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Major sufferings around these parts lately, and we’re not talking about angst over where Johnny Damon is going to sign. Rather, it appears that for about 20 hours Typepad ate most all of their clients’ postings, and resorted to airing five-day-old versions of their hosted sites, without any ability for readers to comment.  We were unable to alert everyone to this problem due to the lack of an interface, but all appears well now, so begin firing away again. 

There have also been some internal problems. YF wanted to let everyone know that his IBook has been made subject to extraordinary rendition by the Bush Administration, and is currently on a black plane somewhere to have it’s guts ripped out, the secrets of a technical flatline revealed.  He’ll try to post something wonderful about the indisputable Cashmanian genius that was the Ron Villone pickup via his Commodore 64, but in the meantime the site is mostly yours. 

As for me? Well, the site wouldn’t be the site without a Copernican A-Rod discussion, so I’ll start the chatter by pointing out that once again, he takes the oh-so unlikeable path and makes it all about his egomaniacal, insecure, windbaggish, and openly confessional and conflicted self instead of just keeping it simple and saying "can’t do it, too tough to choose".  Let’s get back at it.

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  • The Villone trade is a solid one.
    A-Rod could save a kid from getting hit by a car on Newbury street and you’d still attack him. Remember Curt Schilling is so much more the insufferable windbag. I wish YF catalogued his flaws as religiously as you record A-Rod’s. Sometimes this site just doesn’t seem fair and balanced (I doubt very much that Curt is a frequent reader).
    Good to have you guys back.

    Nick December 17, 2005, 9:34 am
  • Nick, I agree with you about Schilling. Where does that leave things?

    SF December 17, 2005, 9:36 am
  • If that’s true, why not more posts about the silly things Curt says weekly on EEI?
    By the way, for the most part I agree with you about A-Rod although I think this last complaint is a bit reaching. I know others are hot and bothered about his announcement, but I don’t know quite why.

    Nick December 17, 2005, 9:43 am
  • Really, who would A-Rod be “dishonoring”? He’s an American citizen of Dominican heritage. He makes that clear. Seems to me that he should be playing for the US. However, if he’s conflicted then that’s his right, and if he wants to bag out then so be it. But the hemming and hawing, the “I feel this” and the “I can’t do that” (I, I, I) is painful and just so damn predictable. Seriously, if there was one guy who you could have predicted would issue a torturedly self-centered statement about why he isn’t playing in an exhibition game it would have been A-Rod. And that’s why I post about it, and not about Schilling’s pompous appearances on daily radio shows. They don’t deserve it, he doesn’t issue press releases.
    (Also, he’s on the Sox, so I leave it, for the most part, to YF.)

    SF December 17, 2005, 9:56 am
  • Nick and SF agreeing? Typepad must be broken again…

    mattymatty December 17, 2005, 10:40 am
  • Not to go all Psych 101, but it seems to me that this is just yet another intallment of the “My Name is ARod, Please Like Me” Show. Or maybe the “Please Don’t Let Me Go 2-15 with 0 RBI on the World Stage This Time” Show. Not too hard to read between the PR lines and see that ARod is deathly afraid of ‘playing like a dog’ again and having either US fans or Domincan fans (both?) boo him or rag on him or firmly scowl and shake their heads in his direction. Not that it matters to the teams that much. The DR roster is already stacked like Pam, and the US team will do just fine without him. But God, this doesn’t bode well for next year in the playoffs (presuming the Bombers get there) if ARod is already begging off a potentially pressurized baseball situation for fear of another big suckfest. Perhaps it’s all for the better, though. It’ll give him another month to work with his shrink and re-read “The Mental Game of Baseball” and maybe learn some transcendental meditiation techniques to help him control his inner ARod once and for all. Let’s hope. B/c the outer ARod is still the best all-around player in the game.

