I am late to the party, just like Theo. What did I miss? A solid first inning from David Wells. Yep, DAVID BLEEPIN’ WELLS is pitching for the Sox. Who says there were no deadline moves! Comment away.
by SF on July 31, 2006 at 7:18 pm in
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airk July 31, 2006 at 7:21 pm
We need big series against Cleveland. No punk manuevers in this one.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:22 pm
Paul Byrd reaches his strikeout quota (2) in the first.
airk July 31, 2006 at 7:23 pm
Come on Manny
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:23 pm
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:24 pm
You beautiful lackasadical maniac.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:24 pm
MANNY! 2-Run dinger! Man, he is really on a tear these days.
airk July 31, 2006 at 7:24 pm
I just jacked up the spelling.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:25 pm
There’s the Red Sox MVP. Theo looking like a genius right now!
YF July 31, 2006 at 7:25 pm
Lackasadical = casually depressed? :P
airk July 31, 2006 at 7:26 pm
It will be interesting to see if Lowell stays in the 5-hole for the duration of Trot’s stay on the DL. And, if he does well, if he stays there for the rest of the season.
I'm Bill McNeal July 31, 2006 at 7:27 pm
Manny spent quite a bit of time admiring that one. There any history with Byrd? Or is this about his former club? Or is just Manny being….
YF July 31, 2006 at 7:27 pm
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:29 pm
Sounds good airk
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:29 pm
At times he can be SF. I think we have all accepted those issues.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:30 pm
He’s a living god, always has been, always will be.
LocklandSF July 31, 2006 at 7:30 pm
Hey, who you calling a dumbass, airk!? I thik you missed a comma…
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:30 pm
Any response in NY from Sheff concerning Abreau?
Sheff has no leverage at all now. I think that’s really funny.
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:31 pm
At least he didn’t come out for a curtain call in the 1st, like this other team I know of.
LocklandSF July 31, 2006 at 7:31 pm
SF…where did you get called a DA?
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:32 pm
“At times he can be SF”
I would have typed “At times he can be, SF”.
Sorry, don’t mean to go all Strunk and White on everyone’s ass here…
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:33 pm
Sheff’s response, through his agent, was that he was glad to have Abreu as a teammate, because all he wants to do is win. No complaints with Sheff. He’s been standup since arriving in NY.
No other player quite fills out a uni like Boomer.
That curve looking good.
YF July 31, 2006 at 7:34 pm
My bad….step away from those fumes.
I forget all of the Oxford Scholars we have in here regarding punctuation…LOL.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:34 pm
Damn you Blake….damn you.
Hanger. Bomb from Casey Blake. Curve not looking good. Go away, YF.
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:34 pm
LocklandSF July 31, 2006 at 7:35 pm
Manny stood still and stared at that one, too.
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:35 pm
That’s our pitching staff this year, eh? Looking great except when giving up homers.
airk July 31, 2006 at 7:36 pm
Sheff is gonna have plenty of suitors, esp. if he produces in September. Boston may well be one.
YF July 31, 2006 at 7:36 pm
YF, I am not sure if the Sox would sign him. I think it would be interesting to see him hit 5th after Manny.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:37 pm
Just said on ESPN that Clement will probably not be back this year.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:38 pm
Why would Boston go after Sheff? Not sure where he fits in, YF, particularly if WMP can play just barely competently in right. No DH needed, and a Sheff/WMP platoon seems far-fetched. All bets are off if WMP goes away, of course.
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:38 pm
Walk. There’s your Boomer Barometer. But it’s his first game back, so give him a bit of slack….
YF July 31, 2006 at 7:38 pm
Uh oh. That ball was crushed. Get…someone up. Who the heck is gonna pitch?!?!?
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:39 pm
Maybe we can sign a right arm in the offseason for Coco.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:39 pm
Jeez, wtf was wrong with that first pitch?!
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:40 pm
Sheff, in the lineup, is one of the most productive and feared hitters in baseball. Manny, Ortiz, Sheff, would be absolutely terrifying, and the prospect of said might be enough to induce NY to resign him.
YF July 31, 2006 at 7:40 pm
This Ump has a real picky strike zone.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:40 pm
Now Wells’ strike zone is tiny. This is not likely to end well. 38 pitches already and he probably won’t throw more than 80 if he escapes here.
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:41 pm
Shoppach…..were was that last year when we called him up?
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:42 pm
Jeez, see ya later Boomer. This is a horrible effort – every pitch is just hanging up there, the fastballs have no movement at all. This looks like BP. Al “am I of any use?” Nipper comes out to visit.
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:43 pm
Just stated on ESPN that if Wells is yanked early, Snyder comes in and the Sox will call up Johnson to pitch tomorrow.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:44 pm
I think Sheffield’s risk for additional injury is too great for the kind of money he’ll be asking for. Sammy Sosa, redux.
airk July 31, 2006 at 7:44 pm
Wow, can you say “start checking the Wild Card standings”, Rob?
