Sox-M’s Gamer IV: Patriots Day Edition

Lenny DiNardo gets the start in place of the injured David Wells. The Mariners counter with Gil Meche, who Ken Griffey Jr. once said was the future of the franchise. Comments here.

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  • I hate the NESN commercial with all the “fans” talking about the team, because they are all talking in monotone and the girls seem like they’re reading off a cue card. Just thought I’d throw that out there.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 10:59 am
  • It’s not nearly as bad as the same woman stumping for the American Red Cross every single commercial break, all year long..
    I mean, I know it’s a great cause, but holy cow, space them out a ‘bit.
    Oh, the new Acura one is really bad too.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 11:01 am
  • Yeah, there are countless worse commercials, Brad, but everytime I turn NESN on, that one commercial comes on, and it just kind of pisses me off. I mean, come on, they couldn’t find some people who are actually enthusiastic about the Sox?

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:03 am
  • Ugh. Not a great way to start the game.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:08 am
  • That play may have gotten just about anyone else out, but not Ichiro, unfortunately. Oh well. Hopefully we can actually score against Gil Meche today and make up for it.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:11 am
  • Ouch. Sexson with another double. Come on, Lenny.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:13 am
  • I love these day games that allow me to post throughout. My PC at my house in another room altogether, so I can’t watch and post.
    On another note, Youk has absolutely lived up to everything we thought so far, and he’s doing a good job in the leadoff spot thus far. He’s really playing a GG first base so far too.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 11:21 am
  • Papi!!!

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:23 am
  • I love being on school vaca for Patriots Day. I was last year too, but it was the first time in awhile. Good Friday is a state holiday in RI, meaning all public schools are closed, meaning I get an extra day of vaca. That’s always nice.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:24 am
  • Morn’n! I looked at today’s lineup and thought “whew, thats more like it. Although Alex Cora should be hitting third today.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 11:26 am
  • Ugh, Manny. Another K. I’d be worried about him, but it’s Manny. He’ll snap out of it soon enough. I hope.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:26 am
  • No, Cora should be hitting cleanup, matty. Then they could just walk Papi and not have to worry about homers.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:27 am
  • Least favorite repeat commercials:
    * Pepsi ad with the two celebrities dancing like dorks;
    * Dunkin Donuts “I like to do the things we do” or whatever the ridiculous line is.
    * Sovereign Bank’s blaring music.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 11:28 am
  • I’m still getting pver the Applebee’s Gilligan’s Island commercial from the NCAA Tourney, but the ones I really hate are the Burger King commercials. Can you say creepy?

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:30 am
  • I think the BK ads are kinda funny, but I agree about the Applebees ones. In their defense though, its hard to make crappy over priced food sound exciting.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 11:32 am
  • OK, thats three doubles now. Stop please.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 11:33 am
  • In addition to Patriot’s Day, this is fast becoming Arroyo Nostalgia day.
    That trade looks more and more stupid by the minute.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 11:34 am
  • I used to like Applebees, but the whole I-no-longer-eat-meat thing put a stop to that. But the Buger King adds are most definately creepy, matty. Would you want to wake up and see that thing outside your window?

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:34 am
  • Uh, Cora? Just throw to first with two outs, pal.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 11:35 am
  • Um, Hudson, as much as I’m missing bronson right now, I like that trade. I mean, Wily Mo isn’t doing much right now, and his defense is suspect at best, but with Trot back, it’s a great platoon. Everything will shake out okay, I’m sure.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:36 am
  • Oh, but I agree with that second comment Hudson.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:36 am
  • Yay, Trot! It’s so nice to have him back. nothing too spectacular, but it’s just nice to see him playing.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:39 am
  • I dunno about that, Laura. We went from seven starting pitchers to four, and we could really use Arroyo now.
    Plus our middle relief (Riske/Seanez/Tavarez) is pretty dubious.. And both Clement and Wells are shaky.
    My preferred solution now would be to let Papelbon start, and let Foulke show us what he’s got.
    But maybe Theo really thinks he’s going to sign Clemens. Until then, we’re relying far too heavily on Schilling/Beckett.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 11:39 am
  • Yeah, but what would our outfield situation be without Pena? Obviously it’s short term, but still, Mohr and Stern can’t start every day. And I’d love to see pap starting, but if Foulke couldn’t close, then what? Either way, we’re in a tight situation.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:42 am
  • I just think the value of Arroyo as an extra starter/middle reliever far outweighs the platoon value of Pena (who turned a potential out and a double into two triples over the weekend).
    The difference between Pena and Mohr/Stern in part-time roles is much less than the difference between Arroyo and DiNardo/varous AAA pitchers.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 11:45 am
  • Wow. That was interesting.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:46 am
  • Nixon scores, Cora extends single into a double.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 11:46 am
  • I like the Arroyo trade, and I love (in a hetersexual manly sort of way) Bronson. But this trade wasn’t made to make the Red Sox better right now. It was made because we had a surplus of pitching and very little young outfield power in our system. Wily Mo may be many things, but he has some serious power, and (this is the most important part) he’s very young. 24, I believe
    Laura – of course I wouldn’t want to wake up anywhere near one of those BK things, but thats why its funny. I guess I find the creepiness funny.
    Hey, would you look at Alex Cora? Sweet… 2-2. Don’t screw it up, Lenny!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 11:47 am
  • Tied up. A third chance for DiNardo to settle down.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 11:49 am
  • Yeah, I know Hudson, but still. I think people place too much value in Arroyo. yes, he’s a good number 5 starter, but when you can get a guy with the potential of Pena for him, you jump on it. I’d like to see Arroyo in our bullpen right now, but we didn’t know Wells would be on the DL after one start. We didn’t know Riske would be injured or that Seanez would implode. We didn’t know Papelbon would end up closing. All that pitching depth is suddenly gone, but when the trade was made, there was no way of knowing that Arroyo was potentially an invaluable member of the team this year.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:49 am
  • Well, lookee here, folks. We got ourselves a ball game.
    Has anyoen here ever heard Hawk Harrleson call a White Sox game? He’s terrible, and actually talks like that.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 11:50 am
  • In the long run, the Arroyo-Pena trade will work out favorably for the Sox. Does anyone really think that Arroyo has room for improvement? In my mind, and I think Sox management would agree with me, Arroyo pitched as well last season as anyone could expect him to ever pitch. Hence, we sell when the stock is high.
    In return we got a young slugger with power matched by no one in the game. He is obviously a project – not exactly the contact hitter that Manny usually is. Frankly, I’m excited about the prospect of watching Wily Mo in the future. Also, remember that we have the potential for two phenomenal young starters – Lester and Papelbon (when Foulke returns or Hansen comes up.

