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Humberto and Phil, coming right at ya. After yesteday’s BP, Jason Giambi compared them to Schilling and Clemens, respectively. “It’s great to hear those comparisons. They feel good, but it really doesn’t mean much,” says Hughes. Sanchez, a Bronx native—we just love that angle—was actually in attendance for Dwight Gooden’s no-no. “We were standing up the whole last inning. We were like, ‘No shot he’s gonna do it. No way, no way.’ And the last out of the game—who was it? Paul Sorrento?—popped up to short.” This is impressive: not just his obvious love of the sport, but the fact that he remembers a no-name like Sorrento ending the game—very impressive; no way I’d have something like that on recall. That type of memory—for batters and situations—is a huge boon for a pitcher, and it looks like he’s got it.

56 comments… add one
  • “Paul Sorrento”! I officially have a new favorite Yankee. He’s like one of us. Awesome.

    Nick-YF February 23, 2007, 11:32 am
  • For the first time in a long time, the Yankees have some great young players who look like they’re not too far away. And pitchers, no less. So refreshing.
    Of course, I haven’t forgotten Wang, Cano, and Melky, but those guys kind of snuck in under the radar.

    Whatever February 23, 2007, 11:37 am
  • Seriously, if you were AT a no-hitter in person, you wouldn’t remember who ended the game? That’s almost unfathomable.
    I was at the only game with two triple plays in baseball history (at Fenway) and I remember who hit them (Jody Reed and Tom Brunansky), and who fielded them (Gaetti to Newman to Hrbek), though I am having a hard time with who was pitching.
    The hype over Yankees youngsters has reached a new level of hyperbole: they can even remember historic and seminal baseball moments from their childhood! There’s no stopping them!

    SF February 23, 2007, 11:39 am
  • Ya, it’s not like they smashed a ball into pieces or anything..

    Lar February 23, 2007, 11:46 am
  • I remember in ’75, some guy hit a game ending home run in the World Series. For the life of me, I can’t remember who. I think it hit the foul pole. Weird last name, Misk, Trisk, Prisk, something like that. Coming up blank.

    SF February 23, 2007, 11:47 am
  • Seriously … almost unfathomable.
    … a new level of hyperbole

    I don’t think the hyperbole is on the Yankee side. :-)
    Is it so hard to accept there might be some very good players coming up?
    BTW, the stories suggest that Sanchez probably isn’t ready yet.

    john February 23, 2007, 11:53 am
  • The hype is so great because it’s something Yankee fans haven’t had in quite some time. I don’t think the hype with Yankee fans is all about Hughes and his ability. For me personally it’s the excitement of having some youth that could possibly infuse this team with some fresh new blood in the not too distant future. As for the media of course they are going to run with comments like he’s comparable to Clemens, it’s their job.

    Triskaidekaphobia February 23, 2007, 11:53 am
  • Memory for baseball players is no small thing. Big Papi can’t remember if he ever met Ichiro before. It might have been Hideki Matsui who talked to before a game once.
    I kid. In seriousness, it’s a cool thing that Sanchez is from the Bronx and was a big Yanks fan. It’s always nice to feel you can connect to a player beyond rooting for the uniform.

    Nick-YF February 23, 2007, 11:55 am
  • Not questioning the hype over their abilities. I love hyped youngsters and the excitement they bring. I have posted about it here at this site with the Sox. It’s one of those great moments, that first appearance by a young prospect in the bigs, full of anticipation. But the idea that Humberto remembers the guy who ended a no-hitter that he actually was so lucky to attend in person is some evidence of the potential of his pitching future? Seriously?

    SF February 23, 2007, 11:57 am
  • These guys are awesome. Probably the single greatest pitchers that I’ve never seen pitch. In fact, I think one of them may end up curing cancer. Maybe a tangible exit strategy from Iraq that everyone’s happy with? Perhaps a Nobel Peace Prize? Does anyone know where I can get a Hughes bobble head for my desk? How about his high school jersey for my collection? Man I LOVE all these predictions! Clemens? Naaah. I say he’s a fusion of Clemens, Schilling, Pedro, Sandy, Mo, and a little dab of Zito’s hook! It’s awesome.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 11:59 am
  • I like YF’s theory. I think the Proustian memory that Humberto obviously displays can only help him. For instance, when Manny comes up, he’ll most definitely remember to intentionally walk him to face J.D. Drew.