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:45 pm
Wow, we got an out.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:45 pm
Nice stab by Lowell a rocket by Marte. 2 down.
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:46 pm
Definately time for me to take extreme measures SF. Time to go to voodoo.com and drop a hex on some people (Jeter, Matsui, Sheff, HGH, Halladay, Wells).
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:47 pm
Sheff is a better hitter than Sosa.
SF: It’s Boomer’s first time out. You can’t expect a brilliant outing. Might be worth letting him work through a couple of rough innings.
YF July 31, 2006 at 7:47 pm
They are going to have to, YF. But he just doesn’t look very good, and the Sox can’t really afford to just chuck away games at this point.
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:48 pm
Yeah, its that time of year. Watching the regular standings and the WC standings.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:49 pm
One game to let Boomer work himself back into form? It’s hardly out of reach, and he needs some slack. What’s your option, anyway? Kyle Snyder?
YF July 31, 2006 at 7:50 pm
There are no good options, YF. Boomer gets another 40 pitches, probably.
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:51 pm
There is a drunken bum with a solid right arm sitting on top of the monster.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:51 pm
I’m sure we can get him for a few tickets and an autographed bat.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:52 pm
OK, I need good descriptions now. I am bound to watch Entourage with the wife for the next 25 minutes.
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:52 pm
Looks like Paul Byrd is going to do everything possible to keep the Sox in this thing.
Fun to watch Boomer, whether it’s feast or famine.
YF July 31, 2006 at 7:52 pm
Ok…hook you up.
WMP, why is he not hitting 5th?
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:53 pm
WMP down 0-2 on a foul.
Cora on deck.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:54 pm
WiMPy! Sox back on top!
airk July 31, 2006 at 7:54 pm
Oh man. WMP looks at a strike 3 curve right down the middle, somehow called a ball. WTF?!?
And now he doubles to right center. 4-3 Sox
YF July 31, 2006 at 7:54 pm
WMP hits down the RF line that gets in the alley and bounces around. Loretta and Crisp score, WM with a stand up triple.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:55 pm
Varitek running very gingerly on the basepath
airk July 31, 2006 at 7:55 pm
Yeah, Wily Mo!
All right, Wells. Don’t suck anymore, ‘kay? Limping Varitek?
Devine July 31, 2006 at 7:55 pm
Yes, Varitek, not Loretta.
Check that: it’s a trip for WMP. And he stays at third on the Cora line to left.
YF July 31, 2006 at 7:55 pm
Cora flies out to shallow left, WMP held at 3rd.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:56 pm
WMP! I am relegated to bandwagon posting.
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:56 pm
Luna snags Youk’s line drive.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:57 pm
Youk liner to 2nd. WMP still parked at third for Loretta.
YF July 31, 2006 at 7:57 pm
Johnny Drama just got a ticket.
Oh, sorry. This goes in the “Entourage” thread…
SF July 31, 2006 at 7:57 pm
Loretta pops out…WMP stranded on 3rd.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 7:58 pm
Loretta pops out on the infield. WMP stranded at third after arriving there w/ 0 out.
And here comes the Tribe…..
YF July 31, 2006 at 7:59 pm
Nice 1,2,3 inning needed for Wells.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:01 pm
Michaels down 1-2 to Wells.
He then singles to left.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:02 pm
Haffner to the plate.
Sutcliffe is saying he is seeing leg problems out of Wells.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:03 pm
haffner hits it high off the monster to score Michaels who was waved to stop at 3rd and kept going.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:04 pm
If the relay had been faster in to 2nd from the outfield they had a shot at a play at home.
Martinez with a shot to right to move Haffner from 2nd to 3rd.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:05 pm
Hmm. That bullpen had better get working. Even the outs are rocketed.
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 8:05 pm
Sounds like he’s being hit very softly. Yeesh.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:05 pm
Snyder back up in the pen warming up.
I thought it was a good play by Manny, Rob. Barehanded on the high hop, good, quick throw. I’ve turned off the game because it’s making me sad.
Devine July 31, 2006 at 8:05 pm
yes they are not tapping the ball softly.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:06 pm
Smoked to left, Manny catches over his should, Haffner scores.
Tribe leads 5-4
Wells has thrown 59 pitches in 2 2/3
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:07 pm
Well’s velocity is starting to drop also.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:08 pm
Devine, it was a good play, but the Sox lost sight of Michaels on the base path.
Strikes out Peralta.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:09 pm
I am like a poor crack addict. Any game on here in North Carolina gets watched, regardless of how bad things get.
Do SFs think that Tito keeps his pitchers in too long? Last night and tonight he left his starters in until he was sure the Sox were losing…
Sam July 31, 2006 at 8:10 pm
Yes. It’s his biggest flaw, Sam. He does many things well, but recognizing when to hook guys is not one of his strong suits. Bringing Lester out for the 7th on Friday and letting him explode, with a rested bullpen behind him, was horrible, for a recent example.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:11 pm
Sam..I think that at times he does in trying to keep his eye on the big picture. He cannot always go to the pen early in a game and in order to save the pen for later in the season some of the pitchers have to suck it up.