    Sean April 17, 2006, 11:51 am
  • The worst BK commericial is the one with the couple riding on a bike and all of a sudden the girl is replaced by the King. That is truly creepy. Maybe to a guy it wouldn’t be, but I wouldn’t want that to be me. Ugh. Another hit.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:52 am
  • Is Harrelson the one that scream “put it on the board” everytime someone hits a home run, matty? I hate that expression.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:53 am
  • Of course we didn’t know any of that. But Theo *should* have known that solid pitching is a whole lot harder to find than backup outfieldings.
    Preparing for the season, it’s a heck of a lot better to have too much pitching than too many outfield options. Mohr and Stern were plenty in that department, and once Coco gets back, the loss of Arroyo will be that much more glaring. (I’m among those who doesn’t expect much out of Wells this year, if he even stays with the team.)
    Arroyo was not an ace, but he gave us a ton of innings and a decent number of wins every year. Given that the Sox have had something of a revolving door of middle relievers, seems to me Arroyo (who was inexpensive to boot) was the guy to hold onto.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 11:53 am
  • Double play. Nice. I like double plays.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:54 am
  • The best BK commercial is the new one with the construction worker – the king pretends to push the guy off the high beam. Hilarious!

    Sean April 17, 2006, 11:54 am
  • Yes, but Hudson, as I, matty, and Sean have all said, this trade was for the future. The kid has so much potential, and sometimes you have to just go with it when the opportunity arises. Who knows how Arroyo will pitch this year? Maybe he’ll be great. Maybe he won’t. And of course pitching depth is important. But do you remember how much pitching we had at one point this spring?

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:56 am
  • I am finally back at a location with a computer and a high-speed connection. Go Sox!!

    SF April 17, 2006, 11:57 am
  • Laura – I think thats him. Hes also the one who calls the White Sox the “gud guys” and their oponents the “baaad guys.” When a bad guy strikes out he says, “he goan.” I’m trying to spell these phonetically so you can really get a sense of how annoying he is. And terrible. Hes terrible too.
    Does anyone around here read Baseball Prospectus? They actually like Arroyo’s chances for improvement. Of course their projections assumed that he would be pitching in Boston and not the Bandbox in Cincy. For the record they also like Wily Mo. A lot.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 11:58 am
  • That is sick, Sean. I will never understand the wierd sense of humor that most guys have. The price I pay for being one of the few girls who post here, I suppose.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 11:58 am
  • Hey SF! Welcome back. Did you hear? Big Papi homered! I hear tell it was awesome.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:00 pm
  • Yeah, matty, I generally only see games on NESN, Fox, and ESPN, but I’ve heard game clips from White Sox games before, and that’s all I can remember from it.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:00 pm
  • Anyone find it annoying that MLB Gameday audio is about two pitches behind MLB Gamecast? I would much rather listen to the game, but I have this hangup about lagging that much further behind reality.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:01 pm
  • That sucks, SF. Things like that are why I can never leave New England. How the heck could I live without NESN?? =)

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:03 pm
  • You can’t really second-guess the Wily Mo trade (well, of course you can). In order to get WMP, the Sox really only had one guy to give, and that was BA. Let’s see how Lenny compares to Arroyo before jumping off a bridge. And looking at Arroyo’s first two starts in a new league is no sample to use as ammo. Let’s see where Arroyo is his second pass through the league, and let’s also see what happens with the Sox’ 5th spot in the rotation over the next month or two. I preach patience.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:04 pm
  • Another hit. Yuck.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:05 pm
  • Laura, if yr ever bored you should check out this website. Its by White Sox fans who hate “the hawk.”
    http://www.heavethehawk.com
    Theres audio clips on there. They’re worth hearing if only so you can see how lucky we are as Sox fans to have competant announcers.
    SF- my gamecast gets perpetually stuck. I get like three or four pitches at a time. On Papi’s homer it was stuck on a 3-2 count for a long time, and then Manny was on up. I had to go back to see what Papi had done.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:06 pm
  • Another double play. I saw DiNardo pitch inPawtucket last year. The sinker was really working, and he was perfect for awhile. It was through six or something. That was a fun game to watch.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:07 pm
  • Double play! Maybe he saw a dinosaur.

