Not Much To Say

How the Red Sox can still win this series:

  • Hit better
  • Pitch better
  • Manage better

Other than that, they’re fine.

12 comments… add one
  • Yeah, less said, the better.

    Hit Dog October 14, 2008, 9:49 am
  • paul, you forgot one:
    “show up” [i almost said ‘cowboy up’, but i wanted this to be sort of serious]…if the real sox team shows up, we have a series…
    as for you and your other colleagues, come on man, pull yourself up…you’re a proud sox fan…all this gloom and doom, and you’re only down 2-1 with 2 more games at fenway…things seemed more comfortable and natural when you were cocky, just several posts/days ago…this new paul makes me feel uneasy…look, if nothing else, learn from history…if i remember right, the sox were pasted something like 19-8 in ’04 by the yankees who were on their way to a 3-0 lead in the alcs…we all know what happened…i know, different players, different competition, odds against it, but some of the core sox are the same…and last year they had a comeback from 3-1 against cleveland…you’ve convinced me that it’s not about manny, bay’s been great, so i see no reason the sox can’t pull off another comeback if they start hitting…pitching?…yep, dice-k is the shakiest shutout pitcher i’ve ever seen, something is wrong with beckett, and lester looked mortal for a change, with the knucklehead on the mound tonight…well, i’ve seen wake enough over the years, that if the right one shows up, he can be a master, especially against young hitters…let it play out buddy, don’t give up just yet…you know i’m rooting against the sox, no secret there, but honestly, i’ve felt the way you’re feeling, and i’ve got a little compassion for you [that’s why i stayed away from last night’s gamer]…strange as it sounds, i’d much rather be where i am for a change [hopefully not to become a habit]…once the frustration over the regular season subsided, i’ve been more relaxed for these playoffs than i’ve ever been…i actually think it’s good for yf’s and the team to have their a$$ handed to them in the regular season…our critics say that we were spoiled by the string of division titles…yep…there are other teams out there besides our 2 that are capable of winning…don’t hate me for saying this, but some of you guys have been spoiled by how easy winning was in ’04 and ’07…

    dc October 14, 2008, 10:47 am
  • We think the Sox are the better team, we think they are going to win: we’re homers, hopelessly biased. We think the Sox are not as good as their opponent, that they may well lose: we’re gloom and doomers.
    Is there any in-between? Where does “realist” fit into this equation?
    The Sox aren’t likely to win this series, I am already used to this idea, though I don’t like it and hope to be wrongheaded in this thought. But I am not morose. The Sox have had a good season, and it might still end up with the ultimate success (though my own doubts may exceed those of other SFs, such is fandom). But realistically it sure doesn’t look good at the moment. What’s wrong with admitting that? No pep talk needed from anyone, though I appreciate the empathy. One thing is needed, only: a win today by my team.

    SF October 14, 2008, 11:40 am
  • I’m with DC on this one, SF, and I think he’s responding to comments like this:
    “Ath, the Sox are playing a better team. They are not likely to come back. Sorry, don’t see it. The offense has FIVE dead spots, if you count Ellsbury and Ortiz (I think Ortiz’ wrist is f*cked, frankly, I won’t be shocked if he has surgery like a week after the last game of the season). I don’t see a comeback, in this game or in the ALCS. Call me a fatalist, but I see too many flaws to overcome Wake or Beckett’s next start, if it even gets that far”
    Before this series began the run of discussion here was that the Sox were the better team, marginally. Now, after THREE games, 1 a win, you’ve conceded that title. A split three games, 1 lost in extras, hardly seems a reasonable sample to make such determined conclusions. It’s ridiculous. You pretend toward “rationality” by examining the holes in the Sox order, but you don’t provide any similar context for the rays, who are hardly great 1-9, and don’t they have to “overcome” kazmir’s next start?
    Obviously the Sox are in a hole, and odds are against them, but I think DC’s point is valid.

