Life Is Good, But Is Good Bad?: Jays-Sox Gamer VI

This is what life is like inside the mind of a Red Sox fan who, even after two World Series wins, still can’t shake a lifetime of agony: My first reaction on the news of Yankee injuries or misfortune is, "That just means they’ll be rested and ready for a big run come August."

All the more reason to win now. The Yanks are struggling, and it looks like they’ll be struggling for a while longer. We don’t wish physical harm to their players, but it would be folly not to acknowledge that what has happened does seem to benefit the Red Sox — if the Sox take advantage. For all the complaining we’ve done about lucky wins (outperforming their Pythag by two wins), the key is still to win, and win while the Yankees are losing. Worry about the rest later.

On that note, the Sox have been winning, recent five-game slide notwithstanding. They’ve managed to survive great pitching performances by Roy Halladay and Dustin McGowan by putting together some stellar starts of their own. Tonight, it gets no easier, as A.J. Burnett and his near-100-mph heat face off against Tim Wakefield’s near-70-mph warmth. I’m not sure Burnett even has a pitch that goes as slowly as Wakefield’s fastball.

One doesn’t expect a three-peat of the terrific duels we’ve seen so far this series, but we weren’t exactly feeling optimistic about Jon Lester in Game 1 either. Basbeall is baseball, and the motto is the same: Just win, baby (and make especially sure you do it when the Yankees lose). Let everything else sort itself out.

Comment away!


1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
5. Mike Lowell, 3B
6. Brandon Moss, RF
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Jed Lowrie, SS
9. Kevin Cash, C

Tim Wakefield, SP


1. Alex Rios, RF
2. David Eckstein, SS
3. Scott Rolen, 3B
4. Matt Stairs, DH
5. Vernon Wells, CF
6. Aaron Hill, 2B
7. Shannon Stewart, LF
8. Rod Barajas, C
9. Marco Scutaro, 1B

A.J. Burnett, SP

129 comments… add one
  • Woo hoo! Just what the line-up needed: Kevin Cash!

    stuck working May 1, 2008, 6:56 pm
  • I miss Jacoby.

    Dionysus May 1, 2008, 7:02 pm
  • Also, I’ve always been predisposed to think well of Ricciardi for Moneyball/Billy Beane-related reasons, but looking at this Blue Jays line-up…what the hell are they doing up there??
    Almost every player in the that line-up screams “cast-off” to me: Eckstein, Rolen, Stewart, Scutaro, Barajas. I think my reaction to all of them is basically “Eh.” Except, of course, for the World Series MVP GritMaster.
    All that said, I still expect Toronto to win this game.

    stuck working May 1, 2008, 7:02 pm
  • Rios down quickly, thnak god.

    Dionysus May 1, 2008, 7:06 pm
  • The life of a knuckleballer. 2 quick strikes leadign to a groudnout on the third pitch.. Then a four pitch walk
    SWEET dp though!

    Dionysus May 1, 2008, 7:08 pm
  • I really, really hope Burnett wears the Boston uniform fairly soon.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 7:13 pm
  • GREAT battle to draw the walk by Youkilis.

    Dionysus May 1, 2008, 7:16 pm
  • I dunno how you lay off him. He is just so overpowering. A HUGE incentive based contract is what they should offer him. Someting along a base of ten, and a max of 20 with incentives for performance and numbers.
    He’s not Beckett, but he’s not far behind him. Put him in a good situation, with good players around him and I bet he’s an ace.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 7:18 pm
  • How far do you think Manny could hit one going a hundred miles an hour? ha.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 7:19 pm
  • Burnett is looking REALLY good.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 7:20 pm
  • I love the new Tampa-Bay style camera that’s in dead-center. You get a great view of curveballs from it.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 7:23 pm
  • I’ll be flat out amazed if IPK finds a way to lose for the Yankees tonight. It’s three to nil with no outs in the first. Detroit pen warming.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 7:24 pm
  • nah, no I wont.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 7:25 pm
  • I agree, Ath. It’s a good view.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 7:25 pm
  • Wow, Robertson gets out of the inning with only 27 pitches used. I would have guessed him around 40.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 7:29 pm
  • Lowell is back.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 7:32 pm

    Dionysus May 1, 2008, 7:33 pm
  • to no avaig. Nice hit though.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 7:36 pm
  • Gah, I am actually trying to buy MLBtv and MLB WON’T LET ME. Their purchasing service is on the fritz.
    Fine. Don’t take my money. Grrrr.