    Spidey December 17, 2005, 10:59 am
  • Is Jason Varitek going to “lead” the US team? I’ve heard he’s text-messaged all the american players and watched tons of footage of the guys on other countries’ teams.

    walein December 17, 2005, 2:08 pm
  • A-Rod’s probably no more self-centered than 85% of the league (how about that for a non-scientific study). The big difference is that in 10 years everyone knows that he may be one of a handlful of players that are brought up in discussions of “the greatest players of all time.” So, the magnifying glass is larger for A-Rod (a fact that Johnny Damon now acknowledges…for the right price).
    But if you look back, alot of the greats have tough relationships because they’re just great baseball players and not great personalities.
    Bonds is abrasive (as was Ted Williams). Stan “The Man” Musial still has great PR and very few people remember the guy for how great he was–better than Williams in the post-season (requisite Sox dig).
    I’m not the hugest fan of A-Rod when it comes to hearing him talk but then again, there are very few guys in pro sports that don’t give away how self-absorbed they are if you hear them talk too long.

    walein December 17, 2005, 2:21 pm
  • “there are very few guys in pro sports that don’t give away how self-absorbed they are if you hear them talk too long.”
    exactly

    Nick December 17, 2005, 2:32 pm
  • Very true, Walein. But A-Rod seems to have a very special gift for proactively publicizing how self-absorbed he is, which makes him special fodder for this site. Add the pinstripes and you’ve got gold. Gold.

    SF December 17, 2005, 4:58 pm
  • I guess I’m jsut wishing we’d get a few more schilling moments on the site. I feel he’s alot easier to dislike than ARod…and with those white and iodine soaked “red socks”…it’s platinum. Platinum!

    walein December 17, 2005, 8:06 pm
  • Talk to YF. I’m no cannibal.
    (though my views on Schilling as a person seem in line with most of our YF readership)

    SF December 17, 2005, 8:24 pm
  • SF..what did you REALLY do to YF’s iBook? Below the belt SF…below the belt.

    walein December 17, 2005, 8:40 pm
  • Well, no more Nomar talk. One-year deal with the Dodgers. Who now seem to have three starting SSs—Izturis/Furcal/Nomah. Strange GMing. Plus, they look like the RSN-West with Nomar, Mueller, DLowe, and even Grady at the helm! Funny how things work out.

    Spidey December 18, 2005, 10:43 am
  • Yeah, I knew that there would be no way he signs in NY until he, like everyone else, has one good year under the belt and can take advantage of them.
    Nick – of course it’s easier to not like Schilling. He’s done nearly everything that he said he was going to do. He came to Boston, was dominant, pitched through pain and injury, and won a WS.

    Brad-SF December 18, 2005, 1:44 pm
  • Yeah, I knew that there would be no way he signs in NY until he, like everyone else, has one good year under the belt and can take advantage of them.
    Nick – of course it’s easier to not like Schilling. He’s done nearly everything that he said he was going to do. He came to Boston, was dominant, pitched through pain and injury, and won a WS. It’s always easier to NOT like someone who actually gets done what others, like A-Rod just talk about.
    Now that being said, I’m not a fan of some of the things Schilling believes in or talks about on the regular with EEI, but I happen to think it’s a good thing to have that type of decisive, albeit right-wing leader on a team. The guy says what he wans to say, not what he thinks others want him to say to avoid conflict with the public. He knows, much like the rest of the country, half of the people are not going to like him. Though it’s weird; everything and everyone in Boston gives Curt the pass for the press stuff becasue of what he can do on the hill, but for some reason, harldy anyone gives A-Rod the pass for what he can do at the plate. I don’t get it either. Maybe it’s because we can all see through the fakeness.

    Brad-SF December 18, 2005, 1:51 pm
  • sorry for the double post

    Brad-SF December 18, 2005, 1:52 pm
  • A-Rod won the MVP, putting up the best numbers from a 3rd baseman in team history. I’d say he’s performed just about right for for the Bombers. Without him, the Yanks don’t make the play-offs.
    It’s a team game, so I’d qualify Schilling’s contribution winning the world series as just that: a contribution. You take a lot away from Manny, Big Papi, Pedro, Mueller, et al, when you say it was HE who won the world series.
    Also, this whole idea that Curt doesn’t care what he says, that he just shoots from the hip is utterly false. He’s so concerned about the way he’s perceived that he actively seeks out microphones. He needs to control his public image so much that there’s not a day that goes by when he doesn’t offer the world his opinion on this and that.

