“Submission? Well That’s Gonna Be a Bit Of A Problem.” Yankees and Sox Gamer XVII

Derek Jeter channelled his inner Spartan during a pitching change in the six inning of last night’s game and told the infielders that the Yankees would win the game.  “I don’t always say that but I felt that way,” he said. “We had missed a lot of opportunities before.”  Once again the Yankees and Sox have showed us that we can always expect the unexpected whenever these two teams meet.  In a marathon of a game, the Yankees were able to pull ahead in the end and take game #1. 

Today we get Chien-Ming Wang and Josh Beckett, the best each team has to offer.  After today’s battle between these two Cy Young candidates we may finally have a better idea of who the front runner is.  Wang has a 2.04 ERA in his last five starts and can match his career-high win total from last season with a win today.  Beckett has also been very good over his last five starts posting a 3.41 ERA and a 3-1 record.  A matchup of contrasting styles, but usually they provide similar results.  Will Wang’s "Luck" continue or will those ground balls finally find some holes?  Will we see the Beckett from the 2003 World Series or the 2006 version?  Only time will tell.  Buckle up and get ready for what I am sure will be another knockdown drag out battle.

Let the comments begin!

Yankees

1. Johnny Damon, LF
2. Derek Jeter, SS
3. Bobby Abreu, RF
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Jorge Posada, C
6. Hideki Matsui, DH
7. Jason Giambi, 1B
8. Robinson Cano, 2B
9. Melky Cabrera, CF

Chien-Ming Wang, SP

Red Sox:

1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, LF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Eric Hinske, LF
8. Coco Crisp, CF
9. Julio Lugo, SS

Josh Beckett, SP 

270 comments… add one
  • I fear to watch, yet I cannot turn away…

    Devine September 15, 2007, 1:08 pm
  • YANKEES!! TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!!
    … or something.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 1:23 pm
  • If Wang can throw his sinker consistently, Yanks take it.
    But God I can’t help but to keep seeing Detroit in the rear-view mirror…

    Andy September 15, 2007, 1:31 pm
  • It’s like a car accident in slow (very slow) motion.

    Pete September 15, 2007, 1:34 pm
  • We’ll never hear about any of the times that some player told his teammates, “We’re gonna win this one” — and then they lost.
    It’s the same dynamic that keeps the lottery going. No one runs around bragging that their numbers never come up.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 1:36 pm
  • Meanwhile… I don’t follow the Boston sports media that closely, but I’m surprised I haven’t heard at least Dirt Dogs alleging/whining that Manny is “faking” it, taking his customary end-of-season vacation, etc. — given how much the media loves to bash Manny.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 1:42 pm
  • I thought that Manny’s contract ended in July, or at least that is what Manny thinks.

    YF September 15, 2007, 2:08 pm
  • From Edes:
    SOX
    Pedroia 4
    Youkilis 3
    Ortiz D
    Lowell 5
    Drew 9
    Varitek 2
    Hinske 7
    Crisp 8
    Lugo 6
    Beckett 1
    Yanks
    Damon 7
    Jeter 6
    Abreu 9
    A-Rod 5
    Posada 2
    Matsui D
    Giambi 3
    Cano 4
    Cabrera 8
    Wang 1

    Pete September 15, 2007, 2:12 pm
  • Oh sh*t…I’ve actually started to get excited for this game. DAMN IT! Now if they lose, it will hurt more!
    Ah well…
    Bring it, you bastards!

    Devine September 15, 2007, 2:37 pm
  • What? No Jellsbury Doughboy? Didn’t he play pretty well last night?
    Also, today is a JOBA DAY.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 2:58 pm
  • Offtopic – but Pedro Martinez is amazing.
    So far 5 IP, 6H, 1 ER, 8 K.
    And his fastball barely hits 90mph. As FJM likes to say, fuck the heck?

    AndrewYF September 15, 2007, 3:03 pm
  • I don’t understand why Jacoby isn’t in versus a groundball pitcher. Why bench your fastest guy, who happens to have an 11 or 12 game streak going?

    Tyrel SF September 15, 2007, 3:04 pm
  • Because Francona chose today to “show faith” in Hinske. Or something like that.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 3:22 pm
  • I generally like Tito, but his inability to keep from dicking around with successful lineups drives me insane. Ellsbury should be our lead-off hitter today.

    Tyrel SF September 15, 2007, 3:25 pm
  • Agreed – Jacoby should be in today. FTH.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 3:31 pm
  • Doesn’t Hinske, like, own Wang? Heh. I’m too lazy to look up the #’s….

    yankeemonkey September 15, 2007, 3:47 pm
  • Wow, Hinske’s numbers vs Wang in 22 AB:
    .455 .478 .909 with 2 homeruns.
    Small sample size? Or does he have something on the guy?

    AndrewYF September 15, 2007, 3:51 pm
  • Yeah, YM. .455/.478/.909: 1.387 in 23 at-bats.

    Paul SF September 15, 2007, 3:53 pm
  • Wow, thanks for the splits Andrew. Maybe I stand corrected, though I reserve the right to bitch later.

    Tyrel SF September 15, 2007, 3:54 pm
  • No, Hinske’s had 22 ABs, as many as Mike Lowell. Ouch.
    Still, you’d think the Red Sox would want to go with the Jellsbury Doughboy and the hot hand.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 3:54 pm
  • By Jove, you’re right. Hinske vs. Wang:
    .455/.478/.909 (1.387 OPS) with a walk and 2 Ks in 22 ABs.
    Small sample size though…

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 3:55 pm
  • Okay, so I guess we all know how to look up stats!

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 3:56 pm
  • ok, we’re seated. Started the day with a showing of “superbad”, now it is game time.
    YF just yelled “die Dane Cook”, perhaps a justifiable phrase, but not exactly something that pleased the father of three young kids in the row in front of us. Classy, that YF.
    Enjoy the game everyone!