    SF May 1, 2008, 7:46 pm
  • Ha ha SF. I’m not sure I’d want to watch this game with this particular lineup anyway if I were you

    Dionysus May 1, 2008, 7:48 pm
  • SF – it’s for your own protection, really.

    rootbeerfloat May 1, 2008, 7:52 pm
  • See, I’m not amazed at all. In fact, I think it’s some of the funniest stuff I’ve ever witnessed. Pure Sox Fan entertainment.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 7:56 pm
  • I just bought it and it doesn’t work. AARGH.

    SF May 1, 2008, 7:57 pm
  • SF – that sucks.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 7:59 pm
  • Hey, at least the Yankees game, which I can actually watch on regular TV, is entertaining. They look like the Bad News Bears right now.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:00 pm
  • You decided on this purchase for a night when Wakefield was pitching?

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:00 pm
  • FINALLY working. Annoying as hell. Not a good beginning to my MLBtv experience.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:01 pm
  • Nice throw, Cash. Come on.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:01 pm
  • I hate Tim Wakefield. Why did I sign up for this on night he is pitching? WHY!?
    Stupid me.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:01 pm
  • Yeah, Brad, how’d IPK give up 4 runs?
    Of course, there’s always some point in the Yanks’ season where I think, “Could this finally be it? Could this be the year they fall apart?” And it never happens. I’m not getting too excited yet, but I’m glad you’re also enjoying it while it lasts.

    stuck working May 1, 2008, 8:02 pm
  • yeah, that baffled me too.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:02 pm
  • Watching Wake makes me a little queasy.

    rootbeerfloat May 1, 2008, 8:05 pm
  • Oh, stuck: I don’t think they’re done at all. I just take a weird unadulterated joy in watching Franshise and IPK get knocked around. He gave up the four runs, well, because he’s not that good. I could be wrong, but I just don’t see the talent. I see a junkballer, with a hittable fastball, and shaky nerves. Same way I view Lester, and Hughes. Hughes throws straighter though. At least so far..

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:07 pm
  • I have such a love/hate thign for Wakeler. He’s such a professional. He’s doen so many great thigns for us, for so long. Anythign we’ve asked of him he’s done.
    But then nights like this…

    Dionysus May 1, 2008, 8:08 pm
  • Yeah, really I’m hoping for unfixable mental problems caused by the press, the boos, and the pressure. I hope both of them are forever regarded as the “the hype we didn’t trade away for Johan Santana”.
    Just me though.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:09 pm
  • Manny Ramirez drinks your milkshake!

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:09 pm
  • Papi: “Screw the shift!”

    Dionysus May 1, 2008, 8:11 pm
  • I NEVER have a love/hate relationship with Wake. I always hate him lately. I think Masterson should be in the lineup. But, at least now we’re not carrying Doug M. for no reason whatsoever. ha.
    I know statistically, he just does what he needs to do, and in the end you wonder where all the wins and other stuff came from, but I hate having a guy like this.
    OR, I have a wierd obsession with Masterson and Clay being in the same linup.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:11 pm
  • Ortiz approaching the Mendoza line… in a good way.

    rootbeerfloat May 1, 2008, 8:12 pm
  • Hey Dio, Wake hasn’t allowed a run yet. Could be a lot worse, and at 66 pitches he’s pacing himself okay.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:12 pm
  • OK, a little bingo going here. Manny walks. Come on, Mikey.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:13 pm
  • I think Masterson should be in the lineup.
    Sorry Brad, but I don’t think he’s a Micah Owings ;-) I’d love to see him in the rotation, though.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:14 pm
  • Count in Mikey’s favor, and he pops one up. Grrr. This offense is still in the dumps.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:15 pm
  • Ha. Yeah, I guess so, Atheose. Nitpicker.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:16 pm
  • Rough break for Moss, who lines into a double play. Nice defense.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:16 pm
  • Great, Eckstein hits one 106 feet and ends up on second.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:19 pm
  • Jesus. PLEASE RETIRE!!!

