Sox-Yanks Four-Game Com-pa-roo

1490For most of the weekend, I was removed from being able to watch any of the games for a significant contiguous length of time.  Instead, I would glance at my phone when possible for an update, hit the blog for a bit to see if anything exciting or controversial happened, glance at a TV on the way by a bar, etcetera.  The general feeling I came away with when I did get to watch a game for any duration was that the offense seemed to be dragging, or lacking intensity.

Making a subjective statement like that is pointless and usually just means I’m ticked that NY couldn’t convert a run off of, oh I don’t know, say, Kyle Fricking Snyder with the bases loaded and no outs.  So, instead of making vague statements about intensity, serving nothing except to make me think of Bob Harris hocking whisky in Japan, I wanted to look at the numbers.  You will find the four game stats summary in the extended.

New York/Boston Four Game Comparison

New York Hitting
AB R H RBI BB K LOB AVG
Abreu 11 2 2 0 2 2 2 .182
Cabrera 15 1 6 2 3 3 5 .400
Cairo 3 0 0 1 1 1 2 .000
Cannizaro 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Cano 12 1 3 3 1 1 8 .250
Damon 11 2 3 0 0 3 8 .273
Fasano 4 0 0 0 0 1 5 .000
Giambi 8 2 3 1 3 2 5 .375
Green 5 0 0 0 0 2 3 .000
Guiel 7 0 1 0 0 0 4 .143
Jeter 14 2 2 0 0 2 7 .143
Matsui 8 0 2 1 1 2 9 .250
Nieves 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Phillips 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .000
Posada 9 2 5 4 1 1 2 .556
Rodriguez 8 1 1 2 4 2 6 .125
Thompson 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Williams 9 2 4 2 1 0 2 .444
Wilson 3 0 1 0 0 1 0 .333
Total 128 16 33 16 17 24 68 .258
Boston Hitting
AB R H RBI BB K LOB AVG
Cora 8 1 0 1 0 1 1 .000
Crisp 10 1 4 2 0 3 5 .400
Gonzalez 8 1 2 2 0 2 6 .250
Hinske 7 1 2 0 1 2 5 .286
Huckaby 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Kapler 8 1 1 0 1 1 8 .125
Loretta 13 4 5 1 2 2 7 .385
Lowell 14 2 2 0 1 3 11 .143
Mirabelli 6 1 1 1 1 2 3 .167
Murphy 9 1 3 2 1 2 4 .333
Nixon 11 2 3 3 2 3 8 .273
Ortiz 9 2 3 1 6 3 4 .333
Pedroia 8 2 3 1 2 1 1 .375
Pena 5 0 1 0 0 1 3 .200
Pena 9 0 2 0 1 4 9 .222
Varitek 8 2 3 1 1 3 3 .375
Youkilis 8 0 3 4 1 0 0 .375
Total 142 21 38 19 20 33 78 .268
New York Pitching
G IP H R ER BB K HR
Beam 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 0
Bruney 2 2 0 0 0 3 5 0
Dotel 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0
Farnsworth 2 2 2 1 1 0 3 0
Johnson 1 5.2 8 5 5 3 6 0
Mussina 1 6 7 2 2 1 7 1
Myers 2 2 1 1 1 1 0 0
Proctor 2 3 4 1 1 0 3 0
Veras 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0
Villone 2 2.1 2 5 5 5 2 0
Wang 1 5 9 3 3 1 3 0
Wright 1 6 4 2 2 3 2 2
Total na 35 38 21 21 20 33 3
Boston Pitching
G IP H R ER BB K HR
Beckett 1 6 4 2 2 5 4 1
Breslow 1 0.1 1 2 2 1 0 0
Corey 2 2 2 1 1 1 2 0
Delcarmen 1 1.2 2 0 0 0 1 0
Foulke 2 2.2 2 0 0 1 1 0
Hansen 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 0
Jarvis 1 5.2 4 4 3 3 3 0
Lopez 2 1.2 1 0 0 0 1 0
K F Snyder 1 5 7 2 2 1 7 0
Tavarez 1 5 6 4 4 4 2 0
Timlin 3 3 3 0 0 0 2 0
Total na 36 33 16 15 17 24 1
12 comments… add one
  • A couple observations:
    It looks like Abreu is returning to normal after playing over his head for two whole months.
    Because someone has to say it: Jeter really turned on the clutchiness for this series!
    The Red Sox got good performances from most of the usual suspects, as well as some of the promising ones — Crisp, Pedroia, Murphy all with good lines there. Likewise Delcarmen and Snyder.
    And ditto on Timlin. More proof why 1. He should never ever ever be booed and 2. Why he deserves one more season in Boston.

    Paul SF September 18, 2006, 9:51 pm
  • “2. Why he deserves one more season in Boston.”
    hard to say. He’s looked old this year, even despite his fine series in the Bronx. Still, I think you’re right. He’s been a warrior for the Sox. Knowing Theo, that probably means he won’t be back next year;)

    Nick-YF September 18, 2006, 9:54 pm
  • wrong again paul, get off taking the cheap shots at mvp jeter and abreu, will you? you keep harping on the “promise” of the sox, especially the younger players…they stink!,and you know it…..i do admire the eternal optimism, I have to admit, but 1918 was long ago, and 2090 is a long way off….this was a meaningless playoff tuneup [a la spring training] for the yanks, so stop treating it like more than it was.

    dc September 18, 2006, 10:27 pm
  • Meaningless playoff tuneup? Who’s taking cheap shots again?