And Papi smacks one deep to right center. 5-5
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:12 pm
PAPI ties it up. 102 RBIs, baby.
airk July 31, 2006 at 8:13 pm
I am pretty sure that there are a number of pitchers in the Sox’ system who could have given up 5 runs in 3 innings while Wells made one more rehab start to get his system a bit more tuned.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:13 pm
He does though need to have a better understanding though with some of his pitchers when they need to be yanked. SF’s point on Lester is a good case in point.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:13 pm
Rob is right – tonight is a case in point where he may have to squeeze innings. But it’s some of his 6th/7th inning decisions that make me nuts.
SF, that is a definately smart observation.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:14 pm
Lowell pops out for the 2nd out.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:15 pm
Varitek out of the game.
airk July 31, 2006 at 8:15 pm
You can almost see the games that Tito says we have lost. Tavarez pitches, followed by Seanez.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:16 pm
Mirabelli is hitting for Tek. Something is wrong with Tek.
What’s up with Tek? He got yanked early last night too…
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 8:17 pm
Someone from the Yanks come into the clubhouse breathing injury air?
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:17 pm
Whoever predicted that Byrd v. Wells would be a high run total game was dead on. 5-5 already, and we’re not out of the 3rd… At this rate we’re looking at 15-15 going into extra innings.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 8:17 pm
Something with his leg.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:18 pm
A weak day gets weaker. Tek may be struggling this year, but he’s no ‘Belli. God.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:18 pm
Wow, how was the a double? Is there a slower guy on the face of the earth? Steven Hawking would have been on third with that hit.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:19 pm
Mirabelli with a double after getting a second life on a foul out to third that did not get caught.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:19 pm
The Lester case was especially bad. Seventh inning, he gives up two rockets (IIRC) with no out, but leaves him in that extra batter to give up the runs…
Paul SF July 31, 2006 at 8:19 pm
Yes there is a slower runner….seen frank Thomas lately? How about Papi running the bases? Niether of them are exactly Carl Lewis.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:20 pm
I think that was a calf muscle or something. Could be bad…
Sam July 31, 2006 at 8:20 pm
I think that he thought Lester would pitch out of it like he has a number of times. there is definate difference between the 3rd inning and the 7th.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:21 pm
Quick shot of Al Nipper ordering a pizza on NESN. That’s my best guess as to what Nipper does for the Sox.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:21 pm
There is the play on ESPN, Roberts steal that broke a thousand NY hearts.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:22 pm
Good at-bat from Coco here.
Is Snyder hurt out in the bullpen?
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:22 pm
We need Wallace back. Nipper just seems out of his league.
Mirabelli “he of fleet foot” gunned down at home.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:23 pm
Seriously, how slow is Mirabelli? That’s just horrible. Why send a guy when he’s going to be out by 45 feet? DeMarlo Hale gets one demerit for that send.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:23 pm
They haven’t said anything about Snyder being hurt on ESPN.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:24 pm
Saying he was gunned down at home is extremely generous. More like “gunned down at the midpoint between third and home”.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:24 pm
Well, there’s your confirmation of the slowest runner theory… Belli out at the plate after a great AB by Crisp.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 8:24 pm
Not only is he slow, but the slide was terrible.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:25 pm
Wells pitching again. Hold on to your socks.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:26 pm
Snyder up and waiting in the pen
airk July 31, 2006 at 8:26 pm
Really, on that hit, which was reasonably solid, pretty much right to Grady Sizemore (a good fielder), how can you send a guy like ‘Belli? There aren’t many guys on the Sox you send on that play, much less Doug. Bad call. Hale’s been really good this year, so he gets a pass, but that was bad.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:26 pm
Lowell throws out Luna for the 1st out.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:27 pm
Worst pitchers’ duel ever.
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 8:27 pm
It’s more of a doo-dooel.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:27 pm
Maybe Hale was thinking that we need to try to score runs whenever possible tonight. Especially when it looks like everyone is hitting the cover off the ball off both pitchers.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:28 pm
the Curse of the Shoppachino
airk July 31, 2006 at 8:28 pm
Wells strikes out Shoppach.
Andy Marte at the plate.
grounds out to Lowell.
9 pitch inning for Wells.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:29 pm
9 pitch inning. More like that, please.
airk July 31, 2006 at 8:29 pm
Marte with another sharp grounder, right at Lowell. Sox coming up after Wells’ clean inning.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:29 pm
Nice 9 pitch 123 from Wells.
Come on boys, knock a few more in.
LocklandSF July 31, 2006 at 8:30 pm
Wells looked like a big league pitcher that inning.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:30 pm
He was channeling the ghost of Dale Sveum.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 8:30 pm
Don’t say those words Hudson! A pox on you!!
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:31 pm
Why is he not hitting 5th?
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:32 pm
HOLY CRAP HE CRUSHED THAT!!!
