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Keep Your Feet Lively: Sox-Yanks Gamer

Someone is getting plunked tonight. Don’t know who, don’t know when. The thing is that with Tim Wakefield and AJ Burnett pitching, it was a statistical certainty even before yesterday’s kneecappers, brushers and flippers.

Jonathan Papelbon set a major-league record by reaching his 200th save last night in only 359 appearances.

Cervelli is catching for the Yankees tonight with Martin resting a sore back, though it’s probable he could play if something happens to Francisco — Jorge is attending to a family matter — according to Mark Feinsand. Remarkably, Teixeira seems to have recovered well enough to play tonight. That’s a relief. Speaking of relief, the Yankees don’t have much. Joba is now on the DL. Last night’s strong performance by Noesi got him sent back to Scranton to get more starts with two fresh arms coming in.

Lineups follow, comment away.

J. Ellsbury cf .301
D. Pedroia 2b .246
A. Gonzalez 1b .340
K. Youkilis 3b .255
D. Ortiz dh .324
C. Crawford lf .243
M. Scutaro ss .236
J.D. Drew rf .227
J. Varitek c .226
T. Wakefield rhp 4.40
NY Yankees
D. Jeter ss .263
C. Granderson cf .269
M. Teixeira 1b .258
A. Rodriguez dh .280
R. Cano 2b .277
N. Swisher rf .222
B. Gardner lf .258
E. Nunez 3b .212
F. Cervelli c .167
A.J. Burnett rhp 3.86

176 replies on “Keep Your Feet Lively: Sox-Yanks Gamer”

Luis Exposito called up as Jenks goes on the DL. Expo called up because Salty is ill. Once Salty is better, Expo goes down and a pitcher comes up.

Also, former Red Sox jewel prospect Anthony Rizzo is called up by the Padres.
Rizzman just destroyed Triple-A pitching.

Ugh, so many injuries. As the resident experts on the subject, SFs, do we Yankee fans get a ‘devastated by injuries’ buddy-pass for this season? ;)

This game is over already.
Thank god I don’t have to stay up to watch this awfulness.
It’s a wonder the Yankees are even in contention at this point.

IBM, the Yankees apparently don’t care about Boston games until half of them are already over. Enjoy it, and hope they don’t choke away the rest of the season like the last two years.
But this time they probably won’t, because for once they actually do have the markedly better (and certainly healthier!) team. I can’t get too upset because I had very few expectations for this season to begin with.

maybe i don’t follow the yanks close enough, but what are these crazy amount of injuries you guy’s are talking about? soriano….and then what?

Stupid Bruins are up 1-0…
Joba- DL
Soriano- DL
Feliciano- DL
Marte- DL
Hughes- DL
Martin has missed games
ARod missed games

Boston is going to win the fucking Cup. Unreal.
Now, much like the Patties, I will have to hear it from Bruin fans in pink hats. I have never met a Bruins fan before, kinda like Patriots fans pre-2003. None.

All I see on breaks are Swisher and Papelbon pushing electric razors and vodka commercials. I have the urge to get loaded and cut myself.
Wait, maybe that’s the game doing that part.

Yeah, and if Miller had his D, he would win the Vezina.
Timmy Thomas is the most overrated goalie in the NHL, aside from Luongo.
Miller has already won a Vezina. Also started in the Olympics if you remember. Because he is hands down, the best American goaltender.
BUT, he hasn’t won a Cup yet and Thomas is about to…

Boston has the market cornered IBM…when it comes to the Pats and B’s. The Sox have always had crazy fans everywhere.
To disagree is homerism. I worked at Disney where everyone where’s their home teams gear. NEVER saw B’s or Pats, ever. Until they won.
Sorry. It’s the truth.

Ryan Miller is a great goalie. Fantastic goalie.
If Tim Thomas was a Sabre, you’d love him.
TT played in Europe for years because no NHL team would give him a chance. Bruins signed him as a back-up. No shame in being a late bloomer. All he did in Europe was win.

