Do or Die: ALDS Gamer IV

Say this for Joe Torre, he’s never been afraid to make a quick move in the playoffs to help right his ship. His leash has always been short, perhaps too short. Today, Alex Rodriguez bats 8th. A-Rod has only himself to blame, I suppose, but he’ll have plenty of help apportioning it if the Yanks fail. Also in the lineup, sparkplug Melky Cabrera. How Alex responds to the very public demotion is anyone’s guess. His future, and that of the Yankees, may just depend upon it. But the game is more properly in the hands of Jaret Wright and Jeremy Bonderman. Let’s just hope the rejiggered Yankee lineup finds a way to bring things back to the Stadium.

From the AttackGerbil

Help us Jaret Samuel Wright. You’re our only hope.

Last week, somewhere in the darker regions of my mind, I imagined I would be writing this today. I then spent many hours one morning beginning at 3 a.m. reading and re-reading rosters, histories, situational statistics, and convinced myself that New York would easily dispatch those upstart Tigers.

Jeremy Bondeman, second in the league in strikeouts this season, pitches today against a New York battery that has proven quite adept over the last two games at making Detroit pitchers look rilly rilly good at striking out Yankee hitters. Still, it’s a beautiful day and after a bike ride in the brisk autumn air, I am ready for some baseball.

Your comments here. Lineups after the jump….

New York:
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Sheffield 1B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Rodriguez 3B
Cabrera LF

Granderson CF
Polanco 2B
Casey 1B
Ordonez RF
Guillen SS
Rodriguez C
Monroe LF
Thames DH
Inge 3B

266 comments… add one
  • Since 2000, A-Rod has exactly two at-bats in the No. 8 spot. One in 2002 and one in 2003.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:10 pm
  • Rosenthal on Fox now speculating about Piniella returning to the Yanks if they lose today as a Torre replacement, and A-Rod shipping anywhere from Los Angeles (either one) to Miami (in exchange for Dontrelle, and if the Yanks pick up the bulk of the salary). Also a return to Beantown for Nomar?
    Everyone getting ahead of themselves today.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:14 pm
  • The AP says it’s the lowest A-Rod’s batted since his rookie season in 1996, but the Day-by-Day Database says otherwise, showing him with the 0 for 2 line since 2000…

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:15 pm
  • Paul: I would guess those were pinch hit situations in which he would have come in as a late-inning bat on a scheduled day off.
    But who knows.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:16 pm
  • After Piniella’s woeful performance in Tampa (not that he couldn’t win, but that he couldn’t manage a bad team with class), I’d be surprised if he would be a good fit in New York…

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:17 pm
  • Also, the splits say A-Rod batted ninth for two at-bats this season… I guess those at-bats, and the two No. 8 at-bats were pinch-hit scenarios…

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:19 pm
  • Great minds, YF :-p

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:19 pm
  • Wow, if the Yankees get rid of Torre for Piniella after losing today, I’ll have a reason for double-celebration. That’s an absurd idea.

    SF October 7, 2006, 4:23 pm
  • I don’t mean absurd as in “never gonna happen” but absurd as in “stupid”.

    SF October 7, 2006, 4:23 pm
  • Which is not the definition of “absurd”, I admit.

    SF October 7, 2006, 4:24 pm

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:25 pm
  • Can’t imagine a more unpleasant scenario than Lou, short of a return of Bucky Dent. The hot-head routine is tiresome, and he can’t handle a pitching staff. Pass.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:28 pm
  • SF, I would go a wee bit further and say tht the idea of a swap of Torre for Piniella is absurd, stupid, asinine, moronic, idiotic, less than half-witted, brainless, cracked, debilitated, and wrong.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 4:30 pm
  • Great minds indeed, Paul. Maybe we can co-manage the deTorrified Yanks–ACK!

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:30 pm
  • I guess that means I should start rooting for a return of Sweet Lou.
    Two pitches, one out for Bonderman. Damon flies to left.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:31 pm
  • Shadows a bitch here in the first. Johnny D out on the opposite field fly.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:31 pm
  • Jeter grounds to short on the first pitch.
    The BBTN guys were talking about the Yanks needing to be more aggressive. Wonder if they’re trying that…

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:32 pm
  • Jeter down 6-3. That’s 3 pitches folks. Not a great start.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:32 pm
  • And Abreu’s gone… Six-pitch inning for Bonderman. Good start for Detroit.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:34 pm
  • Thanks FOX. So busy with the fan cutaways they miss the pitch. The result they catch: a shallow fly to center for Abreu. Hard to imagine a worse start. Or would it have been worse to strand 3? Feh.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:34 pm
  • It’s a bit disingenuous all this talk about the Yankees having an all-All Star lineup, isn’t it? Giambi, Sheffield and Williams particularly are shadows of their All-Star selves. Still that leaves six of nine in near-Star form.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:35 pm
  • Granderson out 3 unassisted.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:36 pm
  • Granderson down quickly, as Wright comes out throwing strikes.
    Looks like it must be real hard to pick up the balls with the shadows. A good time to stay in the strike zone, force batters to try for contact.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:37 pm
  • Nice leaping grab by Cano to take away a base hit. That ball was smoked…

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:38 pm
  • Polanco, squinting, lines one opposite field to Cano. 2 down.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:38 pm
  • Fox says the home plate ump’s wife is in labor, likely will give birth tonight. Wide strike zone, you think?
    1-2-3 go the Tigers.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:39 pm
  • Casey flies to left. Wright matches Bonderman’s quick inning.
    0-0 after 1.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:39 pm
  • Okay, already pining for Buck-McCarver. Sad.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:41 pm
  • Hmmm. Sheff caught with the check-swing K. Close one.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:43 pm
  • Bonderman’s throwing a ton of strikes.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:43 pm
  • Matsui lazy fly to center. 2 down.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:44 pm
  • It’s really just Steve Lyons that’s irritating. The play-by-play guy can be mediocre with a good voice and be palatable. When the color guy’s an idiot, it really kills the flow.
    Sheesh, the Yankees are not putting anything together thus far…

