Shark Cage Rubber Match: Yanks/SatanFish Gamer III

The New York Post reports that the Yankees and the Phillies are close to finalizing the trade for Abreu. Peter Abraham observed yesterday that Abreu has been homerless since June 13th.

All the bats in the world wouldn’t have helped New York yesterday as the SatanFish thoroughly devoured Quint, played by Randy Johnson. And Chrissy Watkins, played by Chacon. And Alex Kintner, played by Myers. And anonymous surfer dude whose leg gets eaten and dies just to show it’s still not safe to go back in the water, played by Beam. And evened the set while knocking the Yanks a game and a half behind Boston. Today, New York sends Moose out to sea in the role of Police Chief Martin Brody. Or at least as Matt Hooper. James Shields plays the role of Bruce the shark for TBSF. Cue the double bass and post away.

301 comments… add one

  • “We’re doomed!!!!!” (sentiment on most Yankee blogs this morning)

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 12:44 pm
  • I realize the post is not correct to the chronology of the movie, and that I should have had Randy play Chrissy, but Randy looks and acts like he was born to play Quint. And god help the person that calls Randy “Chrissy”, even if is just to make a metaphor work, if he ever finds them.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 12:55 pm
  • Lineup:
    J. Damon cf .294
    D. Jeter ss .352
    J. Giambi dh .250
    A. Rodriguez 3b .283
    J. Posada c .285
    A. Guiel rf .218
    A. Phillips 1b .242
    M. Cabrera lf .281
    M. Cairo 2b .234

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:01 pm
  • You’re gonna need a bigger boat.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 1:03 pm
  • Mussina retires Lugo on looking, three pitches.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:09 pm
  • Cabrera catches the pop in left for the second out.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:10 pm
  • Baldelli takes high for ball one. The 1-0 is a strike called. The 1-1 is low and away. The 2-1 is a high breaking pitch for 3 and 1. Baldelli fouls off the 3-1 to make it full. The crowd does the moose call. Payoff pitch: just missed outside. Very close pitch.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:12 pm
  • About 4 inches off the plate. Good eye by Baldelli.
    Lee takes strike one. Fouls one off to make it 0-2. Moose misses outside to make it 1-2. The 1-2 is fouled.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:14 pm
  • more on the Abreu trade:
    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=MLB&id=2304&line=186957&spln=1
    not sure if that fit, but the gist is that they Yanks would get Abreu and Lidle for Steven White and CJ Henry. Not a bad deal IMHO.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 1:15 pm
  • Ump not giving Moose some very close pitches. Hmph.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:15 pm
  • Moose gets Lee swinging. Good first for Mike.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:15 pm
  • Nick:
    That would be a decent deal, provided Yanks don’t have to pick up Abreu’s 2008 option (which is what I heard)…

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:16 pm
  • between innings chatter: AG and YM, what you think of the potential deal?

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 1:16 pm
  • In terms of talent given up and $$ considerations, what I said above. What worries me is 1) Abreu’s mysterious power outage; 2) How does that affect Melky and Bernie’s playing time; and 3) How will the trade affect the elusive “team chemistry”

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:20 pm
  • Being a fantasy owner of Abreu my only fear is that he’s been playing terribly the past month and a half. Change on scenery may be exactly what he needs and then again, facing all new pitchers may only compound his hitting woes of late.
    I’m in favor of getting Abreu but for all of the Phillies issues as a team, hitting in the 1-6 roles have not been one of them.

    walein July 30, 2006, 1:22 pm
  • I’m fine with it affecting Bernie’s playing time. We need to see less Bernie. Re: Melky. I love the Melkster but Abreu is a significant upgrade offensively. We should view Cabrera as a 4th outfielder. The days of Bubba should be over.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 1:23 pm
  • The captain continues his imitation of Ichiro. What a season!
    MVP MVP MVP

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 1:24 pm
  • From all accounts Abreu’s only problem as a personality in Ph. is that he isn’t a “team leader” type of personality. He’s quiet and sort of just goes about his business…a mix in personalities between edgar renteria and manny ramirez.
    The one thing he has in his favor is that the Yankee fan base will by and large be ignorant of Abreu’s career and may be a little easier on him in his transition (as oppossed to American league hitting giants we’ve brought over in the past).

    walein July 30, 2006, 1:25 pm
  • I’m not particularly interested in Abreu for how much he is getting paid.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:25 pm
  • Oh, absolutely we need to see as little of Bernie as possible. What scares me is that Bernie will go to LF, for which he has neither range nor arm, and Melky will go to the bench until Matsui comes back. A Melky-Damon-Abreu OF would be OK. Maybe Yanks can throw Bubba into the Abreu deal? Otherwise I don’t see how this team can ever be rid of him. Didn’t he hit Cairo in the face with a throw yesterday?

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:26 pm
  • YM, I would hope Torre has Melky higher on the depth chart than Bernie. But, you’re right, there’s a possibility that we see the same amount of Bernie and less Melky. Aggh.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 1:28 pm
  • Giambi continues his dominance. Batting 195 over the past 4 weeks. (and for those of you that like to point to his obp…323 during that time.)

    walein July 30, 2006, 1:28 pm
  • Laptop battery was nearing empty, so I plugged it into the wall and the power surge reset my Tivo. Missed most of that inning, but I caught the bad third strike call on the tip.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:28 pm
  • by the way, a Bernie/Melky platoon would make some sense. Bernie still rakes lefties and Melky’s been great against righties. Just a thought.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 1:29 pm
  • Every single time Giambi comes up to bat, Kay goes on an on how he could have an easy hit if he just hit the ball to the left side. Shouldn’t it have gotten old after the first 200 or so ABs when it’s obvious that’s not the way Giambi hits?

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:29 pm
  • uggh. This guy is very hittable. This is a game we need to win.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 1:31 pm
  • Nice to see Jeter got a single. He’s hitting close to .400 since the break.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:31 pm
  • Abreu has been pulled from the line-up after being penciled in for the first game of the DbH.

    walein July 30, 2006, 1:31 pm
  • Gomes takes away ball one. This ump is calling a VERY tight plate.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:32 pm
  • Did ARod get jobbed on that call? Looked like he foultipped it.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:32 pm
  • Another 1-2-3 inning for Moose on line outs to Damon and Jeter.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:33 pm
  • A 5 pitch inning for Moose. Awesome.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:33 pm
  • Yes, he totally got jobbed. He tipped it in the dirt; it bounced off the ground into the catchers glove, and the ump called strike three.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:33 pm
  • I guess he’s the anti Doug Eddings. Grr.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:34 pm
  • I think walein just broke news of the Abreu deal.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 1:35 pm
  • ?