    YF October 14, 2008, 1:41 pm
  • I’d also like to defend Dick-K, while I’m at it. His “lucky” wrap is starting to have a Wang-ian stink. He’s been pitching with great effectiveness in terms of run prevention for 2 years now, and for a long time in Japan. Yes, he walks a lot of guys. But obviously he’s doing things that control for that problem. You can’t be lucky for that long in MLB. At some point, you’re just good. He’s not Aaron Small. There’s a reason he cost $100 million.

    YF October 14, 2008, 1:45 pm
  • Look, YF, I picked the Rays in 7 games. Now with Beckett looking more hurt than rusty, with the Rays’ pen doing a stellar job and Ortiz also continuing to really struggle, my general assessment of the series result stands. If this trend of play continues the Sox will lose, and it won’t go seven. But it might not. It might reverse itself, I could be wrong. But MY OPINION BASED ON WATCHING THE GAMES IS WHAT I POSTED ABOUT. What’s your point, exactly? That a series can be turned around? No sh*t, Sherlock. Thanks for the sage advice.
    If I just posted “all is well!”, which I haven’t done, I’d be open to calls of homerism. Why are you suddenly in the “black or white” crowd? What have I posted over the last few days that is willy-nilly, not based on real concerns about the Sox’ health and/or positional weakness? Seriously, where do you get off? Go back to leaflooking.

    SF October 14, 2008, 2:08 pm
  • It’s been a long time since we had a good YF/SF scrum here. Where’s the popcorn? :-D
    For my part, I’m pretty down about the team’s chances, while fully understanding they looked bad last year around this time and even worse in 2004 at this time. I also understand that if Tito had pulled Beckett earlier, the Sox likely would be up 2-1, with arguably the exact same performances from everyone, and we would be dismissing yesterday as an aberration. We might still be concerned about Beckett, but winning has a way of erasing those concerns.
    The Red Sox played very well in Game 1, the bats did very well in Game 2, and we were going to lose yesterday no matter how Lester pitched (unless he was going to throw a no-hitter). The problem isn’t so much that the Sox are down, 2-1. It’s that they’re down, 2-1, with Tim Wakefield on the mound today. The Sox’ strength entering this series was supposed to be starting pitching, and it has been dismantled. I think that’s where a lot of the “doom and gloom” is coming from.
    If Wakefield does what no one expects and pitches decently tonight — which would be the first October start in five years that he has done so — then the whole series changes again. So we’ll see, but I’m not optimistic, at this point.

    Paul SF October 14, 2008, 2:20 pm
  • Dick-K? Yeesh, the guy can’t even catch a break when someone’s defending him.
    I wanted to say something similar when Lester was described before Game 3 as “the only Sox pitcher who can be trusted.” I held my tongue then, but I wanted to ask when Matsuzaka will be trusted. That’s an honest question, I’m not trying to denigrate any Sox pitcher or SF commenter. I won’t claim that Matsuzaka is a 100% shut-down ace or anything like that, but that label is nomadic anyway.

    FenSheaParkway October 14, 2008, 2:22 pm
  • “Why are you suddenly in the “black or white” crowd?”
    Wow. In the immortal words of Morris Buttermaker (who probably would’ve pulled Beckett), let’s not bring race into this.
    I’m simply echoing DC’s point that this series is long from over, and 3 games, 2 close, isn’t a good sample to make any difinitive claims as to the “better team.” But whatever. The Sox are in trouble, no doubt about that. See: We can agree!!!

    YF October 14, 2008, 2:27 pm
  • The Sox are in trouble, no doubt about that
    I should have just posted that. Basically all I was saying.

    SF October 14, 2008, 2:32 pm
  • The Sox are in trouble, no doubt about that
    I should have just posted that. Basically all I was saying.

    Yah, SF. You *totally* rambled on way too much in your original post. Just get to the point already!
    PS: Papi, please get a hit. Please? Pretty please?

    DUFF - SF October 14, 2008, 3:17 pm
  • I was wondering if anyone believes in destiny?
    http://www.GodYesOrNo.com

    Prophecy October 25, 2008, 8:52 am

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