The Fix Is In?

Granderson falls down. Rodney chucks one over the first baseman. 3-3 and counting. Um….Say it ain’t so, Tigers.

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  • Unfortunately these Tigers are looking like..well.. the Tigers. Pull yourselves together, ‘troit.

    attackgerbil October 26, 2006, 11:37 pm
  • A lot of people think the extra time off helped the Tigers, I really think it hurt them, relatively young team, not a ton of post-season exp, going in to that series with no momentum, the fact that everyone was picking the Tigers to walk all over them, I think this stuff is what’s killing that team.

    LocklandSF October 27, 2006, 9:19 am
  • …overall, the tigers had a very good season, despite their stumble to the finish line…a much better [regular] season than the cards…they haven’t lost, but if they do, they have nothing to be ashamed of…162 games is a lot of baseball and says a lot more about the strength of a team than a few short series, where it’s more important to be hot than good…just look at how many wild card teams have won recently…

    dc October 27, 2006, 9:48 am
  • Not so subtle dig at the wild card there…
    I’m curious, and this isn’t driected at you DC, but in general for YFs. I hear a lot of YFs grumble about the wild card and I know more than a few don’t consider it a legitimate way to get to the post season.
    I’m curious though, if the Yankees won with the wild card and got in to the WS because of it, would that not count to you all?

    LocklandSF October 27, 2006, 10:16 am
  • For the record, I’m not 100% sold on the wild card my self, regardless of 2004, frankly, my short term goal for the RS, the one thing I want them to do, is win the AL East outright, for me as a fan, not winning the AL East for so long leaves me feeling a little empty and more than a little annoyed.

    LocklandSF October 27, 2006, 10:18 am
  • …i might have expected a sox fan to read more into my wild card observation than what’s there…you guys are so damn sensitive…i could care less if the yankees win as a wc or not…winning the ws is still the ultimate goal…my point was that the tigers should still hold their heads high regardless of the outcome…they had a year that far exceeded the expectations…

    dc October 27, 2006, 11:54 am
  • yfs can consider the Wild Card illegitmate all they want to (and I’m not sure many actually do). It’s part of the rules, just like the DH, and winning a World Series and being a wild card is just as legitmate as entering the playoffs through any other means. I think the 2004 situation in particular erases the illegitimacy claims because the Wild Card team beat the first-place team in its division in the playoffs.
    I know the playoffs favor streaky teams, and the Yankees caught the Tigers at the wrong time and the Cards are catching them at the right time, but it seems like it would really gall me to see the team that shut my team down in four games play like incompetent Little Leaguers against possibly the worst team to enter the postseason.

    Paul SF October 27, 2006, 11:55 am
  • Really, dc, the generalizations about Sox fans, particularly in the last few days, have become quite tiresome.

    Paul SF October 27, 2006, 12:08 pm
  • …that’s what separates sox fans from yank fans…we aren’t hyper-sensitive to some of this stuff, like you guys seem to be…i don’t think i’m feeling galled by the tigers performance, or lack of…in fact, i’ve been {mildly] pulling for the cards…don’t know why, maybe subconsiously i like that someone is giving the tigers a dose of reality…the topping would be if the cards shell k rogers before it’s over…
    …paul, nobody’s trying to diminish the wild card, or the sox victory in ’04…not sure how you read that much into my benign observation about recent wild card success, but i guess i’ll just chalk it up to that sensitivity thing again…i’ll say it again: the tigers deserve a pat on the back for the year they had, which to this point was much better than the cards…obviously if the cards win the ws, that trumps the tigers, but doesn’t diminish what they accomplished so far…

    dc October 27, 2006, 12:12 pm
  • “that’s what separates sox fans from yank fans”
    No. I can’t stand such generalizations (I’ve said this many times, I know). People are people, and one set isn’t more “sensitive” than the other. I don’t believe it for a second.

    Devine October 27, 2006, 1:16 pm
  • Geography — the chance occurence of where you were obrn or where your parents were born — plays far more of a factor in one’s rooting interest than any other (once upon a time, ethnicity did play a part, but not really any more). So Devine is absolutely right. One group of thousands of people is not any more likely to exhibit a particular psychological trait than any other group of thousands of people.
    Yet dc continues to try to classify all sfs as somehow emotionally and intellectually inferior than yfs. Perhaps this reveals more about his psyche and inferiorities than anything else, but I’m no psychologist. Maybe dc is, which is why he feels he can diagnose thousands of Red Sox fans unseen nearly every time he posts.

    Paul SF October 27, 2006, 2:58 pm
  • “Yet dc continues to try to classify all sfs as somehow emotionally and intellectually inferior than yfs.”
    I think dc is refering to some SF’s who post on this site, primarily. Saying a person is sensitive doesn’t necessarily imply emotional and intellectual inferiority. Sorry, Paul, but I think you kind of prove his point with this post.

    Andrews October 27, 2006, 4:39 pm
  • “that’s what separates sox fans from yank fans…we aren’t hyper-sensitive to some of this stuff, like you guys seem to be…”
    That mentions the site absolutely nowhere and is still a tremendously galling statement considering the Yankee “sensitivity” I’ve seen here and plenty of other places. I accept that there must be antagonism between the two sets of people (or it’s no fun), but not that there must be statements like “Yankee fans are arrogant” or “Sox fans are sensitive”. It’s stupid. Some Yankee fans are arrogant and some Sox fans are sensitive, but some Yankee fans are sensitive and some Sox fans are arrogant.

    Devine October 27, 2006, 6:12 pm
  • …go back through the thread…this whole discussion started because you thought i was taking a pot-shot at the wild card concept…i never intended to take a shot at either the concept or your team, who happened to be one of the best teams in ’04, and deserved to be in the playoffs and win the ws…lockland and paul spun it into a discussion about the sox and yanks…the cards who had much less success this year than your ’04 wild card team look like they are getting hot at the right time…all i’ve heard from you guys for the past few months is that the al was far superior to the nl, and the al winner would likely romp in the series [i believed it too]…those 2 things support my point that “it’s more important to be hot than good” at this time of year…and the tone of your posts proves my other point that you guys are sensitive…and very predictably so…

    dc October 27, 2006, 7:26 pm
  • I agree with you, dc. I agree with all your points in terms of baseball and the wild card.
    But your generalization offends me. I might well be sensitive, but this has to do with concepts (about people as a group, particularly) and simplifying them too much, not sensitivity as far as I’m concerned.
    Lockland thought you had dug at us; you say you didn’t. Great, that’s fine, I believe you. It doesn’t change that I don’t like the blanket statement cast upon us.
    But sorry for not saying I agreed with your baseball earlier. Perhaps tempers might not have risen if I’d brought that out at the beginning.

    Devine October 27, 2006, 11:11 pm

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