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:35 pm
  • Nick: I read your links. I guess I am just not excited about that trade at all. I was hoping to see some deal that involved a decent pitcher, not a questionable hitter and pitcher.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:35 pm
  • Then again I look at the Guiel’s numbers as the starting Yankee right fielder and I feel queasy.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:37 pm
  • I’m not sure Abreu can be classified as a questionable hitter. His OBP is .425, he’s doing fine in the doubles department, and he steals a lot of bases. He’s good. Maybe he’s past his prime or maybe he got tired of dealing with the shit of Philadelphia. I think Lidle is an improvement over Ponson and Wright. That’s not praise but I liked him more as an option than Lieber.

    Anonymous July 30, 2006, 1:38 pm
  • It’s 2-1 to Guiel. He grounds out to second for two away after Posada flew out to left.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:38 pm
  • YM, walein pointed out that Abreu was a late scratch in the phillies game.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 1:38 pm
  • that anon post was me. oops.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 1:39 pm
  • Clarifying questionable: I meant declining as of late. Compound that with the contract and it’s just not very appealing, but I understand it definitely is an upgrade in RF. Especially with the news that Sheff is likely at least another 6 weeks out.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:40 pm
  • Oh. Missed that.
    It appears that Yanks are experiencing a case of what the fine folks at BB call URPs*….
    *Unknown Rookie Pitcher syndrome

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:40 pm
  • AP strike three looking. Ugh.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:41 pm
  • Abreu was int he lineup right up until 3 minutes before the game (I say this thru gritted teeth because I was not given sufficient time to switch him out of my fantasy lineup for today).
    By the way, for any of you who have a father who is a Mets fan, Beltran just hit another grandslam off of the Braves. Remember when the Mets couldn’t ever beat the Braves?

    walein July 30, 2006, 1:42 pm
  • besides Jeter, who’s been hitting for the Yanks lately. I guess Melky and then everyone falls off.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 1:42 pm
  • Woooo! There goes the no-hitter.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:43 pm
  • Moose starts with two balls to Perez. The 2-0 fouls off left. The 2-1 is bunted. It’s a very good bunt, and Posada makes an errant throw to first. Perez is on second with the single and the advance on the error.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:43 pm
  • Another bunt pushes Perez to third. One away.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:45 pm
  • When will they learn to just hang on to the ball when it’s a bunt like that? How many times has the catcher thrown the ball away? Yuck.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:45 pm
  • Moose gets Lugo swinging with the high fastball.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:46 pm
  • Moose Ks Lugo swinging on a pitch that was around his eyebrows. Nice.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:46 pm
  • Lugo could be a possible Red Sock by tomorrow.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 1:47 pm
  • High to Crawford for ball one. Next pitch is fouled off for 1-1.
    Strike three looking.
    Awesomeness, Moose. Way to pitch out of a jam.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:48 pm
  • Say it isn’t so. In for AGone? He’s not nearly as good defensively…

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:48 pm
  • Nick: Johnny’s been hitting .313 since the break.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:49 pm
  • Gahhhhh, stop with the first pitch swinging already!

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:50 pm
  • *keeping fingers crossed that Melky is still a Yankee at the end of today*
    Cabrera grounds out softly to second for the first out, bottom third.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:50 pm
  • I know I’m way late on this: Buster Olney reporting same thing: tentavive deal, Abreau and Lidle to Phils for Henry other prospects. Also saying Red Sox talking to SD about Linebrink for Lowell.
    And Lugo might be coming in, too. Lugo. What’s so great about Lugo?

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 1:50 pm
  • According to ESPN News, the Yanks have reached a tentative deal for Abreu.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 1:50 pm
  • Cairo starts to show bunt, then doesn’t bunt but doesn’t swing either, and looks at strike one. The 0-1 is away. The 1-1is swung on and hit to center for the single.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:52 pm
  • Damon singles to left on the pitch away. Cairo holds at second.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:53 pm
  • Abreu and Lidle are going to the Yankees, according to ESPN.com.
    My heart is beating a mile a minute until I hear that we left Hughes et al alone.

    yankeesnj July 30, 2006, 1:53 pm
  • Jeter! Doubles to the wall, scoring Cairo and Damon, Jeter to third on the throw to the plate.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:54 pm
  • Hey, and since that deal was announced, the Yankees take a 2-0 lead.
    Instant karma!

    yankeesnj July 30, 2006, 1:54 pm
  • MVJ! Captain, my Captain.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:55 pm
  • Abreau still has to waive no-trade clause. This means Sheff won’t be back in ’07.
    That’s a hell of a deal for the Yanks, who once again give up nothing because they have the $$$ to absorb huge salaries.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 1:55 pm
  • TBSF IBBs Giambi to get to ARod.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:55 pm
  • Um. Linebrink for Lowell, AGone for Lugo? What’s going to happen to the vaunted Sox defense? Any SFs awake to comment?

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:56 pm
  • Hughes, apparently, is not involved.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 1:56 pm
  • 2-0 Yanks, Gotta disagree w/you AG. Abreu is going to be a great spark for this line-up. I agree about getting a servicable pitcher instead, but Abreu is good to go in my book.

    bloodyank78 July 30, 2006, 1:56 pm
  • Hell! We get Lidle too?

    bloodyank78 July 30, 2006, 1:57 pm
  • All accurate points, Bill.
    ARod takes strike one. ARod swings and misses on a pitch low and away for strike two. Shields throws back to first. ARod goes down on three pitches swinging.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:57 pm
  • Hmm. Olney reports CJ Henry and Matt Smith + Minor leaguer to be named later for Abreu and Lidle. I liked Smith :-(

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 1:58 pm
  • BY: Yeah, I have to disagree with myself, too. It looks like a no brainer when I realistically look at Sheffield’s return date, and what we have had out there in right for the past couple months.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:59 pm
  • I think the choice is really Abreu or Sheff, right? From what I’ve read about Abreu, and factoring in his salary, I think I’d rather have him.
    I’d be pissed about giving up Henry, though. I know he’s only 19 and has a long way to go, but he was our top pick last year and we’re supposed to be rebuilding through the draft, right?
    Lidle’s K/IP is very good, which is a good sign. And yes, I don’t see how he could be worse than Wright/Ponson.

    Sam July 30, 2006, 1:59 pm
  • Din’t say anything about AGone for Lugo. Just that the chatter is that Lugo might headed to Boston. And I don’t know why. what does he bring that they don’t have?
    Lowell for Linebrink: Dump salary and add to a weakness. God, I don’t like breaking up that infield. Buster last night said something about Loretta, too.
    Chatter is that any Red Sox deal would involve multiple teams. I guess that means more than 2.
    What does Abreau do to address Yankees bullpen problems?