    SF September 15, 2007, 3:56 pm
  • Wait – those numbers are lifetime, though. Hinske is 0-6 against Wang this season with an OBP of… zero.
    Yep. Definitely should have gone with the hot hand.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 3:57 pm
  • WRKO says Manny took BP in the cage today. Guess that’s promising?

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 3:58 pm
  • Cook threw out the first pitch, which us what drove YF to say that.

    SF September 15, 2007, 3:58 pm
  • 4 fastballs, then a curve to Damon, which he hits back to the pitcher.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:01 pm
  • Ground ball to Youk. Damon down, 1 out.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:01 pm
  • SF, we shouldn’t hide our children from the truth. The statement “Dane Cook should die” is a truism. Dane Cook is only popular because of his body language. And because college girls think he’s “hott.” Plus he steals jokes from other comedians (Louis CK, for example).
    Do those kids in front of you even know who Dane Cook is? YF is contributing to their cultural education and you shouldn’t interfere.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:01 pm
  • Ooops, to first, where it’s then thrown to the pitcher.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:02 pm
  • Way to go YF! Tell Dane Cook I want my money back from that awful movie I paid to see with him and Jessica Simpson!

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:02 pm
  • Good Guys 1-0. The CAPTAIN goes big fly!

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:03 pm
  • Dane Cook and Derek Jeter: Both on my list of people who should die. ;)

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 4:04 pm
  • Walk issued to A-Rod.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:09 pm
  • The Captain CRUNCHES one out of the park!
    (did you see what I did there)
    Also, Dane Cook: A guy everyone can agree on.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:09 pm
  • The Captain CRUNCHES one out of the park!
    (did you see what I did there)
    Also, Dane Cook: A guy everyone can agree on.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:10 pm
  • Alex steals second, no throw.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:10 pm
  • Was that 2nd pitch as inside as Gameday makes it look?

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 4:11 pm
  • Walk to Jorge. Runners on 1st and 2nd, 2 outs.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:13 pm
  • HIP HIP JORGE, walk it out walk it out

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:13 pm
  • Oh, Beckett what are you DOING?

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 4:13 pm
  • Christ.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:14 pm
  • 1st pitch hit on the ground by Matsui to Youk. Inning over. 2 runners left on.
    Bottom 1, 1-0 Good Guys.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:14 pm
  • you don’t have access to a tv, jackie? the game’s on Fox.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:15 pm
  • Finally out of the inning. Ok, time to score some runs. Maybe, you know, establish a 5 run lead that we can carry into the 8th inning, or something.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 4:15 pm
  • not surprised to see matsui ground out on the very first pitch… c’mon man, keep the pressure on!
    1 run and 30 pitches though, i’ll take that.

    nyara September 15, 2007, 4:16 pm
  • Jackie’s Fox game is probably the Padres!

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:17 pm
  • Base hit right up the middle for Pedroia.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:17 pm
  • Youk goes down swinging. 1 Out. Papi up.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:19 pm
  • Ah, the Padres are playing. Wow, I’m lucky the Tigers or the Cubs aren’t playing.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:21 pm
  • Wow, that is a BRIGHT field.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:21 pm
  • Papi lines one to right field, gets lost a little in the sun. Runners on 1st and 2nd, 1 out. As Girardi calls him “Mikey” Lowell is up.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:21 pm
  • RBI single by Lowell. Pedroia scores.
    I don’t know if the Padres are on, I was joking. I think Jackie is in California.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:23 pm
  • Drew hits a screamer to Cano…LOL. 2 outs.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:24 pm
  • McCarver: “Fans can guarantee their money’s worth.”
    Fans can also guarantee JD Drew getting out.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:24 pm
  • I’m pretty sure our Fox affiliate is carrying the Oakland game (I live in NorCal) but it’s a moot point since I’m in lab right now. I’d rather listen to the radio guys than the Fox guys anyway…

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 4:25 pm
  • Ellsbury has a sore wrist?

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:25 pm
  • Hinske kills the rally, holy crap Giambi gave me a scare.
    .455 lifetime against Wang, huh?

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:26 pm
  • Giambi throws his body in front of a Varitek ground ball, tosses to Wang. 3 outs. Inning over.
    Top 2nd all tied up.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:26 pm
  • I beg to differ…Varitek kills the rally, as did Drew.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:26 pm
  • Oh yeah, you’re right. I am NOT paying very good attention to this game. lol.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:28 pm
  • Giambi looked like he just missed that one. Shallow fly to right. 1 Out.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:29 pm
  • Beautiful play by Pedroia. 2 outs.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:31 pm
  • Pedroia turns “THIS WAY!”
    thx magic TV pen. So helpful.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:31 pm
  • Two outs on 5 pitches. ‘kay…

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:31 pm
  • Feel a little bad for Drew – he hit the ball hard, just happened to be right at someone. Par for the course I guess.
    Nice play by Pedroia, apparently?

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 4:31 pm
  • So the Yanks and Sox both go tit-for-tat in the 1st inning… I can see this is going to be another epic saga.
    I’m going to dinner at 7 o’clock and yet I won’t be surprised if I’m able to see the end of the game.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 4:31 pm
  • “We’re going to talk to Dane Cook later today.”
    Looks like I know when to take a bathroom break later.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:32 pm
  • Leche goes down swinging.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:32 pm
  • Nice recovery, Beckett.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:33 pm
  • Did I just hear one of the Fox announcers say something like this?
    “Either the Red Sox will suffer their second-biggest collapse in history and miss the playoffs entirely, or else they will win a division title”
    No, there are other possibilities….

    Ron Newman September 15, 2007, 4:33 pm
  • Becks gets ’em 1-2-3 in the second.
    (Oh, so *now* you want a pitcher’s duel, ye baseball gods? Let’s see what Wang’s got in the bottom half. Ugh, that sounded R-rated.)

