Picture of Brian Cashman, December 16, 2010

Sleeping buddha 

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  • ommmm

    sam-YF December 16, 2010, 9:17 pm
  • Sweet! He’s zen! Like the Buddha…achieved internal peace with all his rings. :)

    krueg December 16, 2010, 9:32 pm
  • i hate to say this, but i’m beginning to think this is going to be a bridge year…anybody know what’s at the other end of the bridge?…

    dc December 17, 2010, 7:05 am
  • Boys, boys, boys.
    Stop this pouting! It’s coming, and we all know it, guys. Something is coming down the pipeline that nobody expects. Stop pretending like it’s not happening.
    Cashman knows that with Steinbrenner gone now and Torre gone, he’s the only scapegoat left..he’s not going to lose his job by fielding a 200M dollar team that doesn’t make the playoffs. You’re in, so calm down.
    That being said, these moves better involve a starting pitcher or two.

    Brad December 17, 2010, 8:52 am
  • anybody know what’s at the other end of the bridge?…
    10 years/300mm for Mr. Albert

    Brad December 17, 2010, 8:53 am
  • Kerry Wood’s deal is silly. Talk about someone leaving money on the table. He really could have cashed in to the level of Jenks this year…he must really love Chitown.

    Brad December 17, 2010, 9:04 am
  • His family is there Brad. I guess he’s made enough over the years.

    sam-YF December 17, 2010, 9:06 am
  • “…It’s coming, and we all know it, guys. Something is coming down the pipeline that nobody expects….”
    i feel it brad, i feel it…thanks for helping me see the light…i believe
    kinda reminds me of the old line about the light at the end of the tunnel being an oncoming train…

    dc December 17, 2010, 9:32 am
  • Yeah, I get that.

    Brad December 17, 2010, 9:34 am
  • Yeah, much as I would love to believe that the Yankees are going to go into 2011 with Sabathia and four question marks (to one degree or another), I fully expect that not to be the case.
    Of course, I’m willing to enjoy this period of Yankee uncertainty while it exists. No telling when there may be another one!

    Paul SF December 17, 2010, 9:34 am
  • “he must really love Chitown.”
    It’s not Chitown so much as it is the Cubs specifically. As noted at the below link, he turned down an offer from that other Chicago-based team for more than double the guaranteed money he is going to get from the Cubs: http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/16/kerry-wood-turns-down-3-5-million-from-white-sox-to-return-to-cubs-for-1-5-million/
    I raised this on an earlier thread and I’ll raise it again. While taking top dollar is certainly the rule, there are more exceptions every year than we or the guys who cover the game tend to acknowledge. It is not 1 in a million or 1 in a thousand who go for lesser money. I don’t know what the ratio is, but particualrly for guys who have gotten on in their careers, have therefore made some good money already, have seen at least a couple MLB destinations, may have school-aged children, etc, there are simply other factors that play into their decisions of where to go – i.e. where can they land that elusive ring, where will be best for their children/family/health/etc, where do they feel loyalties to community or a franchise, etc.
    As SF has pointed out, the system around these players (agents, MLBPA, etc.) all incentivize taking top dollar. But there are multiple exceptions every year.

    IronHorse (YF) December 17, 2010, 9:40 am
  • CC, Burnett, Tex. Jeter, Damon, Mo. The big moves for Cashman have been to either retain his own guys or sign free agents at no cost, other than draft picks, to his team.
    When was the last time Cashman acquired, via trade, an impact player for his team during the winter? A-Rod? Does Javy Vazquez count (I mean, it was for Melky Cabrera, so selling high). The Swisher deal was an excellent one, but it wasn’t really looked at as an acquisition of a star, impact player. I don’t ask this in order to attack Cashman, but when was the last time he made an off-season trade to acquire a real established impact player or up and coming star? It doesn’t seem like his MO, frankly. He’s been really resistant over the last few years, holding onto Joba, Hughes, now Montero. He has been very conservative, in this way. Am I forgetting someone?

    SF December 17, 2010, 9:41 am
  • Hey, three question marks buddy! Hughes is no question mark. The only question with Hughes is whether or not he will be a star. He can most certainly be average there’s no question there.
    Brad what’s coming? Trust me I have looked over FA’s for 2011, 2012, 2013, etc…There’s nothing coming unless Cashman has blackmail photos of someone. Teams are much smarter than they once were they are locking up these stud pitchers so they don’t hit the market. Chris Carpenter? Maybe, but that can’t be what you are talking about. Trust me buddy, I think this team is the team you’ll see on Opening Day, minus a 4th OF’r and some bullpen help.
    Feliciano deal is thought to be 2 years, $4M per. That’s fine.

    John - YF December 17, 2010, 9:42 am
  • It must be the Cubs IH, because the Orioles just signed Jeremy Accardo to a very similar deal (base). That’s right the same Jeremy Accardo that was in AAA last year…Well I am glad Wood is happy, but he just left a lot of money on the table.