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 1:59 pm
  • It’s a _lot_ of money.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 1:59 pm
  • Bill: Nothing, and that is what bothers me the most about the deal.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:00 pm
  • But, with the surplus of outfielders, maybe there is another deal in the works.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:01 pm
  • ESPN now reporting the trade like it solves the Israeli-Palentinian conflict.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 2:01 pm
  • Surplus of OFs = trade Melky? No thanks.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:02 pm
  • Bill is also right about the Sox – if they have AGon, why are they so keen on another SS? Makes absolutely no sense to me.

    Sam July 30, 2006, 2:02 pm
  • Baldelli leads off the top of the fourth. Mussina comes inside with a change for ball one. The 1-0 is grounded back to Moose who throws 1-3 for the first out.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:03 pm
  • Travis Lee up. He takes low for ball one.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:04 pm
  • Unless they flip Lugo for …. ?

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 2:04 pm
  • Lugo would go to 2b. Loretta would be involved in a trade.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:04 pm
  • The 1-0 is a breaking pitch for a strike. The 1-1 is a flare to center for a single. Fastball hung over the middle.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:04 pm
  • Some of the rumors out there make absolutely no sense. Bill is right, if Sox do make a trade it’ll probably be a multi-team deal. I still don’t see the point of breaking up the best infield in the majors.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:04 pm
  • I reality though where is Melky going to fit next season? Abreu and Godzilla w/be the RF and LF respectfully. Will the Melkster just be a solid bench OF for the team?

    bloodyank78 July 30, 2006, 2:05 pm
  • I thought Loretta was having a good year? Oh well…it’s all rumors. I don’t believe that Theo’s lost his mind.

    Sam July 30, 2006, 2:06 pm
  • “What does Abreau do to address Yankees bullpen problems?”
    This is an odd argument. Abreu shores up one glaring problem in the Yankees line-up. BP argued that adding Abreu would add almost 2 wins for the Yanks the rest of the way. Looking at the standings, that’s significant.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:06 pm
  • Cantu fouls for strike one. The 0-1 is a fastball that is called a ball inside, missed the corner. The 1-1 is inside again for 2-1. The next pitch is a breaking pitch inside for ball 3. The 3-1 is low for ball 4.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:07 pm
  • BY78 – both Keith Law and Rob Neyer (the two smartest MLB guys over at ESPN) project Melky as a very good fourth OF for a major team. This would, I guess, mean that Bubba’s days as a Yankee are over.

    Sam July 30, 2006, 2:07 pm
  • Apparently Cash’s plan is to beat the opposition into submission with offense. But what’s the use of scoring 15 runs when you can easily give up 16.
    Then again, if you make the playoffs, you have Moose, CMW, maybe Johnson gets it right, and then Mo. That might be all it takes. So just how much is Cash rolling the dice, here?

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 2:08 pm
  • The reason why you’re saying the Sox have the best fielding infield again? They don’t make errors? I thought errors were an obsolete measure of defense. Is it a fact that the Sox have the best infield defense. I thought the D-Backs’ was pretty good.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:08 pm
  • Melky would probably still get a lot of ABs next year, with Matsui/Abreu/Damon splitting some time at DH. A good bat off the bench and a much needed improvement over our friend Bubba.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:09 pm
  • Bill, given the market, it’s a lot harder to get an impact front-line starter/reliever.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:09 pm
  • I love this time of year. And then ESPN kills it with stupidity and overanalysis.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 2:10 pm
  • I don’t know what Mussina has to do to get a strike off this ump. Okay, there’s a fastball for a strike to make it 2-2.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:10 pm
  • ESPN kills a lot good things.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:11 pm
  • missing “of”

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:11 pm
  • A 2-2 is looped to left by Gomes and scores a run.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:12 pm
  • By the way, Bill, your name makes me sad every time I read it.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:12 pm
  • Blergh.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:12 pm
  • Matsui/Damon/Abreu w/Melky as a fourth OF sounds great to me. If Abreu does end up being in Pinstripes in the next couple of days, one of the things I am really looking forward to is having a cannon arm in RF for once.

    bloodyank78 July 30, 2006, 2:13 pm
  • Completely agreed, Nick. not just harder, almost impossible.
    Everyone wanted the same thing – pitching – and its not out there. So you have to get creative. Theo decided to go with the kids and it’s worked.
    I also would say that that’s when the Yankee resources give them an edge. They can “take that salary off your hands.”

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 2:13 pm
  • Is he a good fielder?

    Sam July 30, 2006, 2:14 pm
  • I’ll ‘fess up. Who is Bill McNeal?

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:14 pm
  • ” Theo decided to go with the kids and it’s worked.”
    it’s worked for the bullpen, but the starters are another issue.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:14 pm
  • Why does it make you sad?

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 2:14 pm
  • Phil Hartman’s (RIP, great man) Newsradio character.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:15 pm
  • Bill McNeal was the name of Phil Hartman’s character on News Radio.

    walein July 30, 2006, 2:15 pm
  • 1-1 to Branyan is a strike on the corner. 1-2, one out, two on: outside. The 2-2 is low and away, and the count is full. Full count: foul tip but Posada can’t hold on. Another payoff: hit high in the air to right center. Damon makes the catch. Cantu tags to third. Perez coming up.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:16 pm
  • I see. Thanks.
    Moose flirting with danger…

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:16 pm
  • Bill McNeal was Phil Hartman’s character on the TV show News Radio. I loved Hartman. He was the last truly funny person on SNL, and McNeal was one fo the great TV characters of all time.
    Nick, I’m proud that you recognized it. I thought it might be a bit to 90s.
    It is my homage to Hartman.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 2:16 pm
  • I think the Sox would be very happy with Linebrink…until Bobby Abreu smashed one off of him in the bottom of the 8th!

    walein July 30, 2006, 2:17 pm
  • Walein,
    True, but considering Abreu’s power outage I wouldn’t bet on it….a bases-clearing double is a much likelier possibility.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:18 pm
  • Moose gets up on Perez quickly to 0-2. The ump blows another call on a tip, this time Perez misses the ball and was headed back to the dug out, yet the ump says he did tip it. Now the D-Rays tie the game at two on a single to right. That’s just bullshit.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:19 pm
  • Hartman was brilliant. His Sinatra is the gold standard in imitations.
    I’m 28, so News Radio was during my time.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:19 pm
  • Two horrible calls, and an anemic strike zone.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:20 pm
  • Did Mussina run over the ump’s dog or something?