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:45 pm
  • Deja vu.
    This thing flying by. Bonderman getting ahead of everyone, and mixing up pitches effectively. Smart to be throwing over the plate with the tough vision. Let’s hope the wheels come off his train in the third.
    Meanwhile, back at Wright.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:46 pm
  • They’re pressing. They’re trying to hit the ball out of the park. Maybe in the third the Yanks can at least work 10 pitches out of Detroit pitching. Baby steps, baby steps…

    Bill October 7, 2006, 4:47 pm
  • ORDONEZ! 1-0 Detroit.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:48 pm
  • Crap. Wright leaves a 1-0 fastball right down the middle. Boom. Ordonez takes it to deep right center. 1-0.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:48 pm
  • Check. Deep left center.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:49 pm
  • Check. Deep left center.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:49 pm
  • This could transpire to be the best day of baseball all year.

    brad October 7, 2006, 4:50 pm
  • I’ll be back, but I left the laptop charger at work, and that’s how I’m commenting and watching the game at the same time. Gotta run and get it.
    Go Tigers!

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 4:50 pm
  • Guillen high fly to Robi. 1 down.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:51 pm
  • Where was that?!?

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:52 pm
  • Bad. 4 straight balls to I-Rod from 0-2. The first one looked pretty damn good, though.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:53 pm
  • And where was pitch 1 to Monroe? Right down the middle. Ump is from Michigan. Go figure.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:54 pm
  • Another dinger, to all-or-nothing Monroe. Hanging curve on the outside half. Monroe went and got it. 3-0. The walk is a killer.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:56 pm
  • Torre to Wright: stop sucking.
    Gonna be an uphill climb now.
    Right not missing many bats. Lidle and Myers up. Joe wastes no time.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:57 pm
  • Thames broken bat single. Things not going well here.

    YF October 7, 2006, 4:59 pm
  • Things are definitely well here.

    Anonymous October 7, 2006, 5:00 pm
  • Inge down swinging.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:02 pm
  • Granderson lines to Jeter, who drills the ball into the ground as he jogs off, with a sidelong glance toward Wright.
    Gauntlet down. Time to put some numbers up on the board. A-Rod will be the fall guy for what follows if he doesn’t start producing right now.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:04 pm
  • Cano drives one to left center, but Monroe makes the diving grab. Great play. And here’s you-know-who.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:06 pm
  • First pitch swinging goes down 5-3. That’s, what, 2 pitches, 2 outs. Horrid.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:07 pm
  • Cabrera out 4-3. Giambi stews. 23 pitches, 9 outs. Bonderman perfect thru 3.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:09 pm
  • Polanco lazy fly to left starts the bottom 3rd. Let’s hope the Tigers get complacent.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:13 pm
  • Where was that!!!???

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:13 pm
  • This is soooo enjoyable…

    Anonymous October 7, 2006, 5:17 pm
  • Casey lazy fly to left, a la Polanco. 2 down. Now Ordonez. Who hits the grounder to Alex, who fumbles. Throws wide of the bag. Sheff doesn’t come off the bag for it. Bad fielding all around. Definitely an E5, but a solid defensive 1b would have bailed him out.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:17 pm
  • a much, much more expensive version of the Atlanta Braves, at best – oh, without the pitching of course.

    Anonymous October 7, 2006, 5:18 pm
  • Crap. Guillen little ducksnort over Cano right. Cano misjudges it. Ordonez to third. Pudge up.
    Gotta stop the bleeding here.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:19 pm
  • Someone get in here on the YF side and help out poor YF, all by his lonesome. I am certainly persona non grata at the moment, so it’s going to have to be someone else.

    SF October 7, 2006, 5:20 pm
  • Single up the middle. 4-0. Guillen to 3rd on Damon.
    Wright is done. Blame this inning on shoddy defense.
    5-0 would be close to out of reach. Need an out.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:21 pm
  • Maybe Jeter can pitch for them? This has to be so embarrassing for Yankee fans – It’s easily the the best baseball of the year.
    Cashman = gone.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 5:23 pm
  • What I wrote earlier in the week in the Gerb’s Yanks-Tigers comparoo thread:
    “The Yankee defense is also going to be dicey. Sheff is out of position. The outfield arms are weak. We could see some extra outs in this series.”
    That’s what happened here, and you didn’t need be Nostradamus to see that something like that might happen.
    Lidle in. Short leash.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:24 pm
  • K ends the inning.
    Okay. Top of the order. Let’s start anew.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:26 pm
  • But that was an error on the third baseman, no? Not one of the obvious weak links on D. Sheffield’s another story, but Giambi’s no Mientkieieeaedewwwicz either. This game is in a hole because of a $24M bust pitcher, nothing else.

    SF October 7, 2006, 5:26 pm
  • Not watching right now, but has either Lewin or Lyons made the obligatory “a four run lead can be gone in a heartbeat against this Yankees lineup” comment yet?

    SF October 7, 2006, 5:27 pm
  • U-G-L-Y. Another 3 up 3 down. Jeter looks like his worst self, reaching on a slider low and away. Abreu not even seeing pitches.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:33 pm
  • Looks like the Yanks might be joining the Sox on the golf course just one week later…

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 5:33 pm
  • That’s how to do it! 5-3. Nice throw, nice stretch (though maybe a bit overzealous.)

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:36 pm
  • Sheffield looked amazing on that layout there. Wow. That’s just unreal flexibility.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 5:36 pm
  • I’d rather the Sox be playing golf than being taken to the woodshed by the vastly inferior team.
    Ouch Yankee fans.