    rk April 17, 2006, 12:07 pm
  • And yet another wall ball. At least it was just a single though.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:08 pm
  • I’ll check it out sometime, matty. I’m bored a lot.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:09 pm
  • Dinardo must think he has to give up a hit each inning.
    Conversation that didn’t take place:
    Green Monster: Hey, Lenny, send some my way today, huh?
    Dinardo: Sure thing, boss!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:10 pm
  • I predict this game’s comment number will be one of the higher ones on this site, because those of us not lucky enough to be in NE are lazy and not doing work, and those that are, well, I guess are just posting here.
    Why are the Bostonians not drinking at the Marathon, a la Bill Simmons?

    rk April 17, 2006, 12:11 pm
  • Ok, Sox, let’s get Lenny some runs. Somebody PLEASE remind Manny he’s a Hall of Famer.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:11 pm
  • I’m not actually in Boston, rk. I’m in RI. And I’m only home today due to a fortunately placed school vaca. Otherwise I’d be at school right now. Probably in history, or something.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:13 pm
  • What does everyone think of the Clemens situation? It looks to me like Steinbrenner is going to offer ~22M by June with the way their pitching is shaping up. Especially if RJ is actually hurt (only pitched 5 the other day).

    Sean April 17, 2006, 12:13 pm
  • Manny!! Wall ball!

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:13 pm
  • Yay, a hit, Manerooni! You finally said hello to the Wall. Come on, Trotter, you get cookies if you knock Manny in . . .

    rk April 17, 2006, 12:15 pm
  • Sean, I really think tat if Clemens returns to baseball it will be to Houston. He had so many special priveleges there, and I don’t think that would happen in Boston or New York.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:15 pm
  • A hit!

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:15 pm
  • Blech Trot.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:15 pm
  • that’s a start for Manny. Am I asking too much for some extra base hits?

    Sean April 17, 2006, 12:15 pm
  • I meant ‘that’ not ‘tat’, btw.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:15 pm
  • Tek tek tek tek . . .

    rk April 17, 2006, 12:16 pm
  • I think Roger comes back to Boston. I think Theo and Henry will give him whatever he wants money-wise, and I think he likes the idea of returning to Boston. If not Boston, then I bet he stays in Houston or retires. I’d be very surprised if he went back to NY, and he is NOT going to pitch for the Rangers.
    Did Manny hit it well, or was it just a scrapah?

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:16 pm
  • Come on, Tek. You can do it!

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:16 pm
  • Laura, I don’t know about that. I’m in Houston right now, and no one here thinks it’ll actually happen except Richard Justice who writes for the Chronicle. I think him spending spring training on their site was only so he could be around his son – and throw at his head, of course.

    Sean April 17, 2006, 12:17 pm
  • It was hit pretty hard, matty, but low. It was only a single, which generally means it was hit hard. It made quite the ‘bang’ off the scoreboard.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:17 pm
  • I have this feeling the Sox are on a pace to break a record for most GiDPs in a season.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:18 pm
  • Ooh, Tek.

    rk April 17, 2006, 12:18 pm
  • I really don’t know, Sean. I guess we’ll see how it all plays out. He won’t go to the Rangers, and I just don’t see him coming back to Boston. To me, Houston seems like the best bet for Clemens, except for the fact that they may not be in contention for a playoff spot come May. But they weren’t last year either, come to think of it.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:19 pm
  • Oy. Rudy Seanez warming up.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:20 pm
  • Through four and we’re getting out hit again. TGFBP!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:20 pm
  • Well, maybe Seanez will surprise us all. Maybe.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:20 pm
  • Seanez?? Let’s just throw the game away now . . .

    rk April 17, 2006, 12:21 pm
  • Well, the Sox have hit into 15 double plays this year, which puts them in second place in the entire majors. Not sure about what pace this puts them on w/r/t history.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:21 pm
  • well, at least we’re not inflating our LOB stats today

    Sean April 17, 2006, 12:21 pm
  • That would be Thank God For Big Papi.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:21 pm
  • Why not warm up Wakfield?

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:22 pm
  • SF – I think Tito would rather have Alex Cora throw a few innings.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:24 pm
  • 1 2 3 for Lenny. Keep Seanez in the pen, as far away from the mound as possible . . .

    rk April 17, 2006, 12:25 pm
  • Nice job by Lenny. (I succumbed and bought the MLB.tv game – so far it blows away Gamecast!).