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:20 pm
  • Moose is even, 1-1 to Paul. Paul fouls it back to make it 1-2: is in the dirt. The 2-2 from Moose is a high fastball swung on and missed to end the top of the fourth.
    I’m still STEAMED at the ump. Lopez thought he was out himself! He was headed back to the dugout. Pathetic.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:22 pm
  • Guiel takes ball one, then fouls one back left. The 1-1 is cut hard up first but foul. The 1-2 is lined back up the middle for a single.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:25 pm
  • Maybe Aaron Guiel’s last hit as a Yank?
    Who is the odd man out when Abreu gets here?

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:25 pm
  • Guiel is out caught stealing.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:28 pm
  • Bye bye Aaron.

    Sam July 30, 2006, 2:30 pm
  • AP flies out to deep center. Melky works the count to 2 and 2 is a weak roller up first. Shields tags out Cabrera to end the inning. We head to the fifth tied at two.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:31 pm
  • We should hope the odd man out is Bubba. Although with Guiel’s baserunning just now, could be him.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:31 pm
  • I know everyone’s focused on the Yakee’s offensive injuries, but looking at last night’s game, it seems hitting isn’t really the problem the Yankees should be concerned with… Lidle’s pitched pretty well of late.*
    I’ll agree that the Sox hav the best defensive infield in baseball, arbitrary stats aside, but none of these guys (except Youk) was really in the plans to be here next year anyway. Gonzo has been hitting great, so I’m not sure he’s as expendable as he was, and it seems foolish to give up a .300/200-hit guy. Lowell, we’ve discussed. The problem is Lugo is an offensive improvement over Gonzalez only, and a defensive improvement over no one. However, he is young, and can be kept for a longer period of time than either of the current three…
    Breaking up that infield doesn’t give me good feelings… Not for someone like Lugo anyway. Now if we’re going to trade Lorretta for Tejada, move Gonzo to second and let Pedroia take over for him next year? Freakin’ A, make that trade…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 2:31 pm
  • Odd men out: Guiel, Bernie.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:31 pm
  • * In the National League.

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 2:32 pm
  • And now there’s this on the Boston Globe’s Website:
    The Globe’s Nick Cafardo shed some light on the Red Sox as Monday’s trade deadline creeps closer: “Team sources [Saturday] night indicated the Sox aren’t close to a deal, and disputed a report that center fielder Coco Crisp is being shopped. Crisp has been mostly quiet and sometimes snippy lately. But the Sox, according to one National League general manager, have been ‘burning up the phone lines. I don’t think there’s a team trying any harder than Boston to make a deal over the last 24 hours.’ So we wait. The Padres had scouts at Fenway [Saturday], presumably focusing on the Sox. In need of a third baseman, the Padres have been eyeing Mike Lowell and Kevin Youkilis, but were told that neither was available in a trade for righthanded setup man Scott Linebrink. Major league sources say the Sox may be lining up a couple of deals, with one contingent upon the other. There are signs the Sox might still be in on the Julio Lugo talks with Tampa Bay. Fox Sports reported the Cardinals are interested in Red Sox second baseman Mark Loretta, which could be the prelude to a deal for Lugo, who would play second in Boston. The Orioles also had scouts at Fenway [Saturday], presumably to watch the Angels in a possible deal for Baltimore shortstop Miguel Tejada. The Sox are still interested in Colorado first base prospect Ryan Shealy. The Phillies have been mentioned as a possible trade partner with many teams. Starters Jon Lieber and Cory Lidle, lefthanded relievers Arthur Rhodes and Rheal Cormier, and outfielder Bobby Abreu all have been mentioned in scenarios involving the Sox. Lieber, Lidle, and Abreu have also been linked to possible deals with the Yankees. Sox GM Theo Epstein has not been available to comment for a few days. Owner John W. Henry said in an e-mail in response to if he felt a deal needed to be made, ‘Our record thus far is indicative of a very strong team. Everyone has needs. There are no perfect teams this year.’” … ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark gave us this info on the Sox: “All we know for sure is that they’ve spent a lot of time this week talking with the Padres, Indians, A’s and Rangers — and those teams have been networking with several other clubs. We also know it sure is tough trying to put together trades that complicated when the clock is ticking on the 31st. So Sunday, says one AL GM, ‘should be the big day.’”
    http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/thebuzz/

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 2:34 pm
  • Evidently Tejada said he doesn’t want to switch positions. That could be a problem if you trade for him.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:34 pm
  • AG – agreed about Bernie. But, really he should be a part-timer anyway.
    As for Abreu – it’s eery how close his stats are to Sheff’s. The difference is that he has (even at his peak) less power, but a slightly higher OBP – and he steals much more. Plus, I’m guessing he’s a better fielder.
    And that’s not factoring in the 5.5 years difference in age, and the fact that Abreu is apparently a good guy, unlike some surly fellows we could mention…
    Michael Kay is going nuts right now about the fact that Julio Lugo turned down $8m per from the D-Rays and has said he wants $10m+. Says he’s not worth it.

    Sam July 30, 2006, 2:35 pm
  • Interesting, Paul. Would Baltimore actually make that trade?
    Moose rings Lugo up swinging again.
    Crawford singles to left center.
    Baldelli chops to short away from Jeter. Jeter makes a great play to second to get Crwaford at second on the FC. Wow, nice.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:36 pm
  • Paul, you’re right. This is the most wonderful time of the year!

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:37 pm
  • Baldelli swipes second when Posada had trouble getting the ball out of the glove.
    It’s 1-1 with 2 outs to Lee, who swings and misses at a fastball away.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:37 pm
  • From what Bill posted and everything else I’ve read, it doesn’t appear the Sox and O’s are even discussing a trade, let alone one involving Tejada… His insistence to stay at short, though, works in the Sox’ favor if they traded Loretta and moved Gonzo to second…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 2:38 pm
  • It’s after defensive plays like the one Jete’s just made that I want to tell Saber heads that they can’t be right about Jetes being a below average fielder.

    bloodyank78 July 30, 2006, 2:38 pm
  • That was a great play by Jeter. Crawford is faaaaaaast!

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:38 pm
  • I’m with you, Paul.
    But here’s my dilemma: I love than mgmt is more long-term than short-term focused, now.
    However, this is a really good team that could go a long way into the postseason. How does anything that would involve Loretta, Gonzo or Lowell not look like a white flag at this point?

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 2:38 pm
  • 1-2 with two outs is outside. The 2-2 is swung on and missed to retire Lee. The game is heading to the bottom of five, knotted up at 2 runs apiece.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:39 pm
  • I would imagine it’s not a white flag if it’s something that dramatically improves the team, no?

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:41 pm
  • DAMON!!! UPPER DECK!!!