    Anonymous October 7, 2006, 5:36 pm
  • 6-3. Lidle doing okay.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:37 pm
  • It seems to me that Damon’s remarks at the beginning of the season about the Yanks being uptight and how he’s made them a lot more fun and looser were only half right.
    Right: Yanks are too uptight/afraid of losing/having fun.
    Wrong: Damon’s managed to change that culture.
    You’ve got too much talent and too many egos with a ton of experience at winning seemingly trying too hard to win, thus doing nothing but making it easier to lose. Damon’s just one guy. He doesn’t have Kevin Millar, David Ortiz and Pedro Martinez to help keep things loose in dire straits.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 5:37 pm
  • Nice quick inning. Now time to chip away. Or at least break up the perfecto. Christ.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:38 pm
  • I’m already collecting coupons to go play winter golf. And it’s almost time to start waxing my skis. Prove me wrong, New York. I want to have a reason to watch baseball next week other than to here my girl lord the Yankee collapse over me as her Tigers play Oaktown.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 5:38 pm
  • Who’s the anon SF poster? I’m all for kicking the Yankees when they’re down, but use your name if you’re gonna do it.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 5:38 pm
  • Wow, AG. Are you two even talking to each other this week?

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 5:39 pm
  • …sorry yf, i hope our fellow yf’s haven’t bailed on you, but it is getting very discouraging…if i got it right, we are currently being no-hit…we picked a lousy time for a slump, but to credit the tigers, they are playing extremely well…there’s no way that was kenny rogers last night…it must have been a lookalike…maybe roger clemens in a rogers halloween mask…
    …count on george to insist on some drastic moves this off-season if the yanks don’t pull off a miracle here, but i’m not sure that more drama is what the yanks need right now…their ’98 team was one of the best ever [as a team], but had no real superstars, just a bunch of good, hard-working guys that knew how to win…sometimes this team hasn’t felt like a team, perhaps winning in spite of themselves…but even my sf friends are trying to remind me that this game and season are not over….yet…
    …for me the only bright spot in this game so far is that we don’t have to listen to buck-mac…mac used to be good, but he may be getting senile, and buck is just lucky his dad was so well liked…

    dc October 7, 2006, 5:39 pm
  • here/hear.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 5:39 pm
  • Paul: let’s put the blame where it belongs: mediocre pitching, suspect defense. We knew these were issues in March. Blaming “chemistry” now seems like an easy way out.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:40 pm
  • The ad at the bottom reminds me: What reason will Lasorda give Sox fans to watch if the Yanks are gone? I’m a fan of playoff baseball myself, but even I only make it a point/set aside time to watch the last few games of the World Series…

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 5:41 pm
  • SF: there’s your line.
    But sheff k’s on a check swing for the 2nd time.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:41 pm
  • She is in heaven right now. The Wolverines are beating the Spartans. The Tigers are rolling.
    Sheff kills one that drifts foul left, then goes down swinging. Looks like Bernie yesterday.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 5:41 pm
  • Fuck. Can’t we get anything. Can’t even take a pitch.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:42 pm
  • six balls in five innings? Oh, that’s beautiful. Did Curt call him last night or something?

    Anonymous October 7, 2006, 5:43 pm
  • I agree YF. The Yanks’ pitching was the reason I thought they wouldn’t last long in the playoffs (though that was when the Twins had Liriano and the Tigers looked like they’d win the Central). But the Yanks’ strength — their bats — are playing completely against their style (swinging at everything, trying to do too much, not making the pitcher work). That strikes me as the result of being tight, afraid to lose.
    It doesn’t help of course that Bonderman is pitching quite well. Another K as I type.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 5:44 pm
  • YF, agree completely. I am not an apologist for the lack of performance from the Yankee hitters, but all season, pitching has been the principle concern.
    Bonderman rings up Posada on a SICK pitch.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 5:45 pm
  • this is not pleasant

    Nick-YF October 7, 2006, 5:46 pm
  • Or, because pitching always wins. If you hire enough all-stars to sell tickets, sooner or later you will see that the guys
    who really want it, are the same ones that will win it. Just look at all those young tigers on the stoop counting the outs, while A-Rod and Damon talk on the bench not even watching the game.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 5:47 pm
  • this is not pleasant

    Nick-YF October 7, 2006, 5:47 pm
  • did I mention – I LOVE THIS DAY SO FAR!
    ? – Hey, Jeter’s range just showed up for the first time today!

    Anonymous October 7, 2006, 5:48 pm
  • I just don’t think it’s a coincidence that Damon has the only big hit for the Yankee lineup in three games. One game, sure. Maybe even two. But three straight games, with this lineup, against Detroit’s pitching (which the Yankees had few problems with earlier this season)? I’m not blaming chemistry for the series loss. But it’s also pretty easy to just say, “Our pitching sucked,” when if this score holds, it will have posted a 4.67 ERA. Not bad, but certainly enough for this lineup to overcome.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 5:50 pm
  • Though it’s not looking like this score will hold. First and third, none out.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 5:51 pm
  • Brad, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say that one cutaway to Damon and ARod having a conversation is an indication about how much these guys want to win.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 5:51 pm
  • Sorry, “not bad” should be “not good”…
    Ordonez with the RBI single. 5-0, 1st and 2nd, 0 out.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 5:52 pm
  • Detroit is hitting at will off of Lidle. Hook him, Joe.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 5:52 pm
  • a decent defensive SS makes that play, and there’s an out recorded. A below average one will allow the runner to reach and then the runner will take take third on another single and then score on the next hit to put up a:
    5 SPOT!!!!
    Oh man, where are the intangibles?

    Anonymous October 7, 2006, 5:52 pm
  • Lidle is toast out there.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 5:53 pm
  • Okay, AG. I see the motivation just leaking off the bats of the Yankee hitters. They all look so determined to get back in it.
    oh, 6-0: Get the ski’s ready.

    Anonymous October 7, 2006, 5:54 pm
  • My daughter is havung aa screaming fit. Me too.
    All but over. What a horrible way to go.