    Nick December 18, 2005, 3:02 pm
  • Yeah but my point is this: They are HIS opinions – not the opinions he THINKS everyone wants to hear.

    Brad-SF December 18, 2005, 6:47 pm
  • I think Brad hits on something here. And Spidey (a YF, to boot) also said it earlier. It’s the whole Sally Field “you really like me” thing. A-Rod seems as if he really needs to be liked. Ironically, this constantly revealed desire makes him, as a personality, quite unlikeable. On the other hand, Curt couldn’t give a shit about being loved, he just wants to be seen. This, unironically, contributes to people not liking him which, quite smartly, he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about.

    SF December 18, 2005, 7:03 pm
  • I think you have blinders on regarding Schilling, who is, in my view, as manipulative and as needy of other people’s respect as any athlete out there today. He’s about as vain as they get. And vanity springs from a desire to be liked.
    I think that Schilling is intelligent in that he uses the media quite well for his purposes. Much like a politician, he’s identified his consitituency (the meat and potato conservative listenership of Dennis and Callahan and most other shows on EEI) and projects an image of no-nonsense candid man of the people. His manipulative ways are buttressed by a mostly white semi conservative sports media for whom Schilling fulfills some idealized mythic role. What does he say that actually would alienate your typical EEI listener and beat reporter? In other words, what does he say that does not aggrandize him in the minds of the fans and reporter from whom he curries favor?

    Nick December 18, 2005, 7:34 pm
  • You make some good points, Nick. Except that almost everyone I know who roots for the Red Sox (and this includes righties and lefties, politically speaking) don’t think much of Schilling as a person. He comes off as a camera-hogging windbag to my friends and family members of all political ilks. So while your assertion that he is trying to endear himself to a certain demographic may be reasonable, it doesn’t seem to be working. And he truly doesn’t seem to care. So either he doesn’t care, or he does and does a superb job hiding it. The thing that’s weird about Schilling is that when he sticks to baseball (and to be honest, he mostly sticks to baseball) he is quite refreshingly honest, and usually on the money. He’s just insufferable and that cuts against his credibility and how much we can tolerate listening.
    A-Rod, on the other hand, issues press releases and makes public statements which usually articulate nothing pertinent about his chosen profession. They tend to only shed light on his own narcissism and insecurity. That’s why it’s such good material.

    SF December 18, 2005, 7:44 pm
  • I guess while I lived in Boston (the fall of 2004 by the way-imagine that for a Yankee fan!) I got a totally different impression about Schilling’s stature as a person/player among the “typical” NEw England sports fan. I guess I listened to too much EEI.

    Nick December 18, 2005, 7:57 pm
  • EEI sucks. The worst.

    SF December 18, 2005, 9:10 pm
  • Shifting gears, reports are out that the Mariners are going to sign Jarrod Washburn to a 4 year deal worth somewhere around 35-40 MILLION. No joke. What the f*ck is the Mariners’ front office smoking? Jarrod better be getting his agent a really nice Christmas gift.

