Pants on Fire!

In the course of publicly announcing his firing of Scott Boras yesterday, Mark Teixeira couldn't help but drop a little honesty:

Scott did a great job getting me my contract. I wanted to be in New York from the beginning, and everything that I’ve asked for has come through so far. 

Can we finally dispose of the idea that "all things being equal" the Sox had a chance at Mark Teixeira?

(we should also add that Teixeira sounds utterly reasonable, thoughtful, and mature in explaining why he is now dropping Boras)

 

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  • While that would be awfully convenient, why are we taking professional athletes at their word when talking about what team they *really* wanted to play for? Of course Mark would say that, he has everything to gain and nothing to lose.
    I can just as easily (and validly) say that if good old John Henry hadn’t applied his snake-oil salesman ‘charm’ to the Teixeira gang (and somehow really pissed him off to the point that he refused to sign), Tex would be saying the exact same thing about the Sox. Something about how he really wanted to sign with them when they drafted him, and that the current FO righted all the wrongs of the previous one.
    Come on now, people.

    AndrewYF March 3, 2011, 9:15 am
  • I really have to side with the “athletes will always say good stuff about the team they currently play for” guys on this one. It’s plausible that Teix had chosen New York from the start and wouldn’t have gone anywhere else, but him saying “I wanted to be in New York from the beginning” to the media means absolutely nothing to me.

    Atheose - SF March 3, 2011, 10:07 am
  • Well, there’s Teixeira introductory press conference, where his own timeline placed the moment he made his decision to sign with the Yankees before the date he met with the Red Sox.
    So his comments here actually match perfectly with his previous comments, which happen to coincide exactly with the Red Sox’ version of events, which is that they never had a chance to sign him.
    him saying “I wanted to be in New York from the beginning” to the media means absolutely nothing to me.
    Yes and no. In an introductory press conference or something similar? Sure, that’s just pablum. This isn’t that context, more than a year after he signed the contract. He could have said, “Scott got me the contract I was looking for,” or, “Scott helped me land with the perfect fit for me,” etc. There are many ways to express pleasure with your situation without using phrases like that… unless those phrases are actually true, of course, and align exactly with the specific timetable of your decision making that you’ve already described.

    Paul SF March 3, 2011, 12:45 pm
  • I am just curious because apparently I have amnesia re: this topic…Why does it matter if the Red Sox did or did not have a chance to sign him and if the Yankees were or were not his first choice? (Again, this is 100% honest I have no idea why this is a big deal but I am guessing there were past discussion re: this topic.)

    John - YF March 3, 2011, 12:52 pm
  • The Red Sox have generally taken a lot of flak in the Boston press for being penny pinchers on the deal. “If they’d only spent XX more on Teixeira, they’d have him instead of the Yankees,” yadda yadda. I’ve long argued this isn’t true because Teixeira himself at his press conference said he had spoken with his wife and they decided he wanted to go to New York at such and such a time, which preceded the now-infamous meeting with Epstein and Henry.
    This reared its ugly head again this offseason when Victor Martinez went to Detroit and also when it was briefly and erroneously reported that the trade for Adrian Gonzalez was dead.

    Paul SF March 3, 2011, 12:59 pm
  • In re: to Tex as much as I’d love to believe he wanted to be a Yankee because it’s where his heart is…I find it much easier to believe that he wanted to be a Yankee because it’s where the most money was and where he could make the most long term. So I’d have to agree with you Paul. This probably had zero to do with Boston not going far enough, but rather all to do with Tex wanting the most money possible in what will probably be his next to last contract.

    John - YF March 3, 2011, 1:12 pm
  • So if this is the case, what’s with all the Sox fans labeling Teixeira a ‘mercenary’?
    In my mind, if he *really* wanted to play for the Yankees all along, then he should be venerated, just like Cliff Lee, for going with his heart to the only team he really wanted to play for.
    Good to know that section of Sox nation has no ill will towards Tex! :P

    AndrewYF March 3, 2011, 4:36 pm
  • I don’t care where Tex plays any more (I did when the Sox missed out on him and for a year after!). I only post this because of what Paul refers to, the idea that the Sox didn’t “go the extra mile”. It seems like there wasn’t an extra mile to go. Tex earned the right to choose his city, his team, his contract. I harbor no ill will towards any player who earns their free agency and makes a personal decision.
    I do wish they’d shut up sometimes, though, and this goes for any player with any kind of laundry. Only we fans should get to rant!

    SF March 3, 2011, 5:04 pm
  • I think there’s ill will anytime you, as a fan, think you have a decent shot to get a player, and then it all goes horribly wrong as that did. That’s just the emotions of rooting for a team.
    But with the space of a year-plus, no, I don’t harbor ill will toward him. I believe fully that Boras and Teixeira had a number that would have trumped Teixeira’s desire to go to New York, and if the Sox had met that number, he would have indeed gone to Boston. I suspect that’s the number they have Henry and Epstein, which was what led Henry to say the Sox had no shot, so extravagant it was. So, in one sense, yes, the Sox *could* have had Teixeira, but at a far greater cost than the usual lazy “Yanks offer minus Sox offer equals amount the Sox would have had to pay to get Teixeira.”
    In the end, they only needed the Sox to be interested enough to extract as much as possible from the Yankees. Boras is very good at doing that; he got Teixeira in the uniform he wanted at the price he wanted. Can’t blame a guy for using free agency to control his own destiny. That’s what it’s there for.
    That said, I hope he sets a record by striking out 600 times next year.

    Paul SF March 3, 2011, 5:28 pm

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