LocklandSF July 31, 2006 at 8:32 pm
Wily Mo for Presidente!
airk July 31, 2006 at 8:32 pm
Wily Mo says “stay on the DL, Trot!”.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:32 pm
That ball was absolutely mauled. One of the longer drives I have seen. Ever.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:33 pm
Yeah WMP! That’s good shit. My first late night of many in the office. I just need a respite somewhere.
Devine July 31, 2006 at 8:33 pm
Cora grounds out to Short.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:33 pm
YF, You’re being too hard on the old Boomer. He hasn’t had a minor league rehab. The Sox need to give him 4 or 5 starts before they pronounce him washed up. 1 and 3 with a 5.7 era would be nice. :-)
LouGYF July 31, 2006 at 8:33 pm
Oh shoot, sorry. Didn’t mean to cuss.
Nice vid of Wily Mo’s broken bat near-home run off the wall. Strong man, that Wily Mo.
Youk has been ugly since the break. He hasn’t really been doing to much.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:34 pm
Youk flies out to center.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:35 pm
The injury I was referring to, by the way, was ‘Tek’s. He pulled up running the bases and it looked like a pulled calf muscle. That could spell an absence for a catcher, no? Get used to Belli every day for a wee while…
Sam July 31, 2006 at 8:35 pm
Loretta flies out to left center.
Mo, Mo, [Wily] Mo… How d’you like it!
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 8:35 pm
This is the lineup I want to see.
LocklandSF July 31, 2006 at 8:35 pm
I do not think we have anything worth a crap in the minors at catcher.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:36 pm
15 Mark Wagner
.307 .395 .476 7 C
Our top rated Catcher in the minors who is at Greenville.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:38 pm
Lockland… I’d rather see Lowell bat behind Manny, with WMP sixth… Otherwise I think you’d see Manny walked a ton.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 8:39 pm
Huckaby and Corky Miller at Paw.
I don’t trust anyone named Corky.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:39 pm
[A ton more than he already does with his great eye, that is.]
Cora throws Sizemore out.
Nothing definitive on Tek right now.
They are hearing Knee Strain. Might be related to a plate blocking this past weekend.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:40 pm
Cora with a stupid move throwing the ball allows the runner advance to 2nd.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:41 pm
ESPN reports knee strain for Tek.
Chico’s Bail Bonds rear their ugly heads!
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 8:41 pm
Another bad decision by the Sox. Michaels lumbers into 2nd on the overthrow by Cora on a hit down the line.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:41 pm
silly error on Cora. Didn’t need to throw it to second to hold the runner.
airk July 31, 2006 at 8:41 pm
I’ll say it again Willy Mo Pena is going to be a monster for the Sox
Brian July 31, 2006 at 8:41 pm
Hafner looks like he can hit the ball a long way.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:42 pm
Yeah, my mistake about Tek. I was just going on what I saw.
Anyway, I have no idea why I’m on this thread. Laters.
Sam July 31, 2006 at 8:42 pm
WMP will be a good hitter if he can stay in Boston and work with Manny and Papi.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:43 pm
Sam, did look like he did something to his calf on the replay.
WMP looks like he’s already taken lessons from Manny on how to react after hitting a homer.
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 8:44 pm
Michaels advances to 3rd on groundout to 1st.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:44 pm
SF – Your tone seems really negative tonight, did the no deal at the deadline really take that much wind out of your sails?
We still have a very good team, buck up man.
LocklandSF July 31, 2006 at 8:44 pm
Snyder back up in the pen.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:45 pm
3-1 to Martinez.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:46 pm
Um. Now would be a good time to give Boomer the hook.
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 8:47 pm
Walks Martinez. Runners on 1st and 3rd.
Snyder is ready.
Blake headed to the plate.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:47 pm
That blind faith in pitchers we talked about earlier.
0-1 on knee high strike to Blake.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:48 pm
Damn you Tito.
No, I am just sick (physically, that is). I am not as down on the team as Paul is, I don’t think. I am just realistic: the team to the south improved, we didn’t. That’s not a great thing. Add in Tek being hurt and there’s a little bit of a knife twist.
Meanwhile, Wells is left in to really suck. Thanks, Terry. What a joke of an effort. And Tito sits on his ass, still.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:49 pm
Once again, Terry leaves the pitcher in one batter too many.
…Make that 2 batters too many.
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 8:49 pm
Blake with a 3 run shot.
Peralta hit the next pitch to left.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:49 pm
Now 8-6 Cleveland on a 3-run gopher ball.
95 pitches for Boomer through 4-and-2/3.
This is getting ridiculous. Watch the Sox tie it up in the bottom of the inning.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 8:50 pm
YM – YF, can you guys give it a rest with the Manny admiring his shots crap? You guys give 2nd inning curtain calls, you have known cheaters on your team, you’re in no position to criticize in-game etiquette or player class.