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:19 pm

    Michael May 1, 2008, 8:19 pm
  • And now the HBP.
    Have I mentioned that I find watching Wake like waterboarding?

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:20 pm
  • Please get Grandpa Stairs. He kills us.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:21 pm
  • That was the stupidest play I’ve ever seen.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:22 pm
  • HAHA the Jays suck at baserunning

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:22 pm
  • Wow, pitiful running by Eckstein costs the Jays a run. Stairs hits a ball off the wall but Eckstein stands at second, then gets Rolen hung up. No runs, an out, and now two men in scoring position.
    Sac fly makes it 2-0 on the next pitch.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:23 pm
  • Eckstein totally had his milkshake drunk by the Red Sox there.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:23 pm
  • I think you guys are being a little hard on Wakefield (Come on, Brad – “Please retire”?). I love Wake 80% of the time! Yeah, the experience of actually watching him pitch is a roller-coaster — and I hate hate hate watching him pitch to the Yankees — but it’s easy to appreciate his charms the rest of the time, no?

    stuck working May 1, 2008, 8:25 pm
  • See, now Wake has made it through 5 innings, 2 runs, and has done a fine job. But I still hate watching.
    The Sox’ offense needs to get the collective head unwedged from the collective ass. This is one of the worst team-wide slumps I can remember.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:25 pm
  • Does anyone remember the last time the Sox had a multi-run inning?

    Michael May 1, 2008, 8:25 pm
  • The last one I remember was Manny’s walk-off homer against the Angels in the ALDS. Lol.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:29 pm
  • I do like Wake – watching him just makes me need a drink. Sometimes he’s brilliant and other times it’s painful.

    rootbeerfloat May 1, 2008, 8:29 pm
  • Ok, I know Halladay and Burnett are good pitchers, but what the hell is up with this team?

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:30 pm
  • Good at bats by Cash, if were not going to get hits, walks will have to do.

    Michael May 1, 2008, 8:32 pm
  • Burnett walks Kevin Cash, which is about as bad a job as you can do. Kangaroo court ought to grab some serious dough from AJ for that offense.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:32 pm
  • Cash draws a walk! Sadly Burnett has walked a lot of people, and then turns into superman while pitching from the stretch.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:32 pm
  • In the Bronx, Kennedy is in two out trouble again. It looks like he cannot pitch from the stretch.
    Girardi yanks him, another Bomber pitcher doesn’t make it through five.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:33 pm
  • Another sub five inning start for IPK. Boos coming down. I love it. LOVE IT. Oh, and the four runs, with two on base too.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:33 pm
  • Another nothing at-bat, Pedroia ends the inning.
    Looks like I picked the wrong night to spend a c-note on baseball.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:34 pm
  • IPK is out. 4.2 IP, 5H, 4ER, 3BB, 1K. Two inherited runners, so it might be more.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:35 pm
  • stuck: No. I can’t stand him. He’s a real nice guy, but easily my least favorite of any Red Sox pitcher. And that includes both Timlin and Tavarez. That should tell you something. I want him off the team more than anything. Just my opinion is all.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:36 pm
  • “c-note”
    And you busted balls for J-Dizzle? ha.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:37 pm
  • Wake is frustrating to watch, but he’s 2-0 with a sub 4 ERA. So basically you would want any other pitcher with similar numbers, just don’t look directly at him when he pitches.

    Michael May 1, 2008, 8:38 pm
  • And this is turning into a decent outing by knucklestandards. (I think we can great a whole new set of ways to reference Wakefeild’s starts by just adding a prefix of kuckle-. Its fun!)