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:25 pm
  • OK, time to, uh, score some runs or something.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:25 pm
  • Lenny’s only thrown 80 pitches. You think Tito will let him pitch the sixth? Or is he on that strict of a pitch count? They are usually on pitch counts in the minors.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:25 pm
  • The Adam Stern experiment is getting old quick.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:29 pm
  • OK, uh, never mind.
    Its a bit depressing when the bottom third of our order goes down so meekly.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:29 pm
  • Seriously, he just laid down a bunt with Adrian Beltre already playing way in on the grass. The bunt would have had to be better than perfect for him to get on base.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:30 pm
  • Yeah, I was watching the Dodgers-Giants game last night, and it’s just so wrong to see Billy Mueller in a different uni. I like Lowell, I really do, but I miss having the Pro hitting eighth.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:31 pm
  • Uh oh. Rudy.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:31 pm
  • Hopefully Crisp comes back soon, which pushes Stern out of the order (and back to AAA where he obviously belongs).
    I guess 81 pitches was enough for Dinardo. Very competant peformance, over all. Shame we couldn’t get the lead last half inning. This will be the first decision one way or the other for our bullpen this year.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:32 pm
  • 7-2 Mariners by the end of this inning. Anyone want to wager?

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:32 pm
  • He’s throwing strikes so far…

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:34 pm
  • Wow. Rudy. Back-to-back K’s. Impressive.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:35 pm
  • what happened to rudy?

    Sean April 17, 2006, 12:35 pm
  • Two strikeouts? I’m still processing that.
    This could actually live up to the name of an inning of RELIEF.

    rk April 17, 2006, 12:36 pm
  • Four different times the Ms have swung and missed. So far…

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:36 pm
  • Up until that single, the Ms swung ten times and didn’t hit the ball fair once.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:38 pm
  • Yuck. A hit. But hey, it wasn’t a screamer, so hopefully it won’t throw Rudy off.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:39 pm
  • Ugh. Now he’s having problems throwing strikes.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:40 pm
  • Ouch.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:40 pm
  • Rudy’s back

    Sean April 17, 2006, 12:41 pm
  • DAMMIT! And I was all set to write nice things about Seanez…

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:41 pm
  • Why is this guy pitching in a tight game.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:41 pm
  • That was painful.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:41 pm
  • And with out so-called offense I’m not sure we can put three more up on the board.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:42 pm
  • yikes.
    top of the order. we need something!

    Sean April 17, 2006, 12:42 pm
  • Honestly, I think it’s clear that Seanez shouldn’t be anywhere near a tied, one-run, or 2-run game. If not a three run or four run game.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:43 pm
  • Sure, matty. Or not. But hey, maybe they’ll surprise us. It would really suck to split this seris though.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:43 pm
  • Wow, that has hit hard. Go Youk!

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:44 pm
  • Come on Papi, come on Papi…

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:46 pm
  • How long until Coco comes back?
    (please, Coco, come back SOON)

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:46 pm
  • Papi!!!!!

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:47 pm
  • PAPI!!!

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:48 pm
  • Where’s YF now!?

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:48 pm
  • Manny!!

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:48 pm
  • How the heck was that only a single?

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:48 pm
  • come on manny! let’s get a lead for rudy. he certainly deserves it!

    Sean April 17, 2006, 12:49 pm
  • again, is an extra base hit too much to ask for from manny?

    Sean April 17, 2006, 12:49 pm
  • I thought that was going to be out, Sean, and it hit so high up the wall I was sure it was a double. Hit too hard though.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:50 pm
  • Trot! That was nice, but let’s see if we can score these runners.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:51 pm
  • GRD cost the Sox a run…
    Still, Trotsky!

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:51 pm
  • Oh geez, they’re intentionally walking Tek, meaning one out, bases loaded for Lowell. Now let’s see if he can do something with it.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:52 pm
  • someone please tell me we have activity in our bullpen?

    Sean April 17, 2006, 12:52 pm
  • This is where Lowell decides if he wants Fenway to like him

    rk April 17, 2006, 12:53 pm
  • Shit. Why did he swing at the 2-0 pitch?

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:53 pm
  • F*cking pathetic.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:54 pm
  • Really Lowell – make the guy friggin throw strikes. He must have made up his mind beforehand. Great decision.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 12:55 pm
  • AARRGGH.
    Meche’s thrown 39 balls this game. Swinging at a 2-0 pitch? That’s not a power drop, Lowell, that’s just dumb. Even I’d know to just sit there while he tries to find the strike zone . . .
    Sorry, that just made me shout in my office.

    rk April 17, 2006, 12:55 pm
  • And it looks like the Psycho known as Julian Tavarez is now in the game. Great.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:56 pm
  • How many guys have the Sox LOB this series? It’s getting to the point that it’s rediculous. But on a better note – I bet they also are right up there with the leaders in double plays made.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 12:56 pm
  • wow. lowell coming up big. i know it was only the 6th, but shouldnt tito have thought of a ph (snow to first, youk to third)? he had already grounded out twice to middle infielders and hasn’t looked good for a few days

    Sean April 17, 2006, 12:57 pm
  • Hey, he may be psycho but at least his photo makes him look like complete and utter hotness.

    rk April 17, 2006, 12:57 pm
  • At least we (I mean Papi) tied it back up. Go Sox!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:57 pm
  • Ouch. This is when I want to see Gonzalez out there.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:57 pm
  • WTF. This is just terrible fundamental baseball.