Sorry, but it’s getting as old as the stupid nicknames like Pay-Rod and HGHiambi, etc…
LocklandSF July 31, 2006 at 8:50 pm
Wow, that was a bad job by Wells, compounded by a brain-dead manager. And I don’t think I am being unduly harsh right now.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:51 pm
Right on, Lockland.
Of course when your alternative is Kyle Snyder, maybe you try to stick with the starter for as long as possible…
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 8:51 pm
It would have been nice if Wells had left after this inning with the lead. Tito just nees to look at the standings on the Monster to remember how important each game is now.
Snyder should have been brought in after the walk to Martinez. The crowd went quiet as Blake came to the plate sensing what was going to happen.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:51 pm
Yeah, WTF is Tito thinking there? Maybe he wants to see if Boomer gets out of the inning?
Jeeez gimme a break
Brian July 31, 2006 at 8:52 pm
Crisp catchs the fly to center for the third out.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:53 pm
Lockland, SF: Curtain calls are a product of stupid fans in the stadium, we’ve been through this before. Manny’s HR admirings are a product of him showing up the pitcher and the opposing team. Totally different.
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 8:53 pm
Sox fans give Wells a pretty good round of applause despite the shelling…
airk July 31, 2006 at 8:54 pm
Some of those homerun shots should be admired. It is not natural to hit a baseball 460 feet.
Damn, I admire ground balls I hit to the outfield.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:54 pm
Right there we have a perfect example of bad managing costing a team multiple runs. I know I can come off as overly harsh on Francona, but I want to know why I should give him a pass after a non-decision like that? In what universe was it right to stretch Wells out like that after the way he had been hit? And not pulling him after the dinger and allowing one more hit? I mean, what game was he watching? At what point had he seen enough? It boggles the mind, frankly.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:54 pm
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:55 pm
Who gives a flying f*** if a player watches their homer? I don’t care who does it, Red Sox or not. I only care if it doesn’t turn out to be one, which Manny has done this year.
Devine July 31, 2006 at 8:55 pm
YM: players don’t have to answer curtain calls. Pretty darn simple. Second inning curtain calls shouldn’t be answered. Players who do are asking for it. Just like players who admire their home runs for no good reason other than their monstrous distance.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:56 pm
I am off to bed. Gonna watch sans computer. This game is going to end long after I am asleep, and I can’t afford to get any more ill.
SF July 31, 2006 at 8:57 pm
SF, Some of the earlier discussiion was right in regards to Tito. He sometimes uses his heart in gauging some of his pitchers and not what is happening in the game. Part of the problem when you have a players manager and not a leader manager.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 8:57 pm
SF: Mostly agreed.
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 8:57 pm
Apparently Yankee fans think everyone should be just like Pete Rose — hustle like a banshee on every play, and cheat.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 8:57 pm
Manny just like to play, Manny being Manny, it’s all love, Manny shows up no one show off for his friends…
Brian July 31, 2006 at 8:58 pm
Hey, joo know, I hit the ball har’, mang. I like the way that looks, all pretty flying through the air. Like watching the replay too, mang. It’s like…Manny seeing Manny, joo know?
Devine July 31, 2006 at 9:00 pm
That’s good Devine.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 9:02 pm
Sox go down 1-2-3.
Hysterical it is
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:03 pm
Well off to bed to watch the game. Everyone have a good night.
Rob July 31, 2006 at 9:03 pm
I was inspired by Brian’s stellar effort, thank you, Rob!
Devine July 31, 2006 at 9:03 pm
Hey thanks Devine was a pale imitation of your s
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:05 pm
Y’know you’d think the middle of the order mightve had some answer there might have been nice…
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:06 pm
With the exception of a few certain pitchers that Manny hates, and on those shots he stares at the pitcher not the ball going over the wall, he’s not showing up the pitcher, he just knows it’s long gone.
Curtain calls don’t have to be answered.
None of this is the point though, the point is that’s what Manny does and it hasn’t cost us, I think pitchers know he’s not doing it to show them up.
Manny does that.
Arod is paid a lot.
Giambi once did steroids.
The “RedSux” do not actually suck.
The “Yankees Suck” chant is factually incorrect.
I’m just saying it’s the same as all the other stuff we try to stay away from here, one of the reasons I like this place.
LocklandSF July 31, 2006 at 9:07 pm
Y’know I hate saying this right now, but I like Kyle Synder… middle relief ought to be perfect for him, really
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:10 pm
This is the role Snyder should be in. 5th, 6th inning role. I’m not just saying that ’cause he’s started off right this game, either. He’s good for about two, three innings. Then he totally sucks.
Devine July 31, 2006 at 9:10 pm
Great minds, Brian.
Devine July 31, 2006 at 9:11 pm
shoot me for mentioning anything
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:12 pm
I agree Devine MAX three innings
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:13 pm
Yeah, Lockland, that’s part of why I got into this site. I thought, ah, we can rationally discuss the teams without the stupid claptrap spouted by both sides.
And that’s mostly true, but sometimes tempers run high and people trot out the standard complaints. And that makes me tired.
