Sox Fans Delusional Over 2004

As if we needed a Harvard study to tell us.

Hat tip to Deadspin for the link.

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  • Need to be careful about this, YF. The results of the study suggest that with 26 “World” Championships, that would actually make Yankee fans the most delusional of all. Which isn’t too shocking.
    BTW, congratulations on the 14-13 win over the Rangers the other night. First win without HGH or steroids of the year!

    Quo May 18, 2006, 10:59 pm
  • I hope no lab animals were hurt in the Yankees portion of the study.
    Meanwhile, can I just go off-thread a second and say how sick and wrong interleague play is?

    Hudson May 19, 2006, 9:49 am
  • Um, YF, did you read the article?
    It didn’t say either side remembered the event more acurately. It said Yanks fans were more un-sure of their memories, Sox-fans more sure.

    Sean May 19, 2006, 9:56 am
  • Read the article?

    YF May 19, 2006, 10:10 am
  • I hate interleague more than anything else in baseball (yes, even Barry Bonds). It’s novelty has worn off and it needs to be put out to pasture. It diminishes the importance of the World Series.

    Nate May 19, 2006, 10:58 am
  • I’m in the yea camp for interleague: i think seeing great rivalries that wouldn’t otherwise happen is fantastic, and it’s great at the gate. I would admit, however, that the league overdoes it a bit. one or two series per year would be more than enough.

    YF May 19, 2006, 11:42 am
  • Mets Yankees Subway Series: What Rivalry?
    Public Service Announcement:
    All right, here we go. Huge rivalry, right? Interleague play, right?. Mets/Yankees. Subway series. Optimus Prime vs. Megatron, right? I am siding with Chuck D. and Flav on this one: Don’t believe the hype. I walk around the City every day, and there’s no buzz. There’s no electricity. There’s no chitchat by the water cooler. No one cares. Willie Randolph doesn’t care. “To be honest with you and tell you the truth, we’d rather not play these games really, to tell you the truth. But the fact that we have to play ’em, might as well have fun with it.” Exciting. This rivalry is a fabrication of the New York mind. Met fans hate the Yankees. Yankee fans hate Met fans. That’s about the extent of it. New York Newsday’s Mark Herrmann says “This rivalry is not what it used to be.” Not what it used to be? What was it? Interleague play only started in 1997. They played once in a World Series. What memorable moments of this “rivalry” are there. I scoured my big brain for hours. This is all I could up with: 1) Rocket throwing a bat at Sam Champion’s boyfriend. 2) 1976. Rick Cerone makes a 10 Jeans ad. To counter, the Mets call up Lee Mazzilli, teen idol. 3) While George Costanza is working for the Yankees, Mets recruit him for the position of Director of Scouting. That’s it folks. If anyone can think of anything else, anything at all, please let me know; because I surely can’t. Petey throwing Zimmer to the ground. Doc and Bird grabbing each other by the throats. That’s the stuff rivalries are made of. Not dungarees and Sienfeld. Sure this is an intriguing match-up. Pedro/Bullwinkle Saturday is a very intriguing match-up. Baseball is full of intriguing match-ups. However, to call this a rivalry, is a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham. I’ll be watching this week-end. I’ll be watching for the same reason I always watch. To see the Yankees lose. Go Mets!
    Smiley Says:
    My buddy Smiley was at Game 5 of the 2000 World Subway Series. Afterthe game, he stormed security to get Clemens’ autograph. While getting it, Smiley says, “You are not wearing a Jays hat in the Hall.” Smiley is a Canadian. He hates Clemens just like us. For the same reasons. I saw the autograph.
    From St. Catherines to Vancouver, Smiley says, Flutie made a nation of Bills, Chargers, & Patriots fans. Literally. A nation of fans.
    The Public at Large:
    1. Tigers win 7 in a row. Think this Jimmy Leyland character knows how to manage?
    2. Last we saw Danny Almonte he was lying about his age in the Little League World Series. 19 now. We think. Leading his Monroe HS to the NYC championships. He was just picked for the High School All-America game.
    3. Is there anyone outside of Detroit who is rooting for the Pistons?
    4. Clipper’s Elgin Baylor just won Executive of the Year. Did you ever think you’d hear those words together? Clipper’s, Baylor, Executive of the Year.
    5. This Larry Brown fiasco gets crazier and crazier. There’s a pre-draft workout Monday. Larry’s not invited. He’s going. He’s still coach and no one has told him otherwise. I would love to be at that practice.
    6. Clippers win. Does anybody besides Mike Wilpon care?
    7. Sox/Phillies tonight. I hate interleague play.
    Public Figures:
    1. Making me feel young again. Kenny Rogers became the first seven-game winner in baseball last night. Rogers never stood alone atop the major league leaderboard until the age of 39. But he has now done so in two of the last three seasons. He’s also on my fantasy team.
    2. The Reds overcame a 6-0 first-inning deficit to defeat the Pirates, 9-8. It was the first time in the 120-year history of the Pirates franchise that they lost a home game in which they led by six or more runs after one inning. Prior to last night’s loss, Pittsburgh was 32-0 in such games. It shows shows how bad they really are this year.
    3. The Clippers shot 62 percent from the field in their 118-106 victory over the Suns last night. It was the highest field-goal percentage in an NBA postseason game in 10 years, since the Spurs shot 62.2 percent in a first-round win against Phoenix.
    4. Corey Maggette was 7-for-8 from the field and 9-for-9 from the foul line in the Clips’ win, missing only a long three-pointer midway through the fourth quarter. Only two other players made every two-point field-goal attempt and every foul shot in an NBA playoff game, going 5-for-5 or better on both: Larry McNeill of the Kansas City-Omaha Kings in 1975 and Chris Mullin of the Warriors in 1998. Did anybody else catch Bill Walton gushing, Vito Spatafore style, about Maggette’s chiseled features. It was gross.
    In Case You Weren’t Listening:
    The Public was on Toronto’s own WGFY last night, discussing the trials and tribulations of Mr. Doug Flutie. Doug was a giant in Toronto. A giant I tell you. Just want to thank host, Tommy Aaron, for inviting me on. Great show. Great callers.
    Peace out homeys!
    Six two and even.
    Josh Q. Public is a featured writer for