    YF October 7, 2006, 5:54 pm
  • Pick a name anon. Use it. Click on “Remember personal info.” Please.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 5:55 pm
  • Manny meanwhile is completely oblivious to the game.
    Manny my cat, that is.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 5:56 pm
  • this is an exquisitely brutal way to lose.

    Nick-YF October 7, 2006, 5:58 pm
  • Now 7-0 on the I-Rod sac fly.
    This is reminiscent of 2004 ALCS Game 7. Not in importance or historical scope, but in that “big matchup fighting for their lives turns into a blowout quickly” sense…

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 5:59 pm
  • how’s the football season be so far?

    Nick-YF October 7, 2006, 5:59 pm
  • sorry, the anon posts were me. I must have accidentally unchecked the box. My bad.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 5:59 pm
  • Anonymous, what does that mean, “Motivation leaking off the bats?”
    I appreciate your valiant efforts at pushing buttons by talking about things like “intangibles” and taking shots at Jeter’s range on a play that no shortstop would have made, but when it comes right down to it, the Tigers are beating New York on both sides of the field, and I won’t make excuses for them.
    Detroit is playing great ball. New York isn’t.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 5:59 pm
  • *been

    Nick-YF October 7, 2006, 6:00 pm
  • Now, if the Broncos win the Super Bowl, two of the three best possible things could happen to me this year in terms of sports.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:01 pm
  • I’m trying to be fairly diplomatic because I respect the yfs who post here regularly, but I’d be a liar if I didn’t acknowledge that this might be the most enjoyable games I’ve watched since August.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:02 pm
  • AG: Please.
    There are plenty of SS that get to that ball. He just makes it look that way because he’s so late to get to the spot. And, by motivation I mean lack thereof on the part of the Yankees.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:02 pm
  • It’s cool Brad. Just wanted us all on the record if we’re gonna be rubbing salt in the wounds… ;-)

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:03 pm
  • Brad, I disagree on that play. I rewound and watched it again; it was a slow roller. There was no play for Jeter or anyone else on that single, but I agree that Jeter is not anywhere near the rangiest SS in the game.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 6:03 pm
  • Paul?
    This is definitely the most enjoyable game I’ve seen in a while. Don’t hold it back now – just let it out. We know you’re happy! We all are! Even Nomar (my dog) seems to know what’s going on!

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:04 pm
  • Not sure what the point of burning Bruney was.
    Hey, we’re now in position for one of the all time greatest come backs! It’s a strategy!
    This reminds me of the 2001 playoff game against seattle in new york. But in reverse. And we don’t have anything close to a base runner.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:04 pm
  • Maybe we are looking at different plays.
    Motivation? Are you kidding me? There is motivation. There is desire. And at least right now, there is failure. Don’t confuse failure with lack of motivation.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 6:04 pm
  • I was surprised though AG that Jeter didn’t at least turn to see if there was a play at first. Guy coulda tripped and fallen on his way to first and Jeter never would have known. Thought that was an odd bit of Manny-esque pique.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:05 pm
  • …who’s the anon goof?…you were asked already to id yourself…get with it moron!

    dc October 7, 2006, 6:05 pm
  • so, who do you root for the rest of the way? My vote: the A’s

    Nick-YF October 7, 2006, 6:06 pm
  • There might be too much motivation, so to speak, AG. Part of the problem, I think.
    Hehe, that’s cool that your dog’s name is Nomar, Brad. I know Devine has a cat named Aristedes, after Manny’s middle name. I wonder who else has pets named after Sox/Yanks?

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:06 pm
  • …sorry brad…i missed your acknowledgment of the anon’s…oops

    dc October 7, 2006, 6:07 pm
  • dc, Brad already said it was him. He accidentally unchecked his Remember personal info box.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:07 pm
  • 12 outs for 7 runs. 8 for the win. Tough road to hoe against a guy who’s throwing a perfecto, and a reliever who tosses 100mph.
    Make it close, though, maybe, just maybe, the Tigers collapse.
    Yeah. Right.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:09 pm
  • DC – I did name myself, and I said sorry for the mix up. Now, I know you’re upset. Trust me I’ve been there, but to sink to name calling is well, bad.
    Where do you think you are – Yankee Stadium? Name calling is not cool here. When you’re at the Stadium (next year, of course) watching Johnson and Mussina again, feel free to call people names all you want. But for now, I’m definitely not a moron.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:09 pm
  • Take heart, yfs.
    No matter how sad you are, I bet you’re not nearly as broken-hearted as one Mr. Dan Shaughnessy.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:09 pm
  • No hitter is finally done.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:10 pm
  • Cano busts up the perfecto! Let’s Go Yanks! He almost had a hit earlier that was robbed by Monroe.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:10 pm
  • Cano breaks up the no-no on a chopper back through the box.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:10 pm
  • Yeah, I named him Nomar for my undying man- love for the guy. Kinda backfired on me, but I still love my dog and it’s too late to change it. Took me forever to get him to realize it was his name. No way I can start that one over again. hahah.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:11 pm
  • Pets? The Yanks have a dog named Alex. He goes into the 5-4 fc. Safe at first.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:13 pm
  • Did I miss something? Why is Shaughnessy broken hearted? Other than being a compete ivalid, of course – has something happened, Paul?

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:13 pm
  • Now that’s funny YF. Good to see you’re in good spirits.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:14 pm
  • Preview of what the fallout of this (probable) loss will be in terms of the New York media:
    “A-Rod dropped to No. 8 spot, makes error”
    –AP headline updating Yanks-Tigers previw with mid-game update.
    And he’s lucky he didn’t erase the Yanks’ only baserunner of the day on that groundout. The recriminations would be swift and loooouuuud

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:14 pm
  • Shaugnessy is love with the Yanks.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:14 pm
  • Shaughessy actually loves when the Yankees stick it to the Sox. He’s a fraud. He’d rather the Sox do terribly (like Ron Borges with the Pats) than do well: there’s more material for him when they do. Add Yankees success to Sox failure and Shaughnessy’s in heaven.