    Dionysus May 1, 2008, 8:40 pm
  • Yeah, 2 runs in 6 innings? Yes, please. Wake definitely isn’t the problem with this team right now.

    stuck working May 1, 2008, 8:40 pm
  • Oh, I never thought he was a bad pitcher. That’s not what I meant at all. I just can’t stand the, um, look of it. I just don’t like junkballers, and he’s the king of all of them. He is very effective though, and thus, I’m appreciative for what he has given the Sox through the years.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:43 pm
  • Tavarez is probably my favorite pitcher when not looking at performance. He has a slight lead over Beckett, because he’s just awesome. Getting into fights in spring training? Getting rubbed by Manny? Wants to be a porn star? Rolls the ball to first base?
    I love the guy.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:44 pm
  • Ortiz through the shift! Time for some Manny Ramirez milkshake drinking.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:45 pm
  • Okay, Manny. Concentrate. See the ball and hit it. Ortiz beats the shift yet again.. I’m starting to think he’s a little like Wang – putting the grounders where he wants them.:)

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:45 pm
  • Hiiiiiiiiiiighway to the danger zone… bum de dum. Ride into to Danger Zooooooooooooone!

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:47 pm
  • Jeez he’s burning that high fastball in there.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:48 pm
  • Manny walks again! Come on Lowell…

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:49 pm
  • Does anyone have any clue how to get MLBtv working on a Mac? I can see it on my PC partition on my Macbook (I have Windows installed as well) but I cannot get it to work in Leopard. All MLB recommended downloads have been taken care of. I am at a loss.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:49 pm
  • I agree, Atheose. I mean, he doesn’t top Beckett in my admiration book by any stretch, but he does however rank right up there.
    Story – I go to the spring training games that start the year in Philly most years, and one of them was his start (two years ago). Anyhow, after the game we were walking back to the hotel, and he was just standing on the coner outside the park. Just standing there, talking to five or six chicks. Anyhow, the funny part of it was that he had shorts on that came down to his sneakers (morel like really really loose highwater pants) and a green silk shirt with yellow dollar symbols all over it ($). I immediately took a picture, laughed and made mental note that his shirt looked like the dalmation from the cartoon Richie Rich from a few years back.
    So weird just to see him, two hours after his start, standing on the corner talking to chicks like he was any other dude.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:50 pm
  • I dunno SF, I’m a PC guy. You’ve installed Silverlight? What about Java?

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:50 pm
  • Everything installed, Silverlight, etc.

    SF May 1, 2008, 8:51 pm
  • Moss deserves a hit here. That last one couldn’t have been hit harder at someone.
    Uh, nevermind.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:52 pm
  • AUGH. Me no likey Moss up there.

    stuck working May 1, 2008, 8:52 pm
  • Brad, PLEASE tell me you still have that picture.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:53 pm
  • Yeah, PC guy here too. No help whatsoever. Try googling it.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:53 pm
  • Dammit. IPK won’t get the loss today. I was really hoping it would stand up. Not so much for NY losing, but more more for just him.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:54 pm
  • Yeah, I have it. It’s the old fashioned kind though, the kind I had to actually have developed. I really should have it converted to a disc so I could share it.
    It really was hilarious.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:56 pm
  • Damnit, Yankees tie it. Just what we needed.
    Oh, and then Rios homers. That’s even better.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 8:56 pm
  • We need a full lineup again. I miss having one.
    Seriously. We need
    Lugo (or Lowrie)

    Dionysus May 1, 2008, 8:56 pm
  • Yeah, Lowrie. And I agree, Dio. I’m sick of the patchwork. Although, I guess we can’t really complain as of now. I mean, at least we don’t have anyone on the DL.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:58 pm
  • Nice move, Terry. Let them all see him one more time.
    Frustrating. I’m sure MDC would have done the same thing.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 8:59 pm
  • Time for The Office, and then the greatest show in the history of television. If you have to ask what it is then you suck at life. Sorry Sox, you’ll have to have epic comeback #3 without me.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 9:02 pm
  • Hey Dio, you realize you have 4 outfielders on that list right?

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 9:03 pm
  • Family Guy is on after the office now?’:)

    Brad May 1, 2008, 9:03 pm
  • albasomethingorother has guys on second and third with none out in NY. Inge up.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 9:06 pm
  • That’ll score two!!! A two run triple by Santiago..