    SF April 17, 2006, 12:58 pm
  • Yeah, but Snow isn’t great, Sean, and Lowell is the better defensive third baseman. And rk, I really hope you’re joking.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 12:59 pm
  • Hey! Free outs! Fun! We’ll take some more please.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 12:59 pm
  • Yuck. And I meant Snow isn’t a great hitter, btw.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:00 pm
  • How many pitches will it take Psycho to ruin this game for us? I’m going to say 12.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 1:01 pm
  • Wasn’t the infield in? Ugh.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:01 pm
  • This is like watching a little league team. It’s like the Sox don’t understand the situation of the game at all, from the manager on down.

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:01 pm
  • I was wrong. The answer was 8. This is some crappy relief pitching, huh?

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 1:01 pm
  • 8, matty.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:01 pm
  • Tavarez, blinded by anger and violent thoughts, lets someone named Willie Bloomquist steal a base right in front of him, with the result being that he um, well, scores.
    HBP this inning?

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:01 pm
  • what about a wily mo ph? more likely to k (and keep the inning alive) or deep fly out (sac fly)

    Sean April 17, 2006, 1:02 pm
  • They had the infield in, and he still scored on a ground out? WTF? Can someone explain that to me?
    Next inning starts with the two automatic outs Cora and Stern. And its only the seventh inning so you can’t pinch hit for them either.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 1:04 pm
  • Better option, Sean, but I’d say let Lowell hit. It din’t turn out well, but Tito probably wanted to save Pena for later in case they bring in a lefty to face Trot.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:04 pm
  • Laura, of course I’m joking. Freddy Krueger is not the epitome of hotness.
    At least he ended the inning without killing anyone. Except the whole, um, hope of winning thing.

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:05 pm
  • Jeez, my two least favorite ads right in a row.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:05 pm
  • Maybe Papi can pull a Pujols and hit three today. Otherwise, we’re dommed.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:05 pm
  • Meanwhile, Meb keeps the US hopes alive halfway through the Boston Marathon. The leaders are going at like a 4:40/mile pace. Sick.

    Spidey April 17, 2006, 1:06 pm
  • Wonder if they’ll pinch-hit Pena for Stern here. Probably not, as his D could lose the game if we tie it up.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:07 pm
  • Yeah, and what would you do with Trot, Hudson? You don’t want to take him out of the game yet, and you don’t want Trot or Pena playing center, so best leave Stern in.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:08 pm
  • Ugh. Cora strikes out.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:09 pm
  • Mohr is hitting for Stern. Not a bad decision. But he just flew out.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:09 pm
  • Laura, is Mohr off the roster?

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:09 pm
  • Nope, he’s batting.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:10 pm
  • Hilarious that Putz pronounces his name “poots.” Guess someone in the family got teased a little there. But “poots” is almost more silly-sounding.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:11 pm
  • My point was basically that you don’t want Trot out of the game, but then there would be no one to hit for him if they bring out a lefty in a big situation, Hudson.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:11 pm
  • Youks BB.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:12 pm
  • I’m not sure there’s anyone among the outfield options who I’d rather hit in a clutch situation than Trot, even against lefties.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:13 pm
  • Agreed, Hudson. I still would want to save Pena, though.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:14 pm
  • Dammit. I thought tat was going to drop for a hit.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:15 pm
  • Ick. It’s up to Papi, Manny, and Trotter in the 8th. I’m going to stop watching if they go down, because after them, we got nothing.

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:16 pm
  • FOULKE.

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:17 pm
  • Hey Foulkey! let’s see if our bullpen can have a clean inning

    Sean April 17, 2006, 1:17 pm
  • And here’s Foulkie.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:17 pm
  • Foulkie sighting!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 1:18 pm
  • how’s his 85mph fastball look today?

    Sean April 17, 2006, 1:18 pm
  • RK, after Trot comes Tek and Lowell. That’s not entirely without hope.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:19 pm
  • 2 gone.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:20 pm
  • Nice inning for Foulkie.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:21 pm
  • Wow, foulkie’s effective.
    And Hudson, yes, I guess there is a bit of hope after that. Specially because if they’re up in the ninth, it’d be hard to GIDP.

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:21 pm
  • YEAH! Foulke was positively on. Awesome!
    We’ve got six outs to score one run. We can do that. We got the New and Improved Manny coming up, and before that the Current and Just Generally Awesome Big Papi.
    GO SOX!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 1:22 pm
  • And he mows ’em down.
    Seriously, let Foulkie close, get Paps in the rotation, trade Wells for some middle relief (if anyone will take him).

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:22 pm
  • In theory, Tito could pinch hit Pena for Cora if necessary and then bring in AGon.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:23 pm
  • Was that just Foulke throwing down the gauntlet at Paps?
    Brought down his ERA in the direction of 2004, too. Hmm, intriguing. BUT, I hope this inning doesn’t make Tito say to himself “oh, Foulkie’s back to being Foulkie.”
    He needs lots more time . .

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:24 pm
  • Aw man. That was soooo close.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:25 pm
  • I was so sure that was gone.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:26 pm
  • Come on, Manny boy. You can do it. I know you can.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:26 pm
  • Bring on Poots.

