Pitching Rich, Hitting Poor: Sox-LAngels Gamer I

The initial title of this game thread was going to be: "Why Does Terry Hate Timmy?"

Thankfully, yesterday’s rainout means J.D. Drew, the Sox’ hottest hitter thus far (and by "hottest," we mean "only") will not be removed from a lineup already devoid of Jason Varitek. Last year, it seemed Francona similarly picked the starts in which Doug Mirandoza was batting to rest Mark Loretta, Trot Nixon and others.

No such misfortune for Wakefield tonight — well, kinda. He gets a full lineup to support him. Unfortunately, they’ll be taking swings against John Lackey, who’s from my neck of the woods and pretty darn good to boot (11 hits, 4 walks, 1 earned run in 12 innings and a 2-0 record). We might be in for another wasted start.

Red Sox

1. Julio Lugo, SS
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Mike Lowell, 3B
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Doug Mirabelli, C
9. Dustin Pedroia, 2B

Angels

1. Gary Matthews Jr., CF
2. Orlando Cabrera, SS
3. Vlad Guerrero, RF
4. Garret Anderson, LF
5. Shea Hillenbrand, DH
6. Casey Kotchman, 1B
7. Howard Kendrick, 2B
8. Mike Napoli, C
9. Maicer Izturis, 3B

117 comments… add one
  • I, personally, will give the Sox offense a pass for not scoring many runs this entire series.

    Andrew April 13, 2007, 7:09 pm
  • no free audio tonite :(

    TJ April 13, 2007, 7:15 pm
  • Lackey give up a leadoff single to Lugo, then retires the next three.

    ToddSF April 13, 2007, 7:23 pm
  • Nice 10-pitch inning for Wakes.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 7:28 pm
  • MLB Trade Value for 2007
    http://ussmariner.com/2007/04/12/mlb-trade-value-for-2007/
    1Felix Hernandez RHP Seattle
    2 Albert Pujols 1B St. Louis
    3 Miguel Cabrera 3B Florida
    4 Jose Reyes SS New York Mets
    5 Joe Mauer C Minnesota Twins
    6 Grady Sizemore CF Cleveland
    7 Johan Santana LHP Minnesota
    8 Brian McCann C Atlanta
    9 Delmon Young RF Tampa Bay
    10 David Wright 3B New York Mets
    Two Yankees made the top 40. Hughes and Cano.

    Hared-Yf April 13, 2007, 7:28 pm
  • Speaking of Hernandez, I read after his Wednesday start that through history, young pitchers who have had similar success early have not gone on to lengthy, prosperous careers.
    And then I thought of Mark Prior and imagined if Dusty Baker was the King’s manager.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 7:32 pm
  • …cool. Now if only the completely subjective opinion of some Mariners fan actually meant something.

    desturbd1 April 13, 2007, 7:33 pm
  • I’d rank Cabrera higher than King Felix for one.

    Nick-YF April 13, 2007, 7:35 pm
  • meaning … ?

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 7:35 pm
  • Meaning on that list of players with the highest trade value, I’d put Miguel Cabrera higher than King Felix.

    Nick-YF April 13, 2007, 7:37 pm
  • Agreed, Nick. (But I meant d1’s comment.)

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 7:38 pm
  • Forget it. I just answered the question.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 7:40 pm
  • Why are the Sox going to score a ton of runs this year again?

    SF April 13, 2007, 7:40 pm
  • Well, if Wake keeps this up.
    Damn nice work through three.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 7:44 pm
  • …meaning that I personally don’t care about how many Sox/Yanks are on some dude’s list.
    It’s John Lackey. He’s a good pitcher. And the Sox are going to score because at some point, Youkilis, Ortiz, and Manny will remember how to get on base with some consistancy. I think…

    desturbd1 April 13, 2007, 7:45 pm
  • Looks like Wakefield’s knuckler is working again. Let’s hope for the Sox’s sake he can pitch 8 innings, because you don’t want to give the Sox bullpen (sans Paps) a tied game.