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 4:34 pm
  • My apologies Jackie, Drew did NOT hit the ball hard I was being a ball buster. Drew hit a weaaaaaak dribbler to Cano.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:34 pm
  • Yeah, it was Varitek who hit the ball solidly, but Giambi able to knock it down.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:34 pm
  • jackie: yeah, Cano hit a bouncer up the middle, Pedroia dives to his right, stops the ball with the glove. Instead of turning towards 1B, he does a barrel roll, gets up, and makes the throw.
    I’m pretty bad at explaining things, though.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:35 pm
  • Haha, I suppose I should know by now to never trust a YF. ;)

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 4:35 pm
  • The Sox could go .500 for the remainder and still almost surely make the playoffs. If it’s McCarver, Buck, Morgan or some combination thereof, brace yourself for a calvacade of the stupids.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 4:35 pm
  • Thanks for the attempt, Doug, it was pretty good… I’ll try to catch it on the highlights once they’re up on MLB.tv

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 4:35 pm
  • Wang rings up Hinske. Sample size? Very yes.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:36 pm
  • Hinske…predictable K on three pitches. Is Ellsbury’s wrist hurting a lot?

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:36 pm
  • Crisp takes a pratfall on an outside pitch. LOL.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:37 pm
  • WOW what a snowcone grab by Cano. What a reaction.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:37 pm
  • Here comes .216 hitter Eric Hinske to test a theory.
    And he Ks. So far, the statheads are behind.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 4:38 pm
  • I think statheads would argue that any pitcher vs. batter stats are pretty much meaningless because of the small sample size.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:39 pm
  • Wang gets the K! Inning OVAH.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:39 pm
  • The Sox seem committed to helping Wang keep his pitch count down today. Lots of quick hits and quick outs.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 4:39 pm
  • Each pitcher has a mildly shaky first, then a great second. Goodness.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:39 pm
  • So… Dane Cook is a Sox fan.

    Eirias September 15, 2007, 4:42 pm
  • I was just thinking – if baseball’s concerned about its image as a sport followed only by white Americans in the US… Dane Cook is probably not the best guy to use for your postseason marketing campaign.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:43 pm
  • Beckett Ks Judas.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 4:44 pm
  • SIDDOWN!

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:44 pm
  • J.B. really pounded the strike zone there.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 4:45 pm
  • I love the fact that Dane considers himself part of RSN and keeps saying WE do this and WE do that…LOL lucky RSN!

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 4:46 pm
  • Thank goodness I’m not listening.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:47 pm
  • I miss the crowd noise, but pretty much all announcers should (metaphorically) burn in hell.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:47 pm
  • Base hit for Bobby.
    what the hell are “hotsies?”

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:47 pm
  • Beckett already at 52 pitches. He won’t make it through the 5th inning at this rate.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 4:50 pm
  • Trisk, well, the Son of Sam was a Yanks fan. That’s almost as bad as Dane Cook.

    Tyrel SF September 15, 2007, 4:51 pm
  • Heck yeah, down goes A-Rod.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:52 pm
  • Inning over, Abreu single harmless as Beckett Ks Arod on a 3-2 count… Nice.
    But my concern is that Beckett’s already at nearly 60 pitches after three and Wang’s at 23 after two. If these guys keep matching up, score-wise, New York will have the advantage of their starter going deeper into the game.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 4:52 pm
  • A serial killer = “almost as bad as Dane Cook.”
    Uh… whatever works for you, guy.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:53 pm
  • C’mon, doug, clearly a joke.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 4:53 pm
  • Bad joke, at that. Sorry.

    Tyrel SF September 15, 2007, 4:54 pm
  • lol @ how we jumped from “bad comedian” to “SERIAL KILLER” so fast, huh?

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:56 pm
  • it’s all good, though.
    Wang’s pitch is too strong for U-kilis. Soft liner to Cano. 2 out.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 4:57 pm
  • >>>Son of Sam was a Yanks fan
    I’m pretty sure that Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot and Idi Amin were also Yanks fans.
    Sox fans: Washington, Lincoln, FDR, MLK, Gandhi.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 4:57 pm
  • Ortiz walks. Finally, some patience up there against Wang.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 5:00 pm
  • 100 BBs by Papi for three straight seasons, according to the radio.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 5:01 pm
  • You forgot Mussolini.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 5:01 pm
  • Now Lowell walks.
    Bringing up… J.D.
    (The dude could end the booing for the rest of the season with a dinger here.)

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 5:04 pm
  • and Drew walks too … 16 pitches without a swing. Now time for Tek

    Josh in NY (SF) September 15, 2007, 5:05 pm
  • Unfortunately, Dane Cook trumps just about all of them…

    Tyrel SF September 15, 2007, 5:05 pm
  • Naw, Il Duce only followed the WWF.
    – – – – –
    Third walk in a row, now comes Tek, swinging the world’s slowest bat of late.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 5:05 pm
  • toast

    dc September 15, 2007, 5:06 pm
  • Tek evidently didn’t get the memo that Wang is wild. He swings on the first two pitches, and pops up the second to Cano. Bah.

    Josh in NY (SF) September 15, 2007, 5:06 pm
  • I hate Tek at the plate….soooooo much.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 5:06 pm
  • Tek leaves ’em loaded with a pop-up.
    I’m only surprised it wasn’t a K. Feh.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 5:06 pm
  • Wang gets out of that sticky situation (sorry)… as Varitek kills the rally again.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 5:06 pm
  • On the (very slightly) bright side, at least Wang’s pitch count was boosted a bit there (46 vs. Beckett’s 58).

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 5:07 pm
  • Tek has 5 LOB already.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 5:09 pm
  • Hip-Hip-Josh strikes out Posada. 1 out.