    Quo September 18, 2006, 10:30 pm
  • quo, just the facts buddy….the yanks have all but mathematically clinched…these games did not have the same significance to the race as the ones a few weeks ago…to pretend otherwise is silly….the sox won them fair and square and i tip my cap to them, but to tell it like it is, is no cheap shot….if i did take a cheap shot it was saying that the sox younger players “stink” in return for paul’s low blows to jeter and abreu…..ok?

    dc September 18, 2006, 10:56 pm
  • It was all a cheap shot. Ask the Yankee players, Torre, Cashman, Steinbrenner, if they felt the games were meaningless. Would they have been meaningless if the Yankees had gone 2-2? 3-1? Swept all 4? Or are they just meaningless because the Yankees lost 3 of 4?

    Quo September 18, 2006, 11:10 pm
  • …come on, quo…i didn’t say the yanks didn’t try…i said the games were meaningless…they didn’t have the same significance as the earlier games with the sox….has nothing to do with the yanks losing them….all of the yanks games with the sox before these were meaningful because they didn’t have a 10 game lead at that point….i also gave the sox credit for winning them…geez….again, not a cheap shot, just stating the facts….you’d be saying the same thing if it was the other way around…

    dc September 18, 2006, 11:43 pm
  • …i should clarify…while the yanks tried, they didn’t play their “A” team in all 4 games, choosing to rest players…again, doesn’t mean they wanted to lose them, or didn’t care, but under the circumstances [10 game] lead, they approached the games differently….

    dc September 18, 2006, 11:47 pm
  • And the Red Sox did bring their A team? I forgot that Manny was in LF for all 36 innings this weekend. Jarvis, Snyder, and Tavarez are always the Sox starters of choice.
    I didn’t accuse you of saying the Yanks didn’t try. I said that ask anybody in the Yankee organization, and at least publicly, they would say the games mattered because they were at home against the Red Sox. There would be deserved gloating here if the Yanks had clinched against us at Yankee Stadium. That didn’t happen, so some people made some ill-thought out remarks to justify the losses. I never said that YOU did.
    I’m certainly not representative of SFs. And you’re probably not representative of YFs. Personally, I agree with anyone who says the Yankees would’ve approached the games differently if there had been a 2 game difference instead of 10 or 11. The Red Sox would’ve too. So the “A” team argument is a pointless one to make. David Murphy leading off one of the games yesterday? NEVER would have happened if the Sox weren’t already out of it. I’ve cited and could cite numerous other examples. Let’s put it this way. The Sox “B” team beat the Yanks “B” team. Even. Square. And as you said, you give them credit. Wonderful. But realize it wasn’t exactly all Green-Cannizaro-Cairo-Phillips in the Yankee IF all weekend, just as it was not Lowell-Gonzalez-Loretta-Youkilis for the Red Sox IF all weekend. Both teams threw non-starters out there for some games. Torre didn’t manage it like the ALCS? Fine. Point to an instance where Francona did manage it like the ALCS. It’s rationalizing. It’s an excuse. As I’ve said before, Joe Torre would call it an excuse, nay, wouldn’t try to put an excuse out there, and tip his cap, just as Francona would do if the situation had reversed.

    Quo September 19, 2006, 12:00 am
  • Sorry, Paul and Nick, but why does Timlin “deserve” another year in Boston, without knowing what the offseason will be like? You can’t give guys contracts on sympathy, particularly not 41-year-old guys who are definitely regressing. If Theo thinks there are no better options, or Timlin continues to shine for the next two weeks, then perhaps he’s an option. But he should only be brought back if he can be relied upon for next year, not out of deference for his gutty performances the last three.

    SF September 19, 2006, 1:24 am
  • quo, in some wierd way i think we agree about the yanks sox approach to this past weekend’s games…and you and i are definitely not like sf’s and yf’s who won’t be open minded and see the other side once in awhile…and that was the original source of my angst earlier in the thread [sf’s (not you) incessant bashing of jeter and abreu] i hope we’re cool now buddy…
    on the timlin question, just my gut talking, but i wouldn’t be surprised to see him stay another year…even though he’s showed signs of aging this year, it seems that the crop of experienced ML relievers is always thin…he may be able to help the younger relievers in the sox pen, even if it’s more spiritual than anything else…

    dc September 19, 2006, 12:46 pm
  • sf and paul sf, are you out there?…….
    since you seem to relish in taking yankee failures out of context [comments in your posts about jeter’s and abreu’s performance in the most recent meaningless games against the sox], i thought you’d enjoy the following aol sports updates from tonight’s games:
    “The Red Sox cut a 6-0 deficit in half but got no help from David Ortiz , who went 0-for-5 with three strikeouts and remained one homer short of the Red Sox record of 50, set by Jimmie Foxx in 1938.”
    and,
    – “Bobby Abreu hit a tiebreaking homer in seventh inning, Johnny Damon made a great catch that saved three runs and the New York Yankees beat the Toronto Blue Jays 6-3 Tuesday night to lower to one the magic number for their ninth straight AL East title.
    Derek Jeter forced Jason Frasor (2-2) out of the game by a lining a single off right shin in the seventh, and Abreu followed with a two-run homer off Justin Speier for a 5-3 lead. It was Abreu’s fourth home run since the Yankees acquired him from Philadelphia in late July, and gave him six hits in his last 12 at-bats.”

    dc September 19, 2006, 11:11 pm

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