    Andrew April 13, 2007, 7:54 pm
  • Oops. I jinxed him.

    Andrew April 13, 2007, 7:56 pm
  • …right, because the pen’s just been so unconscionably bad so far.

    desturbd1 April 13, 2007, 7:57 pm
  • And the Sox are going to score because at some point, Youkilis, Ortiz, and Manny will remember how to get on base with some consistancy. I think…
    Who are they going to drive in, or who will drive them in? I am sincerely becoming quite concerned.

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:03 pm
  • Well, JD got his hit but it didn’t help. Can’t believe no one else can get on base…

    rootbeerfloat April 13, 2007, 8:04 pm
  • I’ll be concerned when they start getting on. Pressure comes off the rest of the lineup when Drew’s no longer the only person swinging the bat. I’d be concerned, but I’m sort of refusing to acknowledge it until more then 10 games have been played. Just like I’m not going to make any grandoise predictions about the quality of our pitching staff for a while.
    Incidentally, I’m still more worried about Ortiz then anyone else, if only because he has to be GOOD for this team to have a chance. I was momentarily elated by those two homers off Padilla, but this is still a month and a half of straight non-production.

    desturbd1 April 13, 2007, 8:10 pm
  • It’s legitimately worrisome. Tek doesn’t look like he’s going to bounce back enough, Crisp looks genuinely lost, Lugo gets on base only if he gets a hit, Lowell could easily regress a little, and Pedroia needs to be given some time to learn the majors. That’s a scarily large amount of the lineup that may not reliably get on base. So what if Ortiz, Manny, Youk, and Drew are bopping? They’re going to have far too few situations in which to bop with much impact.
    The Sox definitely look like they have a problem. I know it’s very early, it’s been very cold, and I am certainly not jumping ship. But I am worried. The early returns are discouraging, particularly for Tek and Crisp.

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:11 pm
  • Dougie goes deep!

    Andrew F April 13, 2007, 8:13 pm
  • Jeez, there’s Belli to louse up my complaining. 1-1!
    Opposite field, no less.
    (Maybe Tek should play every fifth day?)
    ;-)

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:13 pm
  • There’s your season catalyst, Doug Mirabelli with the dingah!!!!

    ToddSF April 13, 2007, 8:14 pm
  • All I’m saying is that the offense has more or less lived and died with its 3-4 since 2005. I’ve got a crappy memory for stuff like this, but I’m fairly positive that even the 05 offense slumped when one or both of them stopped hitting. So until they can get themselves back on track…
    Hahaha, DOUGIE’S GOING DEEP!!!

    desturbd1 April 13, 2007, 8:14 pm
  • Belli with the homer!!!

    Rob April 13, 2007, 8:14 pm
  • Pedroia tries the same exact thing, swinging from his heels. Unfortunately he’s like 5’1 and lacking homer power. Popout.

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:14 pm
  • I am so fricken unhappy about my inability to access mlb.tv right now…did Pedroia at least give that one a ride?

    desturbd1 April 13, 2007, 8:15 pm
  • No. He appeared to try to hit the Williams red seat, but it died about 270 feet from home in right center.

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:16 pm
  • Very nice piece of hitting from Lugo, poking one the opposite way over first base. Double.

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:16 pm
  • Manny has GOT to get moving – and not just because I have a bet with my local YF about whether he or A-rod hits 500 HRs first.

    rootbeerfloat April 13, 2007, 8:17 pm
  • Oh yeah, and about Lugo…he’s got 4 walks coming into today for a .365 obp. 4 walks in 33 plate appearances is not bad at all if he can hang around the high-280’s mark…over a full season, that’s something like 75 walks. I really can’t understand where the criticism of his approach is coming from…it’s been solid thus far.

    desturbd1 April 13, 2007, 8:17 pm
  • Damn…1st pitch fly out

    Rob April 13, 2007, 8:18 pm
  • Youkilis lifts a fly ball to left that starts, according to Remy, 10 rows into the stands, but the wind blows it back into short left and there’s the second out for you. Youkilis looks shocked, but he has only himself to blame, basically popping up the first pitch weakly, forget the fact that under other circumstances it would have been in the seats. Undisciplined.
    Papi then knocks in Lugo on a single to right. 2-1 Sox.

