Sox Notes

Some good news for the Sox, if you give self-diagnosing Dominicans any medical credibility whatsoever (I don’t, I still think we’re well more than three weeks from seeing Papi back).  Also, Kevin Youkilis made it into the game yesterday, albeit with protective eyewear, so it looks like we will have our testy first baseman back following his freak accident.  A picture of Youk in his special glasses after the jump.  It ain’t pretty.


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  • Halfway through and 49 wins (with their share/more than their share of injuries) is great. Also having played the most games of anybody is nice for the team, having so many off-days in the latter half. (Have the Sox been rained out this year?)

    Devine June 26, 2008, 10:42 am
  • Yeah, D, it’s a nice pace if they can keep it up. I think that the staff is going to suffer a little moving forward as the league adjusts to Masterson. Matsuzaka worries me for obvious reasons, if his shoulder isn’t 100% that’s a big issue, and Wake has been solid but is pitching with a bit of luck it would seem. Still, if they win 98 (and for the record I don’t think they will) the Rays need to win 53 out of 85 (.623), the Yankees 57 out of 84 (.678) the rest of the way to get to 99. It is obviously premature to be thinking this way, though, but it does give us a sense of the solidity of the first half for the Sox. They’ve done very nicely.

    SF June 26, 2008, 10:51 am
  • I was thinking the other day, about HoF and all that stuff. Can a player play his way out of HoF? (Let’s assume cheating, gambling, etc is not involved)
    For example, let’s assume Schilling is a HoFer by your standard (it’s already a debate, but let’s play along for now). Can he “suck” say, for a few more years and thus play himself out of it? Or he can have 5 seasons of 20 ERA and still make it?
    This probably applies to a pitcher more. Pedro is a HoFer, even though his wins are not there – but how much does he have to suck to lose being in the HoF?
    On the flip side, you have a “sure” HoFer in ARod. Let’s say he regresses to 5 HR a year, batting .200, playing because of his huge contract.. is he still a HoFer?

    Lar June 26, 2008, 12:36 pm
  • but how much does he have to suck to lose being in the HoF?
    Pedro could put up five more years of an ERA close to a billion and still get in the HoF.
    It’s an interesting question, but I think that it only applies to borderline guys – Jim Rice may be an example – he is someone whose average dropped below .300 because of a terrible set of at-bats in his last season, and maybe if he had stopped after 1988 he’d be in the Hall, however superficial it seems that voters might keep him out over his trying stick around a little longer, basically.
    The issue is sample size – if someone is a HoFer, their sample size is large and they’d need to have an extensive period of suckage to play themselves out, but then they’d have a hard time finding employment at a certain point because they’d have been sucking, etc. And that sucking may be statistically insignificant in the grand scheme of things since HoFers effectively need to have built up a nearly ironclad sample of work.
    As you ask about Schilling, it’s really just the borderline guys who might be exposed to this oddity.

    SF June 26, 2008, 12:43 pm
  • Nah, I see the Sox as a 94-96 win team (I agree 98 and up is less likely), and I’m glad they packed the “majority” of these wins in the first half (last year’s team was 50-31 at this point). I hope Ortiz coming back (if he comes back…and his tendon doesn’t explode or something) will offset Masterson’s regression (which I agree with).
    Hopefully Beckett will get the luck he deserves in the second half (his peripherals are just about all excellent, really), Lester continues to shine (and if he doesn’t start walking people again, I don’t see why not), and the injuries aren’t as constant and severe from here on out.

    Devine June 26, 2008, 1:00 pm
  • I think Frank Thomas played his way out of the HoF. …
    I say that, and then I ponder SF’s previous post.
    Big Frank was right on the edge of it, as in, 1-2 more years of the same and he’s in. I mean, here in Chi-Town, his name had become “Future Hall of Famer Frank Thomas.” (Except to the forever childlike Jay Mariotti, AKA Douchefncker to Deadspinners.)
    And then he practically fell of the face of the earth. (His average really suffered, he had a lot of injuries, but when healthy, his power numbers stayed up there.)
    So let’s say he did fall off the face of the earth. Literally. He got hit by a Metra train after the 2000 season, when he was second in the MVP voting. The numbers he put up are there to stay.
    And looking at it that way, I say, no, you can’t play your way out of it. I think once you hit that plateau, you’re there, no matter what happens.
    (This is not an endorsement one way or the other for Frank Thomas in the HoF.)

    I'm Bill McNeal June 26, 2008, 1:07 pm
  • Back to the original point, the emergence of Tampa will make it very tough for the Sox to win more than 96 games. Plus, the Sox still have a lot of games left against NYY and TB, another West Coast swing, and the Orange County Angels of Southern California, or whatever they’re called this year.
    I’m leaning toward Sean McAdam’s recent assertion that the Sox need a No. 2 starter. I’d also like to see a more reliable left-handed reliever and more signs that Hansen has finally arrived.

    I'm Bill McNeal June 26, 2008, 1:18 pm
  • I’m leaning toward Sean McAdam’s recent assertion that the Sox need a No. 2 starter. I’d also like to see a more reliable left-handed reliever and more signs that Hansen has finally arrived.
    Beckett is back to being the Ace (his ERA in his last 6 starts is 2.48, with 41 K’s in 40 innings). Before his last start Daisuke had been fantastic, so as long as he doesn’t turn into Bronson Arroyo from here on out we’ll be fine. Also, if Lester continues the way he’s going (which, like someone above said, will be easy if he continues to not walk people) he could be a good #2.

    Atheose June 26, 2008, 1:31 pm
  • Also, since April 25 Javier Lopez has an ERA of 1.35. He’s been extremely reliable lately, especially considering the struggles that Oki is beginning to go through.

    Atheose June 26, 2008, 1:34 pm
  • I think they’ll come in with the 95 win total needed (barring injuries). Need Ortiz back though and fully productive. How can people still ignore how good Lester has gotten this year?

    DW-sf June 26, 2008, 1:41 pm
  • Ath and DW:
    RE: Lester.
    It speaks to his personna that we continue to overlook how good he’s been.
    Let’s hope the opposition does, as well.

    I'm Bill McNeal June 26, 2008, 2:10 pm
  • Ath, saying Matsuzaka had been fantastic is a bit of a stretch. Way too many walks and way too few innings for the number of pitches he’s thrown.
    And I’m even giving him a pass for that 7-run, 3 out debacle over the weekend.
    However, his ability to get out of jams? THAT has been fantastic.
    I’ve been trying to devise a statistic factoring in his pitch total, how deep he goes into games and his ERA.

    I'm Bill McNeal June 26, 2008, 2:15 pm
  • Garza one-hits the Marlins, the one hit being a Hanley homer.

    I'm Bill McNeal June 26, 2008, 2:55 pm
  • Frank Thomas is easily a Hall of Famer. Look at that career. Good Lord. He was a better hitter than Manny, much as I hate to say that.

    Paul SF June 26, 2008, 5:40 pm

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