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:26 pm
  • I thought it was gone, too, Hudson.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:27 pm
  • I love Remy, but that wasn’t all that tough a catch by Ichiro – he’s making it to be something special. It was a routine deep fly ball.

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:27 pm
  • Did Ichiro just pull a homer back? Damn…

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 1:27 pm
  • Might have just cleared the fence if Ichiro hadn’t been there.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:27 pm
  • I disagree – I don’t think that ball was going out, and Ichiro was there with seconds to spare. Just not that difficult a play.

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:28 pm
  • Here comes Jar Jar Binks, I mean J. J. Pootz.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:28 pm
  • Damn.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:28 pm
  • C’mon, SF.. It’s Pat’s Day, and we all know that Rem is about 10 beers deep by now.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:29 pm
  • This is going to be painful.

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:29 pm
  • That would be more appropriate for SAINT Pat’s Day, Brad.

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:29 pm
  • Not that difficult a play (Ichiro was playing back), but it did look like it might have cleared the fence or hit the top of the fence if allowed to drop.
    Someone else (Pena?) might not have got it.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:29 pm
  • COME ON TROT!

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:29 pm
  • Come on, TROT!!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 1:30 pm
  • If we lose this game, it will just hurt. This sucks.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:30 pm
  • The ump is getting generous with his strike calls.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:30 pm
  • Trot 1 for 2 with a HR of Putz.
    Shelton just hit his ninth of the year. “On Fire” doesnt even describe it.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:30 pm
  • Come on, Trot!

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:30 pm
  • Stay alive, Trot.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:31 pm
  • Trot!

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:32 pm
  • This is it, Trot… Don’t watch it go by you.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:32 pm
  • I can take losing, as long as the losing is relatively clean. What really galls me is when the team plays lazy, or the manager seems to be using about 1/10th of his brain, or the players seem to have no idea of the situation of the ballgame. Lowell’s DP on 2-0 after Meche had struggled to hit the plate, Seanez coming in, Tavarez going to sleep, Cora still in the field with Gonzalez on the bench late in the game, etc., these things drive me batty.
    I can’t stand it when teams don’t do everything they can to give themselves the best chance to win. If they do that and still lose, then no complaints. Today is simply not one of those days, and it makes me very angry.

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:32 pm
  • TROT!

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:33 pm
  • Alright TROT!

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:33 pm
  • Now we just need Tek to come through.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:33 pm
  • Come on, TEK!!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 1:33 pm
  • Come on, Tek!

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:34 pm
  • I can’t really go with you on the Gonzo thing, SF..
    Cora’s bat is just as good and his defense is nearly as good. Why take Cora, who seems to be putting pretty good swings on the ball, out for a guy who may as well not even carry a bat to the plate?
    Wow, that was a gift call on Tek there.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:34 pm
  • Tek!!!!!

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:35 pm
  • C’mon Tek. Stay alive man.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:35 pm
  • YES!!!

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:36 pm
  • Beautiful.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:36 pm
  • TEK!!!!!!!

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:36 pm
  • Alright!

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:36 pm
  • YEAH!! TEK!!!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 1:36 pm
  • CAPTAIN!

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:36 pm
  • Come on, LOWELL!!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 1:36 pm
  • I see your point, Brad – that’s probably the most tenuous part of my complaint.

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:37 pm
  • OK, we got one back. Does Foulke come back out for the 9th?

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 1:37 pm
  • Slow-ell.

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:37 pm
  • Slow-ell.

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:37 pm
  • lowell tried his best to gidp. too bad for him there were already 2 outs

    Sean April 17, 2006, 1:37 pm
  • Thank you Lowell, that was too much of a good thing.

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:38 pm
  • Come on, Foulkie.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:39 pm
  • I’d give Foulke another inning, and save Papelbon for the possibility of extras. If Foulke starts to implode, they can always bring Paps in early.
    And here comes Foulke.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:39 pm
  • Yeah, is Foulke coming out? Seems like it. Good time for you to blow it, Keith.

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:39 pm
  • With Timlin warming.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:40 pm
  • One out.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:40 pm
  • Egads, that was a scary foul ball from Everett.

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:40 pm
  • Crazy Carl is dangerous.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:41 pm
  • If we’re going to complain about Francona, we should start with the lineup on the days Wake pitches. On the day when everyone in the world knows we have to score 4 runs or better, he takes out the bats all at once.
    Sometimes I don’t get him either, SF.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:41 pm
  • Manny… nice grab, but he made it as if we had a 10-run lead. He is Mr. Casual.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:42 pm
  • I H8 Everett.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:42 pm
  • How is that not a strike??

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:42 pm
  • This ump’s strike zone is all over the place.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:43 pm
  • Beltre gets a hit. Shit.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:43 pm
  • Damn. That was playable, though tough.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:44 pm
  • Wow, 4 outs a la Foulke. Seems like he’s confident and hitting his spots, does it seem that way to people who are actually watching him move, instead of just looking at his gamecast photo and pitch locations?

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:44 pm
  • Dah! Come on, FOULKIE!!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 1:44 pm
  • oh no. foulke allowing runs with two outs flashing back from last year . . .

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:45 pm
  • Shit. First and third, one out.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:45 pm
  • He’s bringing Timlin in with two on. This could get ugly.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:46 pm
  • Good baseball, bad pitching.