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:18 pm
  • Papi get the rbi

    Rob April 13, 2007, 8:19 pm
  • I guess I have been a little unfair to Lugo thus far, D1. I will lay off.

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:21 pm
  • And now WEEI is having tech problems. Crap.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 8:21 pm
  • It would be nice if Lackey could get chased before the end of the 6th.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 8:23 pm
  • we’re making lackey look like koufax. it’s a curveball…take a beli cut.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 8:23 pm
  • Manny Ramirez career vs. John Lackey prior to tonight’s game:
    9/18, 3 2B, 4 HR, 7 BB.
    And yet he’s 0/3 tonight with a K when it mattered most. Dammit.
    Not just you, SF, lots of people here and elsewhere still carping on him. I’ll admit that for whatever reason, watching the games makes it seem like he doesn’t get on that much. I’m thinking it might be because for every quality ab he has, he’s got one where he grounds or pops out on the first or second pitch. But I don’t really know…

    desturbd1 April 13, 2007, 8:25 pm
  • It would just be nice if the boys gave poor Wake just a little teeny tiny bit of run support.

    rootbeerfloat April 13, 2007, 8:25 pm
  • I must say, I love the Angels’ approach. Really making Wake work thus far…
    *knocks on wood*

    desturbd1 April 13, 2007, 8:27 pm
  • drew is down right impressive ball player.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 8:30 pm
  • Bob Ryan better write a f*cking mea culpa for that asinine “he’s a slug” rant before the guy even got signed. Seriously. Lot of writers with egg all over their faces right now, but none look as bad as him.*
    *I know it’s REALLY early, but still…

    desturbd1 April 13, 2007, 8:32 pm
  • DOUGIE’S GOING DEEP! (with a single)
    Amazing.

    Andrew F April 13, 2007, 8:36 pm
  • Dougie making a play for Jason’s job…

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:36 pm
  • Doug in a groove

    Rob April 13, 2007, 8:37 pm
  • Wow! Yay Mirabelli!

    rootbeerfloat April 13, 2007, 8:37 pm
  • 100 pitches for lackey. not sure we fair well against their bullpen.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 8:37 pm
  • dustin refuses to get cheated on hacks.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 8:39 pm
  • Pedroia with the lengthy at-bat, finishes with a single. Nicely done.

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:41 pm
  • d1, count me among those who will quit bitching about Lugo, too. I was on him early.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 8:41 pm
  • Doug is tired of the team not getting runs for Wake.

    Rob April 13, 2007, 8:42 pm
  • Pedroia sends Lackey to the dougout

    Rob April 13, 2007, 8:42 pm
  • Lugo can win a few more converts, here, if he plates two insurance runs.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 8:44 pm
  • amen on that Bill

    Rob April 13, 2007, 8:44 pm
  • lugo sucks. why did we get him? nobody likes him.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 8:45 pm
  • Bonds has 2 HR tonight

    TJ April 13, 2007, 8:45 pm
  • I wouldn’t have imagined that through six, Wakefield would have thrown 40 fewer pitches than Lackey. 69 pitches for Wake thus far is outstanding.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 8:45 pm
  • Lugo flies to Guerrero. Drat. A fourth run would have felt really good.

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:45 pm
  • I guess we wait on going to the Lugo chapel

    Rob April 13, 2007, 8:46 pm
  • Bootcheck is from LaPorte, Indiana. That’s one of those towns where you just keep going.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 8:47 pm
  • And I forgot to mention that Time Warner is doing a free preview of Extra Innings, so I am currently watching the NESN broadcast. What a sweet surprise tonight!

