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  • hate to see them both go, but it’s time.
    on another note – Kazmir starting today. I find that odd.

    dw (sf) October 15, 2008, 10:46 am
  • And Timlin

    LocklandSF October 15, 2008, 10:58 am
  • There is no game today for the sox right?
    I hate they are adding this extra day of rest now for TV scheduling. It really takes away from the format and requirement for a full staff of SPs. The teams shouldnt even have a choice of who they start for game 5, it should be the game 1 starters. I agree that this is a bad choice. Shields should be getting the ball here, the sox are down and allowing a shaky Kazmir to throw could give them life.

    Sam-YF October 15, 2008, 11:00 am
  • Sam – no ALCS game today, get to watch Philly/LA instead. Maybe Madden wants to get Kazmir some confidence, maybe Madden figures with a two game lead he wants to win at home? maybe there is a TV conspiracy to drag it out? :)

    dw (sf) October 15, 2008, 11:12 am
  • Agreed. :-(
    Lets just hope that we get 7 more wins for them as a good sending off gift.

    Jared October 15, 2008, 11:48 am
  • It was perhaps most funny to see “die hard” Red Sox fans leaving early. Of course it’s easy to stick by a team when you’re winning World Series.
    Also, DW, I doubt Madden is coaching the Rays, otherwise we’d see more half back draws. Joe Maddon on the other hand…

    310ToJoba October 15, 2008, 11:55 am
  • There were rumors that James Shields isn’t “feeling good.” The Rays are promoting how good Kazmir’s been against the Sox over the past few years (minus his last two starts against them I guess).

    walein October 15, 2008, 12:43 pm
  • 310 – madden, maddon, you knew who I meant :). would be nice to see some football-like scores for the sox though!
    Walein – not feeling good, or because Cousins is scheduled behind the plate, and Kazmir said some bad stuff about his strike zone? hmmmmm…..

    dw (sf) October 15, 2008, 12:48 pm
  • Re Kaz: with Ortiz and Drew injured/slumping, and Tek being not what he once was (and a switch, anyway), the advantages of tossing a lefty seem to be diminished. The key Sox bats to avoid are now the righty Ped/Bay/Youk trifecta. Althtough Papi will always = Danger.

    YF October 15, 2008, 12:51 pm
  • Although Papi will always = Danger.
    Really? How can you assert this without knowing if he’s playing with a wrist in need of major surgery? I don’t know that he is playing this way, but I don’t see how a blind assertion of “danger!” is anything but a leap of faith based on performances from say, 2004-2007, and not on his current season’s performance or his currently dodgy health.
    It would seem to me that Papi = much less danger than in the past.

    SF October 15, 2008, 12:59 pm
  • It was perhaps most funny to see “die hard” Red Sox fans leaving early. Of course it’s easy to stick by a team when you’re winning World Series”
    There comes a time when it’s best to just let it go. They were not going to advance far with a half-Beckett, and Wake or Byrd holding up the rear. Emotional detachment was warranted.
    But I’m proud of them for a well-played season. Most teams would have buckled (Skanks, for example) during a year when so much went wrong, but this group did not.
    There are great days ahead.

    Dirty Water October 15, 2008, 1:04 pm
  • Oops

    Dirty Water October 15, 2008, 1:05 pm
  • Wakefield is inexpensive. It’s not clear to me that he has to go.

    Josh-SF October 15, 2008, 1:30 pm
  • I’ve got to stand up for the Yanks, here. They didn’t fold, then went down with major injuries to a number of key people.
    Does anyone really believe the Yankees wouldn’t’ve been contending down the stretch if they’d had Wang in the second half? It would’ve been a much closer thing. But with IPK and Phil underperforming and Wang out, the rotation was shaky and old.
    I’m not saying they’d’ve made the playoffs, but they would’ve been in the running.
    Now, it’s hard to feel bad for the Sox. Last year they got really hot going into the playoffs and this year they’re ice cold. I think it’s clear that this year the better teams are winning in both the AL and NLCS.

    Optimist Prime [YF] October 15, 2008, 1:32 pm
  • You’re right, the Yanks didn’t fold, in fact they played pretty good ball at the end of the year. They were definately a flawed team, however.
    It isn’t clear Wake has to go – check out the recent post on Fan Graphs about him. Should he pitch in the post season though? nope.
    Perception and reputation still go a long way – that’s why Papi is considered dangerous, but since he hasn’t hit a HR in like 60 post season at bats, that’s all it is now – reputation (how many players get a great contract on what they did, not what they are projected to do?)
    how does one turn off italics?

    dw (sf) October 15, 2008, 1:43 pm
  • There are tickets to Game 5 on CraigsList for below face value.
    Wow.

    LocklandSF October 15, 2008, 2:23 pm
  • damn. i wanted italics too.
    something to remind the faithless…YFSF October 2007
    another thread on the same page made me giggle….
    “Brian Cashman said, with the backing of ownership, that the Yankees would not pursue Alex Rodriguez as a free agent if he opts out of his contract. Cashman has been saying that for eight months. But now it’s with the support of the Steinbrenner family.

    sf rod October 15, 2008, 2:34 pm
  • Fixed.
    I think Wakefield should stay. He’s on a great contract and had a great season. He’s just not the type of pitcher you want in the postseason — and I mean that from a stuff/weather perspective, not a clutch perspective.

    Paul SF October 15, 2008, 2:52 pm
  • I don’t realistically expect to win the series, but I’d like the Sox to at least gain back some respect by winning tomorrow. (And not playing on the same night as a presidential debate is just fine with me.)

    Ron Newman October 15, 2008, 3:00 pm
  • i wasn’t so surprised to see “die-hard” sox fans leaving…they were behind by what could be easily be considered an insurmountable lead, given the fact that their bullpen was not slowing down the rays, and their hitting had not come to life, with a couple of exceptions…i’ve done the same thing at yankee games [i’ve only attended regular season games] in order to beat the traffic…what i WAS surprised about was the booing of their heroes by sox fans, and not a peep about it here [unless i missed those comments]…i thought only yankee fans booed their underachievers to the point of breaking their spirit and hurting their feelings…

    dc October 15, 2008, 9:28 pm

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