    Josh in NY (SF) September 15, 2007, 5:10 pm
  • 75 minutes for 3 innings thus far. looks to be another loooooooong game.

    nyara September 15, 2007, 5:11 pm
  • Becks with Ks #4 and 5.

    Hudson September 15, 2007, 5:14 pm
  • Beckett strikes out the side. Posada, Matsui, and Giambi. Back on track.

    Josh in NY (SF) September 15, 2007, 5:15 pm
  • nice 3rd pitch to giambi…it was a strike despite g’s whining, but tek’s the best at framing a pitch to make it look better…

    dc September 15, 2007, 5:17 pm
  • 3rd pitch=3rd strike

    dc September 15, 2007, 5:17 pm
  • is anybody going to muse about wang’s being lucky to get so many easy fly balls today…hmm…technically a fly ball or popup is an easier play because it doesn’t involve a throw and then catch at first base…hmm…

    dc September 15, 2007, 5:23 pm
  • Youkilis gets drilled. LMAO.
    Drops to the ground screaming like a baby. “AHHH!! AHHH SHIT!!!”

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 5:38 pm
  • Wow, ouch. Right on the forearm. You could hear his swears on the broadcast. I do hope he’s okay.

    AndrewYF September 15, 2007, 5:38 pm
  • Well, SFs got their wish, Ellsbury is in the game. Watch him steal on another pickoff.

    AndrewYF September 15, 2007, 5:39 pm
  • Here’s the Doughboy!

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 5:39 pm
  • uh, was that another blown call?…youk, leaning out over the plate, actually swung and missed, with the bat anyway…

    dc September 15, 2007, 5:40 pm
  • Unfortunate that Youk got hit. Hope he is ok. Never want to see anyone hurt.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 5:41 pm
  • agree trisk

    dc September 15, 2007, 5:42 pm
  • Doug, ever the classy Yankee fan. Way to uphold the stereotype.
    Could easily be a broken arm, and it’s also probably a bench-clearing scrum waiting to happen, if not tonight then tomorrow.
    And that’s not a swing, it wasn’t even that close. He did lean into it a bit but uh, somehow that didn’t seem intentional…

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 5:43 pm
  • Ugh, enough of this ‘line drive right at someone’ crap.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 5:44 pm
  • Drew with an RBI! Will wonders never cease!

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 5:45 pm
  • I am so glad that Jason Varitek is in this lineup.

    AndrewYF September 15, 2007, 5:46 pm
  • Why would that cause a brawl? Wang had hid 0-2, with Papi coming up, absolutely zero reason to hit him. It was an accident, an unfortunate one, but an accident none the less.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 5:46 pm
  • Drew! Finally!
    The bottom of this lineup is a gigantic black hole of suck…

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 5:46 pm
  • Oh my god. I almost jinxed it. Jesus.

    Anonymous September 15, 2007, 5:47 pm
  • Me.

    AndrewYF September 15, 2007, 5:47 pm
  • …Tek misses a homer by ten feet. Ugh. That was a great pitch to hit…

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 5:48 pm
  • Doesn’t have to be rational to ratchet up the tension – unfortunately.
    I definitely got Truped on that last foul ball.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 5:48 pm
  • Oh please. If it was any other dude besides Youkilis, then I wouldn’t find it funny at all.
    You guys all know how Youkilis about getting hit in that interview. “Maybe they don’t like me!” He needs to quit calling attention to himself.
    Wang gets Varitek on the chopper to 2nd, inning over. Let’s get the run back.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 5:48 pm
  • Beckett retires the side. Jeter, Bobby, and Alex. And the beat goes on.

    Josh in NY (SF) September 15, 2007, 5:55 pm
  • another 1-2-3. Nice.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 5:55 pm
  • Beckett at 92 pitches, btw.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 5:55 pm
  • A positively Wang-ian inning for Beckett. That sucked.

    AndrewYF September 15, 2007, 5:57 pm
  • Holy crap. Maybe the stats were right.

    Josh in NY (SF) September 15, 2007, 5:58 pm
  • Youk X-rays are negative, nothing broken (per WRKO). Bet he’s bruised as hell though.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 5:58 pm
  • Holy crap, Hinske does something good. Great career numbers against Wang but not so much this season…something like 0 for 8 before that double.
    And Youk’s wrist isn’t broken, thankfully.

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 5:59 pm
  • Crisp embarrasses himself trying to bunt, then slaps a 1-2 pitch into left-center. Hinske gets an awful read and can’t score, but that’s probably the right move anyway given that there aren’t any outs.
    1st and 3rd, Lugo swings at the first pitch and hits a popfly. F*cking pathetic.

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:02 pm
  • Fan interference on that huge Drew line drive…
    BANG BANG BANG!!! JORGE POSADA AIN’T NUTHIN’ TA F*** WIT!!!

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 6:05 pm
  • bartman

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:06 pm
  • Dumb Ass!!! Yeah JORGE!!!

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 6:06 pm
  • Go back to the bench Hinske.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 6:06 pm
  • I despise idiotic fans…probably a foul ball, but we;ll never know for sure.
    Pathetic at-bat number 2, Pedroia hitting a weak groundball to second. F*cking inexcusable; I’m also a little surprised Posada is standing up right now.

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:07 pm
  • God I hate making outs at home plate. Sounds like Hinske shook Posada up pretty good, which pleases me.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 6:07 pm
  • Jorge Posada. What a freaking BEAST.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 6:07 pm
  • they’re calling that a clean play, but a forearm/elbow to the throat was lame by hinske…

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:07 pm
  • …whatever you say dc…looked completely clean to me…

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:08 pm
  • Agreed DC that was slightly lame, but in Hinske’s defense there was little room to do anything but barrel him over. The elbow was extra.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 6:09 pm
  • No such thing as a lame play when Arod is on the opposing team. That guy defines ‘lame play’, continuously.

