Alex in 08: Should I Stay or Should I Go?

Jayson Stark brings us a story today on the future of A-Rod, as regards his ability to opt-out of his contract following the 2007 season. Stark foresees these possibilities:

-A-Rod has typical year, but is again maligned, departs for greener pastures
-A-Rod has typical year, is heroic, uses it as leverage to get monster extension
-A-Rod has typical year, decides to play out the contract (not likely with Boras)

Not mentioned but also possible:

-A-Rod is mediocre or injured, is forced to play out contract

No matter what, he won’t be depending on his royalties.

19 comments… add one
  • It would be a sad day for this Yankee fan if Alex were to leave. I would imagine it would be equally as sad for Sox fans as well or at least the Sox fans that frequent this site. What would they talk about? A Yankee world without “Slappy McBluelips?” (That is what you guys call him right?) Anyway let’s hope the fans finally give him a shot this season. It doesn’t take a lot to go from the dog house to the penthouse in NY.

    Triskaidekaphobia February 6, 2007, 4:54 pm
  • Trisk, normally, I would think you’re right, but A-Rod puts up amazing numbers and still gets the boo birds like crazy. It’s gotten to the point that he ripped apart for ever striking out with runners in scoring position. I mean, it got real bad at the end of last season, funny for us Sox fans, but real bad none of the less.
    I’m not talking about the Yankee fans here, but the masses that fill the stands seem to have made up their mind.

    LocklandSF February 6, 2007, 5:31 pm
  • As I’ve said before, the anti-ARod faction in New York almost saps the fun out of making fun of him. I feel bad for him. Of course, I did say, “Almost.”
    ”I’m an employee. If Joe says take out the garbage, I take out the garbage,” he said. ”There’s no attitude. That’s just the bottom line. I’ve very old school when it comes to that. And I’ve never been a person that ever questions my authority. … The first thing I’ve got to look at in the mirror is me.”
    How old school is it to talk about how old school you are?

    Paul SF February 6, 2007, 5:38 pm
  • He can win them back. It’s not going to be easy, but being that he’s one of the greatest baseball talents of our time, I am pretty sure he is up to the challenge. If Barry Bonds can find people to root for him, I am pretty sure Alex can do the same.
    If making fun of A-Rod makes you happy Paul, go to town. Everyone needs something. I will focus on the baseball side of A-Rod and take consolation in the fact that he’s never taken the last month off of a season once his team dropped out of the race with a mysterious knee ailment. Find every funny quote you’d like, he is a great baseball player who always gives the Yankees 110%.

    Triskaidekaphobia February 6, 2007, 6:03 pm
  • Focusing strictly on baseball, I’ll take Manny over A-Rod with the bases juiced, down by three, two outs every time.

    Paul SF February 6, 2007, 6:21 pm
  • Paul – you might, but would he take you?

    Lar February 6, 2007, 6:25 pm
  • Rodriguez will be the toast of the town when the fans choose. He is powerless in this city. It doesn’t matter what he does, frankly. Yankees fans can hem and haw all they want about just wanting a player who works hard, who does his best to win, but that’s what Rodriguez does, warts and all. He’s a narcissist, and we SFs love to make fun of that, but he’s a world class player, and he busts it. He has had high-profile failures, but he’s no slacker. If A-Rod wants to be a “true Yankee”, he’s going to have to win. That’s not my criterion. That’s the established criterion of Yankees fans. Have you ever seen a “True Yankee” post on Yankee fan sites after a great effort that failed? The answer is no: you see them after game-winning hits.