Devine July 31, 2006 at 9:14 pm
Michaels and Snyder: separated at birth? You be the judge.
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 9:15 pm
But really I think the guy will provide the Sox with great long relief… I just hope Wells can be more effective than this
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:15 pm
Thank YEEEEW strikes out the side
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:16 pm
Personally, I have nothing against rational conversation about the merits of either the Sox or the Yanks it’s the idiots that make it particularly hard to do that.
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:19 pm
Lockland: Agree 100%.
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 9:20 pm
Now why couldn’t Belli have lead off with his double? >grin<
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:21 pm
Hmmm now he needs the double….
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:24 pm
They can’t get Pena out. Look at ‘im go!
(have to take positives somewhere down 2 despite scoring 6)
Headed home from the office. See y’all later (maybe even tonight).
Devine July 31, 2006 at 9:26 pm
Did you guys all bail?
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:26 pm
Pena 3 for 3 on the night. That’s got to be a relief to see him come out on fire.
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 9:26 pm
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:27 pm
Cora suddenly looking the part of a lifetime 240 hitter
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:28 pm
It’s relief that he came back as hot as he was when he left. I’m telling you baring something horrible he will make a huge impact
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:30 pm
Call me crazy, but I have a good feeling about this game. (I’m thinking extra innings and Big Papi, but that’s too obvious.)
Unless it involves Tavarez in any way.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 9:36 pm
That’s the thing that scares me the most about facing the Sox. If Papi and Ramirez have at bats in the final two frames of a game, 2 runs is not an adequate lead.
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 9:40 pm
“baring something horrible”…
Now that’s what I call going on a hot streak.
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 9:41 pm
Double by Ortiz.
2 outs. Manny……..
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 9:42 pm
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 9:42 pm
…… and Manny draws the first Boston walk of the night. (Surprising, that.)
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 9:46 pm
That’s funny Gerb
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:46 pm
Davis begins to implode.
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 9:47 pm
WP, Papi to 3rd, Manny still on 1st.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 9:47 pm
I of course shoulda typed barring but baring something horrible is far funnier
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:49 pm
Wedge took notes on when to pull the pitcher…
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 9:49 pm
Betancourt coming in for Davis, who was mowing ‘em down (3 Ks in 2.1 innings) before the Papi double.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 9:49 pm
Glad to see Davis go…
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:51 pm
Baring Something Horrible…. Wasn’t that the runner-up name for Jeter’s new cologne?
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 9:52 pm
a Lowell hit woulda been nice right there
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:52 pm
Lowell pops out, tying runs squandered. Feh.
Jeter’s new colonge, now that right there….that’s funny
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:53 pm
9-pitch inning for Snyder.
Sox down to six outs.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 9:57 pm
3 and 1/3 nice innings from Snyder so far wish it had been 3 and 2/3
Brian July 31, 2006 at 9:58 pm
WMP is one double away from hitting for the cycle.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 9:59 pm
“Obsession” for fanboys would have worked for Jeter too.
They should do that for a few other Yankees.
Bernie Williams: “Old Spice”
Giambi: “Brut” by Faberjason
Rodriguez: “American, no wait, Dominican, no wait, American, Leather”
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 10:00 pm
Coco “Chanel” Crisp is just too easy.
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 10:01 pm
Funny stuff, Gerb.
Interesting….the ESPN K-zone and the mlb Gameday strikezone are really different.
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 10:02 pm
Belli down on strikes.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:02 pm
Uh…did ESPN just say Sox should’ve trade for Mark Prior????
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 10:03 pm
Damn, he’s back to being Wily Mo K-ena.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:07 pm
They obviously aren’t watching the Cubs playing the Diamondbacks.
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 10:07 pm
bummmer Willy Mo gets rung up
Brian July 31, 2006 at 10:07 pm
And showed him getting lit up by the DBacks right after. Classic.
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 10:07 pm
Hudson, uhhh I’ll take a strikeout… and three for four with three rbi with a .330 ba how bout you?
Brian July 31, 2006 at 10:09 pm
ESPN is really not even pretending, are they….? Sick.
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 10:12 pm
Another good inning for Snyder.
Crunch time, bottom of the 9th.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:14 pm
Did i mention how great a middle reliever I thought Kyle Snyder would make? Yeah… I did
Brian July 31, 2006 at 10:14 pm
Cora gets it going.
That means Papi gets to bat, unless … not going to say it.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:19 pm
It would be fun to introduce Tito Francona to Fausto Carmona.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:20 pm
Just back from dinner now. Come on Cleveland, close it out….
PS: I see the note about Manny admiring his shot touched off quite the flame war. I’m not sure what the big deal is. I just wondered whether there was anything to it beyond his normal strut: does he have something with Bird? Is it about putting one one his old team? Not sure why this is an unreasonable question. Obviously there was a backstory with the Proctor showdown. Was something up here? I guess not.
Youk walks. Come on. TRIBE!