    BostonRAW September 15, 2007, 6:10 pm
  • What elbow? Is he supposed to keep his arms flat at his side and just hit him with his chest? I’ve never seen a play at the plate that didn’t involve the arms coming up.
    Wow. Ellsbury, again. A little lucky to find a hole, but it was well-struck.

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:11 pm
  • dc, I dunno. I’m not taking anything from Hinske here, that was a monster clean hit…. but Jorge totally sonned him on that play.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 6:11 pm
  • Braw: OH U~

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 6:12 pm
  • i’m so surprised you’d say that josh…still no bias from you eh?…i still say a forearm/elbow in the head region is lame…hopefully the yanks will be in a position to return the favor, then i want to hear your opinion…

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:12 pm
  • Jacoby strengthening the argument against basing lineup construction on 22 ABs.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 6:12 pm
  • Just wanted to log on to say that Hinske just made me smile by smashing into Posada. Oh, and Big Papi does it again. 5-1.

    Atheose September 15, 2007, 6:13 pm
  • I’m getting an ELLS-BU-RY chant going over here. All by myself, but who cares!

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 6:13 pm
  • I know I know only the Yankees do dirty things. That’s clear.
    AWFUL call, AWFUL, JELLS was out

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 6:13 pm
  • clownboy’s back, the sox must be winning…don’t need to track the score, just watch for him to crawl out from under the rock…meantime umps having another tough game…

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:13 pm
  • The throw was in time, but looks like Posada never got the tag on Jacoby?

    Josh in NY (SF) September 15, 2007, 6:14 pm
  • Papi!! Ellsbury is so f*cking fast! Holy hell!
    It looked to me like Posada had the ball in time to tag him out, but didn’t try to tag him…seemed like he just sat there expecting Ellsbury to run into his glove, which was held up near his facemask.

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:14 pm
  • Guys watch the replay…Hinske CLEARLY comes up with the elbow. He’s trying to knock the ball out…Is it dirty, ehhh, it is what it is. But call it as it is, there were arms and elbows.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 6:15 pm
  • i think the announcer types may suggest that ells didn’t touch the plate

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:15 pm
  • or not

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:16 pm
  • He never tagged him, not once. I think he was bracing for another hit and just forgot to reach out and tag him.

    LocklandSF September 15, 2007, 6:16 pm
  • Come on Yfs, that was a totally clean play. Props to Posada. Too bad he blew the tag on Ellsbury.

    Tom sf September 15, 2007, 6:16 pm
  • the catcher is fair game.

    TJ September 15, 2007, 6:17 pm
  • Come on Yfs, that was a totally clean play. Props to Posada. Too bad he blew the tag on Ellsbury.

    Tom sf September 15, 2007, 6:17 pm
  • Keep this “Come on Yankee fans” crap in mind next time someone from the Yankees slides into second and we say it’s part of the game and you guys b*tch about A-Rod coming up with his arms or Duncan sliding past the base.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 6:18 pm
  • Whatever dc, no, I don’t think I’m biased. I guess as an SF who disagrees with you I must be though, huh? All I’m saying is every collision I’ve ever seen at the plate involved the forearms one way or another; I didn’t see any intentional attempt to hit Posada in the face. You’re going to run into something, you put your arms up; if someone’s head is at your chest-level, that’s what happens.
    Posada sits there with the ball but never tries to tag him. Just kinda holds onto it. Not sure what he was thinking…

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:18 pm
  • John, there is a difference between a catcher blocking the plate and a baserunner trying to elbow a fielder in the nuts.

    Tom sf September 15, 2007, 6:20 pm
  • Clearly, being smashed into by Hinske affected Posada’s ability to make the play on Ellsbury.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 6:20 pm
  • “…totally clean play…”
    totally?…uh, you have to say that…like i said, i’d like to hear what you say if the tables are ever turned…i’m ok with bowling the catcher over, but real men usually lead with the shoulder not an elbow to the throat…meantime, posada did miss the ellsbury tag, and didn’t realize it because he didn’t react like a catcher missing a tag normally would…like lunge at the guy to tag him “again”…

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:21 pm
  • Your right because the Sox ran over the catcher and the Yankees slide into second. It’s the SAME thing, both players are trying to break up a play bottom line.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 6:22 pm
  • That would be true if there was an elbow, but it was a forearm. Posada made a great play.

    Tom sf September 15, 2007, 6:24 pm
  • Well, you all said Arod’s elbow in to Pedroia was clean, which it wasn’t, but that play was at second.
    The play at home is different. The catcher is wearing armor. He’s fair game in every sense of the word.

    LocklandSF September 15, 2007, 6:24 pm
  • actually, d-1, you may think you’re on higher ground now that you have a new role and handle here, but you’re the same biased d-1 whose gotten into it with me before…i don’t want any hard feelings man…i’m entitled to my opinion same as you are…i admit i have a yankee bias, but that play was excessive…

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:24 pm
  • Wrong again. The second baseman did not block the bag.

    Tom sf September 15, 2007, 6:24 pm
  • I know I know he didn’t mean to hit him. LOL.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 6:25 pm
  • “real men usually lead with the shoulder not an elbow to the throat”
    Oh. So I guess you must have been very upset with A-Rod a few months back, huh? I just disagree with the basic premise here; I really think most collisions involve the arms coming up. And not the shoulder. Because that’s your first instinct…or it was always mine, and it’s what I think of when I think of a collision.
    And there’s the retaliation. I don’t think Wang did it on purpose, but I do think this is the kind of thing that’ll happen regardless of intent. And no, I don’t really like it…

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:25 pm
  • Ok Tom, I don’t know baseball, you do. Whatever you say chief.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 6:26 pm
  • Giambi HBP – intentional?
    WRKO announcers: “Well, if he meant to do it, he did it the right way.” Apparently intended for the ribcage.
    Sigh. I do not want to get into this. The Sox do not need injuries heading into Sept/Oct baseball.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 6:26 pm
  • And of course the free pass is always stupid. If this HBP leads to a run I will be furious.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 6:28 pm
  • Whatever, dc, I’m tired of this. Everytime I’ve ever disagreed with you it’s been because of my HUGE bias.
    And that’s why hitting someone on purpose is a stupid thing to do. Ugh. Never a good idea to give the Yankees free baserunners…

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:28 pm
  • Trisk, come on man, you can’t possibly say a play at the plate and a play at cecond to break up a double play are the same thing?
    It’s just not.