    SF October 7, 2006, 6:14 pm
  • Another FC. Ugh.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:15 pm
  • I say 6 outs until the YFSF “Call the NY Tabloid Headline” contest begins, but not before that.

    SF October 7, 2006, 6:15 pm
  • Rob beat me to the explanation. Back-to-back columns this week doing everything but proclaiming his unending allegiance to the Empire.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:15 pm
  • …brad, i did apologize a couple of posts ago at 6:07, just before your post, so i won’t take your insults personally…you are not a moron…and i am upset…i now understand how you felt back in august…this is a bummer…no hard feelings buddy…

    dc October 7, 2006, 6:15 pm
  • Paul, that’s an interesting thought, that perhaps NY got wrapped up in looking past Detroit. I don’t know.
    I have followed each game front to back; Detroit pitched pretty well in game one. Since then, the Tigers pitching has been phenomenal. What am I supposed to do? Discredit Detroit by saying that NY just sucked hitting wise and some other “motivated” team would have hit them? Up until right now Detroit had a no-hitter.
    If I credit Detroit, does that make it sound like I am letting NY off the hook? It’s no-win.
    Let’s put it this way. So far, Detroit pitching has been excellent, and I doubt it would matter too much who would be hitting against these guys right now, not that NY was up for the task anyway. New York pitching has fallen far short of the task.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 6:15 pm
  • So you think that was A-Rod’s last at bat as a Yank ever?

    Nick-YF October 7, 2006, 6:16 pm
  • oh ok – that I knew, but I thought you meant something more immediate happened today – well, other than this beat down.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:17 pm
  • Another ground out. Not. Going. Well.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:17 pm
  • There are two possibilities with A-rod….he is gone or Jeter gives him a poison laced protein drink.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:17 pm
  • A-Rod for Manny anyone? Steinbrenner makes that deal today, and my guess, so does A-Rod.
    Both teams benefit – just saying.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:18 pm
  • Yeah, AG, events have made my argument obsolete. It’s unrealistic to expect ANY lineup to win games when pitchers give up six-plus runs in consecutive games.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:18 pm
  • I think A-Rod is going to wind up with the Angels. That is the safest spot for him.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:19 pm
  • I would totally do the ARod-Manny straight-up trade.
    Incidentally, friend Jared YF, a Long Island native and sports editor of the paper where I work, says he plans to ring up Cashman and Theo on their cell phones after he gets off wrk and make a Rodriguez-for-bag-of-cookies trade happen.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:20 pm
  • yeah, DC. I din’t see your post because I was typing, so no biggie. But, to be fair – this is nowhere near what i felt in August! I figured the Sox to get back into it!

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:20 pm
  • If A-Rod ends up with the Angels, Mnny stays in Boton. LAA is the only team I’ve seen where a realistic trade scenario for Manny has been proposed (Manny for Ervin Santana, Brandon Wood and two high-end prospects).

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:21 pm
  • I am not so sure I would pull the trigger on that ARod-Manny trade so fast. Granted we would have a SS, however look at how he is doing with all the media attention in NY…just imagine what he would be like in Beantown?
    Plus if we have to get rid of Manny, I do not want to face the guy 18 times a year.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:22 pm
  • Ugh, typing problems. Sorry.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:22 pm
  • I bet if Theo made the call, the deal goes down and both players go on to be wildly successful in their new homes.
    It’s worth it for Cashman to save face on this one, and Theo would be putting A-Rod back where he belongs – At the 6 spot.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:22 pm
  • There was talk of Manny to Philly, but I am not so sure how realistic that would be.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:23 pm
  • I figure A-Rod gets a one season grace period because sfs are so happy to get him from the Yankees.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:23 pm
  • But can A-Rod curl up on his back while taking a nap on the recliner and look absolutely adorable while doing it — like Manny can?
    Sorry, Manny the cat again.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:24 pm
  • Anyone think there’s a chance that the Unit retires?

    SF October 7, 2006, 6:25 pm
  • I wonder how much of Manny’s personality would be accepted in the NY clubhouse?

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:25 pm
  • It’s definitely tough when you can bat around and probably still be behind.

    SF October 7, 2006, 6:26 pm
  • The ONLY bright side to this debacle of a performance by the Yankees is that my lady will be thrilled to see her Tigers, locked out of the playoffs for 20 years, advance to the next round. Anything that makes my woman happy in the last month of pregnancy is a good thing for me right now.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 6:26 pm
  • not to mention where he wanted to go in the first place – Boston. And we all know Manny would go out of his way to be off the chart successful in NY – his real home anyhow. He’d cut off his nose to spite his face on that one.
    Sorry, my dad used to say that to me when my Babe Ruth coach would put me in the outfield and I’d have bad games on purpose.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:26 pm
  • Nail meet coffin.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:26 pm
  • The Unit may just do that. His back is becoming a problem more and more each season.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:26 pm
  • Wow. Are the 2004-06 Yankees the worst big-game team in baseball history?
    They certainly rival the 1977-79 and 1946-49 Red Sox, and at least those teams kept it close in losing their decisive battles.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:26 pm
  • That is a wise observation AG.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:26 pm
  • That’s a major bright spot, Gerb. You’re a good man.

    SF October 7, 2006, 6:26 pm
  • SF: I think you that RJ will likely retire, and that the Yankees starting rotation will have only two holdovers: Wang and Mussina. Everyone else? Gone.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 6:28 pm
  • Any clubhouse that can incorporate Gary Sheffield with no ill effects (except for the above mentioned recent inability to advance in the playoffs) should be able to handle Manny, who by all accounts is a good clubhouse guy.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:28 pm
  • I agree Paul. His antics of not liking the press and his love of his privacy would be hard again with him playing for NY.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:30 pm
  • 56 pitches for Bonderman….yikes.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:30 pm
  • Make those Tee-Times boys!