YF July 31, 2006 at 10:22 pm
No outs, 1st and 2nd…
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:22 pm
1 down. But guess who’s up. Odds this thing ends now? Pretty good.
YF July 31, 2006 at 10:24 pm
Loretta pops out, one gone.
Stage set for you know who.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:24 pm
And NESN manages to miss pitch 1. HELLO!
YF July 31, 2006 at 10:25 pm
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 10:26 pm
He did it again.
Check out my prediction a few innings back.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:26 pm
As expected. Ortiz. Propers.
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 10:26 pm
Brian July 31, 2006 at 10:26 pm
Fifth walk-off hit for Papi this year.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:27 pm
airk July 31, 2006 at 10:27 pm
Hudson you are truly prophetic
Brian July 31, 2006 at 10:27 pm
“Never gonna stop.. give it up. m. m. m. myyyyy Carmona!”
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 10:27 pm
YF July 31, 2006 at 10:28 pm
But Papi is GOD
Brian July 31, 2006 at 10:28 pm
C’mon, you could see that coming from a mile away once they walked Youk. Props where props are due.
ESPN booth is going nuts. Remember to breathe, guys…
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 10:29 pm
YF: It’s inevitable with Ortiz. I have given myself over to that. It’s just that old story about how to pitch to Hank: “Make sure no one is on when he hits it out.”
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 10:29 pm
**runs around the streets of Brooklyn singing, “THEY CALL HIM BIG PAPI”**
TJ July 31, 2006 at 10:30 pm
David Ortiz may just wind up being the most beloved Sox player ever (if 2004 didn’t already sew that up). I never thought anyone could eclipse Yaz, but jeebus it is just unbelievable how clutch Papi is. When you think the string has finally run out he produces another giant ball of twine.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:30 pm
I mean really the guy is just ridiculous
Brian July 31, 2006 at 10:30 pm
I blame this on Atlanta. They took Wickman. And they used him to get swept by the Mets. Nice.
YF July 31, 2006 at 10:31 pm
YF: Good point.
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 10:32 pm
How beloved is Yaz anyway? What’s to love? The guy was a tool.
YF July 31, 2006 at 10:32 pm
HOLY F***ING S***!
I DON’T BELIEVE IT!!!
(“It’s just not believable, Cotton.”)
Devine July 31, 2006 at 10:32 pm
Did you hear that? ESPN just had a massive orgasm.
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 10:33 pm
Gerbil: It’s not inevitable. It’s incredible, even having seen it happen time and time again.
All logic and probability would suggest that Ortiz couldn’t possibly keep doing this. But he does.
WWAD? (What Would Arod Do?)
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:33 pm
There is no question in my mind that Papi will go right up there with Yaz and Orr and Bird and Hondo
Brian July 31, 2006 at 10:34 pm
Catch you all later. Tribe, you let me down. Again. Fek.
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 10:34 pm
YF, don’t be an idiot (if ‘ya can help it). Yaz was god in Boston. Last guy to win the triple crown. Played the Monster like no one before or since.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:35 pm
Anyway, that should take the edge off of the we-got-outdone-on-deadline-day sting.
YF July 31, 2006 at 10:35 pm
Uhh Yaz is an icon, period. Please the guy played every inning of his hugely long career in a Sox uniform and while he wasn’t that cuddly he ended up being a lot more approachable
Brian July 31, 2006 at 10:38 pm
i got home from work just in time to see that. unbelievable.
T-sf July 31, 2006 at 10:38 pm
Yes, he was a great player. But didn’t he actually testify on behalf of the owners AGAINST the players union in the early 70s? Hard to get behind a guy like that.
YF July 31, 2006 at 10:38 pm
YF, if you go to a bar in Boston and announce that Yaz was a tool, you’ll be living with a jaw that has to be wired shut for several months.
Speaking of tools, though… Derek Jeter’s new “fragrance is a blend of chilled grapefruit, clean oak moss and spice.”
See, he’s too classy for dirty oak moss.
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:40 pm
Hudson July 31, 2006 at 10:41 pm
I seem to recall something about that union stuff… but really who cares, he gave it his all on the field for decades as a fan you can’t ask for much more
Brian July 31, 2006 at 10:42 pm
Oh, by the way PAI DID IT AGAIN!!!!!! YEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Brian July 31, 2006 at 10:44 pm
Thanks a lot Hudson, you broke teh internets!!!
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 10:44 pm
Uhhhh that should have been Papi
Brian July 31, 2006 at 10:45 pm
Seize you later
Brian July 31, 2006 at 10:46 pm
See what you get for saying not nice things about YF and Derek, Hudson?
Love Yaz all you want. I’m just sayin’, when the players needed to stand together, he was a company man. Doesn’t make him any less of a hero for his play, and obviously the way that stuff was reported back in the day was quite different than today.
I think anyone leaving open code will henceforth be subject to a 1-day ban for the first offense, with escalators for those who repeat. Hudson gets in under the wire.