    LocklandSF September 15, 2007, 6:29 pm
  • Maybe so.

    Tom sf September 15, 2007, 6:29 pm
  • typical yankees, blowing the mini-rally and letting beckett off after the hbp
    yeah d-1, arod does some dick-ish things, and going after pedroia was one of them…if you can find where i said differently, i’m all ears…

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:29 pm
  • Red Sox fans: I’m a die hard Twins fan but the Red Sox are in second place. I watched that game fall apart in the 8th inning and I’m so sorry! I hope you kick Yankee butt today. I can’t stand them.

    Becca September 15, 2007, 6:30 pm
  • PS: One last thing about the play at the plate…the forearms come up and into the catcher in every baseball video game I’ve ever played. Hehe.

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:30 pm
  • Ace.

    Devine September 15, 2007, 6:31 pm
  • It’s the same premise, your job is to break up the play. Can you be as aggressive going into second? No. But your job is to go in there as hard as you can and break up the play. I have seen guys do ANYTHING they can to break up a double play. Same thing goes for plays at the plate, except you can barrel the player catching the ball.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 6:31 pm
  • josh, you rarely if ever take a pro-yankee viewpoint, that’s what makes you seem biased…but i’m ok with that…you are a sox fan after all…i said i have a yankee bias, but at least i can recognize arod’s dick-ish tendencies….

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:32 pm
  • Josh you are 100% right, the arms do come up and that’s natural, I said that earlier I won’t argue that. My point is that there was a little extra.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 6:32 pm
  • I agree, let’s just forget it. Although I still say props to Posada. And I don’t like the guy. but that was a tough play.

    Tom sf September 15, 2007, 6:34 pm
  • did they say JD Drew clutch performer?

    rowley September 15, 2007, 6:34 pm
  • did they say JD Drew clutch performer?

    rowley September 15, 2007, 6:34 pm
  • Ok, Trisk, understood, but quick question for you and any other YFs here…
    Which play was dirtier?
    Hinske/Posada at the plate today?
    or…
    Arod/Dustin at second earlier this year?

    LocklandSF September 15, 2007, 6:35 pm
  • Wow, Edwar Ramirez’s photo on GameDay is terrifying. (I’d link if I could figure out how.)

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 6:35 pm
  • “yeah d-1, arod does some dick-ish things, and going after pedroia was one of them…if you can find where i said differently, i’m all ears…”
    Fair enough. I dont’ remember what you said on the subject, just that the lines seemed to be drawn based on team allegiance. If I’m wrong so be it.
    Hitting Giambi was just stupid. Beckett’s at 108 pitches now; if he doesn’t throw at Jason, there’s a decent chance he comes back out for the eighth inning. Instead, the bullpen gets some extra work. Real aggravating…
    Fair enough, Trisk, I probably missed it. I didn’t see the “extra,” but also wasn’t really looking for it until after the replays were over and we started arguing.
    What was Tek doing? Busted hit and run, maybe?

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:35 pm
  • 8 LOB for Tek now. Ugh.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 6:37 pm
  • the difference with plays at second vs. at home is that the fielder turning the double play is usually a moving target and harder to bowl over, while the catcher is stationary…contact is supposed to be ok at second base as long as the runner can reasonably reach out and touch the bag…but i don’t think forearms or elbows are ever appropriate…like i said, i thought guys usually lead with the shoulder, but whatever works i guess…meantime hinske shows some class and asks posada if he’s ok…apparently

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:37 pm
  • I don’t think either was excessively dirty Lockland and you know I am pretty much the most unbiased Yankee fan around. I just think both players did what they had to do to get their respective jobs done. I would say both were aggressive.

    John - YF (Trisk) September 15, 2007, 6:38 pm
  • “…the lines seemed to be drawn based on team allegiance. If I’m wrong so be it….”
    no d-1, you’re not wrong…and that was my point, basing opinions on team allegiance is having a bias…that’s all i was trying to say…being objective is what i just did: being annoyed with both arod [a yankee] and hinske [a sox] for what i considered to be bogus plays…like i said, i don’t want any hard feelings just because we rarely [never?] agree ;)

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:40 pm
  • “Just wanted to log on to say that Hinske just made me smile by smashing into Posada
    I won’t go that far, but seeing how the Yanks have obviously been aiming for Youk all year, if Wang is not suspended I will be disappointed in the system.
    The play at the play was good baseball. You block it, you suffer the consequences. Kudos to Posada for not dropping the ball.

    BostonRAW September 15, 2007, 6:44 pm
  • “if Wang is not suspended I will be disappointed in the system.”
    BostonRAW, just go away man, you’re an idiot.

    LocklandSF September 15, 2007, 6:46 pm
  • wang was pretty wild the whole game clownboy…should beckett be suspended too?…figured you’d be back with the sox up by 5…where were you during the 8th inning last night?…

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:46 pm
  • I have to say, I am encouraged at the amount of offense that we have been producing without Manny in the lineup.
    And now we have another 5 run lead in the 7th. That always works out well.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 6:47 pm
  • Ditto

    BostonRAW September 15, 2007, 6:47 pm
  • C’mon, no name-calling…
    If Wang gets suspended so does Beckett. And neither of them deserve it, in my opinion.
    Brian Bruney is awful. That is all.