    SF December 18, 2005, 9:24 pm
  • Nomar talked the most with the Dodgers, the Astros, the Indians and the Yanks. In the end, the Yankees did not pursue him seriously: after his agent said he would sign in the next two days, the Yanks had no contact with him. He was not a great fit, and Miguel Cairo will be better: while he might be a less super super-sub, he’ll spend a lot less time on the dl.
    Meanwhile, the Rocket has said if he comes back, he’ll be interested in Houston, Texas, New York and Boston.

    john yf December 18, 2005, 10:02 pm
  • I want Washburn’s agent…I could use the leverage.
    To throw in a few cents on Shilling. All you need to know is that the guy wore white (instead of the usual red) socks over his injury and then soaked the sock in iodine to appear like blood.
    Now, I’m not saying that it I dissaprove of the theatrical element he brought to the series, but it does speak to C Shilling’s intentions with the audience.
    Whether or not Shilling has thicker skin than ARod is unimportant. The sky-rocket-high-ratings team on FOX’s NFL Sunday is filled with the thinnest skinned jocks on the planet and people seem to respond to them.
    It’s really a mix of the way the media handles Shilling (per Nick’s comment above) and the fact that Shilling has won WS(s). The real question is WHEN ARod and the Yankees finish in first place again over the Sox, who may not even make the wildcard this season, and then when the Yanks go on to win the World Series, will the topic of ARod’s narccisitic diplomacy still be an issue? Yes.
    When Curt Shilling is giving up long balls like Javier Vasquez playing in zero gravity, and then going on radio and tv to talk about how Pete Rose murals should be put up in all National League parks (just something I’d imagine Shilling would say, not based on any particular thing he’s said), will we be writing about it the same way as Rodriguez’ flaws?
    No.
    I put forth the real reason (besides an obvious racial component) is that Curt Shilling really doesn’t have much of a chance of going down in history as anything more than an very good pitcher for a few teams while ARod has the very real chance of going down in history as one of the greatest players ever to play the game.

    walein December 19, 2005, 12:57 pm
  • besides an obvious racial component
    Usually I wouldn’t justify a comment like this by responding, but I feel that in this case it’s totally misguided. The noise sent A-Rod’s way has nothing do with race – it has to do with his near limitless narcissism and insecurity. I have never even sensed even the most subtle hint of racism in regards to this. Schilling is hardly given a free pass, so I think we can chuck your intimations out the window; for the most part we all agree (and as I stated earlier, most of my SF friends feel the same way), that Curt is a pompous windbag, no matter his ethinicity.
    As for this microscopic attention having to do with a player’s individual greatness, I suppose there’s some accuracy in that. A-Rod wouldn’t get such crap at a site such as this if he had the skills of, say Tony Wom- er, hold that thought.
    Regardless, A-Rod is, as you state, one of the greatest players to ever play the game, without almost any question. But that does not and should not immunize him against criticism for the worst of his character traits. And that applies to plenty of other star players, guys like Clemens, or Schilling, or Bonds, or…we could go on and on, right?

    SF December 19, 2005, 2:40 pm
  • I remember a much greater pitcher on the red sox who might say a few things from time to time to rattle the mind, he wasn’t white, and his last name rhymed with martinez. He got alot more slack, was a much better pitcher and also won a world-series.
    I don’t think Curt Shilling can be put in the same legue as Roger Clemens, Alex Rodgriguez or Barry Bonds (unless that league is “stupid things said infront of cameras and microphones”). The fact that he gets away with saying the stupid shit he does, the fact that it’s not the subject of myriad articles in local and national papers is the result of the two reasons I stated above….one is that he is a lesser player than A Rod; but the second does indeed have a racial component. Sure, as americans we love arrogant jerks, who tell it like it is and are frighteningly conservative (A Rod is a big republican contributor and and even bigger contributer to W. Bush’s many campaigns) etc…but there are different ways that these “jerks” are perceived, and that perception is manufactured (albeit with help from the player to some degree).
    Shilling tells it like it is….and Carl Everett talks crazy shit about creationism…and yet, Curt Shilling believes the same thing and talks very openly about his world-view.
    I’m not saying that you don’t realize he’s a windbag or whatever, I just don’t think that he’s any better, and in many ways I believe that Curt Shilling is a much more manipulative personality than A Rod.
    The need to be liked strikes me as alot more endearing than simply wanting people to fuck off if they don’t agree with you.
    I understand your view of Rodriguez, shit he’s a Yankee and Shilling is a Iodine soaked sock…but to deny that the generation of their media perceptions doesn’t have serious racial dimensions is insane.
    The fact that ARod has to act like an idiot and try not to offend America or the DR (and do it so awkwardly that everybody thinks he’s an asshole) is the perfect example of the problem.
    Maybe he doesn’t want to play at all (the most likely reason)…but you don’t say that…and if he did say that–Shilling style™–he would be treated the same as Ken Griffey Jr. saying “I don’t want to hit in the HR contest.” As a result you get his different ways of trying to court the media…Curt Shilling has None of those problems…he’s allowed to say alot of wack shit and so he knows he can say it. Rodriguez does not have that luxury…and is terrible at trying to be diplomatic about it.

