No More Drama!

Most of you know that when I started out at this website my original posting name was Triskaidekaphobia, so it's not that I have always disliked Alex.  I could hardly contain my emotions when the Yankees obtained A-Rod from the Rangers.  Then when he chose to wear number thirteen (the number I have had an irrational love of my entire life and wear to this day as a coach) I was on cloud nine.  I spent the first year or so defending him.  Then came the comments about his work ethic.  Come on, you remember the comments.  They were the ones that did not sit very well with Trot Nixon.  Then there was the famous slap at first base, the Jeter sleep over comments, the Mrs. A-Rod t-shirt fiasco and the Scott Boras interruption of the World Series.  The mysterious blond, the HA play, Madonna, kabbalah and so on.  It's been never-ending with Alex, he is a lightning rod for drama.  Off the field (and sometimes on) he has been a major disappointment.  It's easy to sit back and say the Yankees don't pay him for his off the field actions, but as a fan I am truly sick of the constant negative attention he brings to both himself and his team.  Needless to say my transition to John – YF was due mostly in part to my distaste for Alex and his antics.  I like my players much like I like my life, relatively drama free.  Alex has been anything but that.  As luck would have it, Alex is at it again, rehashing the same debate he had prior to the first World Baseball Classic.  Dominican Republic or United States?  This time around it appears that he has chosen to play for the DR, according to David Ortiz.  Pete Abraham's take on it is spot on "between now and the start of the WBC, he’ll change his mind several
more times (as he did in 2006) if only to keep the story going."  This has nothing to do with patriotism, I don't care who he plays for.  It's the fact that it's one more story to add to the nonstop drama that is Alex Rodriguez.                 

27 comments… add one
  • So you’re basing this on what ortiz said? Pete’s getting raked over the coals in the comments, and he should be. Pathetic reporting.

    jake December 5, 2008, 2:15 am
  • No drama unless the media decides to create it. He’s playing for the DR. There’s a press conference scheduled for Monday to show the uniform the DR team will be wearing and they have asked him to attend.
    In 2006, he signed up tp play for the DR. Selig wanted him to play for USA because the WBC was getting no support in the US. He said he was sitting it out to avoid controversy and instead it incited it. He agreed to play for USA as a favor to the union and then the media hung him out to dry for flip flopping when Selig was the one who asked him to in the first place.

    mickey December 5, 2008, 4:41 am
  • Seriously, a guy like Abraham complaining about drama is like Larry Flynt complaining about porn. The man lives to hype and recycle it.
    Still, why do so many truly great players (i.e. first ballot HOF) suffer from this disease? Manny and A-Rod are arguably the best players of their generation and both show the dichotomy albeit with different outward symptoms. Among the best pitchers of this generation, Randy Johnson couldn’t deal with NY, Clemens obviously has issues, Pedro is batshit crazy, and Maddux never wanted the spotlight. Ricky H – the best payer of the 80’s – is a social moron but will still be a first ballot HOFer. Going back a few more generations, Teddy Ballgame was roundly detested (costing him a few MVP awards) and DiMaggio predated A-Rod in being a compete dolt off the field.
    The only exception seems to be Jeter. He’s a first ballot HOF but with little problem handling the spotlight. But that’s a true rarity. I can’t think of another in the free agent era who endured the harshest spotlight and still came through unscathed. Guys like Ripkin and Gwynn seem all right, but then we never got a good look at them under the glare of the microscope.

    Dave SF December 5, 2008, 6:51 am
  • Using my standard, there are some recent first-ballot HOFers that would seem to apply but I’m not sure. Eckersley, Eddie Murray, Winfield and Boggs had their problems – from drugs to mistresses to the media. Molitor, Ozzie, Yount, Puckett, Carew, and Palmer never had a big harsh spotlight day after day. Ryan, Brett, Jackson, Seaver, Morgan, and Schmidt were complete tools.
    It looks like you have to go back to Carlton and Bench and Yaz to get guys who were top of their games but didn’t really piss people off while they were under the brightest of lights. It’s interesting though that their careers pretty much ended before the big money came into play.