Krueg, I’ll admit faster than you can drink a beer that it’s much easier being a Boston fan here in Chicago because I’m sheltered from the knuckleheads.
But Boston was always a great hockey town. The Jacobs family drove the fans underground with their poor leadership. They were poor owners and poor stewards.
But Boston is a hockey-crazy town. BC, BU, Harvard, many of the 1980 US team were Boston kids.

Thomas is good. Obviously.
And don’t talk smack about Jacobs!!! He’s a fellow Buffalonian!!! ;)
Seriously, never met a Bruins fan in my life. And I’ve lived in 4 states and am a hockey maniac. Just my experience.

Oh yeah. One of our locations at work is Naperville and when I tried to talk hockey to them a few years ago they looked at me like I was retarded.
Now? All Hawks fans.
Of course Patty Kane is from Buffalo so that’s why they won. ;)

About to crack open a New Belgium Ranger IPA. …
I do have many lifelong Chicagoan friends who are big Hawks fans and who really appreciate the old lunchpail Hawks from the Stadium.

I went up to visit friends in Elmhurst a few years ago and almost got into it with a real Hawks fan…I think it was more because I was talking to his girlfriend but whatever. ;)

Peverly from Lucic. Awesome effort from Looch.
Luongo is out.

Milbury is awesome. Remember when he retired and became a Bruins assistant coach. Late in the season the Bs were short on D, so Milbury unretired and strapped ’em on. Balls.

So this is what it feels like to be a fan of a garbage team? I don’t think I would even watch…
Actually, I think I’m going to take a few weeks off. If they don’t care about winning or standing up for themselves why should I? NOT watching tomorrow. I need a break.
Worst team money can buy.
Enjoy SF’s. You guys are awesome. Good luck in the WS.
AND 0-4 in the hockey game.

Dustin Pedroia returning to Boston; knee surgery possible
Permalink|Comments (0)Posted by Peter Abraham, Globe Staff June 8, 2011 11:08 PM
By Peter Abraham and Nick Cafardo, Globe Staff
NEW YORK — Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia will return to Boston to have his right knee examined is facing the possibility of surgery that would sideline him for at least a month.
Pedroia was injured on May 16 when he fell on his knee fielding a ball against the Orioles. He described the procedure, which will be done at Massachusetts General Hospital, as a “needed with a camera on it” that will determine the extent of the damage.
If necessary, Pedroia would then have the surgery immediately.
“It could keep me out a month,” he said. “It’s not what I want. But I have to get it checked out.”
Pedroia said that his lack of production at the plate is attributable to his knee and surgically repaired left foot. “It’s hard to hit with something is wrong with your legs,” he said. “I’ve been trying.”

Seriously? GODDAMNIT.
At least it’s not a huge loss based on his productivity so far. Last year when he went down he had an OPS+ of 127, whereas in 2011 it’s 94.

sorry about that news on pedroia guys…obviously we don’t want any player getting hurt, but i really like that guy despite my razzing about his being an “annoying little gnat”…speedy recovery little gnat ;)

What an absolute cluster f***! From Cervelli’s two throwing errors to AJ’s inability to keep Papi in the park to Gardner forgetting that he’s fast…Add to that our bullpen situation and yikes!
This team needs some life. Call up Jorge Vazquez or Justin Maxwell. Neither of them figure in the Yankees future plans, who cares if you waste an option, etc…They have hit a combined 36 HR’s between them. I know the Yankees aren’t offensively challenged but they are esthetically challenged and boring. Infuse some life and nothing does that quicker than adding some youth to your everyday lineup. Can Maxwell be worse than Jones? Can Vazquez be worse than Posada? I doubt it.

I like that idea john. Why not??? Nothing to lose at this point???
I do think Maxwell is hurt though. His shoulder from running into the wall?

You are right K, he’s on the 7 day DL. Maxwell is on the 40 man already, so he’s more probable. Maybe we could cut ties with Gustavo Molina who isn’t catching in SWB, he’s DH’ing and he’s on the 40 man roster.