    walein December 19, 2005, 5:04 pm
  • We can talk all we want about the reasons but the following two things are absolute and there’s nothing any of us can do about them:
    People may not like what Curt has to say, but he gets a pass for simply “running his mouth” or “camera hogging”. He said he was going to come to Boston and win a WS and by all accounts, he did. He gets a JFK style pass in New England and gets to say what he feels – all the damn time.
    People don’t like A-Rod no matter what he does becuase he’s comes off as a insecure, manipulative, telepromptered, I’m-always-innocent, try to please everyone by not doing what I believe ballplayer. He said he was coming to NY to win a WS, the proceeded to be as good as your average rookie league player in the playoffs.
    I know it’s wrong, but that’s how it is, and I’m sure if A-Rod was traded tomorrow for half his player, there’s not too many YF’s that would be upset about it. John would suggest that it’s Cashman working the magic to lower the payroll and get better defensivelym and Walein would argue that it’s been A-Rod’s fault that the Yanks have not won anything in the past howervermany years.
    By the way – do any of you really know that Curt Schilling soaked the sock with Iodine before the pitch for any other reason than he just had it operated on? Are you stooping to the level that you suggest that he really wasn’t seriously hurt? From Walein I expect it, simply because he played the race card, but let’s not do injustice to what he did on the field that night out of spite.

    Brad-SF December 19, 2005, 5:50 pm
  • defensivelym
    Yeah, you know what I meant.

    Brad-SF December 19, 2005, 5:52 pm
  • I wouldn’t argue that it was A Rod’s fault. To think that the Yankees are a better team without Alex Rodriguez is to be a silly silly person.
    If Curt Shilling didn’t soak his sock with Iodine that would mean he soaked it with fake blood or red dye…which I don’t think you want to try wrapping your brain around.
    The fact is, Shilling wears red sox usually….his choice, post-op, was to have a very theatrical looking ankle. It served the purpose of getting shown on national televisioin, possibly had some sort of psychological effect on either of the teams, and was completely gratuitous.
    If a doctor puts a liter of iodine on a small incision he covers that with a bandage…because the last thing you want rubbing against newly sown skin is a fucking sock! The ludicrocity of it all (you know what I mean) is just the idea that any doctor with half a certificate (let alone a doctor that was totally shafted by his organization in their effort to evade the possiblity of admiting their complicity in jeopardizing Shilling’s career) would send a patient out on the field like that is…filled with ridiculosity (uh huh…you know it).
    But to be inflammatory:
    I posture that the real reason that Shilling opted for the theatrical approach was because it gave him an out if he had indeed stunk it up. That’s right, I said it!
    Now, he pitched great, the Yanks lost…yada yada yada…but there’s your Player with Integrity.

    walein December 19, 2005, 6:37 pm
  • God, Walein. You make some pretty decent points, but tear a good chunk of your credibility down with (first)the race issue and (second)the Schilling BS. I think it’s pretty clear that, blood or not, Schilling basically risked ending what he had left of his career by pitching those games. In fact, he very well may have done just that, if he can’t recover to how he pitched in 2004. Who cares if there was “blood” on the sock – he’s revered for the effort in that game and in the World Series, not for any visible physical residue of that effort.
    As for the race thing, it’s certainly true that stereotyping can play into misperceptions of character. It’s definitely true that racism plays a terrible role as a subtextual characteristic of many generic criticisms of professional athletes, politicians, artists, etc. But with A-Rod you’ve chosen a terrible place to play the race card; the reason he’s picked on, particularly by Red Sox fans, has everything to do with the circumstances of how he came to work for his current employer, his post-season performances (from the slap on down), his painfully earnest press releases explaining his tortured positions on things and his occasional life-saving abilities, his self-promoting comments about how hard he works, and nothing to do with race. He’s a mind-bogglingly great player who offers us mind-bogglingly great material.