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:43 pm
  • Trading Loretta and x for Tejada is not a white flag at all… Trading him or Lowell or whoever for Lugo feels like a white flag to me…
    Now the Globe also has reported that the Sox offered Crisp for Buehrle, but the ChiSox turned them down — and Stark says Pena is likely to be traded, but that would appear to be contingent on getting an outfielder back, and with Abreu to New York, that dries up the pool… I doubt they’re going to trade for Soriano and put him in Fenway’s right field…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 2:43 pm
  • True, YM. And I hadn’t considered Miggy coming in.
    Jesus: Papi, Manny, Miggy.
    Holy crap, Lois.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 2:44 pm
  • Jeter flies out to straightaway center.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:44 pm
  • I’m so glad Johnny D is a Yankee now =)

    bloodyank78 July 30, 2006, 2:44 pm
  • You know what’s pissing me off the most? I have to go to Menard’s soon to get drain cleaner.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 2:45 pm
  • Giambi pops out to end the 5th. Yankees lead 3-2 on a BOMB by Damon. That’s one of the deeper shots to that part of the park this year.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:46 pm
  • No way Baltimore trades Tejada to Boston. How often do trades like that happen within a division? Also, Buehrle’s been crap, do you want him pitching in AL East??

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:46 pm
  • Getting Tejada makes so much sense, it’;s distressing that the Sox are not among the teams that apparently have shown a lot of interest… Good defensive shoirtstop, vastly improves the lineup, provides protection for Manny… It’s not pitching, but if you can get a lineup like that…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 2:47 pm
  • YM, I don’t think I want Buehrle either. Just reporting what’s been reported. I also wouldn’t want to give up Buehrle for Crisp, despite Crisp’s struggles…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 2:48 pm
  • Michael Kay reports that the Abreu deal is imminent.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:48 pm
  • Kay just confirmed the deal on YES: Abreu and Lidle for a “collection” of minor leaguers.

    Sam July 30, 2006, 2:48 pm
  • Kay: “Deal is imminent…” Way to shed the light on the proceedings.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:48 pm
  • Sorry, give up Crisp for Buehrle, that should say…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 2:48 pm
  • So YFs are these minor leaguers any good or what? I know Henry is the ’05 draft pick…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 2:49 pm
  • Also, who’d play CF if Crisp goes? I assume you don’t want to see Pena in there every day.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:49 pm
  • Lidle over Ponson is certainly an upgrate. That could well be worth a win or two down the stretch…

    Sam July 30, 2006, 2:50 pm
  • Soriano playing for the Sox, that’s interesting. I can imagine him terrorizing Yankee pitching… But I dunno something about the guy isn’t quite… right. Why did the Yanks ship him out in the first place? Can’t say I was sad to see him go.

    Brian July 30, 2006, 2:50 pm
  • I’d give up Crisp for Beuhrle. He’s struggling this year but he’s one the most consistent and best pitchers in the AL the last 5 years. Call me crazy but I think he’s the equal of Zito. The Chisox smartly rejected that offer. Crisp has to prove to the world that he’s good. He’s not doing that.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:50 pm
  • Cantu grounds out. Gomes up, takes strike one. The 0-1 is cut on and tipped strike 2. The 0-2 is a pop out to left center, fielded by Johnny for the second out.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:50 pm
  • Brian: because that’s how they could get Alex Rodriguez.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:51 pm
  • Tell you the truth I think Willy Mo Pena is going to be huge, and sooner rather than later.

    Brian July 30, 2006, 2:51 pm
  • Paul – when we drafter Henry, I read reports that projected him ultimately as a CF and likened his hitting to Sheff – high BA, low SOs etc.
    He’s only 19, but he figures to be a good player one day.

    Sam July 30, 2006, 2:51 pm
  • Paul, Henry is a toolsy guy who has a lot of upside but hasn’t been good in the minors. He was slotted as Jeter’s heir apparent but he was having tons of problems in the field and at the plate.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:51 pm
  • A strike and then a ball to Branyan; the 1-1 is a comebacker to Moose for 1-3 to end the inning. Good short work from Mike there.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:52 pm
  • Mooooooooooooose

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:52 pm
  • Ahh yeah, oops I guess that still kinda makes sense >smile<

    Brian July 30, 2006, 2:52 pm
  • Henry is in low A ball, even if he’s good, it’s not likely he’d ever crack the lineup. Matt Smith is a LHP reliever with a 0.00 ERA in the majors, but he’s 27 so maybe not so much a “prospect” anymore. Supposedly there’s a PTBNL also from a list. Provided Yanks don’t have to pick up Abreu’s option for ’08, it’s a decent deal.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:53 pm
  • Crisp has been disappointing, but trading him would leave a giant hole in center field… Pena did an adequate job there when Crisp was injured though… Still, it seems we don’t need more outfielders, but neither do we need to trade the starting outfielders we have… I can see shipping off Pena, but that seems to fly in the face of the reasoning they had for bringing him in — particularly now that Trot’s struggling… The more all the possibilities are worked out, the more I think the Sox might be better off standing pat…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 2:54 pm
  • Hat trick for ARod. Nice.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:55 pm
  • ARod, for the third time today, is at 0-2 in the count after two pitches. The next pitch is inside for a ball. The 1-2 is inside for ball 2. Two and two: swung on and missed for strike three and his third K on the day. ARod drops an F-Bomb that was easily picked up by the plate microphone.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:56 pm
  • Posada grounds out 3-1 for the second out.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:56 pm
  • YM – all suggestions are that picking up the option for 08 will be Abreu’s condition for agreeing to the trade.

    Sam July 30, 2006, 2:57 pm
  • Sam,
    Someone somewhere was saying that’s no longer the case. Guess we’ll have to wait and see.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 2:57 pm
  • Guiel strokes it foul up right, then pops it up to left. Crawford loses it in the sun. and it bounces into the stands for a ground rule double.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 2:58 pm
  • If Kay says it, then, by God, it must be true. ….
    And, yes, I’d deal Covelli for Buehrle in a minute. He’s struggling now, but the man has been sooooooo solid the last several years. Everyone hits bumps now and then. He will get it together before the year is out.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 2:58 pm
  • I guess I hould just hope that Abreu joins the long list of over-30 Yankee sluggers who are being paidd too much money to put up 0-fers and hit popups…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 2:58 pm
  • If you can get Beuhrle for Crisp you do it in a heartbeat. The guy never gets hurts, he logs in 200 plus above average innings every year in a hitter’s park. Crisp might come around, he might not. BAsed on this year’s performance, he’s not a very good center fielder and he’s still an unproven. You fill the CF spot with Wily Mo/a trade/and minor league talent. You’ve been able to win 61 games so far with a below-average center fielder. It wouldn’t be a big hit if you lost Crisp now.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:58 pm
  • Guiel wants to stay…

    Brian July 30, 2006, 2:59 pm
  • “guess I hould just hope that Abreu joins the long list of over-30 Yankee sluggers who are being paidd too much money to put up 0-fers and hit popups”
    like Sheff and Damon?