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:48 pm
  • question for my sf friends: should i give up on this game like i did last night? ;)

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:50 pm
  • Wang suspended?
    Youkilis gets hit because he dives in. Just like Jeter. That pitch was in, but it barely missed where it was supposed to be.
    Also, you don’t put the guy on who hits before Ortiz. You hit Ortiz if you want to hit someone. Not the guy who hits before Ortiz.

    AW YF September 15, 2007, 6:50 pm
  • They have been aiming at the dude all year long. This time they succeeded. Something should be done about that.

    BostonRAW September 15, 2007, 6:51 pm
  • ok, i’m out…

    dc September 15, 2007, 6:52 pm
  • “Youkilis gets hit because he dives in. Just like Jeter. That pitch was in, but it barely missed where it was supposed to be.”
    Agree completely. Youk’s whole approach and to some extent his swing reminds me of Jeter. Including his tendency to get hit.

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:54 pm
  • My god Jacoby is good.

    LocklandSF September 15, 2007, 6:54 pm
  • Ellsbury is unbelievable. C L U T C H

    BostonRAW September 15, 2007, 6:55 pm
  • whats happening yahoo seems to have froze with 2 on and 1 out

    TJ September 15, 2007, 6:55 pm
  • It would be ridiculous to suspend Wang; pretty clear from the situation that he wouldn’t hit him intentionally there.
    Jacoby is just unbelievable.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 6:55 pm
  • Ellsbury again! Hard-hit grounder up the middle to plate two more. 8-1.

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:55 pm
  • Ouch. Posada’s having a rough night; ball four to Ortiz hits the dirt in front of the plate and bounces into his facemask.

    Josh SF (D1) September 15, 2007, 6:58 pm
  • What is the point of these further pitching changes? Jesus Christ, Torre.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 6:59 pm
  • Eeyow – Lowell dribbled spit all over his chin. Then walks to force in a run.

    AM-SF September 15, 2007, 7:03 pm
  • Ouch!

    BostonRAW September 15, 2007, 7:04 pm
  • I like Timlin here. Would have last night too, and, no, not in hindsight either. His experience should always be good enough to get 3 outs before giving up 5 runs.

    BostonRAW September 15, 2007, 7:11 pm
  • So why’d this place suddenly die? Got boring or something?
    I’m just happy we’re past the 8th inning – it seemed to last forever.

    AM-SF September 15, 2007, 7:24 pm
  • Wow, total white flag from the Yankees, did not see that coming.
    Joba warming?

    LocklandSF September 15, 2007, 7:25 pm
  • Seems like all the YFs have left. Can’t imagine why…

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 7:25 pm
  • Hopefully this game puts to rest any thoughts of Wang being a CY caliber pitcher. As far as I’m concerned you ain’t that good if you can’t succeed in the tougher ballparks, which Beckett certainly has done but Wang has not.
    The talking heads call it a competition between Sabathia, who is no sloutch pitching in Cleveland’s Fenway-isk ballpark, and Beckett. I’m ok with that, but I still have to believe Beckett will win it. The guy is a stud.
    Later, gators!

    BostonRAW September 15, 2007, 7:26 pm
  • Hinske! Did *not* expect that from him!

    AM-SF September 15, 2007, 7:27 pm
  • Hinske justifies his playing time, albeit a bit late in the game and not against Wang. Oh well, piling on is fun.

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 7:28 pm
  • can we retaliate for the mongo chamberlain incident yet?
    i know, i know…we’ll say this one slipped too.

    sf rod September 15, 2007, 7:31 pm
  • Yeah, piling on is fun – a spanking was required after yesterdays debacle!

    AM-SF September 15, 2007, 7:38 pm
  • So the YF’s really did vanish . . . I would have thought they’d stick around hoping (praying?) for a replay of yesterday.

    AM-SF September 15, 2007, 7:39 pm
  • Game over. Nicely done, lads. :)

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 7:39 pm
  • Just what we needed. Nice.
    Magic number: 9

    Devine September 15, 2007, 7:39 pm
  • It’s this thing called dinner. I like to eat food.
    One word about today’s game: ouch.
    AMSF, it’s like 30-70 Yanks/Sox fan ratio over here anyway. I’m pretty sure there’s less than 10 YFs posting regularly here. I’m sure you wouldn’t expect us to always be on this site in shifts.

    doug YF September 15, 2007, 8:13 pm
  • What? Doug, that’s unacceptable… you guys need to make up a schedule and stick to it. ;)

    Jackie (SF) September 15, 2007, 8:23 pm
  • is anybody going to muse about wang’s being lucky to get so many easy fly balls today…hmm…technically a fly ball or popup is an easier play because it doesn’t involve a throw and then catch at first base…hmm…
    Nope:)

    Anonymous September 15, 2007, 8:48 pm
  • clearly me.
    ha.

    Brad September 15, 2007, 8:49 pm
  • Ok. back form Renn Faire. Psyched abotu a desperately needed win. Beckett strengthens his case for the Cy.
    But what I want to talk abotu most.. is Jacoby Ellsbury.
    13-game hit streak. AVG just under .400 (small sample size though). Clutch in EVERY way.
    Want to know his numbers this year thus far?
    20 games played in, with 66 at bats.
    26 hits 26 hits, 14 rbis, 11 runs scored, 5 stolen bases, 4 doubles, a triple and 3 home runs.
    Again with 13-game hit streak. Thsi kid COULD (emphasis on could) be HUGE.