    SF December 19, 2005, 7:34 pm
  • “But I didn’t — I honest to God did not think I was going to take the ball today because I didn’t think I could. And then everything starts happening. You start looking around at your teammates and understanding what you’ve been through over the last eight months, what it means to me. And I did what I did last time: I went to the Lord for help, because I knew, again, I wasn’t going to be able to do this myself. “–Curt Schilling
    I’m guessing that’s what you were talking about.
    Maybe it was this?
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/schilling1.html
    He ain’t covering his mouth cause he’s “Telling it like it is!” He’s covering his mouth because he’s sauvy enough to realize he’s gotta keep that terrible terrible hatred he has for people hidden.
    Curt Schilling is one of the most calculating celebrities out there. He’s used the media his entire career and has said as much.
    He’s very smart about it and his “I say what I feel” stuff is crap. As a result I am very wary about what actually happened in that dressing room.
    Was it God? Was it the “sketchy” quickie surgery? Is his fall off this year do to that or the fact that he’s old?
    If he indeed had this surgery that could end his career does that make him heroic? Or crazy? I mean, isn’t that why you do steroids? To play the games, to hopefully get the glory (the money), even if it means shady practices with your physical health and ethical medical issues on the side of the doctor prescribing or performing?

    walein December 19, 2005, 9:20 pm
  • Wow. This is getting pretty intense. I feel like this a Columbo epidode, and Peter Falk has just said, “one more thing… or “funny thing, my wife bought a coat just like that, and the zipper was on the left side like yours.” to the criminal, and all this shit is about to become clear. Anyone else a fan of that show?
    good stuff, walein. Good stuff, SF.

    Nick December 19, 2005, 10:08 pm
  • “Good stuff, Walein”?! Are you serious, Nick? Walein’s accusing Schilling of being a serial fraud w/r/t to his playoff performance last year. That’s not “good stuff”, it’s complete crap. Whether you like Curt or not, it’s clear from this last year’s performance (along with a Doctor’s confirmation during the ’04 playoffs) that Schilling was badly hurt. That he needed an odd surgical procedure just to take the mound. And that he risked his career for those games.
    Like him or not (and I don’t like him terribly much as a person), it’s complete garbage to claim that it was all an act. Schilling’s verbal mumbo jumbo is something like Walein says: self-serving idiocy. But the injury? Calling it fakery destroys any credibility Walein has – it’s like the Sox fans (too many of them) who say that Jeter could have stopped himself before he ran into the stands last year, and nearly ripped his face off just for the “drama”, to look the hero. It’s utter bullshit.

    SF December 19, 2005, 10:57 pm
  • Cash is not going to trade A-Rod and I’m not going to defend it unless they get back Santana and K-Rod somehow.
    What Sox fans don’t see, or more likely don’t want to see, is that A-Rod was a lot more quiet and secure this year, and that is why his teammates responded so much better to him BEFORE he had his great year.