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:30 pm
  • Does that mean the Yankees are going to tie up as much as $100 million in Zito and Matsuzaka in the off-season? I’d almost love for them to do it because it would hamstring their ability to make any other moves for a long time (as their inability to get Beltran proved, they do have a limit)

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:30 pm
  • How do the Yankees take on Manny? They already have a full outfield (Matsui, Damon, Abreu). Plus there’s Sheff the FA.
    Jeter singles! Let’s go…….

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:31 pm
  • If Manny seemed at all pervious to media criticism, I’d question it. But unlike A-Rod, he doesn’t care. He just hits. A lot.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:32 pm
  • this announcer, Johnny Blueskies, has to go. Y2K! He said Y2K.

    Nick-YF October 7, 2006, 6:32 pm
  • Abreu singles. First and third. No outs. Move it!

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:33 pm
  • May be time to pull Bonderman.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:33 pm
  • I think Manny in Philly is one of the most dangerous things ever. That place is the size of a high school ball park. Those two would absolutely destroy NL pitching if that happened.
    Besides, who would Philly give up?
    Utley would be nice. So would Rollins.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:34 pm
  • Sheff pops out. It’s not the Sheff we’re used to.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:35 pm
  • brad the talk was Rollins and some minor league players.
    Him and Howard together is scary.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:35 pm
  • He compared Ivan Rodriguez’s signing with the Marlins to being the “cool guy who decides to pledge the frat house that no one likes.”
    Even Lyons was struck speechless by the stpidity of the analogy.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:35 pm
  • Cashman looks like he is going to throw up.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:36 pm
  • Godzilla rbi. Only 7 more and we’re back!

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:36 pm
  • C’Mon YF. If NY has the chance to get Manny, they better move whomever they have to somewhere for somebody and make it happen. While those three OF’s are good, not one of them can hold ManRam’s cup as a player. Not one.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:36 pm
  • Better be some darn good minor-league players — and do the Phils have any starters? Because if we lose Manny, we better have a better rotation than we had this year. That strikes me as a no-go.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:37 pm
  • I’d take Rollins and some good young Arms. Then spin something to Atlanta for Jones and immediately sign him to a huge deal.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:37 pm
  • Jorge keeps the line moving. Need a long 2-out rally here.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:38 pm
  • Ryan+Manny=Nightmare for the NL. But isn’t that about the same as David+Manny?

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 6:38 pm
  • This is clearly Bonderman’s last inning. Just as the Yankees start gtting wood on the ball, there’s still Zumaya.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:38 pm
  • I’m nearly certain that the Sox are going to end up with one of those west coast starters. But locking up that SS spot with a guy like Rollins is a good move. He’s a great SS with great range and good bat.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:39 pm
  • No dice.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:39 pm
  • Brad, all that gets us is a fearsome lineup with the same problems on our pitching staff — even if the arms are only a year away, it leaves us looking downright Yankee-like.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:39 pm
  • See ya, guys. I am off to a dinner party.
    Go Mets! ;-)

    SF October 7, 2006, 6:40 pm
  • The only two decent pitchers the Phil’s have is Myers (12 wins) and Madsen (11 wins). They do have some good bullpen guys.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:40 pm
  • AG – yes, with significantly lesser talent on the mound everyday, which will equal a inordinate amount of profit from the middle of the lineup.
    Rowand’s a free agent as well, so they may try moving that outfield around. Rowand’s going to get a check (he’s only 27) and I don’t see Philly ponying up that kind of dough.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:41 pm
  • Yes that equation is true AG. But the Manny and David equation is looking like it is not going to happen anymore.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:42 pm
  • Detroit is about to clinch the ALDS. Wolverines 24, Spartans 0. I think I would have gotten lucky tonight, if that was still physically possible.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 6:43 pm
  • AG..your first kid?

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:44 pm
  • …the manny for arod trade benefits no one…the teams would be exchanging problems…to some extent both teams may be stuck with these mistakes unless they are willing to pay a lot of the freight [as in salary] to other teams…i say that because both are damaged goods…while they are talented fellows, manny has earned the reputation for being a bit of a slacker, quitter, and unreliable, while arod has earned the title of being the most talented choke in baseball history…who would want either of them given the heavy baggage?…possibly in manny’s favor is that you can probably count on him to show up for the post season…

    dc October 7, 2006, 6:44 pm
  • Yes, our first. Her name is Ella, and she is due November 4th. Her mom loves the Tigers/Pistons/Broncos (Lions are too hard to root for)/and above all, the Red Wings. I’m Yanks/JailBlazers/Seahawks/and NHL team to be named later. Sorry NHL, you lost me. Used to be Sabres. I like the Portland Winterhawks junior league team.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 6:46 pm
  • Congrats in advance, AG!
    What baseball team will Ella be indoctrinated into rooting for?

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:49 pm
  • The first one is really cool. A lot of lost sleep, but overall it is cool watching them grow. I have 2 sons, 12 & 10. Congratulations.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:50 pm
  • I had a long conversation with a Cubs fan that I ran into completely randomly last night. He’s big into fantasy ball, stats junkie, and we talked about ARod, Manny, Ortiz, DLee, Joe G, Joe T, Dusty, and everything else under the baseball sun.
    His take on ARod was short and beautifully sweet: “Should have stayed in fucking Seattle.”
    I can’t say he was wrong about that or anything else he said.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 6:50 pm
  • I’m betting A-Rod goes yard here. Would pretty much sum his season.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:51 pm
  • Oooh, classy: “A-Rod Sucks” chant going around. Not even Sox fans have done that one.
    He flies out, and the crowd erupts. Can’t say I blame them for that though.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:52 pm
  • Thanks so much everyone for the kind words. Paul, to answer your question, this is so sappy, but she has both a Tigers and a Yankiees onesey. Gah.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 6:52 pm
  • Junkyard perhaps