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 2:59 pm
  • Or Giambi and Bernie… and ARod

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:00 pm
  • Paul is secretly jealous ;-)
    Andy obviously does not want to stay…

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:00 pm
  • It’s 1-1 to AP with two outs and Guiel on second. AP misses badly for 1-2. AP takes a breaking pitch low for 2-2. Another pitch low to make the count full. AP strikes out swinging to end the sixth.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:00 pm
  • Yeah, you sold me, Nick… I’m sure the hand injury has a lot to do with it but Crisp really hasn’t been good enough this year — and any defense problems from Pena he will more than make up for with his bat…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:01 pm
  • Yeah , A-Rod’s 2005 sucked.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:01 pm
  • I agree Crisp for Beurhle would be a go for me with Willy Mo in center, but it won’t happen

    Brian July 30, 2006, 3:01 pm
  • Hey, A-Rod wasn’t over 30 last year ;-)

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:02 pm
  • Mussina is at 88 pitches and is ahead on Perez 0-2. The next pitch is outside for 1-2. Soft grounder to short to get Perez.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:04 pm
  • like Sheff and Damon?
    Or Giambi and Bernie… and ARod
    The Yankee model calls for championships, nothing less. Subtract Bernie and the rest have accounted for 0 titles.
    Although they have put up great numbers, given the Yankee philsophy, they’ve been failures.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:05 pm
  • Josh Paul swings and misses at a Mussina fastball. The 0-1 is on the outside corner for strike 2. Paul takes strike three on a fastball tailing back in on the outside corner.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:05 pm
  • One can always dream: Sox trade for Buehrle (Schilling/Beckett/Buehrle/Wakefield/WellsLester rotation) and Tejada (Youk/Loretta/Ortiz/Ramirez/Tejada/Lowell 1-6). Yeah, that’d be cool.

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:06 pm
  • Jayson Stark on ESPN News just now said the 08 option is part of the deal. He also said the Yanks are working on a deal with the Pirates for Roberto Hernandez.

    Sam July 30, 2006, 3:07 pm
  • Lay off the crack, Paul ;-)

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:07 pm
  • Just read this in the Herald:
    Right-hander Manny Delcarmen is battling inflammation in the capsule near the bottom joint of his right thumb, an injury that began bothering him a week ago. It’s causing pain when he throws his breaking ball and is causing all his pitches to cut in toward right-handed batters. His velocity remains unchanged, he said.
    He’s goign to see a hand specialist today. Freakin hell.

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:07 pm
  • Soft grounder to third ends the top of the seventh.
    Bill: I don’t think it’s fair to call the players failures, but yes, the team has failed in the goal.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:08 pm
  • Moose at 97. Done?

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:09 pm
  • Bill, that’s crazy and you know it. These guys have performed fine. The Yanks’ failure to win a championship shows how difficult that goal is, and demonstrates flaws in the team’s design regarding bench/starting and relief pitching.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:10 pm
  • I think so Farns should pitch the 8th and 9th. Give Proctor and Mo extra rest.

    Sam July 30, 2006, 3:10 pm
  • Herald reports the Sox are also dangling Trot Nixon, but otherwise says it has “no juicy rumors,” which really just means Silverman doesn’t have as many sources as Edes and Cafardo…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:10 pm
  • That’s funny, I thought the Yankees were entitled to a championship… That’s what their fans always seemed to act like anyway…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:11 pm
  • Does Mussina have a pitch limit on him?

    Brian July 30, 2006, 3:11 pm
  • One away as Melky grounds out to second.
    Sam: Is that Pirates rumor legit? Hernandez is in his 40s.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:12 pm
  • Brian: no, he doesn’t.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:13 pm
  • AG, doesn’t that make him a perfect fit for the Yanks?

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:14 pm
  • I worry that the Pirates trade could lead to Melky on his way out of town.
    *a tear falls down my cheek*

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:14 pm
  • DAMON!!! Johnny upper deck again!!!

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:14 pm
  • JD goes yard again!!!

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:14 pm
  • I swear to god I love Johnny D, 2 HR’s today!!

    bloodyank78 July 30, 2006, 3:15 pm
  • Damn, forget anything bad i ever said about ol JD

    Brian July 30, 2006, 3:15 pm
  • Curt Schilling, Wakefield, Wells, Manny, Loretta, Lowell-These youngsters herald the youth movement in Boston.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:15 pm
  • Paul: exactly. :/ And yes, we feel entitled. Greedy bastard, I am.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:15 pm
  • Brian,
    Moose doesn’t have a pitch limit but typically falls apart right around 100, a la Pedro.
    So far today: Jeter/Damon 4, DRays 2. Sad, really….

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:16 pm
  • Jeter fouls one off for strike one, then takes a ball. The one-one is just inside. The next pitch is a breaking pitch low for three and one. Jeter bounces the next pitch to end the inning.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:17 pm
  • AG – I can’t vouch for the rumour, but Stark said it very clearly. Sounded like it would happen, too.

    Sam July 30, 2006, 3:17 pm
  • Nick, don’t forget Tek (and Nixon?)

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:17 pm
  • Johnny has this guy’s number for sure… isn’t that like the most home runs Johnny has has in a game since the 04 ALCS?

    Brian July 30, 2006, 3:17 pm
  • Tek and Nixon are spring chickens compared to the pitching staff.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:18 pm
  • Just say no to 40+ year old NL relievers!!!

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:19 pm
  • Yeah, sucks to have old timers like Lester, Delcarmen, Hansen and Papelbon in our pitching staff…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:20 pm
  • I just had to throw a little gas on the fire. …
    We knew you’d love JD this year, and maybe next. It’s years 3 and 4, and they’re all yours.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:21 pm
  • More details, via Ken Rosenthal at foxsports.com: “(it’s Henry and Smith and)
    catcher Jesus Sanchez, 18, and right-hander Carlos Monasterios, 20, both of whom are with the Yankees’ rookie ball affiliate in the Class A Gulf Coast League.
    In addition, the Yankees are expected to pick up the remainder of the roughly $19 million owed to Abreu, . . .
    Abreu, 32, has given assurances that he will waive his no-trade clause for the Yankees, presumably in exchange for the exercising of his $16 million option for 2008.”