    Dave SF December 5, 2008, 7:09 am
  • I understand the details of the first WBC. I also understand that for almost all of A-Rods drama the blame could be passed to someone else. Boras and the interruption, the first WBC, but at the end of the day it’s HIS drama. Nothing is slam dunk easy off the field for him, he has the opposite of the Midas touch when it comes to his public life. He’s “The Mush” for lack of a better term. You can defend Alex all you’d like, I can’t blame you foe that. I did it for many years. Eventually though you have to take a step back and wonder why drama is always surrounding him, big or small.

    John - YF December 5, 2008, 8:17 am
  • “Eventually though you have to take a step back and wonder why drama is always surrounding him, big or small.”
    I did this years ago.
    1.) He’s the highest-paid player in the game.
    2.) He’s one of the best baseball players of all time, in his prime.
    3.) He plays for the New York Yankees.
    4.) He’s a weird dude.
    If one of those things weren’t true, there wouldn’t be nearly as much drama. Not a very large price to pay to watch one of the best players ever play for your team. And frankly, it just ups the entertainment value for me. As long as he’s not shooting himself in the leg or banging women off of his car hood, he can do what he wants and it doesn’t bother me in the least.

    AndrewYF December 5, 2008, 8:31 am
  • John
    The answer for most dramas- whether on the big screen or in peoples lives is usually the same- you always follow the money.
    I’ve learned that as long as his drama (his not mine) doesn’t effect his effort (notice I said effort not results) I say go A-Rod!
    I doubt the media injecting a little drama into the lives of an 85 RBI hitters would turn himm into a 110 RBI hitters so I’ll just keep supporting (you can call it defending if it makes you feel less guilty about bailing on a Yankee, if you like) the guy who can do that, drama and all.
    Because in the end, sports should be about W’s and not boos.

    mickey December 5, 2008, 8:38 am
  • What he does on the field absolutely trumps what he does off the field, no argument there. I also won’t argue that he’s a “weird dude” as you called him. The only part I will argue is that it’s because he plays in NY. Sure it’s definitely a bigger stage, with more intense reporters, but if Pujols was a Yankee I don’t think we have to endure this same constant off the field malarkey and we’d get similar/to greater production. To go along with him being a “weird dude” Alex also comes across as a yes man, doing things to try and please others and make a good impression. I am sure it’s very hard being Alex, I don’t doubt that, but at some point he has to help himself.
    “No drama unless the media decides to create it. He’s playing for the DR.”
    No, if he plays for DR he created his very own drama. Did he think this time around it would sneak by everyone and nobody would notice? No matter how many times you touch the stove it’s going to be hot right? So why keep on touching it?

    John - YF December 5, 2008, 8:45 am
  • “Because in the end, sports should be about W’s and not boos.”
    I have already said there is a difference between on the field Alex and off the field Alex. Alex is paid to produce on the field and he most certainly does. Alex also does not need me or any other Yankees fans to like/accept him in order for him to keep on being one of the best players in the game. My point and it somehow keeps getting missed, is that I personally do not like the drama that comes along with being a fan of A-Rod. I am a season ticket holder, I root for him when I am at games. I do not boo him, he’s a Yankee.

    John - YF December 5, 2008, 8:55 am
  • As a Sox fan I find Alex endlessly entertaining. Seriously, a guy who is all-world, who makes more money than one could ever spend, trots around town with Madonna, pulls not-even-approved-for-Little-League stunts in Major League games, perhaps makes up stories about saving kids from oncoming traffic in order to boost his PR image, I mean, what is not to love about this guy?
    Then again, I don’t think sports would be as engrossingly entertaining without at least a small (very small, just to be clear, I am no sociopath) quotient of leg-selfshootings and pop-star cuckolding. I mean, what Sox fan doesn’t remember, with a little smile, the stories about Mo Vaughn going to the Foxy Lady packing heat? It’s all part of the narrative, unavoidable. These are human beings with flaws (and tons of cash). Bad (or good) mix, depending on your perspective.
    For the record, I don’t boo Alex either.