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:52 pm
  • Instead it’s a long fly. Maybe that sums it.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:52 pm
  • 80 pitches through 8 for Bonderman? Beautiful performance.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 6:53 pm
  • Philip Hughes. Philip Hughes. Philip Hughes. Philip Hughes. Philip Hughes. Philip Hughes. Philip Hughes. Philip Hughes. Philip Hughes. Philip Hughes. Philip Hughes. Philip Hughes. Philip Hughes.
    YFs, just keep repeating it. And pray we can clone him.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:54 pm
  • Get out the white nike’s and the kool aid. The Haley Bop Comet club is riding high tonight in NY.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:54 pm
  • Let me get this straight –
    you wife doesn’t like the Yankees and saddles up with the Broncos?
    Excellent decision, AG.
    The Broncos are my savior every year…

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:54 pm
  • At some point though, I imagine she’ll choose. Good luck with that, lol.
    My wife was a passive Texas Rangers fan, allowing her to be easily swayed into rooting for the Red Sox with me. No controversy in this household whenever we have kids. That kid’s going to be able to recite the lifetime stats of Ted Williams upon exiting the womb.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:55 pm
  • That’s it – put all that faith in a unproven talent. I love it. It takes a couple years, YF. Take it from SF’s.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:55 pm
  • Ella, Isaac, and Eliza: the future of the blog.

    YF October 7, 2006, 6:57 pm
  • My wife was a Padres fan. try explainging to someone from SoCal that the Padres sucks. The 04 season enlightened my wife to baseball.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:57 pm
  • If the Sox can finagle trading Manny, Coco, Hansen and another prospect — plus eating salary — into Ervin Santana, Brandon Wood, Andruw Jones and top-line prospects, and then sign Zito to boot, this will have been a very productive offseason.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 6:58 pm
  • Padres have a great catcher.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:58 pm
  • True Brad.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 6:58 pm
  • I say no to Hansen. He’s good and it will show at some point.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 6:59 pm
  • Brad: She was born and raised in Detroit; sports nut through and through. Loves the Tigers, always has. Went to college in Boulder, was able to shake off the shackles of the Lions and latched onto the Broncs. Hates the Yankees. So does her entire family. We got pregnant the night the Wings beat Colorado in the playoffs.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 6:59 pm
  • how bad has it gotten when the last and final game of the Yankee season is on TV and winner take all, and we’re talking about out kids (and on the way kids)?

    Brad October 7, 2006, 7:00 pm
  • I agree Brad, but we’re going to have to give up young talent to get Jones. Delcarmen has shown more major leaue promise than Hansen at this point — though Hansen’s much younger. So I could see either way…

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 7:00 pm
  • Our last shot of Jeter for the year: a line out to right in the 8th of a blowout. Really not the way we wanted to see him end things this year, no matter the circumstance. The only Yankee star who can boast even a decent series.

    YF October 7, 2006, 7:02 pm
  • Is she on the Cutler bandwagon? I happen to be a huge Jake Plummer fan, but I can’t wait to see the kid play. He easily takes over the spot of “strongest arm in the NFL” when he steps over center for good. We used to have a regular poster named Spidey who was a Bronco fan as well.
    Congrats on the baby as well.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 7:02 pm
  • Because we were kids. Playing baseball as a kid, watching baseball as a kid, and watching kids play baseball is why it is the best game ever invented, as far as I am concerned.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 7:02 pm
  • Ha, I still play now! I can’t get it out of my system, haha.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 7:04 pm
  • Brad: she’s behind Plummer all the way.
    Inge (who is the one Tiger yet to do anything) singles to start the bottom of eight.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 7:04 pm
  • …ag…congrats on the baby…being a dad is better than winning the world series…

    dc October 7, 2006, 7:05 pm
  • Sheff with an E at first. I have to say that even though he deserves that relatively non-consequential error, he has requited himself well at first.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 7:08 pm
  • Brad, you still play baseball? I play beer-league softball sometimes, but I still love throwing hardball. I have not found an outlet for that other than playing catch with my buddies.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 7:09 pm
  • That was ugly, from Sheff.
    BTW, I assume everyone will be back here tomorrow for the fallout and analysis, and of course we’ll be doing our thing through the playoffs and then on thru the offseason, but this just seems like a good time to thank everyone, yfs and sfs, for making 2006 the best ever year for yfsf, if not our respective teams. so there’s somehting we can all hang our hats on. everone except a-rod, that is. (joke!)

    YF October 7, 2006, 7:11 pm
  • A-Rod’s been holding this site back for a while ;-) He only posts great comments after the thread’s all but over…

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 7:13 pm
  • Bonderman out for the complete game.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 7:14 pm
  • …paul, re. your trade scenario: it looks like you want to turn water into wine…unless you catch those other teams with their pants down, and your ownership is finally going to shake the moths out of their wallets, you’ll need to scare up some more value to make all that happen…as for zito, i believe the rumor is that he wants to go to one of the ny teams, boston has not been mentioned…after the yanks epic pitching collapse, look for them to be the front-runner and overpay for zito…ugh, they just showed the tigers getting the clubhouse ready to celebrate…

    dc October 7, 2006, 7:14 pm
  • YF: Thanks to you and SF for making a place where baseball fans can come to enjoy this great game.
    Go Yankees.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 7:14 pm
  • Yeah, I played in college, then on the cape for two summers, and this year for our local ind. team the New Haven Cutters, but the problem is: I can’t handle being poor, so I was forced to grow up and fill in for the Cutters every now and then if they need me. I’m on the bench for most home games, but I didn’t travel at all. I was on the website for them for awhile as a utility guy, but I have not checked in awhile.
    I also played on a over-28 wood bat saturday leauge this year which was fun. Most states have them, you should check into it.
    Also – let Zumaya shut the door on this one. Seven games to come!