    Brad May 1, 2008, 9:08 pm
  • The bullpen can’t go five or six a night. It exposes them too much.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 9:08 pm
  • Of course, our bullpen can’t go one a night, so I guess it all evens out. Near HR by Hill there.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 9:10 pm
  • I just hope that the Sox win the series with the Rays this weekend. Otherwise, that’ll be embarrassing. Although the Rays could totally finish with a better record than these Jays, as good as the Sox have made them look tonight.
    Also, nice to see the Tigers back on top.

    stuck working May 1, 2008, 9:10 pm
  • This is what Boston needs…to see some bullpen guys. I mean, they’ve seen nothing but starters it seems for a week now! And, ones they can’t hit to boot!

    Brad May 1, 2008, 9:11 pm
  • They are letting NY play in some pretty crappy conditions. I think if I was Girrardi, I’d be so worried someone else was going to go down because of the footing.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 9:12 pm
  • Kazmir is slated to make his first start this weekend, so we can go ahead and chalk that up as a loss before it even starts.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 9:13 pm
  • Sorry Brad, the show is LOST. Family Guy is good, but nowhere near the quality of LOST.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 9:13 pm
  • That’s pretty pessimistic, Brad- how can you count anyone’s first start back as a guarantee of anything?

    stuck working May 1, 2008, 9:16 pm
  • Yeah, first starts after returning from the DL are never good.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 9:18 pm
  • Javier Lopez comes in and immediately gives up a hit.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 9:24 pm
  • YEAH Eckstein screws up the hit-and-run.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 9:27 pm
  • Putrid offense, again. Will they ever return?

    SF May 1, 2008, 9:29 pm
  • Timlin time.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 9:30 pm
  • 3 runs feels like 15.

    sf rod May 1, 2008, 9:32 pm
  • “Basbeall is baseball” is my new favorite sentence.

    Adrian-YF May 1, 2008, 9:34 pm
  • yanks have the bases loaded with 2 down. down by two. damon and jeter had infield hits that totaled 30 feet combined.

    sf rod May 1, 2008, 9:35 pm
  • and the tigers get out of it.

    sf rod May 1, 2008, 9:37 pm
  • Manny Ramirez refuses to surrender

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 9:40 pm
  • And of course he strikes out as I type that.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 9:41 pm
  • last hope lies with brandon moss. uhg.

    sf rod May 1, 2008, 9:42 pm
  • What a joke of an offense. F*cking embarrassment.

    SF May 1, 2008, 9:42 pm
  • We’ve got a baserunner, thanks to some strikezone-squeezing by the ump!
    And Miguel Cabrera homers! 8-4 Tigers over the Yanks right now.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 9:44 pm
  • Oh well, we won the series.

    Atheose May 1, 2008, 9:45 pm
  • Hey, the Sox won the series and so long as they do that over the weekend, it’ll be OK.
    And the Tigers go up 4. That helps make it better, too.

    stuck working May 1, 2008, 9:45 pm
  • Weak, Lowrie starting to regress. Passive at-bat there, he wasn’t looking to swing the bat.
    This has been an awful stretch of baseball, to say the least, at least with the bats.

    SF May 1, 2008, 9:52 pm
  • Yeah it has.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 9:56 pm
  • Rod – I’ve made a couple trade requests to you in fantasy, man.

    Brad May 1, 2008, 9:57 pm
  • is this the yankee game thread or the sox?
    hehe ;)

    dc May 1, 2008, 10:00 pm
  • brad- saw them. was waiting to see how the week played out. your boy randy is hot for frucal. i’m not into the hafner deal and am contemplating the tejada deal. now that i know he’s 42 for realzy and bound to simmer down, he’s easier to part with. how about MY matt holliday for your roy halladay?

    sf rod May 2, 2008, 5:40 am
  • Hey sf rod, that Matt Holliday is mine!

    Atheose May 2, 2008, 8:24 am
  • hahaha. How about I sweaten it up, with, say, Varitek…which is still a better option than you have now.

    Brad May 2, 2008, 9:43 am

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