night’s debacle.  It’s like the Sox went beer-goggling, got heismaned, and all we’re left with a is skull-numbing headache and a black eye.  The bottom four of the lineup?

  • Snow
  • Mohr
  • Cora
  • Bard

Plus the bullpen is gassed. We’re not cocky today.  Discuss.

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  • Maybe it’s the residuals from last night, or the lame first three batters, or Halladay, or the gray skies here in New York, but today already feels like a lost cause. I hope I am wrong.

    SF April 22, 2006, 1:13 pm
  • Already in the hole. This is just not going to be pretty. We should have won last night, and then just given them this one.

    rk April 22, 2006, 1:21 pm
  • Yep, lost cause. Time to go for a walk in the rain, it can’t be less enjoyable than what’s going to happen to the Sox in the next three hours.

    SF April 22, 2006, 1:22 pm
  • Bye.

    SF April 22, 2006, 1:23 pm
  • I suppose if we can’t win on a night when Burnett’s gone after 4, Beckett pitches into the eighth and the Sox hit four home runs, when CAN we win?

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 1:23 pm
  • Only reason to watch this game is root for DiNardo. I really like the guy. I hope he does respecably well like last game.
    Unfortunately that doesn’t even look very good right now.

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 1:25 pm
  • And now I’m not sure if I want the Os to beat the Yanks today – if they do, the Sox fall into 2nd place. Ick.
    Is it terrible of us to just completely write this game off in the 1st inning?
    How long is Tito going to have DiNardo eat innings, and what’s the over/under on his ERA after this afternoon?

    rk April 22, 2006, 1:25 pm
  • The question is can we root for the Yankees? If the O’s win, the Sox are out of first place…

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 1:27 pm
  • rk, you beat me to the punch… I had top consult a newspaper and make sure I was right about the standings lol.
    Hey, you never know… I certainly didn’t expect us to lose after having a 4-run lead in the seventh with Beckett on the hill. Halladay’s had trouble before…

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 1:28 pm
  • After Manny bats, I’ve got to go and actually do work…

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 1:30 pm
  • I think in the long run a Yankee loss will be far more beneficial to the Red Sox’ season. Does anyone doubt itll be Sox-Yanks within three games of each other come September?

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 1:31 pm
  • Well that sucked… See ya.

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 1:32 pm
  • Yeah, it’s funny how Manny, batting forth, looks beyond Nixon batting right behind him at the rest of the lineup, and FOUR GUYS today just sort of shrug at him.

    rk April 22, 2006, 1:35 pm
  • Fourth, oops. Although “Batting forth” is funny.

    rk April 22, 2006, 1:36 pm
  • Ugh, just ugh. Anyone keeping track of this, or even worse, watching it? Cora walk, BARD DOUBLE, and then Youk and Loretta waste it.
    Just ugh.

    rk April 22, 2006, 2:00 pm
  • So Francona’s seen enough of DiNardo today, but with such a short bullpen, I don’t see any reason why he shouldn’t pull a Torre and have Lenny take one for the team. If he was going to take him out after the first two guys reached then why not have taken him out before the inning? Is he still playing for this game or not? Francona should have just gone out and told DiNardo to suck it up, make him throw 7 innings and save the pen. Now, he’s just going to burn through another couple of arms with so many innings left. I think this is really stupid. Van Buren better be in there for the duration.

    SF April 22, 2006, 2:20 pm
  • I really like Van Buren but he’s obviously not stopping the bleeding…

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 2:33 pm
  • Nothing like leaving a game 4-0 and coming back 8-1. Boy, that’s as much fun as a kick in the crotch … with a steel-toed boot.

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 2:34 pm
  • 8-1 now.
    The last few days have been ugly. Basically, unless Schilling and Beckett hold the other team to 2 runs or less, we’ve shown next to nothing since heady times of Monday and Tuesday.
    The Sox aren’t hitting for Wakefield, the middle relief has sucked, Clement is looking like a 5-6 inning pitcher, Wells is probably never coming back, Riske/Seanez are a total loss. Our vaunted pitching depth is looking pathetically thin, with the Arroyo trade looking like Theo’s worst hour. Meanwhile, the bench is stocked with .200 hitters and some of our starters aren’t doing much better.
    It frankly seems a near-miracle that Boston has 11 wins.