YF July 31, 2006 at 10:52 pm
I’m back and, despite my better judgement, commenting. Call Jeter a tool if you must. Call him overrated if you want to parrot the least insightful moderation you can make about a player, since “over-rating” is completely external to the player. But the guy has not taken a wrong step (make your own damn slow step to his left joke) in his life, and I am guessing that his perfume will sell, and sell well. I hate perfume. I hate scented laundry detergent. But I know marketing, and this will carry. Silly as it may be.
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 11:08 pm
AG: Hell yeah. I’ve already got my tub capped off with the stuff and let me tell you, I smell sweeter than a freshly mown outfield.
Also, Vanessa Minillo keeps calling my cell. Go figure.
YF July 31, 2006 at 11:15 pm
YF: That’s a fine image for me to carry with me the rest of the night. :) Did you see my other ideas for Yankee fragrances? There’s moolah there, I tells ya.
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 11:19 pm
Okay. Pizza’s ready. Time to deliver to the DF-GF (Detroit fan).
attackgerbil July 31, 2006 at 11:21 pm
AG: I did. But I think you forgot this one:
YF July 31, 2006 at 11:35 pm
If anyone’s still awake, go to wfan.com and listen to the clip of Chris talking to Cashman.
yankeemonkey July 31, 2006 at 11:48 pm
MVP=PAPI, un-fucking-real. Congrats Sox fans. When the Big Man is retired, the Sox will never have a more essential player than that. God help RSN if Big Papi is to suffer a nasty injury in the next 8 weeks. No one will pitch to Manny, and the playoffs will look like a speeding pick-up truck that is speeding off in the distance after your ass fell off the back.
bloodyank78 August 1, 2006 at 12:33 am
YM, I just listened to the Chris Carlin/Cash interview; if I saw Carlin on the street I’d gut him. What a piece of shit that guy is. I envision him as the incarnate of every Yankee fan that boos Arod at the Stadium. What a f’ing bum.
bloodyank78 August 1, 2006 at 12:56 am
God help RSN if Big Papi is to suffer a nasty injury in the next 8 weeks.
Mayday Malone August 1, 2006 at 1:39 am
Yeah Mayday; I want Papi to get an injury. No you stupid shit; I’m trying to emphasize how important he is to your team. That guy goes down, and the Sox are screwed. What do you mean “nice try”? Like I’m trying to will an injury on a guy like Ortiz, who is as good guy as it gets by all accounts? I would love to meet you in person Mayday. I don’t mean anything physical, just to debate w/you eye to eye.
bloodyank78 August 1, 2006 at 1:52 am
YF – Can’t believe I missed that one.
attackgerbil August 1, 2006 at 7:39 am
For better or worse, I don’t know a single Boston fan with any lingering problem with Yaz and the union. Bring Yaz out on the field at Fenway any day of the year and there’ll be a thundering standing O.
Meanwhile, every time Jeter steps to the plate, I hope opposing pitchers aren’t distracted if they get a whiff of chilled grapefruit, clean oak moss and spice.
Hudson August 1, 2006 at 9:03 am
Wow, what an ending. Not the Ortiz thing, but YF starting a flame war by dissing Yaz for testimony on behalf of the owners, in a different era, under different circumstances. Easy criticism with hindsight. The guy was a great player, and most certainly a hero to many fans. I guess the problem is that our town’s hero doesn’t measure up to his: a wife-beating coffee machine salesman who was basically a world class scumbag.
SF August 1, 2006 at 9:07 am
SF: Actually, that’s a point I was about to make myself. There was a time when dissing Joe D in NYC was tantamount to heresy. But I think we’ve all come to a place now where we (or at least educated fans) can appreciate his role on the field, though not his persona off it. I’m wondering why or if Sox fans feel a similar retaking of stock is in order when it comes to Yaz. So, yes, I was being a bit incendiary, but the issue is nevertheless real.
YF August 1, 2006 at 10:13 am
For sure. I think that there was a greater separation between on-field and off-field exploits in earlier times. The web, the mass media, cable outlets, all makes this separation much smaller, and hence we find out about Brett Myers knocking his wife around within hours, for example. We can make on-the-run judgments about whether someone is a “good guy” or not, independent of home runs, no-hitters, and diving grabs.
I do think it’s fair to review history, so Yaz’s off-field doings are fair game in order to give us a better picture of what kind of guy he was, of how he fit into the game as an historical figure, both on and off the field. But that doesn’t necessarily make him less of a baseball hero (if not a real-life hero) to many people, and it certainly doesn’t change what he accomplished on the field or erase childhood memories. Same thing with Joe D.
SF August 1, 2006 at 10:35 am
YF August 1, 2006 at 10:36 am
“No you stupid shit; I’m trying to emphasize how important he is to your team. ”
Ortiz is important to the Red Sox? Well, call up CHB- BY78′s broken a story here.
I was playfully bantering about the fact that you were trying to jinx Mr. Ortiz. Obviously you took it the wrong way. Refilled your xanax prescription recently?
Mayday Malone August 1, 2006 at 2:18 pm
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