    John - YF December 17, 2010, 9:50 am
  • “When was the last time Cashman acquired, via trade, an impact player for his team during the winter?”
    Curtis Granderson one year ago. Would the Yankees be better off with Austin Jackson – who was shipped to Detroit at that time? Perhaps. But he pulled the trigger nonetheless and I like Granderson.
    Wallace Mathews’ article at espn.com is basically a ton of words saying one thing: Yankees must – and will – do something. Of course, he and everyone else has no idea what that something is. There simply is not much out there.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/columns/story?columnist=matthews_wallace&id=5920496

    IronHorse (YF) December 17, 2010, 9:50 am
  • By the ways, great to have you posting again Nick – your posts pretty much always bring a smile to my face. This one is perfect…

    IronHorse (YF) December 17, 2010, 9:54 am
  • I am not a journalist, but I do think that I am a pretty good study of the game of baseball. I have scoured the information and there are no impact moves to be had. Sure the Yankees could probably land Prince Fielder, but where does Posada go? Chris Carpenter, maybe, but why would the Cardinals trade him now, maybe July yes. Wandy Rodriguez? He’s 32 and isn’t coming off a good season. It just seems like bad journalism to say something is coming without realistic ideas of what that is. That’s like calling for a coach to be fired and then when someone asks why saying “It’s time for a change.”

    John - YF December 17, 2010, 9:55 am
  • “It just seems like bad journalism to say something is coming without realistic ideas of what that is”.
    Couldn’t agree more John. That’s why more than half of what gets posted on espn and other such outlets is what I’d call commentary, not journalism. And for what it’s worth, I’ll take much of the commentary that gets bandied about here over the commentary you’ll find on such outlets.

    IronHorse (YF) December 17, 2010, 9:58 am
  • Ah, right, Granderson. But CG wasn’t a true star – he had major holes in his offense, split-wise.
    I am not sure that the Yankees will go out and splash with a major acquisition, though anything is a possibility. First of all, teams may sense that they can leverage more out of their own assets in a deal with the Yankees in the context of this offseason. Second, teams just don’t up and trade marquee players all that often – how many big names get moved in deals every off-season? A couple, max? Lastly, Cashman is quite justified in thinking that this team can quite easily make the playoffs as constructed, play dangerous baseball, and assess/correct things during the season if necessary.

    SF December 17, 2010, 9:58 am
  • Corey Hart, Connor Jackson and Mark DeRosa are all FA’s after this season. Corey Hart was an AS, but he was pretty average/awful in the second half. He is young-ish and hits from the right side. Connor Jackson has some issues, both on and off the field but he’s a name I have mentioned before. With the A’s just picking up “The Hammer” maybe they would move him. Mark DeRosa, the pride of Northern New Jersey, was injured last year and is a FA after this season. Maybe the Giants would move him, but he certainly isn’t young and really doesn’t bring any significant impact other than he plays a million positions average.
    Pitching wise the White Sox have 2 pitchers they can move if they want to save some money and that’s Buerhle and Edwin Jackson. I don’t see either happening, especially because the Sox are looking to compete in the Central and they traded one of their best pitching prospects for Jackson at the deadline. CJ Wilson? I doubt it.
    Point being there is nothing out there. I think this is our team for now, like it or not.

    John - YF December 17, 2010, 10:07 am
  • “But CG wasn’t a true star – he had major holes in his offense, split-wise.”
    You’re now talking about how the deal panned out in a single year of performance. Granderson’s performance in the field in 2010 was excellent all year long and his offense improved markedly mid-season after he altered his swing. He is certainly an impact player who Cashman landed in the winter via trade which is what you were looking for, right?
    Frankly if you take Granderson’s and Carl Crawford’s career numbers, and then compare what they’ll each make over the next 3 years (with Crawford making 70% more than CG next year, 95% more – almost double – in 2012, and 54% more in 2013 if the Yanks pick up CG’s contract) I would say the Yankees did very very well in landing an impact player at a good price for the prime of his career – and not beyond it.

    IronHorse (YF) December 17, 2010, 10:12 am
  • Hey, three question marks buddy! Hughes is no question mark. The only question with Hughes is whether or not he will be a star. He can most certainly be average there’s no question there.
    Sorry, I meant with Hughes the question mark is what his ceiling is. I think he’s going to be a great starter, but until he is…
    He’s a question mark in a totally different way than someone like Burnett, but also totally different than the question mark facing someone like Clay Buchholz.

    Paul SF December 17, 2010, 10:16 am
  • “… While taking top dollar is certainly the rule, there are more exceptions every year than we or the guys who cover the game tend to acknowledge….”
    well IH, it’s convenient for the media-types to ignore that little fact because it’s much more fun to bash the yankees for wallet-whipping the other teams in the bid for free agents…this offseason is a success from the perspective that it proved other teams also spend other-wordly money, and not everybody wants to play for the yankees at any price…i kinda wonder what loopyka is going to whine about now…didn’t take him long to jump on the knicks bandwagon…

    dc December 17, 2010, 10:25 am
  • Perhaps we are splitting hairs, but when Granderson was acquired I am not sure tectonic plates moved. It was seen as a good move, but not as a big splash. I am commenting more on the idea that Cashman has some sort of big-time move up his sleeve, or that he should be looking to do something like that. And I am not commenting on whether this kind of move would be good or not, or whether the acquisition of Granderson had or will have a big impact. I am talking of the aesthetics, hype, and names of players involved in what would be considered a big-time acquisition of a star. Granderson was not, at least not to me, that acquisition. Again, not a judgment on the acquisition itself, but on the aesthetics of the acquisition.
    Gonzalez, A-Rod, Halladay. Those are the types of moves that I mean. I just don’t think Cashman has made many moves like that, partly because there aren’t many moves like that made in the first place, but also because I don’t think Cashman NEEDS to make a move like this.