    SF December 5, 2008, 9:06 am
  • “No, if he plays for DR he created his very own drama. Did he think this time around it would sneak by everyone and nobody would notice? No matter how many times you touch the stove it’s going to be hot right? So why keep on touching it?”
    What has A-Rod done wrong, here? He wants to play for the DR, so he tells David Ortiz he’s going to play for the DR. The only reason it’s drama is because MLB tugged him around last time because there weren’t enough good US players. I guess if you blamed him for the drama last time, you can blame him this time because in your mind he’s created the drama forever. But if you didn’t blame him for it last time, how can you possibly complain this time?

    AndrewYF December 5, 2008, 9:06 am
  • At first I thought this thread was about how HBO could fix “Entourage”.

    SF December 5, 2008, 9:25 am
  • much about nothing…i can’t decide who enjoys arod “drama” more [he likes the attention], or the folks that seem so titillated reporting it and talking about it…ooooh, guess what arod did now?…ooooh…this one [who to play for] is no biggy…so he wants to play for the dr…what’s the hidden message some folks want to take from that, that he’s somehow unpatriotic?…sheesh…i’ve got some irish in me…so, ignoring for the moment that i have zero athletic skills, i’m a big nobody, and my life is not tabloid-worthy, if i announced that i was interested in playing in the world [insert sport] tournament for the homeland of my ancestors, would it be controversial?…would i be considered unpatriotic?…unlikely, so i’ll just chalk up this latest arod “news” for what it is: another cheap shot at the “weird dude”…

    dc December 5, 2008, 9:49 am
  • I thought I made it clear that for me at least it had nothing to do with patriotism. As for it being much to do about nothing, that’s your opinion/call DC.
    Andrew, my problem is it’s another decision that will be scrutinized to no end, bringing only more drama to Alex’s life. Like I said nothing is slam dunk easy with this guy. Playing for the US was the easy road, after all he really has no ties to DR other than his parents being born there. It just seems like when posed with two questions Alex always chooses the Calculus problem over the simple addition.

    John - YF December 5, 2008, 10:06 am
  • “At first I thought this thread was about how HBO could fix “Entourage”
    Hysterical! Nothing to fix now though, as long as JLS is on the show we are all good!

    John - YF December 5, 2008, 10:06 am
  • “My point and it somehow keeps getting missed, is that I personally do not like the drama that comes along with being a fan of A-Rod.”
    That sounds like a personal problem and I don’t get caught up in the drama of other peoples personal problems. Sorry you feel unheard but please don’t let that effect your posts.
    See what I did there? I didn’t let your drama of feeling unheard take away from my enjoyment of this blog. You can’t change other people so you’ll have to change you or just be frustrated because the media likes drama. They create it for profit.
    Piazza played for Italy last time and no one blinked. That was more calculus than this because Alex has lived in the DR and Piazza had never visited Italy. Follow the money.

    mickey December 5, 2008, 10:23 am
  • I think you are over simplifying it Mickey. I don’t seek out Alex for the details, he’s the one on the front page 24/7. I am not “caught up in the drama of others.” When you are hit over the head with said problems for 4 years, it’s much more than being caught up. As for Alex/Piazza comparison it’s not accurate. Piazza would have NEVER played for the US, so he went elsewhere. Alex isn’t playing for DR for the playing time. In addition go it’s so much deeper than just the decision, it’s the side show that came with it last time. He waivered initially last time and was far from definitive. He was looking to make the most socially acceptable move (as he seems to do quite a bit) rather than what makes him happy. If playing for DR made him happy he should have done it the first time. But his problem is he tries to make everyone happy and make the right move all the time. Now that he has already made the decision to play for the US during the initial time through, this decision only makes him look bad. And like Pete Abe, I don’t think this will a definitive answer from Alex. If I had to guess there will a side show accompanying this decision as well.