    SF February 6, 2007, 6:27 pm
  • as a side note…last nite on MLB radio they rebroadcasted the 4/26/05 yankee vs angel game. in the game a-rod had three homers and 9 rbi’s. john sterling yelled “this is a-rods defining moment as a yankee” after the 3rd homerun. i’m not sure anything regaurding baseball is defined in april, not a season nor a career.
    i get that manny took off the end of last year, but manny was also one of the guys still batteling when the world counted the sox out after falling behind three games to none in the ACLS. that also happens to be same exact time a-rod dissapeared.

    sf rod February 6, 2007, 6:49 pm
  • …hard to tell what the market will be for arod if he opts out, but it would be a hell of a gamble on his part considering his very lucrative contract…not many teams would part with that kind of dough, but maybe…
    …i think you got it wrong sf, arod doesn’t have to “win”, he merely needs to show some guts when the pressure is on…it’s fun to stomp on the greedy self-entitled ny fans, but take a look at the mattingly example of a guy who was and still is loved by yf’s despite never having been a part of a winning team…arod has vastly more physical skills than mattingly, but the perception, right or wrong, is that he wilts under pressure…if he can be successful in a few more key situations including [god willing] the playoffs, he will be given a break by the knowledgable yf’s anyway…
    …paul, i agree with you about manny in the clutch, but as long as something is on the line…manny’s rep is to “quit” when the sox are out of it, and there’s no denying that…

    dc February 6, 2007, 6:52 pm
  • if he can be successful in a few more key situations including [god willing] the playoffs, he will be given a break by the knowledgable yf’s anyway
    Exactly my point, dc. He doesn’t deserve his reputation shoehorned into this definition of success. To gauge A-Rod’s “Yankeeness” on a few select moments is unfair, and I imagine the “knowledgable yfs” think exactly the opposite of what you are saying. Those who accept him in as a true Yankee only after a few localized successes are fooling themselves into thinking they understand this game.

    SF February 6, 2007, 7:39 pm
  • “He doesn’t deserve his reputation shoehorned into this definition of success.”…in that sense we’re not going to agree sf…i wish it was as simple as jeter being nicer to him as some of you sf’s have suggested, but it’s more complicated than that…he first needs to prove it to himself that he’s not just another stat-boy, and that he can produce when the pressure is at its greatest…you said that he’d need to win, but that’s not so, hence the mattingly comparison……call it unfair, but that’s not such an unreasonable expectation for him to do better with the game on the line…i can’t imagine you cutting manny or ortiz any slack if they failed repeatedly to get the key base hit or made an error when it really mattered…having said that, i may be among the minority of yf’s who actually feel sorry for a guy making $25m [or more] per year, and i hope he stays a yankee…he’s proven himself to me [i’ve proven i’m not a typical yf, nor do i consider myself particularly knowledgable…i lead with my heart], and i think better days are ahead for him in a yankee uniform…the law of averages is in his favor, and i’m rooting, not booing for the guy…

    dc February 6, 2007, 8:46 pm
  • A-Rod became a ‘true Yankee’ as soon as he proved he can play, and play well, in New York, which he has. It is a sad Yankees fan who thinks otherwise, and unfortunately about 75% of all Yankee fans feel that way.
    He’s not my favorite player in the world, due to a complete lack of personality, but as a Yankees fan I appreciate what he can, and does, bring to the table. Sure I may get out my frustration on him when he blows yet another one of Mussina’s games, but the frustration is almost completely media-fueled. If it weren’t for his 22 errors last season there would be almost no reason to complain about his performance, at least above anyone else’s.
    I seriously hope people stop talking about A-Rod like he’s the only member of this team. Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t we have an all-star outfield, the best offensive infield in the game, an amazing borderline HOF catcher, the guy who came 2nd in Cy Young voting in his first full year in the majors, and Robinson Cano, quickly becoming one of the best second basemen in the game?
    Could we please, please, have a quota on A-Rod-related articles. At least until we talk about the other, even more exciting aspects of the team.