    Brad October 7, 2006, 7:14 pm
  • This should be an interesting offseason with a lot of questions for both teams.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 7:15 pm
  • Bonderman still has a great slider to put Sheff 1-2.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 7:16 pm
  • Brad, you’re from New Haven? I was born there and grew up in West Haven and North Haven…

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 7:16 pm
  • Craig Monroe makes an INCREDIBLE catch to rob Sheff of a single. That says it all.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 7:16 pm
  • I envision a more comprehensive post — at least on my part — with a wishlist of what the Sox could and should do this offseason, as well as some recap-type stuff…

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 7:17 pm
  • Monroe with his second great diving catch.

    YF October 7, 2006, 7:19 pm
  • Yeah I live in the Westville section near Hopkins, Paul. I actually went to my first year of college at SCSU before going to UCONN. I’m a Chemist for the local water company, but out of college I worked for Bayer which is what brought me here. Oh, and a girl. I’m staying because I’m heading to Pace Law in the Fall, and I happen to love it here.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 7:19 pm
  • Two down. Last out for the season.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 7:22 pm
  • Wow, my parents’ first house — where I lived until I was 4 — was in Westville, close to Whalley Ave., iirc.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 7:23 pm
  • Posada makes it 8-3.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 7:23 pm
  • Jorge. 8-3. Too little…..

    YF October 7, 2006, 7:23 pm
  • “Thanks for Nuthin'” Posada.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 7:24 pm
  • …paul, that would be interesting to see from both the yanks and sox perspective…what does the gang think their respective teams need to do in the offseason…there are yf’s here that are much more qualified than me, so i defer…
    …ag, good luck to you and your wife, and good luck to her tigers as they continue through the playoffs…
    …to all the sf and yf fans that i’ve sparred with [or agreed with] over the past couple of months, thanks for an enjoyable and informative time…

    dc October 7, 2006, 7:24 pm
  • Ballgame.

    Paul SF October 7, 2006, 7:24 pm
  • Cano is robbed on the first pitch. Outside and low.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 7:24 pm
  • Ha! I actually live on Fountain Street, which is the next street over –
    Small world, I guess.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 7:26 pm
  • Laura says, “The Roar has been restored.”

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 7:26 pm
  • Sign in the stands:
    Johnny D, you forgot your playoff beard in Boston.

    Rob October 7, 2006, 7:27 pm
  • Congratulations, Tigers. Now go win it all.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 7:27 pm
  • Uggh. Sorry to see this, YF. I really thought the Yankees would take it all this year. But anything can happen in a short series, and man, did it ever.
    What I worry about Is that after this, no one will fear the Yankees in the same way, at least in the postseason. It’s like Angels, well, they’re just one freak team that has the Yankees’ number. The Red Sox, sure, God was on their side that year. But now if Detroit can do it, anyone can do it. And it four games, yet. Sure they deserve props for owning the best record for most of the year, and turning themselves all the way around after losing 119 in 2003, but still…the lineup! How could the Yankees lose with that lineup?
    Well, better luck next year, YF. At least Posada provided a sliver of dignity at the end.

    IvanX (AF) October 7, 2006, 7:28 pm
  • I’m going to get dinner. Take it in stride, Yankee fans. It’s less than five months until pitchers and catchers report.

    attackgerbil October 7, 2006, 7:29 pm
  • Ha –
    I just saw a sign that read:
    Fitting today, for sure.
    Watching this team celebrate remainds me of what a team looks like – not a bunch of all star hitters and pitchers, but just a bunch of dirty ass guys that love to play ball and would do it for free if they could. I love this, even when it’s not the Sox. I love watching baseball players that are exactly not what everyone makes them out to be.
    The Gambler just dumped beer on the cop. Indeed. I’m rooting for this team the rest of the way, even though I love the A’s and I love to see Billy’s theory work to perfection.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 7:34 pm
  • “How could the Yankees lose with that lineup?”
    It’s all about pitching, for now and always…

    Andrews October 7, 2006, 7:50 pm
  • And BTW: I hope these guys BBQ Beane and his moneyball BS.

    Andrews October 7, 2006, 7:51 pm
  • Hey, Brad, I still peek in when I can, though admittedly I’ve been a bit AWOL with respect to YFSF. Esp. on dismal days like this when the Yanks have their asses handed to them by a team that almost lost 120 games not too long ago. Ugh. Just too painful. It’s to the point where I even feel almost bad for ARod. But so yeah, go Broncos. If Ray Lewis pulls a shiv and makes life miserable for the Snake this coming Monday, look for Shanny accelerate the Cutler break-in process. You’re right, young Jay has a absolute cannon for an arm, so I’m hoping he’s the next coming of Johnny E (and not, uh, Jeff George). Something for you, me, and Mrs. AG to look forward to…

    Spidey October 7, 2006, 8:30 pm
  • Hey, Spidey! Long time no speak. Nice to see you’re still around. Oh, and Baltimore is severly overrated.
    My guess is Jake runs the ball quite a bit this week, and keeps them well back on their heels.
    Andrews – don’t be upset with Moneyball because over two hundred million couldn’t do it for the Yanks – again.

    Brad October 7, 2006, 10:08 pm
  • …and 120 million bucks buys you 3rd place…phew, i’m getting tired chasing you around to correct your posts…

    dc October 7, 2006, 10:33 pm
  • then don’t – the one third place leg you refuse to not stand on is tired, boring and quite frankly, no one cares who finished third. Just like, no one will remember who won the AL East. The result is the same, essentially – only Henry spent a hundred million less than Steinbrenner to get the same result. No ring.

    Anonymous October 7, 2006, 10:56 pm
  • PS – let’s pick a thread and argue there – all this jumping around and fighting the same fight is silly. I say go to the top if you’d like to continue the banter.

    Anonymous October 7, 2006, 10:57 pm

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