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:21 pm
  • Farnsinator in for NY. Facing Crawford, he gets a foul for strike 1. Cut on and missed on the fastball for 0-2. Farns throws heat but outside for ball one. The 1-2 is another fastball cut on and missed for the first out.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:21 pm
  • and yet none of them approach the value Wang gives the Yanks. Not even Papelboner!
    Fighting words…

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:22 pm
  • I forgot about Cano and the Melkster. Not bad for a depleted famr system.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:23 pm
  • I’d argue with you if I really thought you believed that, Nick…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:23 pm
  • It’s 1-1 to Baldelli. Farns brings a fastball to make it 1-2. Great slider to get Baldelli swinging. Two away.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:23 pm
  • Now would be a good time to mention that my Cubs fan friends here were aghast that the Yanks spent so much $$ on crazy-man Fransworth.
    I was giddy about it. And then we got Julian.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:24 pm
  • I think both have been equally valuable. Wang has been great these past 2 months.
    Starters have an advantage in terms of the value they add to their team because they log more innings.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:24 pm
  • Farnsworth. I need to proofread my posts.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:25 pm
  • Lee steps in to face Farns, who is high for ball one, then outside for ball two. The 2-0 is a fastball on the outside corner for 2-1. The next pitch is a fastball that Lee cuts on and misses for 2-2. The 2-2: fastball outside for a full count.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:25 pm
  • Here’s an added bonus of ol’Abreu;
    Line Against the Sox in 33AB:
    .455/.561/.818/1.379
    Niiice.

    bloodyank78 July 30, 2006, 3:25 pm
  • holy crap, I got nervous that they included Jesus Montero in the deal. That would be bad.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:26 pm
  • You know what used to bug me about Johnny? He’d have these looong assed slumps where he was just a black hole… then he’d hit like monster

    Brian July 30, 2006, 3:26 pm
  • Payoff from Farns: low for a walk to Lee. Cantu up.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:26 pm
  • I’d normally agree, but we’ve all seen what not having a good closer does to a team… One bad starter is just going to cost you a chance at winning every fifth day… A bad closer likely will cost you a game multiple times a week…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:27 pm
  • How do you walk a guy hitting .206? Just…how???

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:27 pm
  • CMW has been your best starter not only because has he been great, but, correct me if I’m wrong, you win more often when he starts than anyone else in the rotation.
    He’s become a bonafide ML pitcher the last three months.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:27 pm
  • YM, it’s called being Farnsworth with 2 outs.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:27 pm
  • it’s close between CMW and Moose. he’s been very valuable recently because of his ability to go deep in games.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:28 pm
  • Slider for a ball, then a foul. The 1-1 rides inside and is fouled back for 1-2. The next pitch is a slider away that Cantu cuts on and missed. Inning over.
    Farnsworth was awesome that inning.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:29 pm
  • Nick, I know *cries*
    Ends up striking out the side though, so it’s all good.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:29 pm
  • Farns shows dominant stuff that inning.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:29 pm
  • BY, I think there might be some sample size issues involved with that, combined with the fact that the Sox were simply wretched during interleague play for severtal years — the years when Abreu was hitting his best…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:29 pm
  • But, BY, all those 33ABs are against Myers.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:30 pm
  • ARod up to try for a golden sombrero.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:32 pm
  • I think someone mustve stolen Giambi’s woobie

    Brian July 30, 2006, 3:33 pm
  • …which he thankfully avoided.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:33 pm
  • I haven’t seen this mentioned yet, but for what it’s worth, most of the problems Abreu has had in Philly are generally chalked up to laziness. He’s like Manny Ramirez with a lot less power, better speed, better tools in the OF, but less willingness to apply them. Can’t remember where I saw it, but most Phils fans almost had heart attacks when his gold glove was announced a couple years back. He’s also garnered criticism for looking for the walk instead of a hit. 94 hits, 91 walks.
    I don’t think I’ve seen this comparison made.
    Player A: 32, 295 BA, 7 HR, 47 RBI, 20 2B, 52 R, 0 SB, 1.25 BB/K, 308 ABs, 7.5 M
    Player B: 32, 277 BA, 8 HR, 65 RBI, 25 2B, 61 R, 20 SB, 1.05 BB/K, 339 ABs, 13 M
    Power numbers very close. Give Abreu (B) the edge on RBIs, SBs obviously, but runs can be attributed to differences in plate appearances. Player A? Christopher Trotman Nixon. And only one of the two has been accused of being lazy in the field.
    I love Trot, but the Phillies acquiring a more expensive, lesser fielder for the stretch run doesn’t scare me too much. Not trying to say he won’t be useful, but the thump of Carlos Lee or Alfonso Soriano would have a much bigger impact.

    Quo July 30, 2006, 3:34 pm
  • Lugo’s hiotting quite well this year — .312 with 12 HR… Only 27 RBI, but I imagine that’s a product of consistently coming to the plate with no one on base… 18 steals in 22 attempts also is nice… His OBP is good, and he’s slugging over .500.
    He’s having a creer year, which is cool, but you have to be leery of those…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:35 pm
  • Lugo had a great year last season. He’s good.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:35 pm
  • Change Phillies in that last paragraph to Yankees, my bad.

    Quo July 30, 2006, 3:37 pm
  • Paul; 33AB is way too small. I just was being smartass. This time next year, I guarantee Abreu’s numbers against the Sox will come down to earth.

    bloodyank78 July 30, 2006, 3:38 pm
  • So he would be a pretty significant offensive upgrade over Gonzo, but he tends to hover around that 25-error range.. As opposed to Gonzo’s projected 7-error range…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:38 pm
  • It’s Lugo’s D that scares me.
    Quick poll: Who thinks Theo pulls off a deal that’s somewhat close to the magnitude of the Abreau deal?

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:39 pm
  • Abreu’s numbers are better than Lee’s and Soriano’s for the last 5 years. Who know why he’s struggled with power this year in Philly? Perhaps, it’s the unsupportive fan base and the rumors, maybe it’s a true decline in that skill area. I’d say one thing: Based on the 5 year sample, I’d prefer Abreu to Trot, Soriano or Lee.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:39 pm
  • “Quick poll: Who thinks Theo pulls off a deal that’s somewhat close to the magnitude of the Abreau deal?”
    he’s going to do something, but I think more along the lines of tinkering. I think Linebrink ends up in the bullpen.
    He also could trade Nomar again. That’d be something.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:41 pm
  • Rivera gets a pop out from Gomes for one away in the 9th.
    Rivera strikes out Branyan for out number two.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:41 pm
  • I do. No one expected the Nomar and surrounding trades when they went down… He’s got something up his sleeve that all the lneys and Starks in the world probably can’t ferret out… (file this under hopeful thinking)
    Great comparison, Quo. Makes me feel better ;-)

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:41 pm
  • ARod does not get the golden sombrero but makes an out anyway and completes an O fer, does he get a mock cheer from the fans on that?