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:46 pm
  • Jeez. They’re not hitting it deep, but enough to threaten.
    Foulke needs a DP here, big time. Or at least a K/pop-up.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:46 pm
  • I think I’d bring in Beckett here.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 1:47 pm
  • Hey, no problem – we have the bottom third coming up in the 9th.

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:47 pm
  • I have to agree with whoever says that this NESN ad stinks. The quotes all seem fake.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:47 pm
  • Actually it’s 8-9-1 in the botom of the ninth, SF. Just for the record.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:48 pm
  • Timlin’s great at not allowing runners to score! Remember last year?
    Sigh.

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:49 pm
  • That was me, Hudson. I hate that ad. It’s like “let’s all read off cue cards and pretend we care.”

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:49 pm
  • Damn it. 6-5 M’s.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:50 pm
  • 1-1 to Petagine.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:50 pm
  • and isn’t this to perfect time for roberto petagine to let all of us know that he got stuck too long in pawtucket last year?

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:50 pm
  • Ugh. 2 outs, but now we have to come back for, what, the fourth time?

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:51 pm
  • Wait, no infield in? Playing for the DP, I guess?

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:51 pm
  • someone watching the game: was that a double play ball? what happened?

    Sean April 17, 2006, 1:51 pm
  • I’m really nervous about this. Maybe we can pull out another run, but I don’t see how.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:52 pm
  • The Sox are getting exactly what they deserve today, I hate to say.

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:52 pm
  • Loretta had to dive for it. No chance at a DP. Infield was back, but it wouldn’t have made a difference if they were in, I don’t think.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:53 pm
  • this’d be an awesome time for papi to hit his third HR of the game in the last at bat of the game. we just need two people on base in order to get to him, which is the problem.

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:53 pm
  • Sean: It was a diving stop, no chance for a DP.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:53 pm
  • Come on, guys. You can do it. I have confidence, even if it is really wavering just about now.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:53 pm
  • Laura, you’re absolutely right. The “Manny being Manny line” is delivered with no style, the girl “enthusing” for Coco Crisp is transparently trying to build him up as a hearthrob in place of Damon, etc. It’s obviously actors.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:55 pm
  • Pena hitting for Cora.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:56 pm
  • Pena in for Cora. Whew.

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:56 pm
  • Cora: .167
    Mohr: .200
    Pena to pinch-hit for Cora.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:56 pm
  • That ad is laughably bad, and we should all, as Sox fans, be scared about it being used against us in the future at some point. We must demand NESN to stop running it.

    SF April 17, 2006, 1:56 pm
  • This is a good situation for Pena to pinch hit, at the top of an inning. With runners on and 2 outs, I’d be nervous about taking the chance. But the alternatives are not pretty.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:57 pm
  • I hate the “Jonathan papelbon is so intense” line the most, because she sounds like she knows nothing about what it means to watch a guy as intense as Pap. And you’ll notice that none of them have New England accents, either.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:57 pm
  • C’Mon Willy Mo!!!!!
    86mph over the heart of the plate, and he looks at it?

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:58 pm
  • C’Mon Willy Mo!!!!!
    86mph over the heart of the plate, and he looks at it?

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:58 pm
  • It sure looks like Pena’s been told to take more pitches.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 1:58 pm
  • Ugh. Pena k’s. Surprise, surprise.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:58 pm
  • Wow, what a surprise.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:58 pm
  • C’Mon Morh – plead your case brother.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 1:59 pm
  • And Mohr k’s too. Great. Come on, Youk!

    Laura April 17, 2006, 1:59 pm
  • That, right there, at this point in time, tells us that today, we would have been better off with Arroyo making this start, and not having Pena.
    I know that maybe in years he’ll learn to manage his at bats better, but today, I’d rather the trade not have taken place.

    rk April 17, 2006, 1:59 pm
  • COME ON YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUK!!!!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 2:00 pm
  • Mohr Ks, too.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 2:00 pm
  • Everyday ‘friggin Eddie is mowing us down. Holy crap.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 2:00 pm
  • 3-4 homestands against the Jays and the Mariners are not acceptable.

    SF April 17, 2006, 2:00 pm
  • Youk!!

    Laura April 17, 2006, 2:01 pm
  • YYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK! Just get on.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 2:01 pm
  • Yooks reaches!

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 2:01 pm
  • COMEONLORETTA!!!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 2:01 pm
  • Brad, a little too emphatic with the Youk! I thought he had jacked one when I refreshed the browser…

    SF April 17, 2006, 2:02 pm
  • come on mahk!!!

    rk April 17, 2006, 2:02 pm
  • Oh my god!!!!!

    Laura April 17, 2006, 2:02 pm
  • is this a situation where we’re supposed to talk about new players proving they’re “true Red Sox” like yanks fans would?

    Sean April 17, 2006, 2:02 pm
  • DIRTY WATER!!!!!!!!

    mp April 17, 2006, 2:02 pm
  • SWEET, LORETTA!

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 2:03 pm
  • Wow. Just wow.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 2:03 pm
  • OHMYGOD YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!
    LORETTA!!!!! WE WIN!!!!

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 2:03 pm
  • HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!