    Dionysus September 15, 2007, 8:53 pm
  • damn you brad….where you been? ;)
    actually, the lack of ground balls, ironically, was his problem today…
    wanger is not beckett [duh], nobody said he was, [dc says while not acknowledging b-raw’s blatant gloating]…having said that wang still has had a fine year…most of the knowledgeable, gracious sox fans have said the same…beckett would have received my cy young vote, if i had one, before today…
    yep, lockland, i “white-flagged” hours ago…the game [one game, by the way] was over…
    well rod, i’d say you already retaliated with hinske’s cheap shot on posada, and beckett’s headhunting, which should have gotten him tossed a la joba…remember joba never actually hit youk…
    “…Youk’s whole approach and to some extent his swing reminds me of Jeter. Including his tendency to get hit….”
    damn, d-1…we agree on something…see, miracles do happen…
    i’m with you dio, ellsbury for roy …kidding, it’s pedroia’s to lose at this point…

    dc September 15, 2007, 9:20 pm
  • Actually I DO have an ellbury concern.. and it regards Rookie of the Year!
    If Jacoby can produc even remotely close to this level next season he’d be a shoe in for ROY… UNLESS (duh duh duuuun)
    He keeps playign so much. You have to START the SEASON with 130 at bats or less in the major leagues to still be considered a Rookie. Ellsbury is now at 66. If he keeps getting the playign time he’s been getting (Manny will be a BIG facotr in that) and/or if post-season at bats count for this (Im not sure), then he will NOT be considered a Rookie next season and NEVER be eligible for Rookie of the Year.
    He’ll be stuck in some sort of bastardized limbo where he doesnt have ENOUGH ABs this year to be “seriously” considered a contender but he’ll have TOO many to be considered for next year.
    How much would that SUCK?

    Dionysus September 15, 2007, 9:29 pm
  • sorry, dc. Somehow, one of my buddies decided today was a good day to get married. I don’t know what the fizzle he was thinking when they booked it for today…when i scheduled mine, one of the first things I did was check the schedule to see where the Sox were…ha.

    Brad September 15, 2007, 10:23 pm
  • What I know for sure after today and yesterday is the Sox have what it takes to play in October. I wasn’t so sure after the yanks swept us.

    pat(SF) September 15, 2007, 10:44 pm
  • if the sox win tomorrow, the season series with NY will be tied at 9 wins a piece. lets just say, by chance, the sox blow 6.5 games by season end and finish tied with the yankees. the tie breaker is decided thusly. with the better intradivisionsal record the sox would win the AL East.
    nothing like backing into a pennant.

    sf rod September 15, 2007, 11:21 pm
  • If the sox blow 6.5 games before the end of the season, they don’t deserve to be there anyhow. But, that’s not going to happen. That Yankee sweep was just as much a function of New York stepping up as it was Boston stepping down. The past two days, and any Yankee v. Red Sox game in general, really defy any real logic anyhow, so I don’t put too much stock in it. When was the last time Papelbon pitched like that last night, on a night the Red Sox thouroughly outplayed the Yankees? Umm, never. When was the last time Wang let so many balls into the air? Again, never. The true testament of each teams ability comes in the games they play with the rest of the league, not each other.
    In fact, I hate the Yankee v. Sox games, even when Boston beats the snot out of them. I think that it takes too much away from both teams, both physically and mentally. New York lost two of three from Tampa after sweeping Boston last time, and Boston wasn’t exactly on fire that week either.
    Yep, it’s nice when they play, but I don’t read too much into it at all, no matter the outcome.

    Brad September 15, 2007, 11:39 pm
  • redsox have treated yankees starters like fluffers at an AVN ceremony. bullpen- saddle up, with the probable clemens-elbow bleeding performance tomorrow- remember elbow pain really hurts!

    Ric September 16, 2007, 4:32 am
  • Re: Ellsbury
    With 13 games left he would have to average 5 AB’s a game to pass the ROY cap of 130 AB’s for next year. That is not going to happen.
    For that matter, something pretty interesting will have to occur for him to be considered next year, as the present RS OF is booked.

    BostonRAW September 16, 2007, 9:56 am
  • What I know for sure after today and yesterday is the Sox have what it takes to play in October
    Gee, ya think? lol

    BostonRAW September 16, 2007, 10:04 am
  • “What I know for sure after today and yesterday is the Sox have what it takes to play in October”
    Right you are, given the stellar performance of your late inning relief on Friday.
    (NOT!)

    Andrews September 16, 2007, 11:23 am
  • “Ric”: The fact that porn references are the only thing you have to say speaks miles.

    doug YF September 16, 2007, 11:28 am
  • “Dear Rem Dawg,Daddy is a Red Sox Fan Mommy is a Yankee Fan” Video
    I found this on YouTube, it’s the fuuniest thing I’ve seem,
    What do you know about it?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc7jO_mrS-Q
    My kids are running around singing it!
    Janice Johnson
    Allentown PA

    Janice Johnson September 16, 2007, 11:34 am
  • “What do you know about it?”
    Mother knows best :)

    Andrews September 16, 2007, 12:00 pm
  • kinda serves the dad right for marrying a yf, he got stuck with three daughters. god works in mischievous ways.

    sf rod September 16, 2007, 5:03 pm
  • Right you are, given the stellar performance of your late inning relief on Friday. (NOT!)
    Tigers may appear closer in rearview mirror than confidence may convey.

    sf rod September 16, 2007, 5:12 pm
  • The Tigers are not likely to catch the Yankees. They have four left against the Twins (probably one against Santana next week), and three against the Indians starting tomorrow. They are down three in the loss column. Meanwhile, the Yankees spend a good deal of time against the Orioles (who are in utter tatters, with Bedard and Guthrie, the major thorns in the side of the Yanks, done for the year) and the Devil Rays (and who knows if Kazmir will be shut down in the last week of the season, for innings purposes). I think it’s highly unlikely the Tigers pull it out.

    SF September 16, 2007, 5:35 pm

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