Perspective

You guys will be fine…we’re meeting in the ALCS. Mark it down.

The only thing I can think of that sucks worse than this is the morning I woke up and found that my shoe was full of puke. My puke.

I think the sox probably will make the playoffs and they are still in the division race based on the number of games they and the yanks still have to play, the west coast challenges the yanks still face, and the fact that an injury to one of the Yanks’ top 3 would be disastrous. Having said that, if Boston doesn’t catch the Yanks I don’t think it is at all a foregone conclusion that they will finish ahead of either Tampa Bay (esp give how well TB plays them) or Texas.

“All is not lost.”
Famous last words uttered by the captain of the Titanic … or was that the Hindenburg.

Hey, we did add a qualifying “yet” to our proclamation!

Just read Nick Cafardo’s column in today’s Globe.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2009/08/09/frustration_also_getting_best_of_red_sox/
He touches on the plunkings.
Without a doubt, to me, without the ability to read anyone’s mind, Melancon threw at Pedroia, Buchholz threw at ARod and Ramirez threw at Tex and ARod.
Now that Saturday’s game is done and my head is a bit cooler …
Here’s what I hate about it:
-This throwing at people shit is juvenile. Pitching inside is one thing; up and in is something else. You go up there, you’re a jackass.
-The bullshit responses from teammates and managers. The offending team pretends to be innocent one night (deny, deny, deny), then raises hell after the retaliation. And vice versa. Gimme a break. Just shut the hell up.
-MLB makes the problem worse. Bob Watson’s history of meting out uneven punishment is an embarrassment. He’s never explained himself, he’s never explained why so-and-so gets nothing and the other guy gets five games.
That said, I have no idea how to fix it. There’s always gonna be some testosterone-filled, overgrown juvenile delinquent (Pedro, Joba, Clemens) who thinks, “I’ll show them,” discounting the repercussions down the road.
There. I’ve vented. And solved nothing.

Cristian.
Ack.
I liked this site better when we could go back and fix our typos.

And if there are retaliation tonight,there’s the possibility of an unwarned ejection-unless of course both benches are warned before the game-and a possible(there you go,krueg)benches clearing brawl,or a benches clearing mess in the infield area at least.

This is simply from stats standpoint which I found interesting. Box scores do not count the “thrown at” obviously, but here goes the offical HBP:
4/24
Texiera hit by Lopez
Tek hit by Chamberlain
Green hit by Albaladejo
4/25
Youk hit by Burnett
Green hit by Veras
4/26
Bay hit by Melancon
5/4
Drew hit by Aceves
Jeter hit by paps
5/5
Bay hit by Chamberlain
Baley hit by Albaladejo
6/9
Bay hit by Veras
6/11
ARod hit by Penny
8/6
Pedroia hit by Melancon
8/9
ARod hit by Ramirez
Boston has hit 4 batters to NY’s 10. This obviously doesn’t count the “chin music” pitches.
I dont agree with throwing at people, especially when a little white ball is moving at 90+ mph.
If the argument for retaliation is being used, then the Sox are few behind. 6 in fact, which possibly could be the number of games back in the standings they could find themselves in if the lose tonight.

I am assuming that is in jest?

Well any “tally” depends on how far back you wanna go. This is the first year snce at least 2003 where the Yankees have hit more Red Sox than vice versa (source: http://soxblog.projo.com/2009/05/do-sox-pitchers.html):
-2004: Red Sox hit 18 Yankees; Yankees hit 15 Red Sox
-2004 ALCS: Red Sox hit 7 Yankees; Yankees hit 1 Red Sox
-2005: Red Sox hit 10 Yankees; Yankees hit 6 Red Sox
-2006: Red Sox hit 7 Yankees; Yankees hit 6 Red Sox
-2007: 9 hit batsman for each team.
-2008: Red Sox hit 14 Yankees; Yankees hit 9 Red Sox
So the Yankees still have 11 hit batsmen to go before we’re even.

Just got off a 13 hour flight for a stop over in the Taipei airport. It’s rainy outside. What’s the news in the baseball world today? Are the Yanks and Sox still beaning each other?

Stupid facts Mark. Besides, we only raise the references to Conigliari when it’s Joba or Clemens on the mound. If it’s countless Boston pitxhers we start compiling stats with the only specifically delineated dates that would make thm appear to be more on the recviving end. So glad no one was bothered by Bucholz’s clear as day headhunting this weekend. Now I don’t have to hear it when it’s done by someone wearing the opposing team’s jersey.

It’s “Conigliaro”, by the way. He played around the same time as when Mickey Mantell was finishing up.
It’s funny when Yankee fans get all indignant that someone “headhunted” (didn’t see the game, so I honestly don’t know if he did) but get all huffy when someone talks about their own doing it.
Puh-leeze. This is baseball. Both teams act like cretins at times. Maybe yesterday was our turn, I have no idea, I didn’t see it. I wouldn’t be surprised, though, if you told me a Sox threw at a Yankees player. Or vice versa.

So we can agree SF that hypocritical “huffiness” as you put it is really annoying. I’ll watch mine if you watch yours.

So we can agree SF that hypocritical “huffiness” as you put it is really annoying
Yes. It is annoying. I recall Joba throwing at someone earlier this year and my reaction was that it was a colossally stupid thing to do, not because I was mad that a Yankee threw at a Sox, but because I thought that in terms of the baseball Joba was endangering his teammates. I’d much prefer to discuss these types of situations in terms of the baseball, and not in terms of our rivalry.

I didn’t take it that way, and I did just look at this season. I got curious and wanted to see what was up.

i think the indignance about head-hunting has been largely balanced…and this from a guy who thinks this site is sox-centric…save yourself a hunt IH