    Hudson April 22, 2006, 2:41 pm
  • Josh Bard, two freakin’ hits!
    He’s like “c’mon guys, don’t hate me because I can’t catch a knuckleball”
    And I posted this on the other thread because I assumed no one was watching the Sox game, but does anyone here know the logic behind the home dugout being on either the first or third baseline? Sox and Yanks of first baseline, Nats, Cubs, and Indians on third baseline (so I’m told). Any ideas?

    rk April 22, 2006, 2:42 pm
  • Well, the way i see it, is that this is supposed to be Boston’s rebuilding year, the year we wait for the big guns/arms from the minors to fill in our holes late in the season. Anything we get on top of that is like a present or something.
    But obviously you don’t get veterans like Loretta and Snow with the intention of sucking. It’s a long seasoin, Hudson. We’ll be in the thick of it when it’s over.
    After all, it looks like we have three good arms in the pen, one more than last year, two top-notch aces, two more than last year, and a lights-out defense, far better than last year. And the bats? Well, I don’t know about them. The Top 5 or 6 should all end up with good years (although Tek’s absence raises more fears that he might be hurt). When Coco’s back and the weather arms, we should have a better idea how we’ll do.
    That was hard to write, especially after the last seven-or-so innings of baseball we’ve seen from this team. But hey, I’d rather them do this now than in September.

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 2:46 pm
  • Papi’s looking sad or tired. That would be the un-clutch side of him. HR there puts us back in the game, with Halliday looking at 90 pitches and not out of the 5th. Oh well. Still have no hope for this one.
    At least it seems Van Buren’s in there for a while.

    rk April 22, 2006, 2:48 pm
  • If I was a Jays fan, I’d be worried about the combined nine innings my aces could put in over two games. That’s not what you expect or want out of your top 2 pitchers…

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 2:53 pm
  • This is the first I’ve heard that this is supposed to be a rebuilding year. How do you figure that? Is Schilling getting younger? Are we not a $120M team?

    Hudson April 22, 2006, 2:55 pm
  • Halladay is usually an innings-eater, very efficient. He was off today; probably a bit rusty from his time off. But, I think he’ll be good for the year. Burnett’s signing was puzzzling. How can you commit 5 years to such an injury-risk?

    NickYF April 22, 2006, 2:56 pm
  • I heard it several times this offseason, that this is a “year of transition” blah blah blah. They’re built to win now, but I get the feeling that it’s more important to the FO this year to get the pieces in place to win next year through 2010…

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 2:58 pm
  • A “rebuilding year” is one in which a team admits it’s not going to compete for the division/pennant/series and works on developing players for future years.
    That’s not the Sox this year. We have Manny, Ortiz, Tek and Nixon in their prime, Schilling and Wakefield in their later years, and some hot new talent to take us all the way.
    What is frustrating is the lack of depth. Mohr, Pena and Stern just can’t hold a candle to the likes of Kapler and Roberts.
    The big, obvious questions are: Are the Sox going to concede every fifth game with someone like DiNardo while waiting for Clemens to make a decision, or get another starter on board? Alternatively, is there enough confidence in Foulke to move Papelbon to the rotation? Does carrying Gonzalez, Bard, and the other light hitters make much sense when, with just a few acquisitions, we could have a championship-level club?

    Hudson April 22, 2006, 3:03 pm
  • Tito’s given up… Mohr’s in left field…

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 3:04 pm
  • Yeah, Wells really screwed us over on the starters’ front. I think I’d rather us go to a 4-man rotation, something Francona will NEVER do, and get DiNardo back into the pen…

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 3:06 pm
  • Harris in center.

    Hudson April 22, 2006, 3:06 pm
  • I don’t know that anybody thought Mohr and Harris would be completely lost at the plate… Look at us, already consigning the team to mediocrity, and we still have 11 wins and a multi-game lead on the Yankees. Color me optimistic-but-frustrated.

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 3:08 pm
  • Bard with the walk! It’s frustrating as hell when the bottom of the order puts together an unexpected good game and then the big boppers can’t do crap.

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 3:10 pm
  • It just strikes me that we’ve got a team which is comprised of one-half superstars, and the other half washed-up relievers and AAA hitters.

    Hudson April 22, 2006, 3:11 pm
  • Where was that inning, yesterday, Seanez?

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 3:16 pm
  • All right, here comes that 7-run rally!
    *sigh*

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 3:18 pm
  • As a baseball fan,I am offended at any lineup that has Willie Harris batting behind cleanup behind David Ortiz…

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 3:21 pm
  • I don’t know if anyyone is even around anymore to notice, but the bullpen has just gone through 5 innings and given up 1 run.

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 3:28 pm
  • Yeah, but the offense just wants this game to end fast.

    rk April 22, 2006, 3:32 pm
  • And there it went. 6 pitches to end the game.

    rk April 22, 2006, 3:32 pm
  • Well, that was something between dismal and hellish. It was like we didn’t even try.

    Paul A. April 22, 2006, 3:43 pm

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