    josh q. public May 19, 2006, 12:34 pm
  • When did this turn into Yanksfan vs Metsfan/NBAfan/Flutiefan/deadspinfan?

    Nate May 19, 2006, 1:10 pm
  • YF, he’s right, you didn’t read the article. This doesn’t say Sox fans are delusional.
    “Those who were happy about the verdict could not discriminate true from false details of the event ANY BETTER than those unhappy about it,” (emphasis mine)
    The study found that people happy about it REMEMBER MORE of the event than those unhappy about it. Or you could say that this shows that people can BLOCK memories they don’t like. Obviously, Red Sox fans thought about the 2004 ALCS a lot more often than all but the most obsessive, depressed Yankees fan. I couldn’t tell you some salient details about the 2003 ALCS that I remember easily about the 2004 ALCS. I watched the replays, read about it, talked about it, laughed about it – so I’m going to remember it better than the year before, when I crawled into a hole and tried not to think about baseball. I’m sure it’s somewhat the other way around for YFs.

    rk May 19, 2006, 2:30 pm
  • What’s amazing is that YF even remembers 2004 enough to understand what this article is referencing. Most Bombers supporters treat that year like it didn’t exist, so at least we should give him some credit for that, at the very least. His reading comp skills, that’s a different issue entirely.

    SF May 19, 2006, 2:48 pm
  • Not sure that this fits in here, but what can you do…
    “Boston Red Sox players bought drinks Monday night for about a dozen U.S. soldiers who were staying at the same hotel, the Renaissance Harborplace. Michelle Zaleski, the bartender in Windows, the hotel’s restaurant and lounge, described a spontaneous scene in which the Sox broke into applause for camo-wearing soldiers, just returned from overseas duty, then picked up their bar tab. Almost too much to bear: The Sox beat the Orioles on a regular basis – and they’re nice guys. “Unlike,” Zaleski says, “that other team from up north.”,0,7664392.column?page=2
    Class defined.

    Mayday Malone May 19, 2006, 2:57 pm
  • “Unlike,” Zaleski says, “that other team from up north.”
    Yeah, the Blue Jays are scum.

    Anonymous May 19, 2006, 3:31 pm
  • That’s right. You heard it hear first. The Damn Yankees are a bunch of commie, fascist-loving scum who hate America and the honorable men of her Armed Forces. Thank You Michelle Zalewski for clearing that up. Now we know why the Orioles lay down and roll over for the Sox. It’s cause the Sox are made up of Great Americans unlike the foreigners on the Damn Yankees. I’m convinced, I am now a Sox fan for life. I hope the Sox win a WS for me, unfortunately 2004 doesn’t count for me, I wasn’t a Sox fan back then. God I hope I don’t have to wait 84 more years. But hell,with this team of All-American heroes who spent their last dime buying drinks for weary US Soldiers, I am sure God will help us win against the evil-doing Yankee empire. Down with the infidels.

    Bozo May 19, 2006, 4:30 pm
  • The main reason I don’t like Interleague play is it creates a lopsided schedule.
    For example, with 1st place in the A.L. East being so close last year, which teams the Yanks and Sox drew for Interleague play may have affected the outcome (and therefore who played whom in the first round of the playoffs). One game difference, and the Sox win the division.
    And I say that not remembering what the Interleague matchups were last year. The Sox may have had the easier draw for all I know.

    Hudson May 19, 2006, 4:31 pm
  • Bozo, I think you’re a little too hard on the Yankees. Clearly if they’re communists, they can’t be fascists, as well.
    I didn’t like interleague play then. I don’t like it now. I’m sure the Red Sox’ generally pathetic performance in those series has nothing whatsoever to do with my feelings…

    PaulSF May 19, 2006, 5:16 pm

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