    john massengale December 19, 2005, 11:08 pm
  • A-Rod is a self-absorbed, narcissist and that separates him from how many Sox players (and Yanks for that matter, minus Matsui, Jetes, and Bernie)? If your answer is “very few,” you are quite right. In today’s game, narcisism and arrogance is something we expect from nearly ALL of our famous superstars. Even from the perspective of most Yank fans, its common knowledge that A-Rod is a pompous ass. Why is this a big deal?
    Because both sides of the rivalry need whipping boys. Players you can instantly bash in an arguement with the enemy because they possess no likable quality aside from their numbers on the diamond. A-Rod is perfect for the reasons Sox Fan mentioned and Schilling is ace material for the reasons mentioned by walein. Can we let this issue go and move on?
    I thought walein made a decent point about white athletes having an easier time squeezing their way out of controversy for making ignorant or crazy remarks. Right or wrong, there is no question black or latin public figures have a smaller margin-of-error when it comes to saying something and looking crazy than whites. However, it is definately a stretch to apply this to A-Rod when we are really talking about issues like arrogance and narcisism.
    One more thing, is it a coincidence both whipping boys of the rivaly are right-wing hacks? I don’t know how many Yanks or Sox players are Democrats, but its something I’ve always been curious about. I know it shouldn’t matter, its just interesting to find out which ones are on your team and which ones spend their time in the clubhouse drinking the conservative moron Kool-Aid

    Zach-YF December 19, 2005, 11:21 pm
  • Or, he played better, so you’re willing to overlook the numerous narcissistic things he did and said that showered attention on him.
    Also, John, it’s not just “Sox fans” who think this. Nick has admitted it. Spidey’s admitted it. Both huuuuge Yankees fans. They’re not alone. This isn’t just a Sox vs. Yanks thing – I can’t stand Schilling’s persona, for that matter, and I’m a Sox fan – I just don’t have blinders on like some in these parts. As stated earlier in the comments, it’s more likely a professional athlete thing. A-Rod is front and center, and he deserves to be, for lots of reasons, the majority of which are of his own doing.

    SF December 19, 2005, 11:22 pm
  • how many Yanks or Sox players are Democrats
    I’ll set the over/under on players at 2, total, for both teams, not including management. But I contemplated putting it at 1. If you include the Mets you might be able to up the number, what with the acquisition of Delgado.
    The Sox’ top management is made up of 3 liberals (Henry, Werner, Lucchino), 4 if you think Theo is still pulling the strings. They’re probably an anomaly amongst ownerships around the league. We all know the Yankees’ Owner’s ignominious fundraising history…

    SF December 19, 2005, 11:27 pm
  • A-Rod has mellowed.

    john yf December 20, 2005, 9:17 am
  • Mike Lowell will get almost 60% more money than Mueller next year. Mueller’s a better player.

    john yf December 20, 2005, 9:27 am
  • Nice analysis in a vacuum, John. What’s your point? Or is it just this simple observation, which I am not sure means much of anything without any context.

    SF December 20, 2005, 9:47 am
  • Mussina contributed to a Democrat’s senatorial run a few years back in PA. Not sure if that makes him one, but it comes close.

    Nick December 20, 2005, 11:43 am
  • Schilling pushes old liberal grandmothers down assisted living staircases!

    walein December 20, 2005, 1:00 pm
  • And A-Rod gives them mouth to mouth, then issues a press release about how he tried desperately to save them but failed in the clutch.

    SF December 20, 2005, 2:21 pm
  • vacuum
    Gee, I thought this was a place for discussing Yankees and Red Sox.
    If I were a Sox fan, I would not be happy about the dismantling of the team. It’s been a while since you finished behind two teams named after small birds.

    john yf December 20, 2005, 2:29 pm
  • but luckily Schilling is there to put the hand of God to them and resurrect them.

    walein December 20, 2005, 2:30 pm
  • That’s the problem – anyone who is a grandmother is nowhere near liberal – that’s how we end up in these messes. Grandmothers and Grandfathers are the only ones to show up on election day.
    Just for clarification John, Beckett makes that trade worth every cent. Who cares how much more money Lowell makes than Bill Mueller? For all intensive purposes, they have been the same player for the past five years statistically. Well, minus Lowells gold-glove and all, which seems to get lost in your hatred.

    Brad-SF December 20, 2005, 2:35 pm
  • John is clearly posting out his arse today to get a rise with stupid comments.