    SF December 17, 2010, 10:26 am
  • Granderson was a good trade; despite his off-year in 2010 he’s a fantastic player that I love to watch. Time will tell if it was worth trading AJax, but it was definitely a big move at the time.

    Atheose - SF December 17, 2010, 10:27 am
  • OK SF. I thought you were commenting on Cashman’s M.O. – that he has been unwilling to pull the trigger on off-season trades for available impact players and has instead relied on the fat wallet to land FAs.
    If you’re talking about the fact that there is not much supply for the trades of marquee players (esp in this off-season after the moves that have been made), and are also saying that he doesn’t need to do such a thing, I’d agree on both counts.
    But if you are commenting on his M.O. in comparison to Theo’s, I would differ, with the teams’ respective starting CF’s over the next few seasons as a case in point.
    And I think I also differ on CG. When you say “an established impact player” I would put him – at the time they acquired him – very much in that category. I mean, come on – the guy was an all-star the year before the Yankees got him.
    But no, I wouldn’t call him marquee a la A-Rod/Halladay/etc. of course.

    IronHorse (YF) December 17, 2010, 10:36 am
  • But if you are commenting on his M.O. in comparison to Theo’s
    No, this isn’t a Sox-Yanks comparison. I am probably not writing clearly to be honest. If I had to simplify my idea it is that I don’t think Cashman is likely to make a trade for a Pujolian impact player because a) trades for Pujolian impact players are, as occurrences, rare, b) because Cashman is content with his team’s chances without such a move, c) the timing is absolutely terrible for the Yankees to be able to get as much value as possible for their assets and d) because they don’t need to.
    I am also not sure it is his MO, but that could be a chicken and egg thing, if that makes sense.

    SF December 17, 2010, 10:42 am
  • “anybody know what’s at the other end of the bridge?…
    10 years/300mm for Mr. Albert”
    :)
    STOP ALL THIS NEGATIVITY BOYS!!! Bridge year??? Question marks??? I am not digging this vibe one bit.
    We are the FUCKING NEW YORK YANKEES! It’s going to be fine. The team we have, as currently constructed is still in the Top 3 in baseball. All you need to do is get in the playoffs and hope you are the hot team. The Giants proved that.
    Step off the ledge everyone. It’s going to fine.
    Love,
    Mr. Positivity

    krueg December 17, 2010, 11:01 am
  • I think I fear more for the Yankees as a result of the reverse-karma of a POSITIVE krueg than I do as a result of their half-empty starting rotation.

    IronHorse (YF) December 17, 2010, 11:03 am
  • it could also be because of the sometimes unspoken truth that other teams tend to expect that the yankees will pay more in the form of prospects, whether it’s out of desperation and/or the incessant need to feed the expectation-monster…that dynamic must make trades very difficult for the yankees to feel that they got a good deal in return, and therefore difficult for cashman to pull the trigger…that and the fact that the rest of baseball want to retain their franchise players when they can…you’re not going to see pujols traded to the yankees or anybody, because i expect the cards to do something like what the twins did for mauer…here’s a fact too: all the free agents and their agents know that the yankees will usually propose the richest deal…and i don’t think it was your intent to degrade granderson, or elevate gonzo to pujols stature sf, but i get your point…

    dc December 17, 2010, 11:08 am
  • Side question related to superstars: should the Yankees offer CC two more years guaranteed in exchange for the erasure of his opt-out? Or should they wait and see what happens?
    Because CC would be pretty stupid not to opt out, or at least threaten to opt-out if he stays healthy and has another good year.

    SF December 17, 2010, 11:23 am
  • Because CC would be pretty stupid not to opt out, or at least threaten to opt-out if he stays healthy and has another good year.
    He has said he ins’t going to, but then again, for a year A-Rod said the same exact thing.
    Yes, it would be a smart move.

    Brad December 17, 2010, 11:42 am
  • I think it’s a great idea, problem is the Yankees have taken the stance that as long as a player is under contract they will not negotiate with them. They didn’t make an exception for Jeter or Rivera, I can’t imagine they do it for CC. I do agree that it makes sense though. I can totally see CC opting out, especially with at least 1 ring on his finger: mission accomplished.

    John - YF December 17, 2010, 12:41 pm
  • I do like that picture, Nick.

    attackgerbil December 17, 2010, 1:03 pm
  • Just catching up here. Thanks for the kind words, IH. And, yeah, AG, the picture puts me at peace.

    Nick-YF December 17, 2010, 3:31 pm

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