    Nick-YF February 23, 2007, 12:01 pm
  • But JD will be on the DL!

    SF February 23, 2007, 12:03 pm
  • It’s always nice to feel you can connect to a player beyond rooting for the uniform.
    You’re right about that, Nick. It’s like rooting for a friend that you don’t know, but know what he’s about and what he did growing up. It is a neat angle.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 12:03 pm
  • Brad, you’re wrong. Paps and Becks and Dice-K and Delcarmen are going to cure cancer and bring about world peace.
    Well, maybe not Delcarmen,
    And maybe not Beckett.

    john February 23, 2007, 12:04 pm
  • Speaking of Beckett, have you ever looked at his AA numbers in comparison with Hughes? It’s a long road, John.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 12:07 pm
  • Speaking of Beckett, have you ever looked at his AA numbers in comparison with Hughes? It’s a long road, John.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 12:08 pm
  • ugh.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 12:08 pm
  • Beckett:
    http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Josh-Beckett.shtml
    Mr. Everything:
    http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/H/philip-hughes.shtml
    Yep. Seems to me that the Red Sox have Hughes, only more seasoned and a better fastball already on staff, no?
    All I’m saying is that it takes a long friggin time to develop into a real ML pitcher. The hype is out of control with Yankee fans, and I understand that they’re happy with what they may have, but why set the bar so damn high for him? Why make him out to be everything that he may not be? Why can’t he just be a good pitcher? Why does he have to be compared to Clemens or Schilling?
    It’s just stupid.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 12:14 pm
  • “it’s not like they smashed a ball into pieces or anything..”
    Late with this, but –
    Odd then, that with “Wily Mo Hobbs” on the roster, your team would spend 70M to make him the 4th outfielder…

    Andrews February 23, 2007, 12:17 pm
  • “In other news, it’s been reported that Hughes routinely sits through entire horror movies without flinching at the loud noises. In high school, one of his friends once jumped out at him from behind a tree, but again, the young hurler was undisturbed.”
    I’m excited because a pitcher needs to have icewater in his veins. This is impressive.
    Heh…

    desturbd1 February 23, 2007, 12:17 pm
  • Does anyone, including Sox fans, think there has been more hype about Sanchez and Hughes than about Dice-K, Beckett, Papelbon, Lester, Delcarmen and Hansen?
    On the other hand, Wang, Cano and Melky all came up pretty quietly.
    Sometimes it seems whatever comment Sox Fans make about the Yanks and Yankee fans is more true about them.
    Example: “Cash will be fired after the season.” Reality: Cash was quietly given more power. Theo was in one of the most bizarre GM negotiations in the history of baseball.
    Example: The hyperbole about Sanchez and Hughes is “a new level” that’s “almost unfathomable.” Reality: When was the last time a picture has been hyped more than Dice-K? Beckett was going to be an automatic ace who would beat the Yanks the way he did in the World Series.

    john February 23, 2007, 12:18 pm
  • “The hype is out of control with Yankee fans.”
    Hmmm read the whole thread, which one of us said anything about him being the next Roger Clemens or solving all the Yankees problems? Is he going to be good, most likely. How good only time will tell. But I don’t think anyone has him penciled into the H.O.F. quite yet.

    Triskaidekaphobia February 23, 2007, 12:18 pm
  • Well I’m glad your memory is so prodigious, SF. As it is, I can’t even recall the last out in either the Wells or Cone perfecto (not that I was in attendance for either). I make no apologies; memory is a fragile thing, and it can play tricks more often than one realizes, as every historian knows.
    And I’m not sure where the SF contingent gets off griping about the Yankee prospect love after the quadrillion Matsuzaka posts we’ve had here. We even had a DiceK category, for goodness sake.
    Just because your top prospect is a no-power cf, don’t blame us.