I could see a resurgence in the Bronx where he would actually play meaningful games…it’s just my dream. Won’t happen.
I would love to see Jorge 2.0 come up and DH. He has been crushing the ball since Spring Training, why not?
Also time to call up Montero and dump Cervelli. Let’s see what the kid can do? We’ve heard so much but seen so little.

Montero’s numbers at SWB this year have been pretty ordinary. I am fearful of bringing him up this close to the trade deadline. If he struggles or gets hurt we lose a big piece of what could eventually land us the SP’ing we need to catch the Sox. I am not advocating trading him (especially not knowing who it’s for) just yet, but I think bringing him up is a little risky if you ask me. Justin Smoak comes to mind, look how he struggled last year when he was traded then called up by the Mariners…the Rangers got Lee out of that deal. Let him remain a mystery unless of course he figures in the Yankees plans as an everyday player.

Plus after the Red Sox trade for Reyes we are going to need some sort of counter-punch so let’s save Montero for a blockbuster!
If the Mets do make Reyes available he’d fit perfectly with Sox and the Mets and the Sox would make great trade partners. Iglesias (all glove, zero bat) would fit perfectly in the NL and in cavernous Citi Field. Throw in a SP, maybe an OF bat…(Reddick?) They are a far better match (trade partner wise) than any other team including the Giants. If I am the Sox I do it in a heartbeat! It’s the kill shot. Short of landing an impact catcher, the Sox would be a near perfect team. Scary good.

Reyes is really tearing it up so far this year (153 OPS+). Can you imagine the triple steal threat of Ellsbury/Crawford/Reyes?
Having said that, I don’t think I want to see the Sox try to trade for him. I think the Mets will demand too much in return, especially if this is a big year for him.

Nice dude…XXL Tall for future reference.
I understand the hiding Montero in the minors for trade bait thing. You’re probably right there. I wish we still had Molina. He was big and fat, but great defensively. I always liked him. Maybe Sal Fasano is available???
Meh. Reyes in Boston would be tough for such a small market. Not sure how they could possibly afford it? ;)

That lineup is nuts already, imagine Reyes added to it…
Ath, what if it was Iglesias, Reddick and a SP? That seems reasonable and exactly what the Mets would be looking for. That’s a knockout punch move adding Reyes, I say go for it.

If that’s all it took I’d be all for it, but I don’t think that’s enough. Iglesias’ value is at an all-time low right now (.526 OPS, only 1 XBH in 151 AB this season at AAA), and Reyes’ perceived value is inflated right now. Obviously both values will return closer to the norm by the end of the season, but we’ll see.

I’d worry about injuries, though. You’d be paying a premium for a player having a career season who’s struggled through injuries and mediocre play in the previous two seasons. That’s scary to me. Of course, you could trade for him, get the rest of this monster season and let him hit free agency (possibly getting draft picks, depending on CBA negotiations), keep Lowrie at short and re-sign Papi for another two seasons (before Ortiz broke out, I figured the Sox would let him go, move Youkilis to DH, Lowrie to third and call up Iglesias).
Of course, it’s not like Lowrie is a paragon of health either, and it’s clear Reyes is the better hitter and fielder…

i tend to agree paul…on the surface, reyes would appear to be overkill on an already stocked team…it feels like the kind of move the yankees would make…seduced by that “career season”, and forgetting that he’s “struggled through injuries and mediocre play in the previous two seasons”, giving up way too much in the process, unnecessarily…i like the strategy you’ve laid out, although i’d be careful not to give papi too much…those big fat sluggers tend to fall off the cliff really fast as they age…