    Brad-SF December 20, 2005, 2:37 pm
  • Come June, Lowell will be hitting .238 and Mueller .310 and the Sox will have less roster flexibility because they have a self–imposed salary cap.
    There’s nothing wrong with the salary cap, the point is that Lowell eats into it.
    But at least they’ll have two not-cheap second basemen.

    john yf December 20, 2005, 6:30 pm
  • John, you have no clue.
    (Beckett + Lowell + Youkilis + Mota + Loretta + Marte) – (Mueller + Renteria + Mirabelli) = gross total of five full-time positions filled plus one prime prospect for an added $10M of payroll and future flexibility.
    Can you understand the desirable math on this one? Or is your brain as addled as your posts seem to indicate?

    SF December 20, 2005, 7:39 pm
  • “I mean, isn’t that why you do steroids? To play the games, to hopefully get the glory (the money), even if it means shady practices with your physical health and ethical medical issues on the side of the doctor prescribing or performing?”
    What exactly does this have to do with anything? As far as we know, Schilling has never used steriods, and if you think he has, I want evidence before you say it. Therefore, you can’t use this as comparison, because really, it’s irrelevant.
    Also, if you want to see how a (real) Latin star should act, look at Papi. ARod isn’t even Dominican. He’s from Florida. I realize that it’s his heritage, but if you’re American, then play for America. That’s all I have to say about it.

    Laura December 20, 2005, 7:51 pm
  • I Hate computers!! That wasn’t supposed to all be italics, only the first part, obviously.

    Laura December 20, 2005, 7:52 pm
  • This is sooooooooo not my fault, I swear.

    Laura December 20, 2005, 7:52 pm
  • I’m just saying…what’s the difference in someone using “the cream” which is a topical steroid used to expediate the healing process of an injury and Schilling have a surgery (so unethical that the Red Sox let the man who performed it go while saying he was the greatest trainer they had) which allows him to be able to pitch?
    And in the case of ARod. He was born in NYC, moved back to the Dominican Republic when he was four and then moved back to the US again when he was about 8. He has a duel citizenship. What that means is that he is considered a citizen of both countries.

    walein December 20, 2005, 8:26 pm
  • The difference is extremely simple, Walein. Medical procedures are neither illegal nor against the rules of baseball. The steroids called “the cream” are speculated to have been illegal, against the rules of baseball, the usage of which was for reasons about as far away from medicine as you can get. It’s a massive difference. If you are unable to make the distinction that’s a pretty big problem.

    SF December 20, 2005, 9:35 pm
  • Why does everyone talk about Lowell like he’s the stinky beet that the Sox had to swallow in order to get Beckett? Is he overpaid? If he bats like last year, sure, I guess. But let’s not forget his ’04 numbers that included batting .293, a .365 OBP, and 27 dings. And that was in Pro Player or Dolphin Stadium or whatever it’s called now. Does anyone not think that he’s gonna be peppering the Green Monster with line drives all season? Plus, hello—Gold Glove winner last year. Before ARod showed up, I had always hoped that Cash would go after Lowell for the Yanks, bring him back home. Maybe I’m missing something (injury? off the juice now?), but I get the feeling that Lowell is gonna surprise everyone and make SFs forget Mueller real quick.

    Spidey December 20, 2005, 10:53 pm
  • Word has it that the Yanks snagged Damon: 4/52M.

    Spidey December 20, 2005, 11:12 pm
  • I’m waiting to see how Sox fans spin this one: JD to NY.

    john yf December 20, 2005, 11:25 pm
  • Is Manny the only player left from the 2004 team? And to think, he’s the only one who demanded a trade.

    Nick December 20, 2005, 11:56 pm
  • Nixon and the Captain. Plus, of course, several pitchers (but not enough).
    Brad-SF: You take Youkilis. We’ll take the wins. I’ll bet SF and Brad-SF each $100 right now that the Yanks have more wins in 2006 than the Sox.

    john yf December 21, 2005, 12:27 am

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