    John - YF December 5, 2008, 10:35 am
  • To some degree, ARod does make his own bad luck – there’s just so many “bad timing” things that happen.
    But fact is, it seems like everyone goes through this in NY, at least unless they win a championship (even then, maybe not). Look at Eli Manning, for example..
    And at least he’s not stupid enough when he’s off the field to cause trouble on – look at Burress.
    Also, it’s amusing, and possibly “distracting”, but I don’t think it affects the Yanks clubhouse all that much..

    Lar December 5, 2008, 11:16 am
  • Хорошая тема, сколько вокруг непознанного!

    GerardFZ December 5, 2008, 11:36 am
  • ARod 2009 AL MVP
    I’m done with all the other stuff. He is our best player hands down. I’m going to ignore the distractions (like he will this year) and just root like hell for the guy. I’m tired of defending him to my Sox friends…i’m just so tired.

    krueg December 5, 2008, 12:00 pm
  • I’m tired of defending him to my Sox friends
    Sox friends? Seems like your Yankee friends might need some convincing first, before making this about us!

    SF December 5, 2008, 12:08 pm
  • Only have 1 YF friend and a YF wife…all the rest are SF’s that love to rip on ARod. Isn’t my life grand??? :)

    krueg December 5, 2008, 1:00 pm
  • “Хорошая тема, сколько вокруг непознанного!”
    Exactly!
    Wait… Huh?

    LocklandSF December 5, 2008, 1:28 pm
  • Nice post, John. I entirely sympathize, as my pre-trade post about Ramirez can attest. Intellectually, you can know much — if not most — of the drama is not the player’s fault, but at some point you find yourself just feeling fatigued by the mention of his name…

    Paul SF December 5, 2008, 1:50 pm
  • I’m a mom with 4 kids- 14 yr old twins, a 10 yr. old and a 7 year old, a husband, a dog, a full time job and lifelong Yankee obsession. There is no such thing as oversimplifying. Keeping it simple is a survival mechanism. I can block drama with the best of them.
    I want Alex to play for the DR. What better way to get tuned up for the season than working out and taking BP with Manny and Pujols for a few weeks! The US team has Chipper, Wright and Longoria for 3rd and the DR would probably start Beltre in Alex’s absence and he’s recovering from shoulder surgery and is a question mark for WBC. Win/Win all around.

    mickey December 5, 2008, 4:37 pm
  • zzzzzzzzz
    my point john, was that this arod shit is getting very boring…past tedious…not your fault…i saw your disclaimer about you not thinking it’s a patriotism issue…that’s cool…i believe you…but that’s not what everyone’s thinking, or there’s no story…that’s my point…i wasn’t talking about you…i’m talking about the ambulance chasers who can’t wait for the next michael jackson/britney spears/amy winehouse/[insert bizzare celeb here] moment, even if they have to hallucinate a controversy with arod…unfortunately, they may not recognize themselves as “titillationists”…that, and arod will always be punished for not being jeter…either way, some folks seem to take delight in his misery…anyway, in response to another theme of this thread, i’ll boo arod whenever i feel like it, not for being a “weird dude”, but for a lack of effort or concentration [my perception], it’s my right, along with booing every other yankee that disappoints me with underachieving…they get paid very well, by me and others, for putting up with it…if they show some effort, i’ll give them my support…

    dc December 5, 2008, 8:57 pm
  • We’re all guilty here, obviously. Alex, Pete, John, you and me.
    A-Rod has made a decision. Pete has reported that decision because any A-Rod news is news people will pay attention to. Similary, John has a pulpit, and he’s fueled A-Rod controversy (which he lumps into drama) using it. You and I comment on the story, reinforcing the idea that this is something worth talking about.
    Really, though, AndrewYF had it right. If this weren’t NYC, if he didn’t play for the Yankees, this wouldn’t be an issue. A-Rod is certainly part of the equation, but take A-Rod out of NYC and pay him half the salary and he could make every decision he’s made to date and you know what it would amount to?
    FUCK ALL.

    Statler [YF] December 8, 2008, 9:44 pm

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