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:49 pm
  • Trouble brewing for Wake. 2 easy outs, then a single and a monste double by Kendrick. A base hit ties the game here.

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:51 pm
  • Watching sportcenter…..The first official Lou Pinella blow out has happened

    Rob April 13, 2007, 8:51 pm
  • WEEEEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEEEE, SF. So is Comcast.
    Thanks for the tip.
    NESN in Chicago!

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 8:52 pm
  • Not to deceive, but that was a monstrous double to center field, not a double off the monster.
    The third out comes on a drifting flyball that makes it all the way to the triangle, Coco makes the grab.

    SF April 13, 2007, 8:52 pm
  • Do you let Wakes go 9 if his pitch count is less than 95 after 8?

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 8:56 pm
  • Walking Manny to pitch to Drew.
    They’ll pay for this.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 9:00 pm
  • If it’s a two run game, I bring in Paps for the ninth. Screw the pitch count: he’ll be getting to guys for the third, fourth time. They need to see someone different.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:00 pm
  • Nice eye from Drew gets the count to 3 and 1. Hitter’s count and…
    Drew walks.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:04 pm
  • Scoscia glares at the home plate ump and shakes his head, though all four balls were properly called, not even borderline.
    Lowell up with a chance to do something helpful. He pops to left, Anderson makes a nice sliding grab, but Youkilis tags and makes the score 4-1.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:06 pm
  • Come on, Coco — I am rooting for you pretty hard at this point.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:08 pm
  • Great shot of Leatherface and Daisuke yakking on the dugout steps, laughing it up.
    What the heck could they possibly be talking about?!

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:08 pm
  • Strike 2 to Coco was clearly ball 4.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 9:10 pm
  • Gosh, Coco really having problems. He looks at a nice 3-1 pitch low on the outside black, then pulls a straight fastball pretty weakly to the shortstop, ending the inning. He should have done far more with that pitch, there was really nothing much to it.
    He’s just completely confused at this point.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:10 pm
  • Yes, you want Paps in the 9th. You’ll see Guerrero one more time.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 9:11 pm
  • I didn’t think that 3-1 pitch was clearly outside, Bill. To me it looked like a very good borderline pitch.
    Lowell with a hell of a stab diving to his right, but then throws the ball from his knees into the dugout. Blech. Hit and an error.
    Francona coming out to get Wake. I think that’s a good, defensible move, and the right one. We’ll see what happens.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:13 pm
  • 2 for 2 on solid starts for wake. hopefully we can pick him up.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 9:13 pm
  • Great play, DP!

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 9:15 pm
  • Fantastic play by Pedroia! He ranges far to his left into the 1/2 hole, dives, springs up, and gets Matthews at first by a step.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:16 pm
  • SF, there’s a reason I’m not an umpire.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 9:16 pm
  • no pickles for you mr. cabrera.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 9:17 pm
  • What the crud.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 9:18 pm
  • Donnelly goes to 3-1 on Cabrera. He’s not entirely sharp tonight, as Pedroia has already saved a hit. Now Donnelly plunks O-Cab, bringing the tying run to the plate. Ugly work. Tito strolls to the mound with Guerrero coming up. He brings Paps in.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:18 pm
  • power on power. paps vs. vlad. should be good.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 9:19 pm
  • And here comes Paps for another 5-out save.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 9:19 pm
  • late on two 94 mph fast balls. throw something in the dirt here.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 9:22 pm
  • Man, I wish I could watch this.

    Nick-YF April 13, 2007, 9:23 pm
  • nice. wonder if paps likes throwing to beli?

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 9:23 pm
  • K

    TJ April 13, 2007, 9:24 pm
  • Garret Anderson is a tough out, and scares me. Paps gets him to line to Manny. Phew!