    SF April 17, 2006, 2:03 pm
  • OH MY GOD.
    MAHHHHK!!!!

    rk April 17, 2006, 2:03 pm
  • I’m grinning from ear to ear.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 2:03 pm
  • WWOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Brad April 17, 2006, 2:03 pm
  • Like I said, 3-4 HOMESTANDS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!!

    SF April 17, 2006, 2:03 pm
  • Ugh. Time to put Everyday Eddie out to pasture. Putz.

    Spidey April 17, 2006, 2:04 pm
  • I’m just in shock right now. I can’t stop smiling. This is why I watch baseball.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 2:04 pm
  • GOOD CALL, SF…

    Brad April 17, 2006, 2:04 pm
  • That’s “P-yootz” to you, Spidey!

    SF April 17, 2006, 2:05 pm
  • And not a moment to soon, as I gotta run to class. That was awesome, even on gamecast. Man, I wish I’d seen that.

    mattymatty April 17, 2006, 2:05 pm
  • That was almost too good to be true. Wow.
    Sox have won a staggering number of 1-run games in a row at Fenway.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 2:05 pm
  • “Good call, SF”
    Har, har. I wish. I was pretty much resigned to the loss. That’ll teach me. Ain’t baseball great!?!?

    SF April 17, 2006, 2:06 pm
  • that totally justified skipping school to watch gamecast

    Sean April 17, 2006, 2:06 pm
  • yeah, I was being sarcastic.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 2:06 pm
  • SF, my prediction at the beginning of this game was that this discussion was going to be a high roller in terms of number of comments because we’re all lazy people and don’t do any work (and because of Patriot’s Day). where does this one rate? even the posts after you guys got the link from BDD didn’t get to 300, as far as i can remember.

    rk April 17, 2006, 2:06 pm
  • yeah, other than the Jeter stalker post, this one has to rank up there…

    Brad April 17, 2006, 2:07 pm
  • i just yelled ‘fuck yeah’ a little too loud a work….amazing!

    T-sf April 17, 2006, 2:07 pm
  • It’s up there. And there weren’t any trolling YFs on this thread, besides Spidey at the end.

    SF April 17, 2006, 2:08 pm
  • I love the smell of baseball in the morning.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 2:08 pm
  • T-SF:
    Join the club, man. Everyone in my lab is watching me in amazement.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 2:09 pm
  • The cool thing is that MLB.com’s TV broadcast is still showing the WB Mason Extra Innings show, so I get to watch Tom Caron and Jim Ed (who both got a gift certificate for new eyewear, apparently) riff on the comeback.

    SF April 17, 2006, 2:13 pm
  • For all of the good he’s done us with doubles, timely hitting, and RBIs so far this season, that was actually Loretta’s first HR of the season.
    NICE timing, buddy.
    As much as Wake is going to miss Doug, that was a good trade – Theo scored on that one.

    rk April 17, 2006, 2:16 pm
  • Suddenly I’m feeling very good about this team. I really had no faith in them going into the ninth, and they proved me wrong. As soon as Coco is back, I think we’ll be quite a team to reckon with, especially with Manny seemingly getting back to his normal self. I’m just really, really happy right now.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 2:25 pm
  • Keep the faith!
    Laura, you obviously never truly lost it – you kept watching didn’t you?

    Sean April 17, 2006, 2:27 pm
  • With Coco and Trot in this lineup, it’s so much more deadly and versatile than without them. This team is easily better than last year’s team, and I just don’t mean with the pitching, but all around this team is much, much better.

    Brad April 17, 2006, 2:32 pm
  • Who da thunk it? This is getting real fun.

    drewspop April 17, 2006, 2:34 pm
  • 320+ comments on this thread so far. what’s the standing record on YFSF? just curious

    mp April 17, 2006, 2:37 pm
  • get back loretta!

    Manny's Mission April 17, 2006, 2:55 pm
  • the Deerek and Stacy thread has more than this, I’m sure, mp. That one’s crazy. And, Sean, how could I not watch? I was sure that they were going to lose, but you’re right, I wasn’t ready to give up on them. It’s what being a Sox fan’s all about, I guess.

    Laura April 17, 2006, 3:09 pm
  • “Derek and Stacy” is up to 410 comments. Not only that, but it wasn’t even a game thread, so that number of posts built up over the course of a year+, a debate “evolving” (if you can call it that) in the long-term. It’s the Holy Grail of this site, thread-wise, even if it is only tangentially about baseball.

    SF April 17, 2006, 3:26 pm
  • Hey, wha’happened to Whatever? Guess he has no trash to talk today.

    Hudson April 17, 2006, 3:53 pm
  • Adding one more to the list by saying that I too had issues with yelling at M-Lo’s homer, staying at my in-laws’ house, watching ESPN Gamecast on a dial-up modem. Watching that little ball sail toward the left-field wall … I got almost as excited as if I’d been there! If the Sox can win this game, a game they should not have won, it gives me great hope for the season.

    Paul A. April 17, 2006, 6:57 pm
  • Oh Huuddssoonn…Here I ammm… Now Huddy, did it ever cross your intellectually constipated mind that I might have been at work today? No, of course not. Logic and reason are two of many things little Huddy is lacking.

    whatever April 17, 2006, 9:35 pm

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