    Anonymous February 23, 2007, 12:20 pm
  • Odd then, that with “Wily Mo Hobbs” on the roster, your team would spend 70M to make him the 4th outfielder…
    Odd then, that the Yankees would go get Andy Pettitte to fill out that rotation when they are SO MANY GREAT pitchers in the system. I mean, why spend any money when the viable replacements are right there? Maybe, and just maybe, they aren’t ready.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 12:20 pm
  • “The hype is out of control with Yankee fans”
    Yeah, Brad, I agree – it’s insanity to overhype a pitcher who has never throw a pitch in the majors – sox fans would never do anything of the sort…

    Andrews February 23, 2007, 12:20 pm
  • “Maybe, and just maybe, they aren’t ready.”
    They aren’t. Neither will be on the opening day roster.
    You’re kidding, right? Explain how the Pettitte deal isn’t a smart one.

    Andrews February 23, 2007, 12:23 pm
  • Hmmm read the whole thread, which one of us said anything about him being the next Roger Clemens or solving all the Yankees problems?
    I was actually citing the comparison made in the original post by YF, where it clearly states that they’re being compared to Schilling and Clemens. One of which might be the greates pitcher to ever live. See what I’m saying? But, since it was Giambi, maybe I shouldn’t throw the blanket over the crowd.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 12:25 pm
  • Well I’m glad your memory is so prodigious, SF. As it is, I can’t even recall the last out in either the Wells or Cone perfecto (not that I was in attendance for either). I make no apologies; memory is a fragile thing, and it can play tricks more often than one realizes, as every historian knows.
    I don’t remember who Derek Lowe or Nomo ended their no-nos on. But had I BEEN AT THE GAME it’d be a different story. Had I not been at the Twins/Sox game with the two TPs, I wouldn’t remember, I don’t think. This was totally qualified in my post, so I don’t want it misinterpreted and turned into some other discussion.
    As for hype, I am all for it. I love it. I remember Kevin Morton’s first game, and Brian Rose’s first game, and the idea that these guys were coming to save the day, no matter the disappointments that follow. I feel it with Daisuke. You won’t get criticism from me for having an exuberance about these guys. But I quibble with YFs focus on Humberto’s no-no attendance and memory as something important. I think it’s normal.

    SF February 23, 2007, 12:26 pm
  • Comparisons are being made by players, not FANS. That’s my point. I really doubt YF said that Hughes and Sanchez could pan out to be as good as Clemens or Schilling and I know I have never said such a thing. I know I didn’t say it because I don’t think Sanchez remains a starter. I would be willing to bet he turns into a reliever or closer.

    Triskaidekaphobia February 23, 2007, 12:28 pm
  • Explain to me how the Drew deal isnt a good one, Andrews.
    You making the comparison between getting Drew and thinking that WMP has awesome power is exactly the same as me making the comparison between Pettite and the Yankee farm. It’s not an accurate depiction of why the teams did what they did.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 12:29 pm
  • No JD Drew splinter discussions, please!!!! PLEASE!!!!!

    SF February 23, 2007, 12:32 pm
  • You lost me there, Brad.

    Andrews February 23, 2007, 12:32 pm
  • What, JD has a splinter? How many days will he miss?????

    Andrews February 23, 2007, 12:33 pm
  • Every Redsox Fan overhyping Bucholtz and Bard . Blah, Next Great bust.. Who knows Bucholtz could be the Rich Garces and Daniel Bard could Armando Benitez?
    Rich Garces
    http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/G/Rich-Garces.shtml
    Armandon Benitez
    http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Armando-Benitez.shtml

    Jyung Li February 23, 2007, 12:33 pm
  • Andrews, sorry for the confusion. What I was trying to say:
    Creating a situation where the Red Sox signed Drew as a better option than WMP is a correct one. It has nothing to do with WMP potential or the thought that he’s not going to be a better player later. It’s that he’s not ready to do it yet. He may never be ready. So, I used the Pettitte example as the exact same situaiton. They signed him because Mr. World isn’t ready to do it full-time – not because of the Yankee belief that it won’t ever happen. Pettitte is just better now, just like Drew is better now. Maybe not two years from now, but certainly today.
    Jyung – when have we hyped Bard or Bucholtz? When was the last time you heard that going on? Trolls are pretty.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 12:40 pm
  • Do you Remember when Every Redsox Fans overhype Lester two years ago?? What happen to him?