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:25 pm
  • way to pick up wake…and donelly for that matter.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 9:25 pm
  • Nick, In Demand is having a free preview tonight. …
    And damn, Paps looks good.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 9:26 pm
  • i love this lugo kid. i’m glad we got him. everyone likes him.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 9:32 pm
  • Paps in the ninth? He threw only 6 pitches, but a 3-run lead with the bottom of the order – should he sit? It’s not exactly a high leverage situation.
    This is a can’t win situation for Tito, if Paps labors in the ninth than he is useless tomorrow. If Tito takes him out, he might be able to throw again tomorrow but then you’re dealing with the bottom of the bullpen and if things implode Francona will be pilloried. No envy here. I think I’d bring him out, ice the win. Worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
    As I type, Lugo just singled, putting men on 1/2 with one out. If the Sox score anything, then I bring someone else in.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:32 pm
  • Bases loaded, one down. Youkilis singled to left field, Pedroia held at third wisely.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:32 pm
  • Papi strides to the plate. Nowhere to put him.
    No GIDPS.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:34 pm
  • Ooh, very tough, borderline pitch on 2-1 to Papi. The 2-2 pitch is low and inside. All full, everywhere. Payoff pitch…
    Foul, lined hard right. Payoff pitch #2…
    Weak foul, tapped left, barely. Payoff pitch #3…

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:36 pm
  • Lined into the corner, ground rule double!
    6-1 Sox. Good at-bat. Papelbon should be done for the night now. Francona given an easy decision by the Sox’ offense.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:38 pm
  • What a GREAT at-bat by Papi!

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 9:38 pm
  • Yeah, Timmy will pitch the 9th, now.
    TIMMMMY!! …
    Love to see Manny go deep here and pile on.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 9:39 pm
  • should be fun to see how kei bounces back tonite in oakland.
    and forget what i said ealier about not liking our chances against their bullpen.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 9:41 pm
  • Another good scenario for Timlin, with a nice lead. I like the fact that he can get game action in lower pressure situations.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:42 pm
  • Nice piece of hitting by Drew, he sends it through a big hole between short and third, two ribbies and another hit for JD. He’s been very impressive so far.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:44 pm
  • Yeah, that Drew signing was a bad idea.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 9:44 pm
  • And now a double by Lowell making it 10-1.
    It’s great that the offense has come through, but it’s still a tad deceptive, as the outburst came in a situation where the team was pretty much a sure winner already. Don’t want to sound too pissy, but them’s the facts.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:46 pm
  • Of course, Coco still can’t get a hit. He whiffs.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:46 pm
  • so if coco can’t hit mop up AAA guy’s what can he hit?………the road. paging mr ellsbury.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 9:47 pm
  • Wow. Did I hear the boo birds greeting Covelli there?

    I'm Bill McNeal April 13, 2007, 9:47 pm
  • never thought i would be pissed about the offense taking a safe from m e in fantasy

    TJ April 13, 2007, 9:51 pm
  • The Coco situation is very alarming. He was clearly hurt last year, but he’s supposedly reasonably healthy. To me he looks just plain lost up there. In his last two at-bats he tapped a straight fastball over the heart of the plate to short, then swung through a straight fastball right down the middle. Those are two pitches he should be sitting on, but he barely made contact at all. He yelled at himself pretty loudly after that last whiff – this has got to be frustrating for him way more than for us – he was a really nice player when the Sox acquired him, but at the moment he barely looks like a major league hitter. I’d like to think a couple days off would do him well, let WMP get some plate appearances, but that comes off as naive – it can’t be as simple as that.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:53 pm
  • WMP had to pick up pedroia from the ground. he almost threw him.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 9:56 pm
  • Dustin grabs the windblown pop to end the game. Good win, especially good for Wake.
    Hopefully the Sox can get to .600 tomorrow.

    SF April 13, 2007, 9:57 pm
  • Let WMP get lots of ABs

    TJ April 13, 2007, 9:57 pm
  • paplebon might be the best set up guy in the game.

    sf rod April 13, 2007, 9:57 pm

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