    Brian July 30, 2006, 3:41 pm
  • Rivera is up 0-2 on Perez. The 0-2 is a single to right. Perez can’t be gotten out it seems.
    Deal for Abreu is official.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:43 pm
  • Russell Branyan puts the “ink” in “stink.”

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:43 pm
  • Brian,
    Strangely, no. I guess it’s only the Ks that they object to.
    Yankees STILL cannot get Perez out. Trade ARod for him straight up!

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:43 pm
  • Tough to use five-year samples when a player is at the age Abreu is. He might be slumping short-term. He might be declining. Almost assuredly the numbers going forward won’t match the numbers looking back.

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:43 pm
  • The deal was just confirmed by the Yankees as final Kay says. He’ll be in the line-up Tuesday.

    bloodyank78 July 30, 2006, 3:44 pm
  • I don’t know if Theo is dealing big, but he’d better be damn careful with the chemistry of this team

    Brian July 30, 2006, 3:44 pm
  • Up comes Buffalo Grove’s own Josh Paul.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:44 pm
  • Yankees win the game on a ground ball 6-3. NY 4, TB 2.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:44 pm
  • Bill: They pinch hit for Josh.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 3:45 pm
  • Mussina gets lucky 13th…still could win that elusive 20…

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:45 pm
  • Say Sheff and Matsui and Cano come back. The Yanks could field this line-up:
    Damon-CF
    Jeter-SS
    Giambi-1b
    A-Rod-3b
    Sheff-DH
    Abreu-RF
    Matsui-LF
    Posada-C
    Cano-2b
    Wow

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:46 pm
  • Brian, I wouldn’t worry about that. I think Theo has a much better handle on chemistry than any of us could imagine.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:46 pm
  • I’m sorry, I don’t buy the chemistry argument… Everybody fretted about that in 04, and the team came together and relled off a fantastic second half. Everybody worried about chemistry when Millar and Damon left, and now the team is the second-best in baseball. Now we’re worried about chemistry again? How many times must we needlessly worry about chemistry before we realize it’s an overrated factor in determining a team’s ability to win?
    Winning teams have great chemistry because they’re winning, imo. As long as you win, it’s easy to get along…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:46 pm
  • Good win for the Yanks, sort of… not the pasting I thought they’d put on the Dfish but I guess Jeter and JD is all you needed today

    Brian July 30, 2006, 3:46 pm
  • Well, yeah, he stinks.
    I’m on MLBdotcom. Sorry about my delay.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:47 pm
  • Paul is right. You need only look at the Yanks teams of the late 70′s to realize that teammates don’t need to like each other to play well together.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:47 pm
  • Paul, you are so wrong. They don’t come back and beat the Yanks in 04 without good chemistry and clubhouse leadership.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:48 pm
  • Yeah, I know what you are saying and obviously Theo has a better grip on the chemestry of the team than anyone, but this Sox squad seems a bit more fragile than that one…

    Brian July 30, 2006, 3:49 pm
  • Yankee Line-up as of late Sept.?
    CF Damon
    SS Jeter
    1B Giambi
    3B Arod
    RF Abreu
    DH Sheff
    LF Matsui
    C Posada
    2B Cano Hard hitting lineup on paper.

    bloodyank78 July 30, 2006, 3:49 pm
  • Nick, in the late 70s, nobody had good chemistry. 25 players, 25 cabs.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:51 pm
  • and to think this was the time of a great oil crisis when people were hitchhiking to work.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:52 pm
  • Still think Sheff and Matsui will be back? That’s very optimistic.
    And with Abreau aboard, Sheff will be VERY pissed. Remember, this is the guy who admitted tanked it to get the manager fired when he played in Milwaukee.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:53 pm
  • Bill, I’m saying that winning fosters good chemistry (generally. Those Yankee clubs are exceptions). With rare exceptions, a winning team will talk about all this great chemistry they’re having, while losing teams will seem to have none whatsoever. I think people have confused the causal relationship. Chemistry doesn’t make or break teams nearly as much as the team’s record determines what kind of chemistry you have…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 3:53 pm
  • Great line, Nick. Great line.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:54 pm
  • Sounds like a chicken-egg arguement to me, Paul.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:55 pm
  • But it probably is safe to say that few losing teams have good chemistry.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:56 pm
  • Peter Abraham reports ’08 option on Abreu will not be picked up. If that’s the case, it’s a very good deal for the Yankees.. I’m guessing YES will have some sort of update.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 3:57 pm
  • the problem is it’s hard to quantify good chemistry. Who knows? It’s almost impossible to have evidence-based argument about this. What’s more, often we don’t know the specifics of the team dynamic. I read Buster Olney’s Last Night of Yankees Dynasty and was stunned to learn that Posada and Tino didn’t get along for a couple of seasons during that run. Who knew?

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:58 pm
  • this is a very very good deal for the Yanks.

    Nick-YF July 30, 2006, 3:59 pm
  • Foulke scratched from his start in P’tucket 2day. Back.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 3:59 pm
  • Yeah, poor interpersonal relationships are easy to ignore when you’re winning. It’s when your struggling that the “anonymous teammate” quotes start showing up in the papers…

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 4:03 pm
  • Can’t imagine someone can’t get along with Tino, unless the made a joke about his hair.
    After Nomar was dealt, a lot of comments were made (anonymously, of course) about how he fouled up team chemistry.
    But all of you make good points: Winning has to help, losing obviously kills it and, yeah, how do you quantify it?
    That is something best left to a GM and manager who have a good feel for the clubhouse. In this case, I trust Theo and Tito to make good decisions.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 4:04 pm
  • Wow…Tigers slapped Santana aroud pretty well today. 9 hits, 4 BB, 3 runs in 5.1 innings. So much for that Twinkies’ hot streak…

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 4:04 pm
  • Incidentally, now fewer than 24 hours before the deadline.

    Paul SF July 30, 2006, 4:04 pm
  • And so much for those remaining hangers on who insist that the Tigers will go away.
    A lot of great posts today. Thanks for the fun.

    I'm Bill McNeal July 30, 2006, 4:06 pm
  • Great reading the thread today. Off to get some chores done. Hopefully catch you all later on the Sox thread.

    attackgerbil July 30, 2006, 4:07 pm
  • One last bit of good news for today: O’s beat ChiSox, so Yanks are back in the lead for WC. Wheeee!
    Fun talking to y’all.

    yankeemonkey July 30, 2006, 4:47 pm

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