    Jyung Li February 23, 2007, 12:45 pm
  • “I used the Pettitte example as the exact same situaiton.”
    That would hold up, Brad, if Drew were signed to a 1 yr deal like Pettitte.
    I’m out, SF. No more talk about JD’s splinter problem :)

    Andrews February 23, 2007, 12:48 pm
  • Do you Remember when Every Redsox Fans overhype Lester two years ago?? What happen to him?
    Really, guy? I’m not touching this with a ten foot pole. It’s so stupid, it’s funny.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 12:51 pm
  • That would hold up, Brad, if Drew were signed to a 1 yr deal like Pettitte.
    We can’t all get players who ponder retirement, then decide to only want a one year deal. It’s a nice luxury to have in deals, for sure.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 12:52 pm
  • About readiness, Wily Mo is 4-5 years older than Hughes..

    Lar February 23, 2007, 12:53 pm
  • , which is why included the line “and he may not” in my statement. Listen, I’ve already crowned the kid the greatest human being ever hatched.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 12:56 pm
  • Did you know that Wily Mo Pena’s former Yankees homegrown who later traded for “Drew “Bust” Henson and Michael Coleman? Michael Coleman also plays for the Redsox?

    Jyung Li February 23, 2007, 1:03 pm
  • Phil Hughes has a little Trot Nixon in his facial features, doesn’t he?

    SF February 23, 2007, 1:09 pm
  • Yada, yada, yada … let’s get some games.

    john February 23, 2007, 1:18 pm
  • Speaking of Trot, where is that guy? Did he sign with another team? I don’t recall, although sometimes my memory is like teflon, things slide right off.

    Whatever February 23, 2007, 1:22 pm
  • Oh,…wait… it’s coming back,..the Indians, right? The hard drive is slow.
    Boy, I’ll bet he’ll get a big standing O when he comes back to Fenway for the 1st time.

    Whatever February 23, 2007, 1:30 pm
  • Didn’t he sign with Cleveland, like Foulke before he retired?

    Andrew February 23, 2007, 1:31 pm
  • Thanks Andrew. And Foulke, yeah he walked away from a guaranteed 5 mil. because he felt he wasn’t up to par. Got to be commended for that. A lot of players in the same situation would have come to camp, struggled, been put on the DL, and still collected their paychecks.

    Whatever February 23, 2007, 2:18 pm
  • “I’ll bet he’ll get a big standing O when he comes back to Fenway for the 1st time.”
    …from everyone except jd drew, who won’t be able to stand.

    Andrews February 23, 2007, 2:24 pm
  • and Manny, who will be in the parking lot shining his 200K Lincoln Continental.

    SF February 23, 2007, 2:37 pm
  • Actually Manny probably won’t remember him by then anyway…

    desturbd1 February 23, 2007, 2:51 pm
  • Take a look at Tek’s comments on Manny at BDD. Tek doesn’t wanna let Manny be Manny.

    john February 23, 2007, 3:33 pm
  • Yeah, I kind of get the feeling that some of the guys aren’t happy about all this. But, who the hell can blame them? Why should they be down there busting their asses while he’s trying to get out of a car show appearance? Someone should call him out on it, and it should be the Captain. That’s what captains do. Or, they’re supposed to anyhow.

    Brad February 23, 2007, 3:46 pm
  • captain v to the rescue…and i thought “manny being manny” was an invention of the media and jealous yf’s…

    dc February 23, 2007, 3:59 pm
  • “I don’t remember what Matsuzaka looked like till I saw him this winter,” Ortiz said. “I always tell people that everybody looks the same to me in Japan.” – Racism and inconsiderate
    As for Hughes and Sanchez, you can’t say they are anything till they do anything. HOWEVER, you can say the same thing about Matsuzaka but everyone appears to be talking about him like a Greek God. I find it comforting that the Yanks have prospects like this and didn’t need to pay 100+million for someone who is going to help them every 5 days.

    Boogie Man February 24, 2007, 8:04 am
  • cant*

    Boogie Man February 24, 2007, 8:05 am

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