I certainly cannot argue that he’s having a career year, it’s definitely true. The only issue I have is other than 2009 he really has still been consistently good to very good. Sure his average and OBP this season are through the roof, but those numbers are just a bonus as you’d be happy with his career line of .289/.338 with solid D and the possibility of 50 SB’s. Like Ath said can you imagine a lineup with Crawford, Ellsbury and Reyes (and even Pedroia to a certain degree) all putting pressure on the pitchers and catchers over the course of a game? In a playoff series that would be a back breaker to deal with.
As for his injury tag, other than 2009 he’s played nearly a full season in each season. Remember the Mets medical staff is a mess (even though they have one of the most respected Dr.’s in the sports field, go figure) and the Mets haven’t had much to play for, both issues could have played into this.
I know this isn’t an original idea but holy cow the more I think about it the scarier it gets. Especially with the bloom coming off of Iglesias’ rose just a bit. Last season there was talk that the Phillies could quite possibly have had the best IF of all time…
You put Gonz, Pedroia, Youk, Reyes and Lowrie as the utility guy…that’s beyond scary.
PS: There’s no such thing as overkill in Boston and New York. Every year the ultimate goal is to win a championship. Especially when you have a stocked farm system. The only problem I have with the deal is that the Mets need a ML ready arm and I keep coming back to Dubrount, is he the only match?

Michael Bowden would have worked, but apparently he’s been converted to a long-reliever/closer this season (0 GS, 14 GF). Kyle Weiland might work, though I know absolutely nothing about his projected ceiling.
I have to admit, the more I think about it the more I salivate at the idea. A league-average OPS+ from SS would be fine by me, especially if they have speed like Reyes. Reyes’ contract is up at the end of 2011, right? Do the Mets have any team options? Baseball-Reference doesn’t say.

The Mets have an $11M club option in 2011, but imagine that means this current season, not the end of the season. If so that’s it, his contract is up after this year according to Cot’s.

The Mets are still in contention, so they’d had to drop a good bit in the next 1.5 months for him to make it to the trading block (though it’s the Mets, so that’s probably a likely scenario).
What other big clubs have a pressing need for a full-time middle infielder? I haven’t paid much attention to baseball outside of Boston and New York, so I’m not sure who else would be competing in a bidding war.

Brewers, no way. If they aren’t resigning Prince, they most certainly can’t justify trading for Reyes. Unless of course they are going CC style and trying to make a run in ’11.
Cardinals, I suppose but with the Pujols deal on the horizon I just don’t see it. Plus can you see Reyes playing for LaRussa?
Angels, good fit, owner spends $…I don’t know that their ML players match.
Giants have a need as well, but I really believe the Sox match up so much better. Reyes to Iglesias gives Mets fans hope and not a sense of well we just dumped the best SS in the game (’11) for Brandon Belt who is a 1Bman that tries to play the OF.
I think this could grown some legs Ath! If you believe it you can achieve it!

In MUCH more important news I just threw a (combined) NH with King Felix, Rafael Soriano and Matt Thornton in The Show! (Insert comments on how big of a dork I am right here)

Reyes is a free agent after this season. So it is a rental unless it comes with an extension.
I’d trade Reddick (if I knew Kalish was healthy), Iglesias, and something else for Reyes in less than no seconds. Even for the rental. That would be thievery.

Here’s my proposed deal:
Iglesias, Reddick, Dubrount and either Ranaudo or Drake Britton.
Reyes and LHRP to replace Dubrount.
If I’m the Mets, I am all for it! Britton throws 95 from the left side, Iglesias is a line drive hitter with a plus glove, Reddick can be the power in the OF the Mets need and Dubront is the ML ready arm they are asking for.
It just makes too much sense!

I am a PS3 guy Krueg, but yeah it’s awesome. I am an addict and I’ve been consumed with throwing a no hitter since I started playing a few years back…Normally I play until I give up a hit. I play 1 game a day to limit the addiction. Too bad King Felix ran out of gas in the 8th.

The Show is fantastic, though I haven’t played it since the 2008 version. I loved creating a pitcher in the minors and slowly working your way up.
I hope that would be enough to get Reyes, but I could see the Mets demanding like Ellsbury or Buchholz or some bullshit like that. You never know, though.

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