    Andrew February 6, 2007, 8:47 pm
  • andrew, i wish i had said that…amen…good post

    dc February 6, 2007, 8:51 pm
  • “If A-Rod wants to be a “true Yankee”, he’s going to have to win. That’s not my criterion. That’s the established criterion of Yankees fans.”
    I couldn’t disagree more. Is Don Mattingly a “True Yankee?” I would venture to say it would be unanimous if you polled Yankee fans and he never won a thing. The “True Yankee” label was started by Buster Olney and his compadres in the media. I have never once heard a yankee fan say I don’t like him because he’s not a “True Yankee.” He’s a Yankee and if he continues on past this season, chances are good he goes to the hall of fame as such. So you can tell me how Yankee fans feel or you can simply ask one or a couple hundred for that matter.
    “Focusing strictly on baseball, I’ll take Manny over A-Rod with the bases juiced, down by three, two outs every time.”
    That depends is it September and you are up 3 games in the east or is it September and you are 8 games out? Or Maybe it’s a July day game and you have “Tummy Ache” but later show up with Enrique Wilson. I guess it truly depends on Manny and if he feels the situation needs him.
    “john sterling yelled “this is a-rods defining moment as a yankee” after the 3rd homerun. i’m not sure anything regaurding baseball is defined in april, not a season nor a career.”
    Well I guess if Sterling said it then all Yankee fans must believe it.
    “i get that manny took off the end of last year, but manny was also one of the guys still batteling when the world counted the sox out after falling behind three games to none in the ACLS.”
    Makes sense applaud him for doing his job and earning his salary.
    Good job Andrew BTW.

    Triskaidekaphobia February 6, 2007, 9:09 pm
  • Trisk:
    I was digging at my co-author here, somewhat. Witness:
    http://yanksfansoxfan.typepad.com/ysfs/2006/06/alex_rodriguez_.html
    I hate the idea that a player is finally committed to a team just because they knock a player in, win a game, or make a diving stab. And I hate the moniker “true” whether it precedes “Yankee” or “Sox” or any team name for that matter (though YF didn’t deploy it in the above-listed thread, it seems heavily implied). The bottom line is that A-Rod takes way too much grief for his play on the field, which is generally brilliant. Off the field, not so much, thank God. He’s done plenty for our material here. But he’s one of the greatest of all-time, he’s won an MVP in NYC, and there’s not much to complain about, as far as I am concerned. So I am with you and with Andrew on this one, as strange as that may sound.
    It’s also why Manny is cut slack for his mercurial nature. He works his ass off in the cage, he has had a tremendous track record of performance since arriving in Boston, and the Boston fans (mostly) accepted him even during some lean years. Winning wasn’t a prerequisite.

    SF February 6, 2007, 9:29 pm
  • sf, if you and i ever agree on anything, it’ll be the end of this site as we know it…reputations, while at times can be somewhat unfair when thought of in the extreme, are generally earned…arod, while still a brilliant player, remarkably talented, is a lightning rod for a number of reasons, some of them on the field by failing to produce [offensively and defensively] in some key situations…he’s still a true yankee [whatever the hell that is] in my mind, and like i said, i hope he remains a yankee…he might be the best player of our generation…manny is likewise a brilliant player, remarkably talented, but has earned the reputation of being a slacker [at times], regardless of how “hard” he works in the batting cage [he knows his hitting butters his bread]…i hope he remains a red sox for the sake of the rivalry…he may be the best hitter i’ve ever seen…

    dc February 6, 2007, 10:05 pm
  • A-Rod will never be a true Yankee because A-Rod deep in his heart of hearts is … a True Devil Ray.
    Mark my words, the Devil Rays will be a contender for the AL East title in 2007.
    Forget the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry thing.

    Devil Ray Fan February 6, 2007, 11:19 pm
  • Funny, too, how Manny “gives up on the Sox when they’re out of it.” Let’s see, where did that come from? Teammate quotes? Nope. Manager’s comments? Nope. Front office quotes? Nope.
    Unattributed, poorly written rants by Dan Shaughnessy, Gordon Edes and Tony Massarotti? Yep.
    Manny couldn’t have actually been injured. No, anything but that.

    Paul SF February 6, 2007, 11:40 pm
  • …come on paul…nobody’s making up this stuff…if in observing the guy over the past few years your own eyes have deceived you, go back and review all of the manny trade discussions and articles…a common theme was that perhaps the sox had finally grown weary of manny being manny…

    dc February 6, 2007, 11:49 pm

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